How do you guys feel about violence in Video Games?

Yes, the connection is that people who play violent games are less violent in real life

Japan doesn't have a problem with child pornography. It even has one of the lowest rape rates on the entire planet.
This documentary is a complete joke. The "bald guy" is the creator of Girls Und Panzer and the exasperated looking bitch in the OP edited out almost every argument he made.

The problem is extremely stupid people are very susceptible to suggestion, just look at Pizzagate.

>her disgusted face says more than any real argument can
Peak female 'logic'.

Source?

violence in vidya is fine. what do you think op?

"Stacey Dooley Invstigates Young Sex for Sale in Japan" or something like that, it's a BBC doc from 2017.

What does rape rates has to do with child pornography?
Anyways my dude, I spend a month researching this shit. I'm pretty sure I know what i'm talking.

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My mistake, it was a poo reporter with exactly the same agenda of humiliating the Japanese

I prefer violence in my vidya than violence in the real world.

Subtle falseflag. Points for actually trying.

We all know a roasties feelings trump logic

That's the guy responsible for cute girls doing tank things?
Neato.

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>cute girls doing tank things
what's the name of the show? I've never heard of it.

You’re honestly pathetic at least watch anime with substance

Girls und Panzer

Literally in the post he's replying to.

Must be why there are signs on the train asking men to please not to molest teenage passengers

Please go watch it

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>anime with substance
Name 5

i don't know why you're so defensive
every country has their problem and maybe Japan has improved in this regard in the past 5 years

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Cowboy Bebop

That's it

>Anglo whore disgusted by man not engaging in doublethink
As expected. But I think it's more about frustration that foreigner won't listen to you, because who but some irrelevant anglo whore will teach him true wisdom of banning drawings while protecting very real child rapists? So sad she achieved nothing and had to go back into her paki-infested hole for progressive acid dousing.

Girls und panzer 5 times

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What are you talking about? Girls und Panzer is great.

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Based spoonfeeder retard

>do I fit in yet guys?

God I hate Stacey Dooley.

haha

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Just letting you in on a little secret, people who actually research something don't go around saying "I know what I'm talking about"

>"Why don’t you British people follow Japan, since we’re more civilized, and have lower crime rate than the UK?”. I think the starting line is here."

It's funny how quickly you guys drop this line of thinking, when it comes to minority characters.
You'll protect the FICTIONAL Yennefer against race change, while at the same time claiming that fictional children don't need protection.

You'll claim that diversity quotas are manipulating the minds of society, while at the same time claiming that loli affects no one.

And then you'll read a post like this, and say Yea Forums isn't the same person. Which is only a cheap defense from the individuals who DO hold the contradictions in the minds.

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The actress they got to play Yen is actually perfect, Yea Forums is just filled with angsty 16 year olds from r*ddit

Did that make sense in your head?

There's no denying video games desensitise you to violence.

>You'll protect the FICTIONAL Yennefer against race change, while at the same time claiming that fictional children don't need protection.
Those two are the same thing you fucking mongoloid. It's about the creator and freedom of expression. The crusade against the agenda of the more ideologically inclined to influence art in ways THEY deem to be acceptable is the byproduct.

>You'll claim that diversity quotas are manipulating the minds of society, while at the same time claiming that loli affects no one.
Because diversity quotas ARE designed to manipulate. If that weren't the case then original works of fiction would be created instead. Loli's existing is loli's existing. No one is turning Yennefer into a fucking loli because there is no motive in doing so.

>And then you'll read a post like this, and say Yea Forums isn't the same person.
Where are you posting right now?

I dunno about that, I've been stabbing people in VR for about three years now and I'm no closer to actually stabbing anybody I know, which is much closer to real life violence than anything in a traditional game.

I wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it.

tl;dr i'm a balding pedophile

Who is saying that putting niggers in games should be illegal or that you should go to jail for playing games with niggers?

>le secrit club nigger using buzzwords
Pottery

You misunderstand. Imagine showing your grandmother shooting someone in the head in a game like Fallout, where it explodes, eyebals and brain go everywhere. This doesn't bother you but it your grandmother would certainly be bothered by it.

Yes, but that doesn't mean I'd be any less shocked by someone in front of me having their head explode like that. It desensitizes you to violence in media, sure, but that's distinctly not real violence. If my grandmother was a Tarantino fan I doubt she'd be any more put off by it than I am.

Desensitise you to video game violence but real life violence still makes me cringe
Because the former goes off I may winge at first but instantly I know its fake
The latter, I know that shit is real and is sickening.

Ahh fuck I leave Japan in 2 weeks bros. I'm gonna miss being able to walk into ero manga shops and look at all the smut

By that logic people who play loli rape simulators are less likely to rape little girls and people who play racism simulators and spam nigger in the chat 24/7 are less likely to be racist in real life.

>It's about the creator and freedom of expression.
Those adapting the Witcher are also creators, and they have their own desire to express what they want through their work. And if that's not a good enough argument for you, try this ong: The writer of the Witcher says he's totally fine with the race changes the showrunners have made. So even the original creator endorsed it.

How can you say that one media corrupts and another doesn't? Because the intent behind it changed? How does intent matter? Say as a hypothetical, that we found out tomorrow that the Witcher's author made the book as a way of pushing an all white agenda. Would that revelation suddenly make the Witcher an ideological Crusade? Of course not. In reality, the book remains a fantasy, regardless of the author's intent.

So arguing that SJWs have an intent to be influential, doesn't make is so.

>No one is turning Yennefer into a fucking loli
ok, but say someone did make a loli Yennefer. Will that mean the cunny crusaders succeeded in turning the minds of the readers?

Well of course there's a difference in what the two groups want. But you're missing the larger picture here. Both complaints are still retarded, regardless of what they think should happen to those involved.

do you have evidence to point to otherwise?

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The only anime with substance I can think of are that one and NGE. I mean I want to say Death Note but I won't lie to myself. What are some others, if any? (Don't you fucking dare say Stein's Gate.)

>people who play racism simulators and spam nigger in the chat 24/7 are less likely to be racist in real life.
Most of their irl reactions are backslash for the liberal media and internet policing

Sapkowski is shorter,he's also a piece of shit greedy fuck with no integrity.And the jews adapting it are racist assholes,how many mental olympics is it gonna take for you realize this simple shit?

>country with one of he highest child rape and murder rates in the world says the country with the lowest needs to coform to their standards
>every time someone is vehemently against anime porn to "protect" fictional characters, they end up being a massive pedophile themselves

>and they have their own desire to express what they want through their work
It's not their work though, it's actually someone elses work. When adapting material from another source it is of utmost importance to retain certain aspects of it.
>The writer of the Witcher says he's totally fine with the race changes the showrunners have made. So even the original creator endorsed it.
He's never actually come out and said it himself so we have no way of knowing if that is what he truly said other than second hand statements. Knowing Sapkowski based on past interviews and mannerisms he probably wants little to do with working on the show and just wants his bag of money.

>Sapkowski is shorter
"Shorter"? Is this some kind of bong slang? What does it mean?

>he's also a piece of shit greedy fuck with no integrity
And loli porn artists are?

>And the jews adapting it are racist assholes
Even assuming this is true, does being racist somehow magically alter the work you produce? Somehow your fantasy land can change the hearts and minds of people, simply because you don't like some races?

I just don't like black people

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>Somehow your fantasy land can change the hearts and minds of people
Yes, "somehow." Keep rocking that subhuman IQ.

Weebs are degenerates and I hope they all burn, but he's right in this instance. Weebshit doesn't create pedophiles, just virgins.

>When adapting material from another source it is of utmost importance to retain certain aspects of it.
No, it isn't. At all.
Shit, most movies are based off of books and they take a fuckton of creative liberties. When you're adapting a work the only thing that's of utmost importance is that you tell the story that you want to tell, or at the very least make it good.
Shit, are you going to whine that the role Morgan Freeman played in Shawshank Redemption was white in the book?

his name is the shorter than the title you used

they're what?

you realize there is more than one person here,right?How about making an argument instead of wasting time tipping your fedora

>It's not their work though
It is though. If the author could adapt the book to TV, then he would. But he has a specialized talent for novel writing. While the Series staff supposedly has the talents for motion pictures. And their creativity is infused into the product.

>When adapting material from another source it is of utmost importance to retain certain aspects of it.
By your own phrasing, you imply that some aspects can or should be changed. So you are admitting that the product is infused with the creative elements of those adapting it.
Furthermore, if we take what you say as truth. That retention is the utmost importance. Then the fact that they have changed aspects such as race, proves that the adaptation is taking creative liberties. You might not like what they're doing, but regardless if you like it or not, they are making the production their own. So how can you say they aren't creators?

>He's never actually come out and said it himself
Yeah, alright. Fair enough.

carving out chess pieces doesn't make you the creator of chess

>Indian girl exists
>"This is propaganda"
>Loli exists.
>"This has no effect on minds whatsoever"

>his name is the shorter than the title you used
Oh. I didn't know his name.

>they're what?
Sorry. I was asking if you're implying that loli porn artists have more integrity than Sapkowski.

>you realize there is more than one person here,right?
How about reading the thread, so you know which argument you are interjecting? Don't get into the middle of something, if you don't know what the conversation is about.

>The "bald guy" is the creator of Girls Und Panzer
No he isn't, that guy in the pic is Dan Kanemitsu, a manga translator. The GnP creator's interview wasn't even put into the documentary in the first place because she would have looked even stupider.

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Damn excellent analogy. I mean, I could still rip it apart, but it's still a good one. Better for me, because I can use it against you. Like so: Altering the images of chess pieces, doesn't change the game.

Loli and shota is completely illegal in the US regardless of what states say, just a reminder.

>Shit, most movies are based off of books and they take a fuckton of creative liberties. When you're adapting a work the only thing that's of utmost importance is that you tell the story that you want to tell, or at the very least make it good.
When adapting the Dune movie, Gurney Halleck was kept as an old man, Paul Atredeis wasn't changed to be black or a woman. The uniforms were on point, Wellington Yueh's appearance was kept as accurate to Herbert's notes as possible. The entire film was given due care to all details possible while still letting Lynch express himself in the film with examples like how the Guild Navigators move through space and how Shields work.
>By your own phrasing, you imply that some aspects can or should be changed. So you are admitting that the product is infused with the creative elements of those adapting it.
Sure you can alter minor things, changed the entire characters appearance and depiction is not a minor thing. Imagine having James Hong play Abraham Lincoln in a film, I love James Hong but that's still an inappropriate casting choice. If it was a stage play then sure he can do it but in cinema where there are close ups of an actors facial expressions and microphones picking up their entire way of expressing speech with small details like gasps and stutters. Take Game of Thrones where predominantly most people were white and pale as fuck in particular regions of the fiction and they casted actors appropriately for who could represent who based on the region in the setting of the books and artwork that they could best find actors to represent the fictional counterparts. Imagine if the entire Stark family was black for no reason and somehow they had been living in the cold north for many generations when in reality those who live in cold low light areas have little melanin in their skin.

There is tweaking for a vision and then there's outright changing entire things and disrespecting another work

I do not want niggers in my games. That is called a preference and everyone has them.

>The GnP creator's interview wasn't even put into the documentary in the first place because she would have looked even stupider.
Probably because the BBC are constantly trying to downplay rape and pedophilia in this country as an inconvenient truth, partly because of the participants

lol and how would you know?

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but it can ruin the set

You're welcome.

>Altering the images of chess pieces, doesn't change the game.
It does if you change half the colours of the pieces red, yellow and green on both sides and sculpt the pieces into other pieces. The confusion would be immeasurable after several moves.

>progpanda exists
>"This is propaganda"
>not propaganda exists
>"This isn't propaganda"

>I can only tell good guys and bad guys based on race.
Uh-huh...

Virtual chess games make unique pieces all the time, and it's more fun for ti.

He's not defending violence, user. He's defending pedophiles.

You have yet to describe what makes one propaganda, and the other not. Brown people merely existing, doesn't make it propraganda.

>Take Game of Thrones where predominantly most people were white and pale as fuck in particular regions of the fiction and they casted actors appropriately for who could represent who based on the region in the setting of the books and artwork that they could best find actors to represent the fictional counterparts
They cast a bunch of black actors to play characters who were white in the books. Because everyone was white in the books. The Unsullied were all white. Missandei was white. Everyone in Essos was white.
But they made a lot of them black because it doesn't fucking matter.

Sure putting in a bunch of dark skinned people to represent characters based in a region in the setting that was known to be extremely warm/hot where you would naturally have darker skin as a result of living their over time is a generally acceptable sort of change because there's actually some reasonable and plausible logical reason to do so.

so you disagree or what?
>it's more fun for it
i don't share your view
>Brown people merely existing, doesn't make it propaganda
agreed,race bending is

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It has nothing to do with race and all about changing how something is presented so drastically different that it becomes convoluted. If the pieces where changed from black vs white to red vs white or red vs green none of it would matter. But if you changed half the pieces for both sides into different colours so both sides had a mix of red/green/white vs red/green/black and both sides had kept unison in which pieces changed colour that would be extremely confusing.

>this mf never played Battle Chess
Can I borrow some of your virginity?

Damn, boomer. It must've been tough for you when Truman desegregated the military.

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i said can u lil nigger

Oh look you're just proving my point of how all the pieces are identical and entirely the same colour for each side respectively. Now imagine if all knights were blue and all bishops were red for both sides respectively.

>agreed,race bending is
Characters don't need protection from racebending though. They're not real.

>so you disagree or what?
Disagree with what?

>i don't share your view
Well that's a matter of taste then. Your dislike of a creative decision, doesn't mean it was significantly detrimental to the product.

You're stretching the analogy too far. Ultimately, we're talking about characters in a book. Not pieces on a board.

>Damn, boomer. It must've been tough for you when Truman desegregated the military.
>wearing the same uniform
>appearing the same way

Damn, retardera

Strongly opposed to it. Violence should be kept in text form only.

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It makes zero differences. Characters in a book have descriptions to vividly describe their appearance, demeanour and expressions. If a character is written as a female you know it's a female, if the character is written as a floating blue glowing orb you know it's a floating blue glowing orb. You don't just change it to a red floating dodeccahedron.

>Race is allegiance
This picture must be really confusing for you.

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proving that guys point again

>
agreed
>
that it can ruin set
>
it might guess i'll repeat the argument
YOU CAN FUCK UP CHESS PIECES

You're not going to be confused that Yennefer is brown rather than white. Unless you have a room temperature IQ.

It has nothing to do with race and you're just proving my point again by posting a sports team where literally every side has to make sure everyone on the appropriate team has the identical coloured uniform.

>You'll protect the FICTIONAL Yennefer against race change, while at the same time claiming that fictional children don't need protection.
I'm not stopping anyone from making black Yennefer, I'm just going to call it shit and move on.

See, I recognize that people have a right to do things even if I don't personally approve of those things. Unlike the fucking cunts that just want to ban everything they don't like.

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You would be confused if you actually read the description in the books.

"Yennefer had locks of curly, raven black hair fragrant with lilac and gooseberry perfume, falling in a cascade of curls on her shapely shoulders. Her face was very pale, triangular in shape with a slightly receded chin. Her eyes were cold and sparkling with a remarkable violet penetrating gaze, in anger blazing with livid, blue-gray fire. Those very eyes also concealed wisdom and imperiousness. Yennefer's nose was slightly long, mouth was pale with thin and slightly crooked, soft, sweet with lipstick, proud lips."

She's literally described as pale TWICE. Furthermore I point your own argument back right at you. If you think that race wasn't an issue then why change her at all in the first place?

Repeating your argument accomplishes nothing. Because even if we say altering characters can potentially ruin a set, there's no objective standard that says changing characters will ruin a set.

I read the original post, you're a fool for bothering to reply to a totally retarded strawman to begin with. A work can totally change feeling depending on the races involved, to the point it feels like bullshit. When you think of the Edo period, the last fucking thing you think about is a white man. When you think about northern european history, even mythology like Asgard, the last thing you think about is black people. When you make a movie like 300, it makes sense to have diversity, it all depends on context. Witcher is idpol cancer.
>elves, the highest representation of ethereal magic, beauty and purity in all of fiction
>africans
>hunchback ugly witch that tries to make herself appealing with magic
>ugly fucking mutt
Suspension of disbelief has limits and they manage to destroy them every single time.

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The issue here isn't who is reprimanded for their actions. But it's about whether or not media affects the readers. If you argue reading loli has no influence on the reader's mind, then how can you say racebending does? What's the difference.

Except the point is fucking stupid because it's equating their physical appearance to their allegiance. If you put in Peyton Manning instead of Cam Newton it's not going to change a goddamn thing about the role of quarterback.

is that...

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it doesn't change the role but changes who the quarterback is

>If you argue reading loli has no influence on the reader's mind, then how can you say racebending does?
Neither affects any minds. Quite the contrary, limiting access to certain types of information affects the mind, it's literally propaganda.

It's just that racebending is fucking shit. It's not needed, it breaks the immersion, it's argueably racist, I could go on. But go ahead, do that stupid shit if it gets you off, I don't give a fuck. Don't put words in my mouth.

>I read the original post, you're a fool for bothering to reply to a totally retarded strawman to begin with.
Pot calling the kettle black here, you're the one who replied in the first place.
>A work can totally change feeling depending on the races involved, to the point it feels like bullshit. When you think of the Edo period, the last fucking thing you think about is a white man.
I agree but it's fine to put in some white people in an Edo period piece if you're using them to represent Portugeuse or Dutch traders/missionaries of that time.
>When you think about northern european history, even mythology like Asgard, the last thing you think about is black people. When you make a movie like 300, it makes sense to have diversity, it all depends on context. Witcher is idpol cancer.
Makes no difference, if you're adapting someone elses work you don't try and change something entirely drastic like whether the character is a man, woman, young, old or an entirely different race altogether.

Doesn't change the role but it changes who is in the role. The more accurate analogy is if you put in Peyton Manning in and called him Cam Newton when clearly that's not Cam.

Violence is pretty cool. I like it when things explode.

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Dude, they showed you who is playing Yennefer before the show came out. How can you still be confused? And even if they surprised you upon the release of the show, you could figure it out in seconds with context clues. There's no real confusion about changing race.

No more confusion than if the actress has a smaller nose, or a more pronounced jaw, or a jutting chin. Like so many "perfect" casting choices that fans post. You just go "oh, this doesn't look exactly like the character. But context suggests that it is her."

There's also the fact that some people are coming into the show fresh. They aren't familiar with Yennefer. So will they be confused by a brown Yennefer? Probably not.

>If you think that race wasn't an issue then why change her at all in the first place?
Race ISN'T an issue. However, some people believe it is. And so they made the decision. If you are someone who thinks the character's race matters either way, then I think you're foolish.

>The "bald guy" is the creator of Girls Und Panzer
Absolutely based. how can you have anything against GuP?

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>>elves, the highest representation of ethereal magic, beauty and purity in all of fiction
>>africans
>>hunchback ugly witch that tries to make herself appealing with magic
>>ugly fucking mutt
>Suspension of disbelief has limits and they manage to destroy them every single time.
So your argument is "I'm racist". Gotcha.

Okay, I don't know if you know this, but when you look at the TV and see Yennifer on there, it's not actually her. It's an actress playing a role. The role doesn't change when you change the actress.

When Don Cheadle took over as Rhodey in Iron Man 2, did you scream at the TV "THAT'S NOT HIM!"?

>no objective standard
Are you saying left is not objectively a fat ugly fucking whale and you liking her doesn't mean you objectively have shit taste?
Freedom of choice doesn't mean there's no objective standards.
Again with strawmen. One is a fetish, one is a blatant political agenda.
That's like claiming you are putting in big tits in games because you want men to like big tits, not because they already do like them.
Racebending serves a very specific purpose: normalize diversity in all of media as well as all of history, so that when someone disputes migration they can go
>the hell you talking about? They were always here
"We wuz", that's it. It's got nothing to do with money, else the tokenism would include plenty chinese, which they don't do, because it's not their aim and because nobody complains about fucking asians because they are not dead weight.
Again, look at the pic to the left: it's denial, it's patronizing, it's delusional, it's disgusting, and it's deliberate. It's not "subjective", it's factually there for a reason.
Wrong, again. How can there not be confusion
>Yennefer changed her appearance to be hot as shit
>"Who's that fucking ugly thing?"
This is "Valkyrie in Thor Ragnarok" all over again.

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what show is this op

>Don't put words in my mouth.
It seems like you misunderstood the notion I put forth. I didn't put any words in your mouth. I only gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were on the same page with me.

>when you look at the TV and see Yennifer on there, it's not actually her. It's an actress playing a role. The role doesn't change when you change the actress.
Gotta move the goalpost somewhere

Yea Forums wants laws banning race and genderswaps in creative work? This is the parallel if you're talking about loli, you dipshit

It's not about confusion as to "WHO MIGHT THIS BE?" but rather the confusion is "This doesn't look like X character, WHY is this person representing X character"
>There's also the fact that some people are coming into the show fresh. They aren't familiar with Yennefer. So will they be confused by a brown Yennefer? Probably not.
That's the worst line of logic ever and I can tell you why. The Resident Evil movies are super fucking bad that there are people who buy into the Resident Evil games with only the exposure of the movies and then are utterly confused as to why Alice does not exist in the game and don't know where the Red Queen is. Yes, this has happened.
>Race ISN'T an issue. However, some people believe it is. And so they made the decision. If you are someone who thinks the character's race matters either way, then I think you're foolish.
If race wasn't an issue then WHY THE FUCK CHANGE IT? If you're adapting The King and I you don't change the King of Siam into a white guy and then say the race doesn't matter. You could however do a loose adaptation of a different version of The King and I but in a modern setting where you rewrite the entire thing differently, instead of a King you could use a Prime Minister or President of a Nation and you could even change the "king" to be a woman in that regard and reverse the roles of the King and Anna or you could make them both women. Changing race/gender in one version is disrespectful, in the other though it's respectful and actually creative.

Not him but don't we see many sjws complaining about whites reviving Asian roles? I mean even Iron Fist was under controversy for not using an Asian actor for Danny Rand and the same thing happened with Ghost in the Shell,DBZ,Death Note,Arrow,etc

>When Don Cheadle took over as Rhodey in Iron Man 2, did you scream at the TV "THAT'S NOT HIM!"?
If Don Cheadle was a white actor playing Jim Rhodes who is known in the Iron Man lore to actually be black you bet your mind i'd be mad. If fucking Jackie Chan played Jim Rhodes in Iron Man 2 that would still be an affront to the role.

I also forgot to Put The Ancient One and the Mandarin as examples

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Even after pedophilia has become just as normalized and legal in the West as homosexuality and transsexuality are now, people will still keep complaining about all the "pedophilia" going in anime and Japanese games and demand for action to be taken to save the children. People already don't give a fuck about children getting raped, but get insta-triggered by K-On.

yeah we do
Cries of White washing and all that jazz but dear god if you raise a stink if you don't like a black person taking x race role

I was against the ancient one being a white woman
and I'm against a black Valkyrie
But I'm some how a white supremacist for it.

Most of the time when they point to white washing, they always point to movies from the 50s and shit when the availability of colored actors was null.

cont?

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye"

West has literal rape gangs protected by the government because it's racist to jail them, but they cry and whine about lolis lmao

>tv licenses fund this vapid cunt

No wonder no one likes leftists

>I mean even Iron Fist was under controversy for not using an Asian actor for Danny Rand
Only idiots complained about this.

>I mean even Iron Fist was under controversy for not using an Asian actor for Danny Rand
Not him but that was the case of SJW'S not knowing shit about the material. I'm asian and despise white washing in movie roles with asian characters and even I know that Iron Fist(Danny Rand) wasn't asian in the comics. I say that if you want to cast an asian Iron Fist, do what DC did Green Lantern and make a new hero in that role respectively. That way you still have Danny Rand as one version of Iron Fist and new asian person as another version of Iron Fist just like how you still have Guy Gardner, Hal Jordan and John Stewart as their own Green Lanterns.

I do see alot of defense when Hollywood decides to make non-white saying it's ok and
it doesn't matter that an actor should be able to play whatever role they are given but almost none of these arguments come about when it's a non-white playing a white role.
You're not a white supremacist, most people who complain ONLY do it wen a non-white is in a white role, In Death Note more anons complained about L being black than anyone else being white in the entire film. Now anons outright ignore all the whites in the movie to complain about blacks.

Netflix Death Note was all around garbage and a shitty cash grab.

Besides Black L, all the others are god awful

>Are you saying left is not objectively a fat ugly fucking whale and you liking her doesn't mean you objectively have shit taste?
There are more standards to consider when creating a character than mere appearance. Sometimes appearance is a big deal for a characters. Sometimes it isn't. In the case such as the witcher, the appearance of characters aren't a big deal.(And neither are they for chess) You can argue that there are objective standards in general, yes. But saying objective standards exist, is not the same as proving the standards you judge characters are as simple as the standards by which you judge beauty.

So ultimately, when I say you have no objective standard, I'm not dismissing objectivity. I'm pointing out that you have no standards by which to stand your argument on.

They complain because it gives them another opportunity to shit on white people. They did the same thing to a white voice actress who played a black woman, but I didn't see anyone get upset at a black man voicing Samurai Jack
It was asian progressives who don't read comics getting upset at white people. The ones who read comics and cared enough about representation pushed for a Shang Chi series/movie, which is now in production.

>That's like claiming you are putting in big tits in games because you want men to like big tits, not because they already do like them.
What difference does the intent make?
>Racebending serves a very specific purpose: normalize diversity in all of media as well as all of history
How can you normalize something by its mere existence?

I can't find it anywhere, on their official website it says you have to be in the UK, I'm in the US and it doesn't work if I try to download the vid

That's true, I think it was a shitty ass movie for various reasons including the casting but some anons here only give a shit about black L and ignore things like inconsistency and Yami being a huge bitch throughout 90% of the movie and instantly turning into a badass while near death.

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>Wrong, again. How can there not be confusion
Like I said, news, trailers and context clues. When they call her name in the show, it will be perfectly clear who she is supposed to be. I don't understand why you keep insisting that hypothetical confusion exists, or that it should matter.

>Most of the time when they point to white washing, they always point to movies from the 50s and shit when the availability of colored actors was null.
By "colored actors" do you mean for black actors or asian actors or both? Because there were plenty of asian actors in the 50s but people were literally getting mad about actors like James Shigeta a Japanese actor playing a leading male role kissing white women in films like a decade after the war ended. And thus for about several decades they were all either casted as comic relief or villain roles in Hollywood. Last film to ever have a predominantly all asian and/or asian-american cast was Flower Drum Song in the 60's until maybe Crazy Rich Asians but that's another issue entirely.

>It was asian progressives who don't read comics getting upset at white people.
Sounds like the same moronic asians who get offended when people use the word "oriental". I can tell you i've been called far worse things in my life than the word oriental and some of those terms have been used by other asians too.

She’s a fucking piece of shit propagandist that defends literal convicted pedophiles and abusers.

The British parliament has literal scandals involving CHILD PROSTITUTION RINGS, this behavior is just deflection from their actual crimes. Vile scum

>what difference does intent mean
The absolute state western education

>"This doesn't look like X character, WHY is this person representing X character"
This is not confusing. The simply hired an actress that looks different than what she was once described as. Simple as that.

>The Resident Evil movies are super fucking bad
Because of shitty writing and subpar acting. This has nothing to do with race change.

>Yes, this has happened.
They weren't confused. What you describe as "confusion", is actually just a refusal to accept what is front of one's dumb fucking face.

>If race wasn't an issue then WHY THE FUCK CHANGE IT?
Because they *think* it's an issue. Don't you know? There is a difference between what people think, and what is reality.

ok, let's say you and I are in a room. And I have an Apple.
In scenario A: I hand you the apple, while thinking "I hope he chokes on it."
In scenario B: I hand you the apple, while thinking "I hope he enjoys it."
Does the intent of my action change how you experience with the apple?

>her disgusted face says more than any real argument can

The female mind perfectly encapsulated in a single post.

So is racial caricature fair game? Minorities need protecting, lines on paper do not.

>This is not confusing. The simply hired an actress that looks different than what she was once described as. Simple as that.
If at first glance someone who is familiar with the works cannot tell who the character is then your casting direction is poor. That in itself is confusion.
>Because of shitty writing and subpar acting. This has nothing to do with race change.
No it has nothing to do with race and I didn't use that example to mention race but YOU did. However it does have to do with completely altering source material and i brought it up as an example of altering source material drastically changes peoples perceptions in the wrong direction of said material.
>They weren't confused. What you describe as "confusion", is actually just a refusal to accept what is front of one's dumb fucking face.
Lol they were literally confused why the main character in the RE movies don't show up in the games. That's confusion dude, don't fucking rewrite the definitions.
>Because they *think* it's an issue. Don't you know? There is a difference between what people think, and what is reality.
Except they *think* what they think is reality and to be fair everyone perceives their own reality differently but you damn well better be ready to back up what you believe with proper logic and reasoning and if your logic and reasoning is poor you will be called out on it.

why are /pol/tard trannies so triggered by Japan?

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>muslim child grooming rings are A-OK

>imaginary stylized anime children are disgusting and should be banned

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>external stimuli isn't responsible for internal reactions

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to be fair, she also disgusts me.

Had to zip it since mediafire auto-flagged it. Grab it while its hot, then probably delete it because of how stupid it is.
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BRITBOTTLES BTFO

This is fake, right?

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>why are people so angry about pedophillia apologism

kys

I know what you are referencing and that shit is terrible
What I mean was like everyone else but asians can be included but yes racial discrimination did play parts.

>explicit images that use kids
Where did she find this in GuP and YYS?

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Zizek's point on this is the final word.
It is of course absurd to think that violence in video games directly causes violence in real life.
But, the fact that videogames are violent means something. Why do we want to spend our leisure time murdering civilians in GTA?
A video game is where we get to be what we want to be with no restrictions or supervision. Doesn't it say something that the person we want to be is a murderous psychopath?

You don't need to recognize a character at first glance.

>No it has nothing to do with race and I didn't use that example to mention race but YOU did.
I mentioned race, because it is a crucial distinction between your generalized example of material changes, and what is specifically the problem.

>Lol they were literally confused why the main character in the RE movies don't show up in the games.
I mean, maybe they're confused for like 1 second? And then they remember that movies are often different from the source material, and readjust their expectations.

>to be fair everyone perceives their own reality differently
And you haven't provided any logic for why race matters in this case. You've provided generalized examples that don't apply to the matter at hand.

She's just talking about all loli material in general.

In her own head, as usual.

>Why do we want to spend our leisure time murdering civilians in GTA?
Because the game makes it fun and highly detached from realism. Contrast to the Watch_Dogs reveal trailer where the protag caused a car crash at an intersection to draw attention away from himself, and that then had a character in a car screaming because their loved one was killed. That shit hit me right in the gut, and is not something I would want to be doing if it was actually in the final game and not part of Ubisoft's bullshit marketing.

Neither GuP nor YYS are loli material and yet they were both cited as examples of offensive content that should be banned by Dooley.

>racism simulators
Lol, also spamming nigger in a chat is a real life interaction, you're telling nigger to other humans, the equivalent would be to talk to little girls on chatrooms and claim that makes you less likely to be a rapist.

So you're doing a false equivalence.

Like I said, it's stupid.

You are still a pedo though

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He's wrong though. You can have immoral thoughts even if you don't act on them.

>the game makes it fun
YOU make it fun

>Funimation in charge of translation
See also Lolicon does not mean paedophile, 小児性愛者 does.

Immoral thoughts don't hurt anyone is his point though.

You are defending this too much, why do you support pedos?

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they hurt YOU
When you are worse, you make everyone around you worse.

>You don't need to recognize a character at first glance.
Pretty sure you do if the character(s) is/are important. Pretty sure you know who Gandalf was in LOTR films when he showed up if you're familiar with the books just like who Legolas and Gimli were just like everyone else in the film.
>I mentioned race, because it is a crucial distinction between your generalized example of material changes, and what is specifically the problem.
No you mentioned race because you keep trying to make it about race when my example was in reference to altering works and changing it to the point where people unfamiliar with the material will not recognise anything when they diverge further into the material beyond movies/tv shows. The original line I brought up the RE example for in response to what you said had nothing to do with race.
>I mean, maybe they're confused for like 1 second? And then they remember that movies are often different from the source material, and readjust their expectations.
1 second? Try longer than that dude. I played through Resident Evil games and friends who have never played the RE games before have wondered where the "psychic girl from the movies" was.
>And you haven't provided any logic for why race matters in this case. You've provided generalized examples that don't apply to the matter at hand.
Because my argument wasn't about race, it's about altering source material drastically from established works while those same people pretend they're trying to be faithful to the adaptation. You're the one who keeps thinking it's about race specifically, I want characters to look like what they are described to look like in the works, to wear the clothes that they're described to be wearing and to have the demeanour of their character counterparts.

I've seen something eerily similar to this phrase used in a joke once. Can't remember which show though.

Epic Twitter screens my retarded ESL subhuman!

I don't though, I just support translating shit properly.

Yeah, simulating the real world consequences several degrees removed from reality is thrilling. Probably why kids played cops and robbers or cowboys and indians before vidya.

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rt.com/news/425925-finland-sex-migrant-10yo/

Not that many sources out there but it does look real

The Simpsons

>A video game is where we get to be what we want to be with no restrictions or supervision

That's an outrageous claim with no basis on reality.

At least I've never wanted to be anything in Tetris

>Funimation

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Perkele.

Shhhhh, that's raysis.

we aren't talking about tetris are we?
We're talking about violent video games which are role playing games.

Just substitute what he said with people who play vr "beat a nigger to death" are less likely to be racist in real life.

You could simulate anything, and you simulate murder.
That MEANS something
Also, NB, kids don't kill each other when they play cops and robbers. They don't even simulate killing each other.

They're only immoral if you believe them to be immoral.

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>Pretty sure you know who Gandalf was in LOTR films when he showed up if you're familiar with the books
Ture, but it's still not important if Gandalf was black. Because another character would say "Why it's Gandalf! The Wizard!" And then you would know who it is.
But moreso, I never read the books. So to me, I just took the movie as it was. If the characters had any discrepancies to their book counterpart, it didn't mean anything to the enjoyment of the movie.

Or take a book I am familiar with: Game of Thrones. In the book, Bran Stark has red hair, not black. I watched the show first, and then I read the book. It wasn't that confusing accepting the change. They just told me he had red hair, and I went "that's different, but ok." Not "WHY DOESN'T BRAN HAVE BLACK HAIR IN THE BOOK?! HUURRRRR"

>I played through Resident Evil games and friends who have never played the RE games before have wondered where the "psychic girl from the movies" was.
You ever think that perhaps your friend isn't very bright? Or perhaps he held on to unreasonable expectations?

Your argument about altering source material, is entirely too generalized. You keep saying changing source material is bad, as if the conversation stops there. But you don't actually identify a problem. The one problem you presented was "confusion", which boils down to admitting your a retard who can't adapt to change.

>t. never played cops and robbers

Substitute cops and robbers with army man or coboys and indians. It's not hard to see what I'm saying. Also, I'm not arguing it doesn't mean something, but I'm curious what you think it means, since the Zizek quote didn't really explain.

it has the lowest reported rape rates on the entire planet*
there's a massive difference

>Also, NB, kids don't kill each other when they play cops and robbers. They don't even simulate killing each other.
Are you like, 70 years old and you forgot what kids are like?

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>b-but she's a 500 year old vampire!

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this
fictional characters cannot report to the police

>muh underreporting
Never mind that you people refuse to ever present any arguments for this, Japan's sexual assault rates would need to be 20x higher than reported to even be on parity with the UK, let alone higher.

Ok, why oh why would I ever want to be a character in, say, Resident Evil? Or Nier? (just looking at my desktop here)

Going for more violently explicit games, Dead Space? Or going for more character development, GTA or Mafia?

Yes they are fun games but holy shit the situations are insanely scary, people don't play those games because they want that to be reality any more than people read books because they want to be reality, it's insane.

That means that death is an easily pictured event of deep implications, as well as an easily implementable game feature.

We have been writing, singing and recording things with death since the dawn of fucking time, it is part of the human condition.

>Japan's crime and rape crime rate is lower than the UK

That's a remarkably gray area to commit to - not only are the rape cases exaggerated in the UK with recent encouragement to report rape cases even in situations where given consent is questionable, but where in Japan the problem is the exact opposite (rape cases won't be reported out of a sense of social guilt/repercussions for "causing trouble", and the same is true of most any kind of crime).

>not only are the rape cases exaggerated in the UK with recent encouragement to report rape cases even in situations where given consent is questionable
UK exaggerates rape by covering up entire rape gangs for years?
>but where in Japan the problem is the exact opposite (rape cases won't be reported out of a sense of social guilt/repercussions for "causing trouble", and the same is true of most any kind of crime).
[citation needed]

You are deluded, disingenuous, or both. Seek help.

Strange argument to make. So the original idea in OP, is that "creations of the mind can't influence people's behavior". But then you proudly boast about how creations of the mind curb rapes.

Based nips.

Her face says it all, she looks very understanding.
I say this unironically, she doesn't look disgusted, more like someone whose view point has sincerely changed.

Or maybe the ability to portray fiction without restraint is the product of a healthy society that can tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

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You're evidently bad at reading facial expressions.

go back and never come back

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damn niggas, chill out
I wrestled with my friends, but I didn't really try to simulate killing them.
Actually, I've got to ask. How were you with animals when you were about 8 years old? Be honest.

>Playing cops and robbers and pretending you died to your friend's finger gun means you probably tortured animals too
This is your brain on retardation.

It's always this same argument again and again.
It's always made ignoring the fact that Japan has a 99% conviction rate, that Japan is incredibly safe for children to the point it's common for parents to let kids roam around town, and that Japan is going through it's own version of #metoo.

So you're saying that society is succesiple to confusing reality with fantasy? That's what an unhealthy society is like?

I'm saying that only an idiot would think fiction and reality are linked.

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>How were you with animals when you were about 8 years old? Be honest.

I hugged my cat too much to the point I broke its ribs and killed it.

That's what my older brother made me believe for more than 10 fucking years it turns out the poor thing was sick from the start and I had nothing whatsoever to do with it. I'm still not ok with the idea of having a pet.

>rape cases won't be reported out of a sense of social guilt/repercussions for "causing trouble"
That's not unique to Japan. People all over the world will avoid reporting shit like that because they think others will think less of them for it or they think they're being a burden.

Big diff between making finger guns and virtual throat slitting. One is symbolic killing (i.e. not killing) and the other is imaginary killing (i.e. reflects a desire to kill).
I don't care if this is "moving the goal posts" (imagine caring about informal logical fallacies lol). You're getting too mad for an user post on Yea Forums. Something you want to tell me?

I assume you agree with that image you posted. And it asserts that there are people who cannot tell the difference between games(or fantasy in general, I suppose) and reality. If that is the case, then there are people who WOULD look at loli, and become dangerous in real life.

>(i.e. reflects a desire to kill).

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People who think fiction can't affect real thought or action are naive. You can't honestly say you wouldn't be a different person if you stayed away from fiction, they can still shape our beliefs and desires. That includes you, user.

Yeah, I'm sure all the kids with finger guns yelling bang bang and playing dead are strangling puppies in their free time. What are you even saying?

Gandalf could have been black if his appearance was never described to fit any sort of valid description and if it was a stage play but he's literally described as an old white dude in the books and Tolkiens notes. He's classically described to be like Odin when he wanders as an old man in Norse mythology.
>Or take a book I am familiar with: Game of Thrones. In the book, Bran Stark has red hair, not black. I watched the show first, and then I read the book. It wasn't that confusing accepting the change. They just told me he had red hair, and I went "that's different, but ok." Not "WHY DOESN'T BRAN HAVE BLACK HAIR IN THE BOOK?! HUURRRRR"
It's a big difference from going to tv/movie to book than it is from book to tv show/movie. When you watch the tv show/movie you've already got a visual clue based on the actor you saw, when you read the book you're going to default to visually picturing that same actor with some slight changes. If it was the other way around you would have a much different picture in your head since you would be using the descriptions to form and conceptualise the character in your imagination.
>You ever think that perhaps your friend isn't very bright? Or perhaps he held on to unreasonable expectations?
Or maybe you're unfairly calling into question someone's perception on said material because of another adaptation of said material which drastically alters the source material in question. If you were taught that the colour red was blue and that the colour blue was orange your entire life and you had never been exposed to colours before you're not going to question it. Why would he question the movie adaptations of RE in this same regard? There's nothing unreasonable about his expectation when the movie literally presents the main character to be the focal point of the entire movies and then has zero mention in the game, in fact that's a normal assumption to make for anyone unfamiliar with the RE series.

>If that is the case, then there are people who WOULD look at loli, and become dangerous in real life.
Sure. But freedom of expression should not be restricted based on the actions of a small handful of mentally ill people. That same logic is why people wanted to ban violent video games after Columbine.

>all these pedos coping by accusing non pedos of being pedohiles
>they dont realize that the majority of people find lolishit disgusting

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>Your argument about altering source material, is entirely too generalized. You keep saying changing source material is bad, as if the conversation stops there. But you don't actually identify a problem. The one problem you presented was "confusion", which boils down to admitting your a retard who can't adapt to change.
I've given literal specific examples of where altering the source material can be fine and respectful adaptations and examples where it isn't and is insulting to the material otherwise. If you haven't read what i've written and actually listened to what I was saying then the only retard here is you for lacking comprehension.

>ignoring the fact that Japan has a 99% conviction rate

Which either tells you that Japanese are only reporting crimes when the crimes are absolutely, undeniably proveable (and thus hold no social repercussions for anyone involved save the convicted), and/or judges are overly concerned with maintaining said conviction rate as a matter of reputation. Or do you think Japanese police are able to find better evidence than their peers abroad, and/or their lawyers are somehow able to make said evidence more convincing than lawyers in any other country?

>that Japan is incredibly safe for children to the point it's common for parents to let kids roam around town

With fire alarms around their necks.

>that Japan is going through it's own version of #metoo.

That is having idols be laughed at by their hosts and belittled by their peers on television.

The only real danger coming from anime is that real women cannot compare, so you lose any interest in them.

What desire causes someone to go on a murderous rampage in a video game?
Instead of overanalyzing and rationalizing, I'm interpreting the actions for what they literally are. Seems like the most reasonable approach to me.

I think Stacey Dooley is a hack who gets off on sensationalism or ratings and is so wrapped up in her own little safety blanket that she can't accept that the issues she tackles are sometimes non-issue

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But things like video games, art, movies and literature CAN inspire forms of violence and there are levels of tolerance around them. Sexual drive is much different and tougher animal though, odds are if you're seeking out lolicon you are a closet pedo and sexual attraction is rarely sated by the things listed above.

>With fire alarms around their necks.
Because community response is that swift.

>BBC documentary.
of course it is. where were they when their own government hid muslims from raping literally 1000+ little white girls over the course of a decade or longer?

everyone keying in on the comment about childhood games
should have known everyone on Yea Forums would play dumb and act like they can't see the difference between playing cops and robbers and fantasizing about violence as such

But have any of you addressed the main point? Why do YOU want to play violent video games?

>b-b-b-but what abou
Walk outside and tell people you're a lolicon and see how many people you can talk to before you get your head kicked in, pedo.

>then there are people who WOULD look at loli, and become dangerous in real life
And they are the same ones campaigning against it in the first place, as supported by the constant stream of vocally anti-loli people that get outed as actual pedos.

BUT IT IS IN CONFLICT WITH MY WORLD VIEW, IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY JUST TRUST ME DUDE

>every time someone is vehemently against anime porn to "protect" fictional characters, they end up being a massive pedophile themselves
this a thousand times.This is why I cream my pants with sheer delight everytime an sjw journalist who preaches metoo mantra gets outed as sexually harassing coworkers

You can't do that because mentally ill people have spent years trying to paint drawings as literally worse than Hitler as a smokescreen to deflect attention from their own actions.

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>everyone except me is a pedophile :)
blow it out your ass, fag

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Nobody didn't understand what you're saying. You just addressed no one else's points and called alternative explanations "rationalization" or "overanalyzing". Real big brain stuff.

So what you're saying is that she's a journalist?

>You'll protect the FICTIONAL Yennefer against race change, while at the same time claiming that fictional children don't need protection.
This is so batshit retarded i'm having trouble processing it.
What does arbitrarily changing the race of a fictional character have to do with real life child abuse?
>You'll claim that diversity quotas are manipulating the minds of society, while at the same time claiming that loli affects no one.
This is grade A strawman. Diversity quotas only affect the bottomline of giant companies which can afford to lose money for e-brownie points while loli shit only appeals to dudes with ED who can't get hard at anything else anymore. Again, what does the former have to do with the latter? How does your brain work?

>there are crazy people therefore we should ban x
no

roman citizens awed at the sight of gladiators stabbing each other or chariot racers being crushed in pileups and were probably better socially adjusted for it

>What desire causes someone to go on a murderous rampage in a video game?
A desire to have fun exploiting the mechanics of the game which are far removed from real world equivalents of the same actions.
Makes as much sense as saying that jumping off a cliff into a haystack in Assassin's Creed represents a desire to do the same thing in real life.

>n-n-no you see the evil anti pedo pedo elite have brainwashed the masses into thinking that liking naked children is bad!!!1!
Wrong. Its a natural disgust reaction. The same thing you get when you see two men kissing. Soon enough you wont be able to express this disgust either because its ''discriminating against pedophiles ;(''

>every single time some pedo gets busted they have gigs of lolishit along with all the real shit
>b-b-but look at these same 5 people I post in every thread!

Serious question, what's wrong with being a pedo? it's simply a kind of sexual attraction that you can't control. Just like like hetero and gays. It's natural and it's not harming anyone. Why do they get demonize for existing at all?
It's only wrong when you act on it, but we're all human who live in the society and we all understand societal norms, so people will just keep it to themselves, knowing that their sexual preference is a taboo.
Surely you're not so close-minded?

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>the if you take a stance against something you are hiding something argument
Yeah retard, some people use it as a smoke screen, but he's right most people would want to beat the fuck out of you and they should.

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She would claim to be a journalist or reporter as someone who does "research" for a subject.

So you have nothing but assumptions?
The country isn't perfect and it's just as fucked as many other countries, but it's not some rape haven because of the cartoons they masturbate to.

>Sexual drive is much different and tougher animal though, odds are if you're seeking out lolicon you are a closet pedo and sexual attraction is rarely sated by the things listed above.
I've heard from a psychiatrist that there are pedos who know that what they have and are attracted to is an illness but also don't act upon it. Some use loli material as a way to sate those desires without hurting real children. It's not the best ideal way of treating them but at least it doesn't hurt real children. Doesn't mean this is going to work for every pedo out there but they have to try.

I know everyone else got it, but it does seem like you didn't get it. Point of that post was to say that any interpretation that sees violent action in a game as expressing anything but a desire for violence will require overanalysis and rationalization.
I'm taking actions at face value, it's the apologists that have to decipher some hidden, exculpatory meaning in playing violent games.

>/pol/tard
rent free

>is there a connection between violence in games & real life
There have been multiple studies in which the conclusion is that there is no link between the two. Violent video games do not create violent individuals.

I'm comprehending what you say, but it all comes back to the the same roadblock: "Change bad" You say something is confusing for the mere fact that it was changed. You don't care HOW it was changed. You don't specify degrees. You don't name any standards or objectives to uphold. You only state that because it was changed, it is therefore confusing and bad.

The closest you've come to an actual argument is here: >It's a big difference from going to tv/movie to book than it is from book to tv show/movie.
This is something measurable. I can consider how the difference between transitioning from one media to another matters. But ultimately, this is nonsense. There isn't a big difference. Whether you see an actor first, or you see a mental image of the character first, both create expectations for what the character should look like. And when you transition to the other media, you might encounter differences, which you simply have to adjust in your mind. The adjustment is easy.

An example would be Ramsay Bolton, who looks NOTHING like his TV counterpart. So even watching the show first, I still had a wildly different expectation, and still the adjustment was easy.

Another example would be the Wheel of Time. I read the book first. And now they just casted an actress for a main character. Moiraine. The actress looks NOTHING like how Moiraine is described. But you know what? I just make the adjustment in my mind. She's Moiraine now. It's not a big fucking deal. It's not confusing. I don't know what is wrong with your brain.

It doesn't?
Keep in mind, a desire doesn't have to be rational.
I know I can't jump into a haystack from a cliff and live, but I still desire such a thrill.

>they have gigs of lolishit along with all the real shit
source?

I have a theory about people like this. They know they have issues and so rather than go a therapist or have some quiet introspect thinking time, they instead become the morality police because they think it will deflect people from realising who they really are. take for example the pedo who went to prison in the UK just last week for making false accusations against some politicians and did some nspcc talks on stranger danger before fleeing to sweden and being extradited back to the uk when police finally got their fingers out of their asses and realised he was stringing them along the whole time

closing in on my point
Roman society was exceptionally violent, hence their enjoyment of violent spectacle.
Fast forward to modern America. We enjoy violent spectacle. Could it be that we're exceptionally violent?

>Everyone who can't tell the difference are dangerous hypocrites.
How convenient.

To be clear here user, the Ragnarok version of Valkyrie is not the same character as the comic version of Valkyrie, who they alluded to as the leader of the charge against, again MCU specific and very different to her comic version, Hela.
The MCU changes many things from the comics, and this is possibly the least egregious.

oh hey i recognize one of the manga there
don't remember the name

>that's because you envy the young
GOTTE M

Yeah okay Destiny, I get it, lets give potential child rapists Child porn.

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>99% conviction rate
>you're just assuming they don't prosecute without assurance of victory! The noble japanese have used ganitiami nukuba prosecutra to train all their lawyers in ways dirty gaijin would never understand!

Almost. You are right, but the pedo is also right.
2 sides of the same coin. Pedos who project their shame onto others and pedos who don't are both still pedos.
If a pedo calling you a pedo makes you angry, it might be because you've got some sexual problems of your own to sort out.

>In Death Note more anons complained about L being black than anyone else being white in the entire film
The movie was shit, and the depiction of L was one of the worst parts of it, but it has nothing to do with race. The character comes off as manic and moronic, instead of calculating, cold, and genius. The only character done well in any manner was Ryuk.

>no reply
of course

this can't be real

Well yeah, everyone else thinks Americans are a bunch of insane gun nuts who think a person saying "darn" on television is more offensive than seeing someone eat a shotgun to the face.

Stop self-inserting in video games so maybe you can start to play games for the gameplay and not for the depiction that happens on screen

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I'm not arguing to ban loli. I'm trying to understand how one can claim media has no effect on people, and then in the same breath say that people are affected by media.

every pedophile arrest ever

>I jump to haystack in AC because I desire to do so in real life
Bruh, I think there is something wrong with you

Post the one with Yuyushiki

>Source: Dude trust me
yeah okay

You should start by realising that different people saying different things are not the same person saying the same thing.

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The clip had one by kenshirou, made me laugh

>I just play games for the gameplay
lol ok

hey dumbass go look at what the people who you spam had on their computers

There is no logical argument for banning drawings.
>Drawings have nothing to do with actual paedophilia!
Then there's no reason to ban them because they have no impact on actual child abuse.
>Everyone who looks at drawings is a paedophile!
Then the drawings should remain as a substitute so they can use the drawings to relieve their urges instead of harming real children.
>But they'll encourage paedophiles to seek out the real thing!
There has literally never been any proof of this and all studies into the subject have indicated the opposite.
>But it makes me uncomfortable!
Oh fuck, I guess that's that then.

>I play games because it lets me do things I can't in real life
Just think how stupid that sounds

Art always has an impact on people, but largely that impact is personal.
Altering existing characters to fit an agenda most often has a negative impact on the overall quality of a work, because such changes are almost always done without regards to the context and content of the original work.
The depiction of lolis in doujin/manga works serves solely to titillate those who appreciate the work.

I wasn't the one you originally replied to.
Soooo, got any names and evidence?

it makes my dick hard, so its ok.

>I'm not a pedophile it's just extremely important to me that this country that makes thousand upon thousands of illustrations of 6 year olds being raped isn't shamed

It's not the character itself that anons are protecting. They know it has no feelings. It's 4 things as far I see they might be motivated by
>their own memories and experiences being attacked as incorrect (like Hermione being black now)
>the particular artist/creator that they like being attacked as "wrong" or "problematic"
>the arrogance of a secondary creator seeing their own vision as superior to the original one's
>the very concept of artistic/authorial intent being attacked. The fact that some people believe in "death of the author" as valid shows this is a legitimate concern.

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It is. So is this:
youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao
The original dialogue was about the girl being older than the guy but the guy didn't use any honorifics when referring to her so she was chewing him out for being disrespectful.

There is something wrong with YOU if you don't think that would be fun.
The people who made the game knew about this very common fantasy and that's why it's in the game.
Why a haystack and a cliff? Why not a giant, perfectly safe cushion?
Games depict harrowing scenarios because safe scenarios are boring -- they don't appeal to the desires of the audience.

I love it.

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>and then the whole class stood up and clapped the reporter out of the room

>just like heteros and gays

Their sexual orientation is sexual attraction to a group of people who can't consent, so no, it's not "just like" other sexual orientations. Who wants to live in the presence of people who, if they fail to contain their sexual impulses, violate your children. These are people that need to be closely monitored and separated for the safety of children, and that absolutely should be prioritized over the feelings of social acceptance a pedophile has.

I do agree with you here user.
I am not a pedo myself so at first I didn't understand it too and was upset about it because THINK OF THE CHILDREN but the Lolita book genuinely opened my eyes
It's also pretty hilarious and wholesome in quite a few places, can recommend. Oh and spoiler he doesn't rape a child in it

If I openly agreed with you, I'd get vanned.

Joining in.

>citation needed
spending anytime at all in japan, their culture is much more built around family honor than the west. And even the idea of preserving the honor of the society is a big thing, also pretty non existent in the west. There are other reasons as well, but saving "face" is definitely the biggest.

It's actually around 18,500 now.

It may also be because being accused of being one even if you've never looked at such material is enough to destroy your reputation for life.
he irony of this case is that those individuals he made false accusations, they didn't do what he accused them of. But at the same time they may have abused victims in the past and covered their tracks well enough to never be caught. And now they they're absolved of this creepo's accusations, they're probably untouchable. Future accusations against them are probably out of the question now.

It's an aspect of maturity and self-examination; a functional adult can ignore the detrimental aspects of media and can embrace the positives while still being grounded in reality. It's really not difficult.
If someone is trying to moralize, censor, or police this issue then they're pushing an agenda.

I play games for both reasons.
The gameplay is fun. The story and design elements are engaging. Why are they engaging?
You may think you are above such base thoughts, but I doubt it.

>I'm comprehending what you say, but it all comes back to the the same roadblock: "Change bad" You say something is confusing for the mere fact that it was changed. You don't care HOW it was changed. You don't specify degrees. You don't name any standards or objectives to uphold. You only state that because it was changed, it is therefore confusing and bad.
I literally gave a hypothetical example of making change in a hypothetical production of The King and I. I gave an example of how altering source no matter how minute can change someone's perception of the original source material in question when bringing up RE.
>But ultimately, this is nonsense. There isn't a big difference. Whether you see an actor first, or you see a mental image of the character first, both create expectations for what the character should look like. And when you transition to the other media, you might encounter differences, which you simply have to adjust in your mind. The adjustment is easy.
It's not a nonsense point and a very big difference. When you go from a book you have your own perception of how the character sounds, looks and carries themselves. When you go to the tv show/movie and then to the book you're still visually keeping in mind the characters represented from the tv show/movie into your perception when you read the book. This is basic fundamental psychology at work here.

The problem you keep making in your arguments is you keep applying your own standards as the "default" standard as that everyone will perceive exactly how you perceive it with no confusion and that is a fundamental flaw to hold onto when you are attempting to adapt something to a mass market audience. When you are attempting to adapt something to mass market audience in tv or movie form you must reduce as many factors as possible that could be misconstrued as possible between the two works. You simply can't understand and see from the point of view of other people.

In Japan you're guilty until proven innocent, so anyone caught by the police even with little evidence is fucked. It's not known for them to release people accused of rape and there are no repercussion on accusing. I'm sure there's corruption, but not at the level you're implying.

>dude trust me

So, none.

What are you talking about? Right here and here both anons imply that loli or child porn are correlated to rape rates.

You didn't even read my post, you damn close-minded ape. You want to punish people for thinking stuff that are taboo for the society. You want to control people's thought. You want to demonize every "outcast" of society. You're the bully. You're the lunatic.

don't be disingenuous. Someone calling you a pedo on twitter won't get you sent to jail.
It's a nice story to tell yourself about why you're so angry, but it's pure cope.

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Yes and yes
Also got super offended after this interview because she got called out for thought policing and not doing anything to defend real children from sexual predators
Actual rapists > Dudes jerking off to Chinese cartoons by themselves

Neither of those do any such thing in the first place, they simply indicate that Japan's rates are significantly lower, without pointing to a specific reason. And they are both only presenting one stance, not the multiple conflicting stances you claim they are.

Being self-destructive is not fun. Get help.

source?

I PLAYED DEMONS SOULS NOW I WANNA FUCK A BUNCH OF FURRY DEMON ASS

>Then the drawings should remain as a substitute so they can use the drawings to relieve their urges instead of harming real children.
Or we could just execute pedophiles, not hard to figure out pussy.

>Stand in a narrow walkway while holding the circle button so Altair pats every NPC that walks past because it's funny
>This means I want to do this in real life

This
Just holy fucking shit lady
It’s just s fucking drawing
I could draw an ID that says underaged looking cartoon is actually a 5000 year old dragon in disguise
It’s all fucking fantasy at the end of the day

Something being engaging has nothing to do with wanting to actually do the thing yourself. I don't want to slay a God when I a JRPG. I don't want to murder people when I play FPS. I don't want to beat up people when playing fighting games.

They offer different gameplay mechanics that I find interesting. If you self-insert and think YOU want to do those things, that's where you are fucking up. Get help.

Repressing urges is not healthy. Get help.
You need to learn to acknowledge your bad desires so you can stop displacing them onto anons on Yea Forums.

Most often, changing a character's race matters little to zero to the context. Yet people will still swear up and down that it does, in a feeble attempt to justify their hatred of change.

Maybe it is not the loli but the fact japan doesnt have millions of muslims

I KNOW RIGHT HOLY FUCK GIMME DAT DEMON THICCNESS

To think a country that was doing all this shit just 20 years ago now has lower crime rates than america.

I don't pay attention to e-celebs user so I don't know who that is.

yeah sure, but look at guys like Hardwick. Never laid a finger on his girlfriend, got fired for accusations, will likely never get the same career opportunities he could have gotten. Or Depp, lost out of movie roles because Amber Heard got mad at him being late to her birthday and spun lies about a domestic.

>It doesn't mean anything! Stop analyzing ME
We're close to a breakthrough.

Please propose an outline for carrying this out that enables flawless detection of paedophiles which would not encourage them hiding their mentall illness even moreso than they already do, which is what is already the primary reason they don't seek treatment and end up harming children.

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No those are only the ones kidnapped and raped daily for over a year
The rape and release numbers are far far worse

You should look him up, he spews the same talking points. Inlcuding "there is nothing wrong with incest", perfect for faggots like you.

>I have desires to kill
>You shouldn't repress your urges
I wouldn't want to live near you

>Please propose an outline for carrying this out that enables flawless detection of paedophiles
Okay.
>Seeks out pedo content
>Expresses pedo ideas
>attempts or does to prey on children
Well that was easy.

you're both really clueless aren't you, just use google if you want sources.

Really? They why do I so often argue with people who say "the character is supposed to be white, and that's all there is to it".
I do also see some of the notions you presented. But these are often thwarted or quelled through discussion, while the pervasive notion is always "it was , therefore it shall remain." To me, that's protecting the character.

There is nothing wrong with incest between consenting adults who use birth control to prevent themselves from ever having mutant babies. There are no other scenarios in which incest is ok.

There's nothing more English than wanking to muslims training your little sister on a leash. The country of cucks, worse than America or even Sweden.

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What did I misinterpret? I want to monitor people who have an inherent sexual attraction to children. If that means they are "demonized", I'm sorry, I do prioritize the threat to children over a small minority's social ostracization.

>You want to demonize every "outcast" of society

Responding by dishonestly mischaracterizing my post doesn't help.

Big difference. Those people are real players who people offline actually care about.
Their life is completely different from yours.
Odds are that you will never be significantly affected by false accusations. You aren't that important or threatening to anyone.
If you are one of 10 anons on Yea Forums that actually matters in real life, sorry. This post isn't meant for you. It's meant for everyone else in this thread.
Stop getting upset about things that don't concern you.

Gee user, why don't you work for the FBI? Clearly it's an easy job and they've just been doing it wrong all this time.

>Lolifags claim they're not pedos
>On this very board where calling real-life children "loli" is commonplace
>Lolifags claim they're not pedos despite being objectively attracted to the underage, underdeveloped bodies of children
If a guy does nothing but jack off to big anime and SFM titties all day, surely that has nothing to do with his actual preferences. It's not real! In reality that guy only likes small or flat chests. Give me a fucking break.

And before any of you pedos think you're smart trying to link me that poorly sourced, poorly sampled, outdated study that "proves" all men are secretly pedos like you, don't bother. Any scrutiny at all tears it apart. Now sure, maybe you're all harmless and the vast majority of you would never hurt a real child despite being pedos, but you shouldn't act surprised that people are disgusted by your preference.

>saying that virtual content is a rallying cry for pedos/rapists/murderers to take action
>basically equating those things to ISIS videos

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I never mentioned anything about incest nor did I mention that pedophilia is ok. I mentioned that it is disease and that there are pedophiles out there that are aware that it is a sickness and literally have to be in lifelong therapy as a result of it.

>dude google it
So still none.

What did I misinterpret? I want to monitor people who have an inherent urge to murder people by playing violent video games. If that means they are "demonized", I'm sorry, I do prioritize the threat to everyone over a small minority's social ostracization.

I think both sides are stupid and the only correct one is
Take it easy it’s just a drawing
I literally draw several hours a day and I don’t get this uppity about a drawing

Beginning to think your obtuseness is a symptom.
Not repressing desires doesn't mean acting on them.
If you don't like psychoanalytic language, think instead of confession. I'm saying that you should confess your sins and seek absolution (YES your thoughts are sins).
The worst sinner is the person who doesn't see himself as a sinner. To return to psychoanalytic language, the worst psycho is the one who has convinced himself he has no psychotic thoughts.

I'm willing to go for a permanent solution, while spineless faggots like you sit around second guessing everything, looking for some good in a situation I'm looking for results.

You're not responsible for everyone else. People might be influenced by your actions, but they are ultimately responsible for their own actions. Loli shit is weird and makes me uncomfortable, but I understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

this thread reminds me of these SJW faggots
archive.
ph/gcJcE
>muh pixels

>It's an aspect of maturity and self-examination; a functional adult can ignore the detrimental aspects of media and can embrace the positives while still being grounded in reality.
If only everyone did that... But they don't.

>It's a disease
Man shut your dumb nigger ass up.

A reminder that not even normalfag researchers could find a link between loli and child molestation

anti-lolifags are running on pure emotion

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>Most often, changing a character's race matters little to zero to the context.
Changing characters that relate to polish folklore to racial groups that don't represent that region of the world is ignoring context, making Hermione black ignores content from the source material regarding her race, granting someone else Thor's powers in the MCU ignores the fact the entire point of his growth in Ragnarok. Occasionally the changes include some new hardships, such as experiencing racism, but again these usually feel tacked on and out of place with regards to the character and story at large.
The best cases are those in which the change is entirely irrelevant, and the specific actor/character being the best option regardless of racial tonality, such as Idris Elba in Thor.

I'm really into inflation porn.

>Like spider girls with shitting dicknipples in hentai
>This means I like spider girls with shitting dicknipples IRL too
No wait, that doesn't work at all.

I never made the claim that it was a rape haven, I said that claiming your country is more civilized than another when your evidence is the number of reported cases is a gray area to enter into. Nor did I attribute anything to doujinshi or general manga culture.

I agree that the laws are heavy-handed, don't look at all the evidence, and generally are ill tidings for global freedoms. However I don't think making arguments that use numbers suspended in a social vacuum are going to help anything - the same arguments are used to justify a lot of other awful things.

But then, I'm making this argument on the board that frequently fills threads with collation between violent dog attacks by breed and black crime statistics, so I'm not likely to get through to a lot of people.

Our conversation was about people who are objectively pedophiles. Why are you trying to inject the question of whether violent video games indicate a desire to murder into this?

No, but you are responsible for you.
You have a soul. If you pollute it, you will do bad things more easily. Those bad things will harm other people.

Well I don't know about specifically raping loli's, but there have been studies about sexist attitudes and womens' self-perception about sexy female characters in games. They show that women aren't negatively impacted by sexual imagery in games and that games don't make men/boys more sexist. A similar longitudinal study shows that violent and aggressive games does not make people more violent or aggressive. There are more studies proving this, but these are the ones I have read before.

Studies can be found here: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844719

nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-20190718-rsxoyiam2bdcnlty6z3riohxyi-story.html

motherhood-moment.blogspot.com/2019/07/parenting-pointers-video-games-and.html

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That just means you wish inflation and shitting dicknipple spider girls were real. But if you're that deep into porn addict degenerate territory you seriously need help regardless

There's a vast difference in "protecting" a character's identity and "protecting" fictional children
You are trying to tie two different concepts together to fit your argument.
Keeping Yennifer the same way she is described in the book does not equal placing Child abuse laws on fictional people
Advocating for Child Abuse laws on fictional children is equatable to advocating for banning violence or other crimes in media.
You're an ESL retard that eats bath salts.

>No don’t give a safe mostly harmless alternative than commit raping and facing jail time just b yourself :)
>Surely this won’t backfire!
You’re a waste of oxygen faggot.

Stacey Dooley has since been banned from Japan due to her reporting.

>they simply indicate that Japan's rates are significantly lower, without pointing to a specific reason.
That's what makes it implied, and not explicit.

People who think fictional violence/rape/sexualization/whatever is real suffer from the same delusion as waifufags who think their waifu is real.

A drawing cannot be molested.

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LOLICON IS A DISEASE user

This post made me unironically think.

No it doesn't, it means I can appreciate something in hentai that I realise would be completely disgusting and / or retarded IRL, because fantasy and reality are different.
This is as stupid as saying that because it's extremely common for women to have rape fantasies that it means they actually want to be raped.

> Open your browser
> Go to Microsoft© Bing© search engine
> Image search
> img tag
Your child porn delivered.

I have the same thoughts on incest.In society nowadays you aren't allowed to judge gays, trans, or anything, but with all that degeneracy two siblings can't fall in love? In this age of acceptance what two consenting adults chose to do should be nobodies business but their own.

Safe and harmless is just to execute the mongrels, but you're too much of a faggot pussy for that. Or maybe you're worried you'd find yourself in the chair?

This
I don’t give a fuck he was black I’m black
He wasn’t L he was just some faggot that didn’t belong in that movie.

see not an issue

>Seeks out pedo content
Too broad, normalfags fap to pokegirls and the like all the time and are no closer to diddling kids than those that don't.

>Expresses pedo ideas
See above.

>attempts or does to prey on children
The only properly enforceable metric.

>modern Yea Forums runs on confirmation bias and virtue signaling?
You're just finding this out?

>They show that women aren't negatively impacted by sexual imagery in games
I keep telling people this but nobody believes me because the DOA games are just as popular with women as they are with men! Now I have proof.

man what made japan decide to make the circulating cp illegal? It wasn't harming anyone.
You can't decide whats ok for children and think that sex is definitely bad for them

>Too broad, normalfags fap to pokegirls and the like all the time and are no closer to diddling kids than those that don't.
It's not broad, you just know it implicates you pedo.

I'm sorry that im not gonna spoon feed you.

Ambivalent though mostly uncaring since it's fiction. If we were to make the mistake of regulating and making moral panics out of fictional characters interacting with each other, I'd rather though regulate grotesque displays of violence like Baraka ripping off a woman's screaming face, scooping out her brain, and eating it sooner than banning the depiction of sex between two consenting characters or displaying genitalia.

I just wish all the outrage artists, grifters, and culture vultures would collectively die off so gamers and developers can just do what they want without worry

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>y-you pedo

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Reminder that even if you don't take reporting at face value and you simply work by survey, Japan's rape rate is STILL WAY BELOW most western countries.

Fair enough. Though it would help to point that out more clearly, especially with the arguments going on in this thread.

>looks at material of children in sexual situations
>HURRR IT'S TOO BROAD
Secret is out pedo, were you at least self aware before?

t. pit bull owner

Considdering what happens in several uk towns with the grooming gangs, the BBC hypocrisy is mind blowing

what children?

>that example link
>a no-reply topic
no better than "gaming-journalists" I see.

>To me, that's protecting the character.
No, that's protecting the author's intent. Completed creations are not "evolving" works that should ever be changed, and all derivative works by definition can only be properly evaluated in how well they match up with the original.

>Changing characters that relate to polish folklore to racial groups that don't represent that region of the world is ignoring context
The context of these stories, isn't in regards to the race of the humans involved.

>making Hermione black ignores content from the source material regarding her race
Do you know what context means? Yes, book Hermione was white. But what does that meant in relation to the story? It makes no difference.

>granting someone else Thor's powers in the MCU ignores the fact the entire point of his growth in Ragnarok
Inheritance of power, doesn't take away from the story of someone else's rise to power. Like, if you came from nothing, and worked your way to a successful business owner, and then you handed that business to your son, does his inheritance wipe away your hard work?

>it's not broad
Define "pedo content" first, because it's currently so broad that a middle schooler discovering R34 of Misty for the first time would get the rope.

More normalfags harm children than NEETs fapping to lolicon.

I know it's hard to believe being a normie yourself, but it's fact

Anytime some dumbass uses the excuse of "it's only a drawing dude lmao I'm not really a pedo" I ask them if jerking off to a drawing of two dudes sucking each other's dicks would be gay porn

Yup, it's hard to prove since the games are niche to begin with, but they have a huge female audience. Here's an article by a girl talking about why she likes the beach volleyball games unrealitymag.com/why-girls-love-dead-or-alive-xtreme-beach-volleyball-too/ and a gamefaq thread of users sharing their similar experience gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/643186-dead-or-alive-5/66494532

Any game with a dress-up mechanic (SNK Heroines, The Sims, DoA, Tekken, ect.) is pretty much guaranteed to draw a female audience as well.

he might not want to spoon feed you but I will, as I think it's important to expand any user's knowledge of the world when you can.

tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-unreported/

japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/09/27/issues/surviving-sexual-assault-japan-victimized/

>"pedo content
Don't play stupid faggot, you go on to explain what it is with your misty reference you literal brainlet.

>middle schooler discovering R34
Yeah totally the same as an adult actively seeking it out.

>Modern
Humans since the beginning of our time acted this way. But you can make people reassess their biases, if you point them out.

Why do you care about drawings?
Are you autistic?
Anime characters aren't real you know.

You'd think that would be reasonable but lolifags are likely the same people who say futa and traps aren't gay. It's endless mental gymnastics, I could completely believe someone here would full on deny that gay porn is actually gay.

Why do you care about drawings of 5 year olds being raped that the prospect of them being banned fills you with rage?

>More normalfags harm children than NEETs fapping to lolicon.
Normalfag would imply majority right? Majority have higher rates.Good argument dipshit.

>that's protecting the author's intent
Except the author often doesn't mind the changes. And in many cases, their intent is more about the actions the character takes, rather than what they look like.

>and all derivative works by definition can only be properly evaluated in how well they match up with the original.
You only think in forwards or backwards, but never lateral.

>reading comprehension

I'm asking the questions here you condescending fuck.

Answer mine first, then I'll respond to yours.

>why do you care that something that you like are getting banned by senseless close-minded people?

Holy shit you are so seething that you can't tie lolicon to real life.

Get fucked

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY GIRL

she was one of the few that carried mad tv. What the fuck happened bros. Literally none of them made it to the big time and all became C listers. Its not fucking fair. How can SNL still be on the air.

That’s a horrible idea both logistically and practically
You can accuse anyone of being a pedo
>user I saw you’re a pedo!
Awesome I just became a scoot free Judge Judy and executor
Hope you hated living

What?

can someone just do a scientific study about whether people attracted to lolicons are also attracted to the human children they represent? tired of hearing this retarded shit.

>stop exposing me and my doublethink!
see why can't you just admit you're a disgusting pedo like this dude?

I want to marry and impregnate my legal loli wife Aoi Yuuki!

All forms of pornography should be banned regardless if it’s loli or not.

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Why would there be a study?
The concept alone is ridiculous and implies most humans can't tell between fantasy and reality.

get in line bro

>Working from these numbers, the real figure for rapes in the country could be more than 27,000.
>Still lower than UK numbers not counting UK's unreported rapes.

hmmmm

>Hi, I would like to start a study on finding out if people jerking off to depictions of 4-10 year old children are pedophiles

Do you actually have an argument or is this no-u tactic all you do?

It’s called paint ball user
It’s all the rush of shooting someone but no one dies 99% of the time

So you're autistic and feel sympathy for fictional characters then?

Apologies, please go see a psyche professor before you start flinging insults at other human beings.

>Holy shit you are so seething that you can't tie lolicon to real life.
Yet you are by saying it fills the void of actually molesting children. For how long? I'd wager not very consider sexual deviance is more likely to snowball. Options expand to suicide due to depression for not being accepted by the community OR advocating for pedophile rights, as we've been seeing more and more lately due to a generation of 'tolerance'..

Why is it always white people who try to thought police the rest of the world as a diversion from crimes in their own country that they're ignoring?

They fail to realize that thoughtcrime legislation doesn't stop at its intended target.

I chose her image because she's acting in video games now. And anons have argued that her appearances are due to SJWs filling quotas.

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what argument do you have?

This is like saying drugs aren’t responsible for drug addiction.

violence is everywhere. if all people were to disappear from the planet, violence would still be everywhere, on every scale and level. violence fucking made you, among other things. if you ignore it, it doesn't go away.

At this there would be a tangent in the discussion in which the lolicon specifies that he's only attracted to a drawing, 2D, the art, which is epistemologically different from an actual "3D" kid. What are representational values and types? They seem to not know that or pretend not to.

Not even close, no.

>That’s a horrible idea both logistically and practically
>You can accuse anyone of being a pedo
You can already accuse people of all kinds of shit, but without proof it doesn't carry much weight. Come back when you're capable of more than flimsy non-sense arguments.

It's not real.
Now tell me yours.

This level of projection, Jesus Christ, it's almost like you're making a confession in a way.

Not an argument.

Drawings aren't real and you're a retard for getting triggered by them.

That's the argument.

>bro who cares that Jeffrey Dahmer used to constantly make illustrations of him mutilating animals and people, means nothing bro just drawings not at all what someone would be into in real life.
>now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go jerk off to this gangbang of solid snake, Dante, Master Chief, and Sam Fisher. not gay tho because it's just art

How did you even come to that conclusion?

>hurr projection
Nothing about that reads as a confession, you're just a dull toothed faggot with no bite only capable of regurgitating the same buzzwords you've picked up on Yea Forums.

What's the difference between a film deemed erotica like Walerian Borowczyk's work and porn?

Lurk moar
We all everything real 3DPD which
3D pig Disgusting
Faggot

You didn't present an argument, other than "this is like that" without any further elaboration.

You're a pedophile and the drawings of young children appeal to you because of that.

>consider sexual deviance is more likely to snowball
Are you speaking from experience?

That's just your opinion.

And what's wrong with that? as long as the pedos don't act on real children, then there shouldn't be any problem with that. We all know it's a taboo thing to do.We're humans, not mindless animals who act purely on instinct.

Country raped by muslims so they have to focus on something else to prevent suicide

Yes it does, you're basically making assumptions about my entire life right now.

That's what projection is, you fucking moron.

I'm curious to why this thread is still up

His entire point is that hentai that influences people isn’t responsible for their actions. It’s no different then saying drugs aren’t responsible for people becoming addicted to them.

I'm speaking from observation, it's also pretty common knowledge that sexual obsessions tend to snowball.

Spoiler
Anti Loli fags are actual pedos projecting
You see why Lolichads hate them

Not an argument

A fictive pedophile.

I did but you rushed over so you can make a twitter tier response.

>Yes it does, you're basically making assumptions about my entire life right now.
I didn't say anything about your life? Wait are you a pedo? Do you feel targetted? Please clarify, sounds like you want to drag somebody down with you user.

So have you sexually assaulted people then?

Sad desu, I live in a relative shithole but 15 muslims got butchered last week and no one here cares lol

just close your eyes nigga

Nope. I see you're bringing the low IQ bants. It's not like news, research or world awareness could make one alert, right?

>Wait are you a pedo?
I'm not, I know I'm not because I know myself more than you do.

Are you one? Are you speaking from your own life experience?

And you are a mass murderer.

>BBC documentary
oh so i know its just another waste of money for woke points

If you read some history books the English men literally used to share their wives with other people, it was the norm of society. So the cuckoldry is in their genetics.

>"Hey! Stop liking those sexualised drawings!"
>says a country with thousands of real life girls raped and groomed and the police turning a blind eye on it

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>It even has one of the lowest rape rates on the entire planet.
How many niggers there? That is your reason

>You'll claim that diversity quotas are manipulating the minds of society, while at the same time claiming that loli affects no one
I do this because I like the idea of a society where there'd be equality in how people treat each other. I don't want that to happen because I don'tsee a problem with that. I do this because I like the idea of a society where there'd be equality in how people treat each other. I don't want that to happen because I don't see a problem with that.

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You dodged the important question user, why do you feel I'm targeting you? Is it because you looks at children in lewd situations? Yeah totally not a pedo user, denial is handy until the people around you discover who you truly are. Do you think they'll see it the same way as you?

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Well yeah, I guess listening to mass media would make an absolute mental case who argues slippery slope fallacies.