Vendor refuses to do business with you because your reputation is too low

depends on what you economy you deem is ethical, therefore, wrong.

The potion seller has a moral obligation to refuse transactions that would kill the customer. If he used the potions, he would surely die. However, if he just went into battle without his strongest potions, he still had a chance.

Potion seller, but not because he refused to sell. Rather, he should have understood price elasticity and sold his unique, powerful potions at a massive markup. The desperate knight was willing to shell every shekel he had.

If he dies, you can simply claim he was warned of side effects, but in a free economy, he was free to buy whatever he wanted.

>RPG set in the medieval times
>magic is a common thing

>RPG set in the modern times
>magic isn't a thing anymore

When did RPGs lose their magic?

In a free economy the seller can still refuse service on ethical grounds.

>A war is clearly taking place
>A knight of the realm, most likely a noble makes a reasonable request of a common merchant
>Likely on the King's official business since he is headed to battle
>The common merchant refuses to sell him what he requests
>Even if the potion is a risk, the knight has accepted this risk as acceptable since the odds at the coming conflict are clearly against him and the rest of his army
The potion seller should be dragged out and flogged at the absolute minimum, more likely hanged for working against the war effort, which amounts to treason. The knight was within his rights to seize what he needed in the service of the realm but was honorable enough to offer proper payment and to speak to the common merchant without airs and graces. The potion seller on the other hand dares speak down to both his superior in the feudal system and at the most basic level a man who is about to put his life on the line for the kingdom in which he freely does his business. It is the ultimate insult and anyone siding with the potion seller is either deluded or a rascal.

>you are trying to save the world and the town knows of your deeds for every major victory

>Vendor gives no discounts

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>ethics
And that's why the potion seller was wrong.

Why would he even have potions too strong for any living thing to actually use? How'd he be able to make a living if he couldn't sell any of them without killing anyone?

Clearly he was lying.

>game isn't perfect

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In a perfect world this thread would not exist.

We don't know how hard these potions are to come by. Maybe the vendor is saving these potions for the chosen one who will actually win the war, and the Knight isn't him.

>Foppish noble trying to get the stupid peasants to rise up against the based merchant class.
Go on drag the best potion seller out and flog him, then watch as every guild buttfucks you.

They are only for the strongest and the knight was of the weakest

Bombs

There's no way the Potion Seller would know for sure that his potions would kill the knight. I bet the Potion Seller was selling ineffective potions and was afraid of being exposed by a member of the court.

he was mixing whatever shit he had available for the alchemy xp, it's just most of it ended up as super poisons

fuck me the beginning was grueling

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But this is not a perfect world

But the knight is likely to die in battle anyway, especially if he genuinely believes the potions will be effective.

>losing your merchants license because some low constitution dipshit wants to poison himself

>vendor refuses to do business with you because you have an illegal item
>drop it right next to them and they will do business with you

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That knight was in over his head and you know it. The potion seller saved that fool's life, albeit he didn't do it gently.

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What could the potion seller have to gain from NOT selling his potions? He was literally doing the knight a favor

>Trying to mix potions in my hut.
>Nobody ever leaves me alone.
>Knight comes by trying to buy my strongest potions.
>Tell him to fuck off and not to make a habit of coming here.

mfw he comes back with the Golden Bird of Ku'Yleh.

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The potion seller offered to direct him to a potion seller with weaker potions. The stubborn knight refused, and demanded a potion that he could not handle. The knight is in the wrong.

Anyone else think the potion seller is a fraud?
Only sells his wares to those with a high chance of success. When they succeed the value of his wares goes up and only affordable by those with a high chance of success.

Not only refuses to sell to those with a low success because if they fail his brand suffers but while doing so uses a sales pitch to to extol the virtue of his wares to any that may overhear.

The potion seller is in fact a rascal

>buying consumables
what a shitter

Sounds like a smart businessman to me.

5 strength could have let the knight equip full sigons, potion seller basically sealed the knights fate

>potion seller has level 100 alchemy
>knight has level 1 one/two handed weapons, light/heavy armor, and speech

Christie golden tier writing lol

Couldn't Potion Seller have just sold the knight a weaker potion? The knight would be none the wiser, and the Potion Seller would have profited while still helping the knight survive the battle. Does the Potion Seller only sell dangerously strong potions? Doesn't seem like a good business model if that's the case.

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>game lets you rob vendor if you become friendly enough with him

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t. Uther

>guard tries to inspect your inventory for stolen goods
>drop everything on the ground before he does
>Yep, this man's clean. Sorry about that.

Potion Sellers clients pay a large amount for high potency potions, the Knight was not one of his clients and was likely unable to handle the potion.

>"Why Yes, I am strong enough for your potions. How could you tell?"

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Could the Oblivion Guard have obtained potions from the Potion Seller?

The soundtrack was better than the game itself desu. youtube.com/watch?v=bSiEB64FyF8

Kek Rascal is such a based slur

I am sorry traveler but you won't survive my potions

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>Kill merchant
>His whole stock vanishes
>FUUUUUUU-
Every single time!

This x1000

The potion seller distinctly told the knight that even his weakest potions would destroy him. These are the kinds of potions that, allegedly, "aren't fit for a beast, let alone a man". Knights in general, even masters, likely can not handle these potions. They are likely only for the mightiest wizards and powerful alchemists, and even then, arguably for their own personal ingestion at all.

If this goodly knight, misguided as he may be, left that shoppe feeling a little thirsty after this altercation and had a curious sip, it would take days to finally clean his viscera from the nearby storefronts, and this potion seller would have to answer to the law, who, by the way, are associated with knights. It is indeed laughable that someone so responsible as a knight would so obliviously seek their own oblivion, and with such vehemence. The potion seller's tone and reaction wasn't even unreasonable. Our knight is just sympathetically very emotional about this unforseen obstacle to his quest.

Musical version for theatric reproduction of the famous altercation:
youtube.com/watch?v=bSiEB64FyF8

10/10 job user

He was doing it out of spite and disrespect to the nobility

There is some merit to this.
As the seller states,
>"My potions are only fit for the strongest and you are clearly not of the strongest, you are clearly the weakest."
Due to either banner, heraldry, uniform, or even name/reputation, something clearly indicates that this knight's authority and power are incredibly low, even for knights, as he is "of the weakest" ranks of all.
He is likely merely a fledgling knight, or just-graduated-squire, drunk on the authority of his new title, attempting to pridefully bluster around town getting whatever he wants with his new sense of self-importance.
This potion seller has seen it before, and has likely put many such young knights, getting too big for their breeches, back in their place. In fact, this is very likely a hazing ritual performed by those bravado-fueled knights and men-at-arms, making the new guy go buy one of the potion seller's strongest potions, and that he'd "better not come back empty handed, or we can kiss this battle goodbye", then laughing their arses off behind his back, knowing exactly how things would transpire.

>kingdom
what kingdom? nobody knows who the knight is or who he works for. he could be an agent of the enemy for all the potion seller knows. if the knight wanted the potions, he needs to first give his intent beyond going into battle

>The knight keeps chuckling as he asks the potion seller for potions
Can't believe no one's mentioned this. The knight was obviously a deserter who was trying to buy potions in order to raid a nearby village, and the potion seller noticed it so he made up some excuse not to sell them to him.

>The potion seller offered to direct him to a potion seller with weaker potions
Completely wrong. The potion seller just told the knight to find someone who sells weaker potions. He offered nothing. For all potion seller knew there was no one offering weaker potions.

Reminds me of WoW around Burning Crusade

>Vendor stands there 24/7 not moving
>Won't sell you items until you spend 40 hours in the same grindy dungeons
>Finally can buy the item/recipe
>Vendor now useless and continues to just stand there

epic game design

A lowly merchant disrespecting the nobility is unacceptable. No matter how skilled an apothecary he claims to be.

The duality of man

this does not happen in divinity 2: orginal sin.

merchant even keeps the gold on him and items you have previously sold him

The potion seller. He clearly stated that his potions would kill even a dragon, let along a man. He had no business running such a shop in the first place.

Very good post

No, he thought the potion seller's refusal was amusing at first, given his knightly status. Eventually he realized that the potion seller was being serious, hence why he started crying.

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>merchant is armed as fuck with an army of mercenaries
This is how it should be, instead of that unsatisfying bullshit.

The what?

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Clearly the potions were +2000 strength -500 stam and the knight was too weak for the potions if he believed to need them tp go into battle. Therefore, none require his potions because those who may use it dont need it and those that need it may not use it. Really the potion he gives is a permanent buff to wisdom.

>townspeople getting sick from drinking well water
>mfw I just drink beer instead

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>the knight has accepted this risk as acceptable
>foolish knight knows more about potions than the expert who concocted them
knightfags can't even make a proper argument

YOU CAN'T HANDLE MY STRONGEST POTIONS

NO ONE CAN

MY STRONGEST POTIONS AREN'T FIT FOR A BEAST

LET ALONE A MAN

>Hewo, Cum Sellew, I am going into battle and I want youw stwongest cummies.

he has a guaranteed business with the strongest beings
the strongest beings, as you can imagine, are probably rich as fuck and paying top dollar for his premium potions
he has his own corner of the potion market

maybe he sells them to otherworldly beings, like beings from other dimensions and shit

What's a knight doing that he needs potions anyways? Magic is for wizards.

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How else are you supposed to recover your HP? Fuck bringing healers along, no time to babysit them in the middle of the battle

dumb question
he needs them for the battle
potions benefit every class, a strength potion is better used by a knight than a wizard or theif

>kill merchant
>his stock isn't on him but instead in a locked chest, so killing him was pointless

Eating like any good seasoned warrior you faggot.

>Going into battle by yourself
You have to be as retarded as that knight to go into battle alone. And a wizard can do more than just heal, you know.

He's going into battle, he probably won't have any time to eat for extended periods of time while he's in combat. Potions are far quicker and a vastly better option in that situation.

>what is first aid
You are never gonna make it.
Potions can be unreliable and sometimes even toxic

Why would the strongest beings even need potions? Surely the point of potions is for weaker beings to compensate for their own weaknesses and become stronger. If we really are talking about the strongest beings then they're far past the point of getting benefits from mere potions. The potion seller's business model is inherently flawed.

the negro convenience store experience

that isn't how it works but I guess a mere mortal knight wouldn't understand
the strongest beings still benefit from potions, potions aren't just for compensating

>kill or steal from merchant
>he sends an endless army of high level clones after you

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The knight for not understanding that the potion sellers strongest potions were literally poison, and consuming them would kill him.

>stopping to patch yourself up on the field of battle when a quick sip of potion could have saved you
That's why you ask for only the strongest potions. A preemptive dose ensures you won't have to risk ending up in a situation where you have to turn your attention away from fighting and expose yourself while fiddling with a first aid kit like a buffoon.

lmfao

You don't go into battle expecting to end up fucked up enough to need a potion, that's why you fail as a warrior and end up being one of the weakest.
Having some in case of extreme emergency is fine but at that point you are better off hiring a cleric if things look that dire.

You don't understand. He was going into battle.

Classic kenshi drop n bait

I can understand hiring a cleric for a single battle but what if the knight was heading out for a long campaign? Do you have any idea how expensive it is to hire a cleric for an extended amount of time just to watch your ass in case of emergencies? Potions are much cheaper in the long run, stay good for months if they're stored properly and can be carried on person at all times in case of surprise attacks or emergencies.

he needs them if he is to be successful in the battles.

>I can understand hiring a cleric for a single battle but what if the knight was heading out for a long campaign?
Even more important to hire a cleric if you are in a situation like that, plus if you are a motherfucking knight you not only have the money but also the connections.
Clerics are worth it for multiple reasons, potions are expensive and can get stolen, lost or even break.
The cost of a cleric can also be managed with promises, clerics often go on pilgrimages or relic seeking, it's not hard to find one to partner up, specially for knights since they rely on them for protection in said pilgrimages.