>Dexerto have evidence that Activision Blizzard have been looking to partner up with companies with access to streamers and influencers in a bid to boost Overwatch League viewership and live attendance. >The explanation provided for the partnership was that the Overwatch League has been “bleeding viewership” and Activision Blizzard wanted to focus on arresting that trend >A clip from popular Team Liquid Fortnite player Ryan ‘Chap’ Chaplo, who has nearly one million Twitch followers, shows him speaking openly about the posting on the Twitch bounty board. In the clip he explains that those who agree are given money in exchange for “raiding” the Overwatch stream. Raiding is a mechanic where you essentially transfer your viewers to another channel to combine audiences. >These strategies to bolster viewership come amid reports that the overall number of viewers has continued to steadily decline since the league’s inception. The Esports Observer, a publication primarily concerned with the business side of esports, reported on June 11 that the viewership for the league had “continued to slide”
looks like banning pepes and sanitizing your chat doesn't help much! OUCH!
Ok? I'm still coming back for that 2-2-2 lock might be actually fun
Xavier Walker
Overwatch is only good for the porn. The rest is irredeemable garbage.
Michael Jenkins
Why not invest that money in to actually trying to make the game better?
Lucas Fisher
huh? i mean i don't like overwatch but it's 2019 and this is literally just current day marketing, you know? streamers and influencers are getting paid by companies for shilling. that's how things work nowadays. i know it might sound like an outrageous failure to someone who's still stuck in 2010 but getting things to become viral is an effective way of marketing in 2019
Benjamin White
Blizzard has exactly 0 competent game designers.
Jeremiah Flores
they kicked all the talent and replaced them with niggers, faggots and women
its more viable to just pay streamers to pretend like the game isn't cancerous
Doesn't spell good for the game itself if its not fun enough to garner popularity by its own name. But has to recruit Fortnite streamers to advertise your Overwatch esports.
Its like if Pepsi would give money to promoters of Coca-Cola so they would briefly mention Pepsi is also a thing.
Ayden Phillips
Because Blizzard is perma cucked by Activision I rly wish that OW was managed by ppl like the old wow team but sadly that will never happen
Robert Ross
how is that gonna help, nobody is going to stream instead because they want to get paid now blizzard on the late train as per usual nothing newsworthy about that
Luis Gray
I play dota instead since it's for white males
Elijah Richardson
league of loserpedos has done this for years already lmfao
Luis Campbell
Most gaming companies embrace the VGS spam, because they're not idiots and their players aren't snowflakes.
Lmao I thought they were already doing this when shroud was streaming it a couple of days ago. Guess this is just to cover their tracks
Charles Clark
How come they never try the marketing tactic of making a good product? I hear it can be quite effective.
Samuel Mitchell
Why not just add a cooldown for each voiceline to prevent spamming. Or even better make it an option for the faggota that get their feelongs hurt over trivial things.
Gotta give their jannies something to do, I hear they actually pay them.
Jordan Ortiz
Pepsi is made by the same company though.
Charles Flores
you're a faggot
Adrian Gonzalez
you mean for russians
Ryan Reed
>Its like if Pepsi would give money to promoters of Coca-Cola so they would briefly mention Pepsi is also a thing. theyre literally the same thing
Jackson Gutierrez
Twitch owns Wiki sites that they allow you to pay to embed your stream into (muted)
Battlenet launcher auto-embeds a muted twitch stream to gain viewers
LoL has used embeds forever
Magic the gathering paid tons of money to get 100k of embeds across various websites
This is nothing new. You can pay to embed on a ton of wiki sites including twitch owned one.
Nolan Edwards
Twitch owns Gamepedia Gamepedia sells embeds to your twitch stream on their site Twitch sells viewer counts
Nothing new. Any website is allowed to hide an embed and mute it and twitch will count it. You are allowed to sell this service. (fextralife, launchers etc)
It was an awful idea to begin with. Most games have a finite shelf life. Dumping all that money to develop a league was just stupid.
Cameron Evans
blizz is so pathetic now they even went back on the "we are always right, role queue is never happening" shit.
Jack Lopez
I think this practice of manipulating stream numbers with incentives is scummy and completely disingenuous.
League of Legends incentivizes their playerbase to be viewbots, by putting a LoL esports stream or VOD in the background, you earn ingame currency. (300Blue Essence a week for idly spectating three games)
Lincoln Lopez
yeah but only people fucked by it are advertisers and non botters
Twitch make money and sells embeds themselves by inflating view count.
Parker Jackson
It's a miracle it got any views at all.
They designed it to be as a shallow and braindead as possible, yet want it to be an esport. Basically the old wanting to both keep and eat the cake.
League has been going 10 years strong and CS, Dota like what 15? OW barely lasted 2 years. It's not unthinkable for a good multiplayer game to last half of our lifetimes, they just have to be developed and taken care of properly.
Parker Martin
Got more? Been wanting more pilot suits, battle armor, or semi-mecha to save and reference.
Ayden Ortiz
Reminder that one big leak shitting one blizzard was true and Overwatch 2 is PVE Left for Dead like shooter. Reminder that the company is literally dying and that's a good thing.
It's so sad seeing how this game is being handled. It had so much potential, and it's squandered by retarded execs in activision.
Evan Williams
How are they fucking up this bad? They they literally follow the /pol/ or Steve Jobs theories of firing or pissing off the people who cared and eventually surrounded themselves with yes men, marketers, and diversity shit?
Jeremiah Mitchell
Blizzard are to blame as much as activiom is. Don't act as if blizzard hasn't been shit for a decade and is just being oppresed by bobby and his henchmen.
Joseph Collins
That's just a gigantic mecha shaped like a woman. It's actually piloted.
You know, that first co-op mission that Blizzard did for Overwatch was actually really good. It was the only time in the history of Overwatch that I stopped and said "Wow, Blizzard. You actually did something really good."
And since I have only ever reinstalled the game to play the new co-op event missions. But that first one was the only good one, the second one with all of the generic soldiers L4D-like special enemies felt so unspired and the third one was even worse, it was literally all of the same BORING soldiers from the second one.
Needless to say, I don't trust Blizzard to make a Overwatch PVE game anymore. They completely tapped out of their effort and creative juices after that first one.
what is this 2-2-2 lock? tank-support-attack lock like a highlander match in tf2?
Joshua Harris
what is this 2-2-2 lock? tank-support-attack lock like a highlander match in tf2?
John James
They fall back on their WoW design since that's all they know. It doesn't actually fix anything though since the problem was that people get shoehorned into roles while shit like tanks needs someone with a shield to block for their allies otherwise the tank pick is a waste.
John Cox
yes you literally every game HAS to be 2 tanks, 2 supports and 2 damage even casual yes they are that retarded
Ian Kelly
I see. There's only a handful of heroes that can tank with barriers while even those don't have it as a primary means of defense right?
Adrian Powell
>even casual excuse me what, there's no way they're this stupid about this change. what's the point of casual then if it's forced into the competitive format
Joseph Perez
I mean, some other barrier users aren't tanks i mean.
Levi Nguyen
>well balanced competitive game matchmakers gravitates towards a 50% winrate for everyone >Blizzard "we'll just force everyone to lose 50% of the time!"
>well designed fun esports games become popular and get a lot of views >Blizzard "we'll just force people to watch it!"
Someone tell Blizzard that replicating the symptoms is not the same as having a good core state
Benjamin Rivera
casual is just unranked ranked now
Brody James
at least the porn is good
Alexander James
One OWL leader/group guy or whatever someone who doesn't play the game is, used to spam me up online and show his dick when I didn't ask. All of that prior to working in OWL.
Daniel Walker
are there at least custom game modes that allow you to pick outside of this format or have more than one of the same character? I can't understand who thought it'd be a good idea to do this. Not even mobas force people into specific player roles.
Brayden Brown
Who is working in OWL, you or that guy?
Anthony Perry
On one end I hate the idea of a forced meta by principle, but considering literally EVERY time I've tried watching overwatch streams for the past like 2 years every single match has been the same 3 tanks + 3 healers on both teams, so maybe a rash rule like this is necessary to make the game not boring turtle-fests.
Daniel Cruz
They really need to fire kaplan
Oliver Sanders
custom games are free, sure. but good luck finding a real custom game and not an ERP ground
Carter Watson
>so maybe a rash rule like this is necessary to make the game not boring turtle-fests. if the game wasn't a retarded shitfest trying to shoehorn tanks and healers into a fucking FPS this wouldnt be a problem
Carson Perez
if there's a forced 2 attack characters who would you play as?
Blizzard pander to sjw lefties in the game because they are the people who are most likely to have money to waste on lootboxes and more least likely to earn thing in the game.
Mason Reyes
Their "esports director" really left their shit in a mess before she quit huh. Now they know to not push esports into everything as hard as they did. Nonetheless from a director being a middle aged Korean who doesn't play games.
Nathan Parker
Junkrat and Torb.
Gavin Clark
>Terrible game design + forced esports focus = shitty game people don't care about or want to watch anymore Wow who could have seen this coming?!?!?
it's in cali and the company culture is leftist now
Eli Cox
It's going to be the two snipers. Snipers are absolutely overpowered and have relatively little drawbacks aside from less health. Expect Hanzo and Widow to be the defacto picks
Aaron Thomas
I feel like half of the characters in Overwatch are trapped in a shitty game. Forced esports is one of the lamest fucking video game related things of all time.
OWL is an obvious forced paid hype from the beginning. People cheer so artificially and its only gotten smaller since it started.
Also, why havent they done anything big outside of their own backyard? Even fighting games usually have majors around the globe
Jaxon Lewis
Why not just allow people to ban heroes before the pick phase?
Henry Powell
>Also, why havent they done anything big outside of their own backyard? Even fighting games usually have majors around the globe The idea is for each team to eventually build or lease their own arena to have home/away games like actual sports, but to my knowledge only one team is actually in the process of building one.
William Green
One of the key problems with Overwatch is that it's so shallow that there is no variation in how heroes can be played. Now they apply that to lineups as well which will EVER MORE limit the ways you can play the game.
It's so fucking utterly retarded it blows my mind how this ever got approved. Like whoever their lead game designers are needs to fucking get their heads examined.
Blizzard has one of the worst design departments in the entire world. Like shovelware-tier bad. It's disguised by pixar art and normies can't tell the difference.
Literally: >Late to the microtrans game >Late to the mobile cashgrab game >Late to the moba game >Late to the timegating game >Tries to shoehorn all of the above in their games with terrible onboarding and pacing I know mobile gacha devs with more tact and execution chops.
Then the balance gets even more fucked to the point where things become unwinnable on a lot of maps. That's a even more terrible idea.
Jose Roberts
OWL is a bubble thats going to pop at some point.
Just look at what I consider to be the big three of consistent esports, CSGO, LoL, and Dota2. All three of those had fanbases that grew much more organically, over a much longer period of time.
Blizzard out of nowhere pumped so much fucking money into OWL without even knowing if it'd have interest long term. There was no slow gradual growth, it was BAM FUCKING 20 MILLION DOLLARS TO EVEN GET A TEAM IN THE FUCKING LEAGUE.
Not only that, but idk. I know some people can follow whats going on, but Overwatch is such a pain in the ass to spectate. Its so cluttered and confusing with how fast everyone can go. It doesn't have the benefits of the slower, more clear visual of CSGO, or the top down isometric view of the moba duo.
Colton Jones
To be honest overwatch was a fantastically designed game.
As a casual, party arena shooter. It was built to be simple fun you could hop into at any time and do whatever you wanted.
But they saw how much money other games were making from e-sports and stupidly tried to turn their party game into an e-sport too, sucking out all the soul and fun in the process. Couple that with SJWs taking over the company, all the talented straight white males who were responsible for actually making good games leaving, and you had a recipe for disaster.
Brody Cruz
I hop into the stream every now and again when there's nothing on. I saw a team named Texas something and it was 6 Koreans. Got a good laugh out of me. Did they tie teams to locations randomly so that it's more relatable to the viewers or something?
Camden Flores
If the game is such a clusterfuck that it only allows a single viable team composition, which has to be broken by a forced role system instead of bans+no mirror picks then what's even the point of having so many different characters?
>To be honest overwatch was a fantastically designed game.
This was never the case. It was always awfully designed. The fact that each hero can only be played in one way is one of the biggest fuck-ups they did. But then they just kept piling them on.
>To be honest overwatch was a fantastically designed game. Wrong, the fact that they wanted both hard counters and have a super that is reset by switching is absolutely retard tier design
Anthony Miller
Why not port it to the Switch if they want new players?
Ayden Wilson
the fact that it was forced 6v6 from the very start means it was never a good casual party shooter couple that with goyboxes and you'll have people being turbomad that they're losing and getting less progress to their goybox every game fuck overwatch, TF2 is infinitely better in every facet
Ayden Russell
>port a game that is only playable online to a system designed to be carried around and is the worst possible system to play online on
Jonathan Torres
guys with boners
the only smart move Blizz has is to make OW a full-blown porn game. Instead of dying, your character gets raped by 6 clones of whoever killed you for a brief period. matches are won by impregnating the entire enemy team. all female characters are puta/have ovipostitors and all males have boyvaries.
this is the ONLY thing that can give OW even an ounce of value. has been for over a year. this isn't the first time I suggest this and won't be the last. I email blizz staff regularly with my advice, unfortunately they're being stubborn/stupid.
>implying Mercy doesn't want to get pegged from above by Pharah while she smothers the healslut's face with her sweet Egyptian milkers
Esports is the cancer killing Blizzard. If they just designed their games to be fun instead of trying to constantly strip everything down to maximize the balance for the top percent of players to try and get people to watch their shitty streams, more people would actually play their fucking games.
Julian Campbell
>Some random autists on Yea Forums think they know how to develop a league better than blizzard does
Good, so basically no reason to never not play arcade then.
Brayden Wright
But this was going to be the next baseball
Cooper Price
>overwatch doesn't even have any sexy characters aside from widowmaker Are you some kinda faggit boy? I don't like faggit boys in my town. All boys gotta pay tribute to mommy, and yer lookin at her. Whaddya mean, what do I mean by tribute? Damn kid, there's a reason is whiter than high clouds driftin' across the prairie. Tribute. Now.
obviously they should un-nerf widowmaker and tracer. this is still objectively their best option, you can't deny that.
Fuck Blizzard, my money is on paladins, when can say pinches negros de cagada in the chat
Liam Young
enjoy your 30 min queues bro
Jace Roberts
All this just to shove Let's Go Bash The Queers into everyone's face.
Carson Bennett
Is this why I've seen Myth & Shroud playing OR? lmao that's funny, but I do enjoy watching Shroud play OW just because I would clap his ass in game
Jeremiah Adams
I swear if they didn't have OWL the game would be 10 times better. Get rid of trash ass hero's like Moira, Brig, and whatever else shit hero and bring back the FPS aspect. Besides Reinhardt, keep him.
Cameron Long
Meta was trash for the majority of season 2; for some retarded reason teams use more than 6 players so a lot of fan favourites are forever benched and never get playtime; garbage format of series of 4 maps, plenty of times the winner is decided in map 3 and sometimes even in map 2, yet they still have to play all 4 maps; Awful season format where teams play some teams once and other twice; Pepes are banned lol.
Who would want to watch this mess? At least tve game will be better with 2 2 2, but still some heroes are designed just to ruin someone elses experience.
Joseph Garcia
>enjoy your 30 min queues bro
You're pretending queue times won't become insanely long with this forced change? Do you think 1/3 of all players will lock in as tanks and the other 1/3 as supports? No, the split will be like >80% dps >15% support >4% tanks, which then pick roadhog, dva or hamtaro >1% tanks that pick roadhog/orisa
Tyler Bell
*rein/orisa
Thomas Russell
>playing "blizzard" games past 2010 There's been a sharp decline in quality after Activison bought them. Pretty much everyone who made all those old classic games have left the company by now. It's just Activison under a different name
Adrian Hall
Guess Project Titan ended up being an MMO anyways
Thomas Cruz
What did Tracer look like before the nerf?
Daniel Young
We're just as clueless as blizzard, but at least most anons will admit it.
Dylan Nguyen
this kept finding too many faggots on those chill/sing/rp servers they make only good ones are actual games or some workshop
Dylan Long
That was the bones in the animation fucking up the model and it only ever happened during specific animations. That was a super early fix too.
William Carter
most anons on Yea Forums have literal decades of gaming experience and at some point were deep into quake and doom compared to the average blizzard employee fuck yes they know more about what makes a fun game
Connor Powell
Let me put it into perspective >the devs for overwatch are MMO devs that failed to make an MMO and salvaged it into a super dumbed down bare-bones FPS that had esports forced into it
I was implying we're clueless as far as making a succesful esport league goes.
Camden Torres
>implying incel fortress is good all hero shooters are garbage by default
Daniel Ortiz
the first good step towards that would be to make a fun game
Carson Lewis
by that logic quake is a hero shooter because you play differently with a RL and a lightning gun
Gabriel Brown
Might as well scrap the entirety of overwatch. The maps are just a series of chokepoints, the characters are commitie designed inoffensive and bland garbage with no character, the skills are mostly shit and having ultimates is just plain retarded in a fps. Open up the maps, remake every character, scrap skills, weapons now run out of ammo, introduce weapon pickups that give every character a unique weapon for them that allows some form of counterplay thay isn't just picking a different hero.
Hudson Martinez
what the fuck are you on about retard
Bentley Harris
fuck off retard
Camden White
Diablo Immortal will save Blizzard. I'm not joking. The mobile market is the most profitable right now and there's a severe lack of new ARPGs. Before you go "BUT POE!!". Everyone has already played it to death and it never really had the charm of Diablo and it always felt slower and clunkier.
If they're this desperate for more views, you'd think there'd be more content. No, skins aren't content.
Wyatt Ward
>ultimates is just plain retarded in a fps Nothing wrong with ultimates. But when your ultimate is always some big dumb thing that gets filled up passively and by doing shit, but is also reset on character swap, it just becomes shit
Diablo Immortal doesn't even have anything to do with Diablo, it was a different mobile chink game reskinned with the diablo theme.
Joseph Thompson
>Diablo Immortal will save Blizzard
They don't need saving when they have a game with lootboxes in it. There's a reason why AAA publishers fight tooth and nail to keep lootboxes.
Oliver Butler
>disgusting chink pig above anyone embarrassing list
Mason Adams
>Her body type or nationality having to do with her utility as a hero
Kevin Lewis
There'll be a "quick play classic" in the arcade category that will let you pick outisde of 2-2-2, but not more than one of each hero. Need custom games for the latter.
Parker Butler
>How a man makes a tier list vs. how a woman makes a tier list
Luis Hill
?
Aiden Barnes
>Richard Lewis >cites himself as source yeah, naw.
Nolan Watson
the tier list is about how fuckable they are dumbass
Nicholas Jackson
>widow that high >a brainwashed murderslave of talon that killed her last husband
If anyone is F tier, it's her.
Leo Cruz
>they'd rather waste resources on streamers to play their games then take a step back and ask themselves "why does nobody watches/play it and what is wrong with the game?" these idiots have too much money.
Ryan Evans
I mean, she's cute though.
Jaxon Roberts
Ultimates are fucking shit in overwatch. It's nothing but aoe damage/single target damage/aoe stun/aoe heal
Julian Watson
Honestly this a good time for another company to swoop in and get all the dsigruntled former ow fans. Just dont go ban happy and force retarded rules like being unable to stick to one character or 2/2/2 teams
Jayden Young
This. The main obstacle Blizzard is themselves. They want to control all their communities instead of concentrating on making a good game and letting the community thrive. It's what made W3 the success it had.
Logan Wilson
That's what I said.
But if you made ultimates for example a skill with a bit longer cooldown and better tied in with the rest of your kit then it could've been fine. As in it was a useful tactical option that you have to time and use properly, not some "win teamfight" or some shit button. It could even be a passive that procs during a specific trigger and will then end up on a cooldown.
Juan Morales
>Honestly this a good time for another company to swoop in and get all the dsigruntled former ow fans. Just dont go ban happy and force retarded rules like being unable to stick to one character or 2/2/2 teams
No one is gonna do that when >the last ones that tried flopped, like battleborn, lawbreakers, quake champions, etc >battle royale is incredibly popular
