I don't care what anyone says; I love this game

We know, Todd.

faggot

Playing settlement dress up was the only redeeming feature

Like what?

>The map is a solid 9.5/10
the map is awful and spaced horrendously. locations are hardly different outside of the glowing sea, and there's nothing interesting in it.

>Character facial customization 8/10
no sliders is a huge fuck up and even ends up looking the same. hairstyles are also some of the worst I've ever seen.

>Modding community (doesn't factor into overall score) 10/10
it's a good thing you didn't add that in since that's an absolute joke.

How is the modding community a joke?
Also, the other scores are pretty fair. Name 5 open world games with better maps than FO4.

>Name 5 open world games with better maps than FO4.
anything by rockstar and ubisoft
>inb4 some fag says LOLNO

Name the specific games that you have played with better maps.
Go ahead, faggot.

>How is the modding community a joke?
all it takes is one glance at the front page of the nexus.

>Name 5 open world games with better maps than FO4
I'll agree with ubisoft since their recent games have some pretty great maps like ghost recon and division. haven't played far cry or a R* game in quite a while though.

rdr2
gtav
wildlands
div2
fo76

>name *insert arbitrary number* of thing to prove your point to me
lmao true brainlet arguement, game sucks bigger.

>bigger
Phoneposter reply disregarded.

agreed. do mods even get counted since they arent base-game?

No, like I said they're a bonus but not worth any points.

I think most people hate this game because they played it like a rpg...which is not their fault since it was the marketing around it, but the dialogues, the overall story and the leveling are by far the worst parts of the game

>dialogues
are mostly worthless. you get forced into MUH SHAUN so much early game its nauseating to ever replay those parts.

It just wasent as good as 3 was for its time

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The dialogue is a fucking joke. I'm using that mod witch makes your whole line appear in a dialogue box and every answer is the same. I also hate how there're only charisma checks.

the entirety of institute

This is the only fallout game I have ever played. Did not play through but entertained me well.

That game sucks so much. I prefer put my cock in a bottle with acid before than a go to play that game again.

I fall asleep literally every time I play cit

sounds comfy

Not on purpose user.
I've never had vista make me sleepy. Maybe I'll start playing it to go to sleep

I think both Far Harbor and Nuka World were better than the main game, mainly because they seem to adress a lot of whats wrong with the main game, Nuka World for example has a lot of evil roleplay character possibilities, Far Harbor adds back stat checks and its story with synths is a lot better written.

I wish I could fall asleep playing vidya, it stimulates my sperg brain too much. Also
>vista
I'll let your phoneposting slide this once.

It's shit though. The entire game is as deep as a puddle but wide as an ocean. That's not good, at all. Every stat is just "Increases X by %". The RPG mechanics are stripped completely bare, the dialogue is skeletonized into some bastard Mass Effect wheel, the stats are gone, and the perks are just bland. It's crap.

I just like downloading weapon and lewd mods for it.

>Hey guys we can make advanced robots and can program AI
>Hey how about we manufacture, for some fucking reason, a fully sentient machine with feelings, independent thought, and the ability to learn and reason on its own terms, and make them eat, shit, and have blood and breathe oxygen? We will use this machine to do basic slave labour and mundane tasks and morally objectionable things that we don't want to do.
>I mean we are fully in control of what we create, and if we wanted a workforce, we could totally program an AI that was just smart enough to do a fantastic job but dumb enough to not become a literal sentient person, but I think we should go with the route that's obviously playing God and will obviously cause trouble, creating an artificial personhood.
Shit's so fucking dumb.

Same shit in Blade Runner, which almost makes me not like the movie.
To be fair, BR2049 addressed this with the scene where the lady was shopping for one and Luv said that she shouldn't bother with buying ones with personality and reasoning since they're just gonna be slaves.

Thanks user, I'm going to work and I'm tired cause I didn't get any sleep.

Fallout 4 is the only game I manage to fall asleep with, I'm going to start playing four when I can't sleep.

>anything related to RPG elements is objectively downgraded from previous games
>gets a pass because the lighting is a little bit prettier and id made the usual gamebryo gunplay a little less mediocre
>Bethesda still can't do ladders

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In Blade Runner they're not robots, they're like organically-grown genetic clones of humans or something. Bioengineered to be a slave yet still possessing of intelligence due to their genetic similarity to humans.

With a robot though, it's an entirely closed system. You literally can choose every single facet of its existence and function from ground-up to ground-zero, due to programming it and designing every single point of it.

I never got close to finishing Far Harbor because of a fucking bug bug. That stupid-ass computer world section where you have to escort the little virtual beetles with data packets, and on like the 4th or 5th level it's permanently bugged at 80% and they never came out with a patch as far as I'm aware.
Classic Bethesda.

Yeah considering the Gen 2 synths did everything the Gen 3s could do the whole "human synths" project barely made any sense

The only "advantage" Gen 3s have is that they look like real people. Maybe you create a few of them to infiltrate the surface but for most of your workforce literally why wouldn't you just stick with the Gen 2 robotic looking ones that never develop sentience.

The thing about Fallout 4 that made me the angriest was doing a playthrough where I sided with the Institute, took Father up on his offer to look around the facility and get to know everybody and their research.

Then I went back to him with some questions about what I'd seen, namely:
>Why do you continually fuck with the surface if all you want is for them to leave you alone? There is nothing you need on the surface and all you're doing is risking somebody finding their way into the Institute - just like I did
>What's the deal with the FEV lab and the supermutants?
>Why are you making Gen 3 synths at all?
>Why are you making a child synth when it can never age or grow? Are you just insane?
>What is the actual meaning of "Humanity Redefined"?
I had many other questions

but you can't ask him any questions
you can't do dick shit at all except radiant quests which are just "Go to place - kill rogue synth"

even when you become the Director of the entire Institute, you cannot do anything. You cannot set new policies, or ever ask anybody WHY they are doing any of this shit.

>Can't do ladders
>Can't do vehicles without using invisible explosions (look it up seriously)
They need a new engine
.
They cannot expect to go into a new gen with that slap-dash, band-aided, clunky old toaster of an engine. New Vegas should have been the last game made on the engine, even Skyrim was pushing it. They should have been working on a new engine since 2011. But they didn't. They instead released a shitty online game with their piss-awful spaghetti code outdated engine, shoving online components into where they should have never been shoved, a Frankenstein-esque project led by a facetious madman.

And now they're making Starfield with this same fucked up engine, and along with that, their flagship series, Elder Scrolls, will yet again have this crap engine clunking along well into the 2020s. Christ, when you look at what companies like R* are doing with their in-house engines, and then look at Bethesda, it really shows just how far behind and laughable they are

It’s a good game, just not good fallout game.

if on PC you can "disable" certain blocks in your path to make the quest easier. assuming you dont want to mod it out entirely or console complete it straight out.

the quest has no place in this gen of fallout thats all about shooty shooty bang bang dont think too hard

You just didn't encounter any game breaking bugs yet. When you do, the only way to fix it is to start all over and hope it doesn't happen again. And you can't install mods if you want the achievements. Blame the Xbox retards for demanding achievements in the first place.

>best game ever!
>-buzzfeed

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Not.everyone plays on PC. Why is there always somebody that says, "just do this on PC" when somebody runs into a problem in a Bethesda game. The developer should fix their fucking game. Period.

thats why the preface "if on PC"

in no way am i defending bethesda on their bugs. thats ludicrous. Starfield is using the same engine and i can only imagine how planets and space docks are going to explode if touched, or fall out of the sky into the netherworld like cars off a highway overpass in fo4. its all a shitshow.

>He cares about achievements
lmao

I don't play on PC, but the bug is that it's stuck at 80% and the little bugs don't fully deliver the data, they get to the finish point and just stand there.

I don't care that you don't care, but gonna say it anyway: you have shit taste.

I can't believe Bethesda is using their outdated shitty engine. I'm honestly not touching any of their games until they upgrade.

>not being an achievement slut

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I could get some enjoyment out of it, building was fun for a time, shooting mechanics worked, then you realize there's NO unique weapons in the game, all just RNG bullshit, less voice actors than fucking oblivion, empty shallow quests that don't get anywhere near as creative as Fallout 3, and just overall an extremely disappointing experience. Not even the mods for it are good, there's literally nothing but shit weapon/armor mods, this time in Skyrims life cycle we had a half dozen DLC sized quest mods.

How else can you be a completionist nowadays? They're ubiquitous

by collecting in game items like we did before achievement horseshit

Yes dear but that was before achievements wasn't it

its just as good as after. you dont need to attention whore your cheevos to the rest of us.

The biggest problem I have with thsi game is why is Nate so quick to forget about Nora? Within days of in game time you can find a replacement wife

Why do fuckwits refer to the main character as nate/nora? The main character is designed by you, nate/nora is your fucking spouse.
Ah yes, the golden age of cancerous collection bullshit, like hunting for 50 flags in asscreed or 200 riddles in Arkham City. That's totally less fucked than achievements.

>hunting for 50 flags in asscreed
I still can't believe I did that shit

>That's totally less fucked than achievements.
>the world needs more useless idiots posting screenshots of their steam achievements

>the world needs ubishit style developers putting a ton of scavenger hunt crap in games and calling it open world

nahnahnah you are missing the point.
in fallout 4 you have all kinds of things to collect that the game gives not a shit about and does not factor in gameplay around them. collect those.

nah man fuck enforced scavenger hunts used as an excuse for gameplay. go collect 100 fuckin pillows and break the game by jumping into them instead imo.

Achievements ruin the way I play games.

why would I waste time on an average game?

Literally unironically a bad videogame. 4/10.

Even if you mean it that you don't care, you're still a fucking retard.

i would be okay with it if it was a standalone game and not bethesda raping their adopted child

This. Why are there no creature or huge quest mods yet? New Vegas had Bounties 1-3, beyond boulder dome, project brazil and the frontier. What does F04 have? One or two significantly smaller mods that dont have near as much quality

>t. underaged retarded newfag
fuck off back to /r/fallout already bethesda cocksucker