>only 700 out of 20,000 people asked for a refund on the first day after Piranha Games announced that the game would be releasing exclusively on the Epic Games Store. This basically means that only 3.5% of the pre-orders were refunded.
>Bullock stated Pirahna Games pays for the refunds of Mechwarrior 5, without Epic Games helping them. This came as a surprise as a lot of people thought that Epic Games would be handling the refunds. After all, that’s what happened with Shenmue 3.
>From the looks of it, the negative impact of Piranha Games’ decision wasn’t that big. This is definitely good news for the developers as they can focus on making a great game, without having to worry about the refunds.
>Bullock re-stated that while Piranha Games is aware the hatred towards the Epic Games Store. Still, he believes that this exclusivity will benefit the game in the long run.
>No reviews >No voice chat >No community forums >No workshop >No screenshot sharing >No wishlist >No game tags >No shopping cart >No discovery queue >No one-click online streaming >No h-games >No music category >No software category >No video category >No linux support >No mac support >No regional pricing >No payment option variety >No marketplace >No trading cards >No trading >No user profile customization >No achievements >No controller support >No family sharing >No overlay with browser >No client skinning support >No controller-friendly mode >No local network gameplay streaming >No cloud saves >No backup feature >No adding third party games to your list >No third party key registration >No new features since I made this pasta >No reason to use Epic Store
>shitty social features that achieve nothing in the game itself Yikes
Zachary Hill
3.5% is a huge amount but writers today can't write to save their lives and rely on yellow journalism to warp the outlooks of impressionable young idiots.
The title made me assume they believed this to be a large amount.
John Phillips
nah, that's reeesetera
Nathan Parker
Epic literally dabbing on Steam.
Tyler Parker
There's no voice chat? What the fuck?
Jacob Butler
Why dont you post some more Epic exclusives? Oh wait only Take Two are allowed to sell their games outside of Humble and EGS.
Jackson Brown
>30% cut is outrageous, fuck Steam >you can buy EGS key from GMG which takes 30% though Lmao
Isaiah Powell
Outrage culture does nothing, only a vocal minority care and to everyone else it's just free adverting
Hunter Walker
>only 3.5%
Are these people retarded? Any serious business would consider a sudden 3.5% drop in sales or revenue as a serious problem that needs to be addressed immediately.
Josiah Jenkins
>first day How much have refunded since? Surely they would be screaming from the rooftops if only 5% refunded so far right?
Juan Wright
EGS exclusivity just means you can pirate guilt-free. Timmy already bought you a copy.
Jayden Cox
You are mixing up developer cut with consumer cut, based retardo
Luis Mitchell
>GMG which takes 30% though Obviously they dont.
Brody Young
If you faggots all stopped being mad when Epic did this companies would stop doing it, your anger makes the stories go viral and gives them millions in free advertising.
You have to learn to stop doing what these companies want you to do.
Being ignored is worse than making some people mad.
>700 out of 20,000 on the first day What a weird time frame and numbers
Jacob Russell
> steamdrone proceeds to pathetic threatening
Brayden Butler
>posting wojak and calling anyone else cringe Are you okay, retard?
Nicholas Bell
The made steam cucks are just an Incredibly vocal minority
They are sad and petty and impotent kike Gabe worshippers.
Jordan Ross
>first day only data >""""only"""" 3.5% of 20k people >that's $42k lost on the first day just because le epic chinkstore
man, I bet they smell their own farts with this amount of mental gymnastics. I would really like to see the real droprate in the timeframe of a week/two weeks, because that's how long it usually takes people to address these non-existential issues.
Evan Young
>your anger makes the stories go viral and gives them millions in free advertising. they fucking wished. after fortnite meme is over it's ching-chong lights out at the chinkstore
>threatening >there are actually faildevs in these threads Haha, oh wow. How is it a threat when you get no sale either way? You think people will only pretend to not buy your game?
Jose Ortiz
"""""only"""" lmao
Ryder Bell
cool story, chang
Cooper Perry
>implying there are 20,000 people who bought MW5 (lol
Adrian Peterson
>first day >700 out of 20000 What's up with these bullshit numbers?
Landon Ross
"Pre-orders" are retarded in the age od digital distribution. You're paying upfront for a product you'll receive later. That's like telling devs "I've already paid you, now you can shit on my plate and I'll HAVE to eat it". Pre-orders were a thing when there was a limited amount of physical copies of something.
Stop. Being. Dumb.
Adam Ramirez
That's like 3.5%. Yet a similar percentage is catered to for "representation" in games all the time.
Julian Young
A shame refunds aren't a feature of the epic games store
Daniel Gutierrez
They lost an entire persons yearly salary worth of money in a single day before most people even realized what happened? That's great.
Thomas Reed
Okay. Now lets see first week.
Nathaniel Davis
>3.5% lost preorders within 24 hours >haha ‘tis but a flesh wound That’s 3.5% of people fanatical enough to preorder a fucking pgi MW game after MWO... within a day.
Owen Walker
Why are Epiccels so deluded?
Chase Ortiz
>Keeps giving Epic gets less money not the developer, based retardo
Josiah Davis
I'm guessing that Tim bought the other 19,300 copies.
Colton Cooper
Technically they actually have cloud saves now. For some selected games, that is.
Mason Johnson
if you don't plan on using the additional services then you might as well pirate, especially since tim already paid for your copy
Lincoln Hughes
And how do you know that? We don't even know the rules on generating keys on EGS.
Thomas Ward
No game should ever require a third party launcher because then you're only renting the game and Mr. Corporation will take it away from you the moment it becomes convenient.
>HRURRR STEAM Sorry, steam is not exempt. If you love video games, you would support gog, encourage devs to release the games themselves, or encourage piracy. You can't blindly white knight corporate stooges like Tim Sweeney and Gabe Newell.
Majority of relevant indie games weren't EGS exclusive before it came around and bought it. A specific example is Griftlands and Hades. Klei and Supergiant always had all their games DRM free through Humble Bundle and GoG. Now those two games are locked to EGS.
William Richardson
Ah, there was another?
Luke Nelson
Yeah, right. It's publisher who sells the game on GMG. Epic is not the publisher, why would they cover GMG's cut you retard? They'll only cover UE4 royalties if you're using it.
OHNONONONO STEAMCHADS WHAT DO WE DO NOW!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????
John Ramirez
Epic is the publisher, it's their fucking store, it's their key >Shitposting about epic store >Can't provide any proofs >Wants a proof from me Kys
Noah Robinson
And it only took them, what, 7 months for them to catch up with the competition in that field? But hey, let's not forget that Steam didn't have cloud saves back when it launched in 2004 either, so thart makes it fine that EGS launches without them in 2018!
Kevin Williams
the epic store terms of service isnt like steams
you arent allowed to go to the press with numbers like this
>Only 700 refunded on the first day! No problems! >W-what? You want to know how many more refunded after that? Well, I have no idea! The PR speak is so fucking obvious at this point, must've been a hefty chunk of refunds
Blake Gonzalez
twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/1156326362375806977 PGI still hasn't actually sent notices to people that pre-ordered about the changes, though. That's 700 people actually following what is going on, and not the ones who have pre-ordered it and not really staying up to date on a game that's gone through so many delays at this point on a day by day basis.
Chase Wilson
>Epic is the publisher, it's their fucking store, it's their key Imagine being this retarded. Is Sony publishing every PS4 game? Does Microsoft publish every X1 game? Does Valve publish every Steam game? No, they don't. Borderlands 3 is published by Take Two, not Epic you moron. Steam makes it clear that they take 0% from key sales, while there's no such info on EGS key sales. You're the one who's claiming shit with no proof fucking shill.
Adrian Flores
>If you don't use shitty launcher features you shouldn't support the devs The average steamcuck
Angel Thompson
>refunds >On pre-orders So they'll make back what they lost when the game actually launches, I don't see the issue Unless you're dumb enough to think they won't make more than 700 in overall launch day sales
>You should just keep quiet and suck corporate and publisher cock like a good little slave! The average chinkoid
Ian Myers
Because bitching and moaning while sucking cock is better, right?
God you valvecucks are pathetic
Dominic Diaz
>you shouldn't support the devs can't you read? devs are automatically supported up to 500k copies
Joseph Jackson
>Says this while bitching and moaning about how nobody wants to suck his flavor of corporate cock and how they're all bad people because 'muh devs'! God you chinkoids are pathetic
Benjamin Turner
Moving over to GOG as a Steam user for the past 10+ years was pretty painless and they've got basically all he features Steam has. Why is epic store so utterly feature deprived compared to Steam/GOG?
Caleb Cox
>There is no such info But there is also no proof either for the opposite based retarded subhuman.
Jeremiah Richardson
>"only" >3.5% of people who pre-ordered >on the first day >doesn't include people who cancelled on the 2nd, 3rd, etc. day >doesn't include people who were going to buy the game, but now won't. >"only"
>No proof for the fact that steam takes 0% as a cut for key sales The fuck are you talking about fucking retard?
Tyler Green
Why doesn't Epic just use their unlimited money to just undercut Steam and build goodwill toward their customers like every other business? I feel less inclined to use your platform when you make it look like you're taking games hostage and lording it over everyone. Fuck Gamestop for doing this with physical shit as well, glad they're fucking dying.
Sebastian Peterson
Answer me this EGS shills: why doesn't Epic share its games with GOG? If it wants to encourage competition and destroy Steam's monopoly, why is it harming other storefronts by keeping games away from them? Keep in mind that Epic is not allowed to do things for profit, as profit is what makes steam evil, remember?
Didn't they purposely delay refunds specifically for this reason? That idiot Bullock has been blocking people on twitter asking for when their refunds are coming through, and they are sending out the refund emails slowly over the course of a week or more. The 3.5% is only the first few that managed it.
Josiah Walker
>metro exodus keys are being sold on G2A lying steamcuck those are the key written on the physical copies, they don't count
Kayden Morales
And how is this relevant to what I said?
Cameron Scott
>3,5% loss in a DAY >not that much
They didn't talk about following days for a reason
William Lewis
because gog is just like linux, nobody uses it except for a very vocal minority of autists
Jordan Edwards
didn't you bitching about keys sales you fucking retard
Nathan Rodriguez
>check leddit >"I don't think I can claim credit for this, but, I tweeted Russ at 11:01, asking if he will do this. At 11:11 he announces that he will do this. And blocks me for good measure."
Aiden Garcia
you are retarded
Cooper Peterson
If rumors are to be believed then there was a group of something like 4000 BT die hards that cancelled the pre-order all at once after that first day. And I would believe it too since BT fans are a special kind of crazy.
Joshua Ross
Key sales cut, not whether you can sell keys or not.
James Cook
no, i don't use neither gog nor linux
Juan Bell
>tfw ever since the fiasco people even started boycotting MWO so not only are they getting their new game refunded, their old moneymaker is making less money since MWO is basically run on goodwill
Luis Moore
Someone claimed their clan of 2000 refunded.
Easton Torres
are you stupid? Epic also doesn't get any profit from 3rd party key seller site dumbass
Camden Cooper
It's a logical assumption but there's no concrete proof of that.
David Cooper
we are talking about epic here not steam, subhuman
Blake Gomez
the key sold on 3rd party website are those from physical copies, the cut is already included
Michael Murphy
>mfw was part of that 700 when Russ announced it after work Reminder, they delayed the announcement late EST. Also FUCK PIG. I will never support them again
>the key sold on 3rd party website are those from physical copies That's true in case of Metro but not BL3.
Carter Hill
Learn English before talking to me again.
Asher Fisher
>>GOG needs to be destroyed because it's too small no, it's that literally nobody cares about gog's existence at this point
James Ward
Did you forgot how they handled the microtransactions on MWOnline? Or when they tried to scam others again by jumping on the Star Citizen's success and make their own Space Game and asking over a million dollars for it to get funded, only on their own website?
I never trusted them and I'm still mad that such an amazing IP is held by these fuckers.
>Epic is trying to encourage competition >do this by making GOG's situation worse, eliminating one steam competitor and thus ensuring this "monopoly" that steam supposedly has
500 IQ post.
Benjamin Cruz
You don't "make back" lost customers, they're gone for good and that's money you're not getting.
James Kelly
I bet about 5% of them actually kickstarted in the first place.
Levi Garcia
>>Epic is trying to encourage competition except it doesn't, they simple want more people on their shitty store to make more money in the future, they couldn'd care less for competition or m-m-muh developers
Camden Collins
Oh no 700 copies lost Surely the game will never sell more than what was pre-ordered
Jason Moore
refunds? You can't buy this on Steam so where the fuck are they offering refunds from and what does it matter?
Jackson Moore
>gog >steam's competitor lmao
Connor Gomez
theyve been taking patreon money for literal years
Angel Cruz
>GOG isn't big enough to challenge steam >so why isn't epic trying to help them? >because they're not big enough
HURRRR A DURRRR
Ryder Morales
"on the first day"
Noah Hernandez
How can we even help Steam at this point, can someone maybe setup a patreon for them?
Chase Brown
I'm pirating the game.
Eli Barnes
>700 first day >didn't even send notices to all of their customers It's grown by now. I don't really care though since it's a free game, they can do whatever they want with it.
Joshua Phillips
Post your pc games library.
Xavier Reyes
Fortnite basically died today. It is over.
Easton Phillips
A loss is a loss no matter how you try to paint it, also that's only "day one" and hasn't been updated since.
Jace Torres
I do remember, but man I wanted a SP MechWarrior game to the point that I was willing to support them further. Shame on me and I hope they lose the IP.
Matthew Sanchez
They're required to price match the Epic Store price though, which completely kills the entire point of the third party sellers in the first place.
Aaron Cooper
>>so why isn't epic trying to help them? because epic doesn't care about competition, especially about gog
Kayden Mitchell
Except they are purposely delaying refunds so the 700 is just the start. People asking where are there refunds on twitter are getting blocked.
Xavier Turner
There was a kickstarter? I thought most people pre ordered when they were giving away free shit for MWO. Also on a side note, the Mad II sucks ducks. They shat on an amazing mech.
Michael Garcia
name one 3rd party game that valve wouldnt let release on other sites, ill wait.
Grayson Harris
Good luck getting the shills to admit that.
Gabriel Evans
>reviews are social features
Leo Cook
3.5% first day probably about 5% the second day once word gets out then back to another 3.5% the following day Then 2% the next two days then probably down to 1% for the next couple days
thats 18% in a week then over the next week or so perhaps 2% totalmore as people living under rocks find out.
for an even 20% preorder cancel rate. Thats my prediction
>500,000 sales magically pop out of nowhere during a sale and all of a sudden the devs go from not avoiding talking about sales to boasting about it every 5 minutes Definitely not suspicious at all.
Owen Turner
>pre order costs 50 dollars >700 x 50 = 35000 dollars They lost 35000 dollars in less than a day.
Those are the first refunds that went through though, there are a shit ton more that PGI keep delaying, they are supposed to send emails out regarding the delayed refunds by the 4th.
Bentley Williams
Mechwarrior 5 only sold 20,000 copies? I would say that is their main issue - not the refunds. That should be six figures if they were doing it 'right'.
Jordan Allen
The fact that only 20,000 people pre-ordered is pretty shitty.
Elijah Wilson
i literally didnt know im asking as i type for a refund epic saving me money as usual
Chase Clark
> lost 35000 And gained several millions day before.
How are refunds working? I know for the shenmue 3 refunds they onlh refund the game which is 30 so if you backed at higher tiers you only get 30 and have to war the rest. If mech warrior is the same no wonder people are not refunding
Levi Long
>Only money you gain is from being bailed out This is not good for them. They want that bailout money AND sales. Now they out have the former and people hate you even more. Rip future sales, epic won't buy all their games forever ;)
Dylan Bailey
>implying I can't pirate this AND play something else
Jose Young
>3,5% in a day >not huge Either way, I'm going to be playing it on my launcher of choice: CODEX
> people hate you even more Certified Steam® gamerz™ you mean?
Leo Young
MWO is fun though. It's a good Mechwarrior entry too. Why do people hate it? All I can think of is excessive monetization (felt like everything was available for money when I tried it out)
I know I'm dropping it now for good. Between that new shitty system, mw5 and the mad II being dog shit that can't even equip as much daka as the mad I there is no reason to play. Plus their player numbers were already dropping. MWO might legitimately die. Gotta think long term. Epic made up for that, but they still lost that additional money, they lost customer good will, people are leaving their current game out of anger, and people will not trust them in the future harder than before.
>free game Would you look at this Steamfag over here, why don't go back cleaning Gaben's ass
Benjamin Cruz
>Skinnyfat >Bald >Looks like a dog goblin He may have money, but at least you'll never be as ugly as this nigger.
Isaiah Nelson
Scalding! +1 to your social credit score, ching-ching.
Christian Brooks
Why does Yea Forums suddenly care about this "tumblr art game that looks like shit anyway"? Lashing out like this is usually driven by... fear. A fear for what? That Steam won't be the premier place for PC games?
Or, is it more likely that you won't be able to "punish" the game by not buying it or leaving negative reviews until you get your way?
If you've ever read I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, Yea Forums reminds me of the AI who loves to torture and abuse the ones he thinks he has control over, but is instantly worried that he'll lose his play things forever.
Though I might put more stock into gamer posting for a week or two.
Dominic Diaz
>2019 >Still giving money to the developers of MW:O These idiots have it coming.
Jonathan Cruz
>BT fans are a special kind of crazy. When the genre you love is essentially non-existent well you go a bit crazy.
Gabriel Gonzalez
So where do you imagine games should be kept digitally instead? A download page that can just as easily go away at any minute. Because physical is absolutely going away.
Jaxon Gomez
>mods have confirmed that all Epic threads are made by one autist >that same autist that shitpost MHworld flopthreads and Cyberpunk threads because he fucked up with the Op images imagine this is your life spamming threads on Yea Forums all day every day just to lower the board quality he does it all for free
I actually don't mind the EGS stuff because every game on EGS seems to be cracked pretty quickly. Plus it's exposing western devs as the trash that they are.
Hudson James
Those are some really fucking weird numbers to pick. Does this mean only 20 000 people pre ordered the game? What about the other days? Not everyone might have been able to refund during that first day. Is the 20 000 people a subset of the total pre orders and there's possibly a larger amount of refunds if you pick a different subset of 20 000 people?
Literally the only place I see any talk of it is devs spamming shit and reposting anyone even mentioning the game on their twitter. Even the subreddit is less then 45K people which is probably from before the EGS thing and only 350 are online at anytime.
These devs act like some girl who rejected your advances.
Angel Bennett
only giving the numbers for day one, not the folliw up days.
ok retard.
Luke Jenkins
they said that 10 years ago.
Jonathan Campbell
>Implying 700 refunds isn't alot of refunds before a game even fucking comes out The other 19,300 probably aren't even following this shit, they're mechgame boomers who don't know how social media works
Chase Thomas
They're all on the Satisfactory Discord you fucking steamdrone.
Angel Robinson
no not by me and any other fan. as a bonus i have stopt my support of mwo too. i advertise this to other friends of me to.
thanks for proving my point, DED GAEM meanwhile factorio, lots o streams
Brody Perez
proof
Adrian Anderson
no its 4k epictard, your quiet defensive.
Luke Cox
Not sure what your problem is, are you saying that epic should not allow devs to sell outside EGS ? You know, one of the things you faggots bitch about? It's like you don't really care about anything, but you bitch because it's popular thing to do
Brayden Allen
they never let you know as would only show the mistrust against epic. that pgi dosnt care about the best for the game and all future pgi products will not find any sells as custemor base got allienated.
Nathaniel Lee
>epic shills show up after thread is already dead long break this time?