Is pic related truly a kamige or is it overhyped shit?

The later

It's based and kimikapilled, don't listen to the contrarian trannys

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It's both.

overhyped shit, but the second and third chapters are really solid
nice soundtrack too
youtu.be/SncWDvQqO9c
youtu.be/9qpfBtyEkEM

it starts getting good after the dog rape scene

its good but insects sucks ass and some sex scenes drag a lot like the teacher one otherwise you got a great soundtrack great characters and a nice story
youtube.com/watch?v=uzT7F95XlC0

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How does Yea Forums feel about Ever 17?

youtube.com/watch?v=siOCjEydLUU

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I thought it was boring. Also it was tled by the tlwiki clique so I don't even want to acknowledge any trash handled by them.

I got bored during the first route. Convince me to try again

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Unfortunately I read it after I played 999, so a lot of the impact of the true ending was lessened. Also, Sora route is fucking pointless and there's way too much overlap in general between routes.

Yes.
youtube.com/watch?v=zCjxVXX-YLE

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i shat bricks during coco's route

Love it, but ZE3 destroyed my trust in Uchi. I don't care about his new works anymore

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Not even this? He brought back his co-writer from the Infinity trilogy:

youtube.com/watch?v=8Ibjdx-Vdsg

I already know about it, and no. That's how bad ZE3 is

That's just because he had too much creative control. Some people thrive when they're working with the right co-writer.

Overhyped shit.

Now DI on the other hand...that's a true kamige

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>DI
You mean KKK

maybe overrated but it's 100 times better than umineko at the same general themes so it can't be that bad

definitely a game that only appeals to a very specific subset of person. I can't imagine anyone who wasn't a child of the internet between 1997 to 2007 really connecting with this game

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Blick and winkelpilled
I think R11 is better, though I wish they had time to add the third route. I think Ever17 is great too, but its pacing is godawful and it's like it's struggling to get away from Never7.

Who kicked the can?

Read it in japanese faggot

(You)

>and it's like it's struggling to get away from Never7.
wat

Jabberwocky is utter shit and ruin the whole themes and mood of the game.

Hard to tell, it has amazing parts and atrocious parts, and sometimes it is a snoozefest.

...

I'm You.

>play it for a few hours
>like it
>realize that it is censored
>into the trash

My Own Invention is 10/10. Everything else ranges from good to garbage.

it's okay

posting a true kamige.

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Pretty great for a VN, which sadly isn't saying much.

It peaks at the second chapter and while the rest has its moments it's too straightforward and predictable compared to the start. Also there's a lot of philosophical wankery that will be offputting to anyone who doesn't spend hours writing theories about how Gumby is an allegory for the plagues in Egypt.

But what happened to Kimika between the 8th and the 15th?

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Play the uncensored version then.

She probably withdrew due to feeling guilty about not protecting Zakuro enough. That would be true if the gap happens right after the whole karaoke incident like I'm thinking it does.

When I finished R11 I thought at first that I got a bad ending, only to realize it was the actual end of the game. Apparently I was supposed to find all the actual bad endings as some of them gave vital information about the plot, but honestly I just couldn't be arsed to fastforward through the entire game a few times over just for that. Sad really. The game could have easily been so much better if you didn't have to look up an explanation of the plot online afterwards just to understand it.

why did this nothing character who's only in like 1 minor scene get voice acting but tomosane doesn't?

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The last you see of her during that incident though is her getting abducted by the thugs and then she doesn't show up again until Mamiya's cult activities get going.

Because it's common for the protagonist to not be voiced in VNs.

>wojak poster
Thanks for proving my point nigger

then why did they give him (and all the other unvoiced characters, like the thugs) voice acting in the HD version?

Mah nigga

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Because it's common for the protagonist to be voiced in the censored console ports of VNs.

Yeah, it's bizarre thinking back to it, because she tells Mamiya she's a virgin, which means she wasn't raped by Shiroyama's gang after getting caught. I don't think we got a concrete answer what happened to her then but for some reason she made it out fine - she just became super guilty.

What HD version do you mean? Not the 2017 translation?

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>Yuki will never be your onee-san
Why are we even here? Just to suffer?
Also, her voice acting really made me love her early on.

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Subahibi got a resolution bump up with the EN release then about a year later in Japan they added an extra chapter, voice acting for Tomosane and I think some other minor male characters, and that resolution bump up that we got and rereleased it in Japan.
Some kind user patched in the stuff from that rerelease to our version except for that extra chapter. You can find the patch on vndb, or a prepatched version up on nyaa.

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She's dead, Jim.

>He didn't get the harem end

What's the extra chapter about?

Fuck if I know.

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Why does Yuki have a boner?

The extra chapter is a futa fanfiction.

That you're a complete idiot who missed the point? And gravitate toward edgy nonsense? Ok.

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>didn't play with the voice patch
Idiots.

Just looked up what else her voice actress has done and holy shit she's done the voice of like 700 characters since the year 2000.

Most people played it before the voice patch existed though.

>Pretty good game
>ends on a "lol it was just a fantasy some autistic girl was having" ending

Bro you don't get it, it's actually super deep philosophy that requires reading 200 external works to understand how deep and meaningful it is.

Jabberwocky best chapter. Don't you forget it.

user, that's just one of the three endings. And the most short one at that.

Reminder for idiots who haven't read it, voice patch fucks up the scripting somehow and reveals spoilers in scenes where words are supposed to be censored.

I think he's referring to one of Ayana's hypotheses.

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I didn't use the voice patch and still had that, I don't think it's related.

i only peeked into the demo and it seemed too pretentious for me. but still, i don't know what i should expect from this.

cute girls doing cute things

It's pretty straightforward once you get past the prologue's agonising talks about various literature the author liked.

If you already give up on what it has to say, avoid it until you feel like approaching it with an open mind.

This was pretty spooky and I had no idea what was really going on.

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Absolutely astonishing, I'm not afraid to say it's one of the best literature experiences I've had.

Did you have the dog patch installed?
I read the 1.0 Steam release with patch and that scene with the obscured names definitely had them all obscured.

Read a book.

I wonder if the old original version of SubaHibi is any good

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Apparently all versions are cut/censored in some way

I do, currently reading everything by Garborg.
Yea Forums loves this VN as well.

Yes. There was one instance where the name wasn't obscured. But I don't know how that patch would affect an entirely different scene. I'm pretty sure it was just a bug with the original release and you didn't notice or they patched it quickly. I think I remember Vodka indicating as such.

it's the truest ending because its the very last bit of content that you can see, you have to do everything else first

SCA-DI said it was more inspired by Nietzsche compared to SubaHibi, which was inspired by Wittgenstein. I have no idea how it really plays, but it's pretty.
How is the discussion for it there usually? I was genuinely interested in really analyzing the VN at one point but I had no one to do it with and called it quits.

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>name drops philosophers that have nothing to do with the theme or narrative
>narrative itself is boring and only one chapter (invention) is good all the way through
It’s good but overrated. It’s definitely not some intellectual masterpiece like people claim it is.

>but it's pretty
Are we looking at the same screenshots? This art is awful.

It's both

But muh Tractatus

I like the backgrounds. Character art is still amateur, but charming I think.

Never skip a leg day.

I dropped it because I couldn’t get through the incredibly slow and boring start. I dropped it around the part when the lesbians get on some magic train.

>Didn't even finish the prologue
You only had to play for about 30 more minutes for shit to get real.

I still have it downloaded so I might read more later.

Extremely overhyped, lots of fart-sniffing to justify what is essentially a pretty nasty rapefest.
Pretty good music tho.

They shit fling paragraphs at each other about it's themes and if it's pretentious or not. Just make a thread and see for yourself.
It will turn to shitposting about which VN is the most Yea Forums though in the end.
>dude muh fate morgana
>Nah bro Uminekochads where you @

If there’s one word that describes Subahibi, it is definitely pretentious.

I still don't
who the fuck was this character

m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ZKpMlE2Y8
>closest we’ll get to SubaHibi anime

>It will turn to shitposting
Color me surprised.

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The author's self-insert trolling you.

God/writer's self-insert/a bored autistic schoolgirl

>smoking

Dropped instantly

Meta mouthpiece of the author, and probably the dreamer thats creating the world the rest of the game that takes place in.

subahibi isn't pretentious because you have multiple opportunities to just get a very straight story with a decent conclusion and turn the game off
>lesbian yuki chapter if you end up with one of the twins
>better endings in mamiya/zakuro chapters

you can't even say the game is teasing you because it doesn't unlock the next chapter if you get these endings and nothing on the HUD shows there's something missing until its already there.

you only dive super deep into the philosophy stuff if you stick with it

Wow that's pretty bad

I was upset at that part too. The game has a habit of throwing something confusing at you and instead of explaining it they just keep going on ahead, so you're 20 minutes of dialogue later and still wondering what the fuck is happening.
That's disappointing but it's Yea Forums so not surprising. There is a lot of stuff to dig into with the VN, but I kind of suck at philosophy and I feel like you'd need a really strong grasp of the game as a whole before it starts making sense.
nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28834414
Here's the bonus niconico link so you can see the scrolling comments once you change the language at the bottom

>super deep into the philosophy stuff
jesus christ lol come on dude

fata morgana is overrated, prove me wrong

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Even those stories are riddiled with nonsensical ayana rambles and yuki/mamiya talking about whatever philosopher he’s reading about that day. I guess some routes don’t have that stuff, like the lesbian routes, but that doesn’t mean the game’s main story isn’t pretentious. It is.

I thought the game teased the reader by giving you the happy ending on insect's and then Ayana popping up and telling you "wowee that's happy for everyone but you know it won't happen" but I really liked the fact that they did that.
Nah, it makes sense, even if you remove her from most scenes she doesn't have that much of a direct impact on the development of most characters

Embarrassing thread.
>muh porn game is art! haven't you seen muh wittgenstein quote?!?!
YIKES!

Why is she in a washing machine?

This but unironically

It’s overrated but not because it’s porn. That meme needs to stop.

I dropped it when they were talking about making themselves sandwiches or some shit and were acting like highschoolers in spite of being fucking lost in a possibly collapsing underwater museum. It didn't fucking grip me.

> it makes sense
how much sense it makes doesn't matter, it's still extremely unsubtle and on the nose
> even if you remove her from most scenes she doesn't have that much of a direct impact
That's really not the point, it's just an extremely boring and pretentious thing to do

It's not as smart as it thinks it is, but it's still really good. Some of Mamiya's story is kind of a drag and the pseudo-philosophical info dumps aren't always executed particularly well. Despite that, it's probably too difficult for the typical brainlet moege VN reader to fully appreciate it.

I think it deserves to be called a kamige even though I can understand why some people justifiably don't like it.

it isn't
there, done

>muh porn game is deeeeeeeep

>porn game
did you also masturbate to scenes of people being tortured in movies, or just VN's?

Why does Kagami ask if Ayana is [Hasaki] during Takuji's route?
Why do Yuki and Takuji sometimes see Kagami without Tsukasa? What happens between July 7th and 12th that causes Yuki's memory to be replaced? If Yuki is supposed to see the Wakatsukis even when Hasaki isn't there, then why does this only happen on the 14th and 15th, and why does she stop seeing them after that, even though Hasaki wasn't there for those two days?
How is Mamiya able to be in different places experiencing different events at the same time?

In Yuki's version of events she saw Takuji on the roof earlier in the day before Zakuro killed herself on the 12th, but in Takuji's version of events that encounter never happened. It never happens in Yuuki's version either.
What happened to Yuki and Takuji at the end? Yuki says she feels her skull crack at the end of her chapter, and she never sees Hasaki, nor does Takuji.
Kimika was the last one on the roof with Takuji when Yuki finds them, but in Takuji's version she's the first to jump.
Why is there this dissonance?

How did Yuuki get away without a broken leg?
What was the significance of the count to 86,400 in the prologue? What's the significant of July 1999 in The End Sky ride? Just that Nostradamus predicted the end of the world then, even though that has nothing to do with the story?

Riruru's sex scene text specifically notes that she has balls, so why doesn't her CG show any?

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Redpill me on Higurashi and Tsukihime

t. got through the entirety of Umineko and in spite of the meandering bullshit that it devolved into in places, consider it one of the best VNs I've ever read

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To each their own, I enjoyed the fact that the VN showed grotesque as shit scenes for half an hour and aftewards bombarded you with philosophy for 15 minutes as if nothing happened

>i-it's not porn mom, it's real literature!

>you can't even say the game is teasing you because it doesn't unlock the next chapter if you get these endings and nothing on the HUD shows there's something missing until its already there.
Nigger what? The moment you unlock the second chapter it immediately becomes obvious that a new chapter will appear for each fragment of the chapter select screen so obviously there's still more to uncover when there are sections you can't access yet.

Ya'll need to read the Holy Bible.

>Some of Mamiya's story is kind of a drag
Yeah this is probably my biggest annoyance. There are moments when some of the lines are basically copy pasted several times over. I don't mind long-winded inner monologue but this was too much.

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Not really as she doesn't really do or impact anything except acting as an excuse to segue into philosophy corner.

It's still bad dude

I can't answer these, but I'll gladly share my own set of questions.

1. Did Takuji's personality in Tomosane actually have any supernatural powers? Were all the 'miracles' just his mind autocorrecting to maintain continuity?
2. Was the Web Bot Project bullshit too?
3. Why did Takuji's personality in Tomosane act so different before he 'discovered himself' the savior?
4. Why is the game filled with countless small details that match multiple characters? Ex. Takashima and Kimika share the twin rabbit dolls like Tomosane and Hasaki do, tons of others that I forget
5. If the actual events of the night of July 18th was a group suicide, why did it appear to Hasaki like the participants actually took off into the sky instead of falling to their deaths?
6. What explains the Wakatsuki's presence in Yuki's class?

Overrated as fuck. The only 2 good things in it are Yuki and the glorious OP

youtube.com/watch?v=iACCB9S1cQY

Didn't read Umineko, but I can say that Higurashi is just a very good mystery/thriller VN and that's worth reading despite the first two chapters having slow parts.
You shouldn't mind slow parts anyway since you already read Umineko without a problem, I'm trying to read Umineko but I get so bored while reading it

Tsukihime is like Fate but with a better plot and cast and far less needless explanation of the world's mechanics to bog it down.

Yeah, but I'm a retarded casual who can't get over the fact that it's not voiced. I mean, I'll get into it at some point, but - you know.

>There are moments when some of the lines are basically copy pasted several times over.
It was pretty annoying at some points but I liked this scene where they started poking fun at it.

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>What was the significance of the count to 86,400 in the prologue?
24 hours in a day x 60 minutes in an hour x 60 seconds in a minute is 86,400 seconds in a day. I don't remember the context at all though but that's where the number comes from
I really need to re-read subahibi.

>Higurashi
SoL and mystery/thriller, decent
>Tsukihime
somewhat decent atmosphere and decent final routes but overall very mediocre, shit soundtrack and not very interesting characters
Fate is better

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I guess I'll patch it with any sprites which are serviceable and dive in sooner or later.

>Tsukihime is basically a better Fate
>Tsukihime is basically a worse Fate
the duality of man

Maybe if the "creator" personality wasn't a fucking comically evil hitler-fag this story could have gone somewhere interesting but as it stood meh

What does Yea Forums think of my VN tier list?

Top tier:
Muv-Luv Alternative
Virtue's Last Reward
Subarashiki Hibi

High tier:
999
Sengoku Rance
Steins;Gate

Good tier:
Dies Irae
Ever 17
Little Busters!
Dangan Ronpa (1)

Okay tier:
G-senjou no Maou
Himawari no Shoujo
Grisaia
Root Double
Saya no Uta

Shit tier:
Monster Girl Quest
Steins;Gate 0
Katawa Shoujo
Fate/Stay Night

>hitler
DUDE HITLER LMAO HE'S BAD HE'S HITLER I CAN'T THINK FOR MYSELF HITLER HITLER LMAOOOOOO

Shuure.

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>2. Was the Web Bot Project bullshit too?
That one they say as much during the story, what it's actually doing is just looking up news and creating fake premonitions as soon as the news breaks so people think it actually made them before the event happened.
>6. What explains the Wakatsuki's presence in Yuki's class?
That one was also explained, it's noted at some point that Hasaki shows up at their school sometimes and is well liked by other students. But it doesn't explain the questions I raised about it.
I'm pretty sure there's an answer to 1 and 3 as well but I don't remember the story well enough at this point to tell you.

>FSN in shit
So you didn't read it and are only pretending, or only read Fate? Also what the fuck are you doing placing VLR that high? Where's YU-NO and Umineko? How can you, with a straight face, place G-Senjou lower than Ever shitenteen? Where's Kara no Shoujo or Kikokugai?

Pretty bad list desu.

>Top tier subahibi
This already tells a lot, but the rest
>VLR above 999
>Dies irae in anything but shit tier
>G-senjou in anything but shit tier
>Danganronpa 1 in good while 2 isn't anywhere on the list
>Grisaia not in shit
>No remember11 in sight
>Fate Stay Night in shit
paints the whole picture
Pure shit taste, only S;G, S;G0, Rance and Root Double are correct

Sengoku Rance isn't a visual novel
Aside from your bizarrely high consideration of VLR it's alright, read more VNs

07th-mod.com/ Just use this, use original (ps2 sprites) and old OST/sound effects when you get the choice on the install menu
>Saya no uta
>Not at least high

What does Yea Forums think of this?

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>Just use this
All right, thanks.

>Umineko not even on the list
Yeah, that explains a lot.

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not him but okay is a fair assessment. It has a few nice things about it, but ultimately it's still Urobutcher shit.

>Both the endings involve Tomosane getting away with all the deaths Takuji caused
Most unbelievable part of the story.

take your pills pol/fag/

I agree with all of your takes except G-senjou, whats wrong with it? It's definitely not high art or particularly intellectual, but I thought it was a fun read.

>muh urobutcher meme
How about an actual criticism besides "it's too dark."

It's all a dream created around takuji anyways, didn't you read end sky 2?

>How about an actual criticism
It's a transparent wish fulfillment fantasy with no intellectual or artistic merit
You're free to like it because the girl makes your peepee hard, whatever, but that's about all there is to it

>Urobutcher
>bad

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>G-senjou, whats wrong with it?
It's fucking shit with a retarded plot twist that makes no sense and blatantly contradicts the events of all the side routes while also dropping plot threads from the rest of the VN like the protag's blackouts. It has some fun elements but the shit story is too bad to respect it at all, especially when the same company's previous VN had a significantly better story with a far better twist that actually was foreshadowed.

No him, but the bullshit twist about who Maou really is lowered my opinion of G Sen quite a bit

Higurashi had a game? Holy fuck, I'm downloading that shit.

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But Yea Forums said it was non-canon metafiction.

Hasaki walked around the school, but she wasn't a constant presence in Yuki's class. I mean, it does sort of line up since the Wakatsukis and Hasaki are both really well-liked, but still something about it leaves me unsure. Regarding question 1, the game makes it explicit all the medicine Mamiya finds is really just drugs, but I recall he somehow "healed" Nishimura after he got stabbed and it seemed supernatural.

I wish I could answer your questions but I'd have to replay it. My one desire is like some elaborate blog post explaining all of the cryptic things left in SubaHibi that tie it all together. The hard part is that I can't fully explain why I think there's a lot of stuff to discover, but it definitely feels that way. Like you're supposed to think of the work as a whole to really understand it, and it takes time. The bizarre nature of DTRH1 kind of cements it for me.

>wish fulfillment
Ok, now I KNOW you're baiting. SnU has maybe the worst situation for a main character to be in in any work of fiction I've ever read. The fact that you think it's wish fulfillment just because he gets some pussy while he's living in hell unironically shows how much of a virgin you are. Pussy ain't that great.

Urobutcher is an apt summary of the usual things wrong. Characters being unreasonable (Fuminori's friends), having flat personalities/motivations (doctor), superfluous shock scenes (rape)... Butcher has a really hard time making you care about his characters, instead he makes paper cutouts filling in drama roles. Saya and Fuminori are the only half decent ones.

You didn't know higurashi was originally a VN that's vastly superior to the anime/manga in every way possible besides length?

>whats wrong with it?
The terrible characters that get written off the second their arc is over
The terrible side routes
The dumb cat and mouse games between Maou and the heroine that try too hard to be smart and end up being retarded
The terrible romance
The terrible kidnapping chapter
The terrible final chapter
The terrible and nonsensical twist
The terrible ending

The music was ok I guess

Just don't read the side routes and that problem doesn't occur.

The blackouts are nonsensical though yeah.

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I've read and fapped to plenty of VNs but nothing got me as aroused as the scene in Muv Luv Unlimited where Takeru gets bit by a snake and gets into a sleeping bag with a naked Mikoto. It was fucking insane, and I do not even get it considering Mikoto isn't even the hottest mabu rabu by a fucking longshot.

It's been years since I read that shit and I still remember it vividly.

>I recall he somehow "healed" Nishimura after he got stabbed and it seemed supernatural.
He didn't, Nishimura was just thinking he was healed based on the drug high and the placebo effect, that's why he got weaker over the next few hours and then died.

You're being hilariously disingenuous. Think turning out horrific doesn't mean someone's dick isn't rock hard the entire time, it's fucking fetish porn.

>Characters being unreasonable (Fuminori's friends)
What?

Jabberwocky was the only chapter I can say I enjoyed all the way through, the others ranged from either switching back and forth from interesting to boring or just not being interesting at all.

Try harder man.

I don't remember any such scene in Unlimited.

>”healed”
They were all on LSD by that point and easily manipulated
Also that guy died of blood loss like a half hour later, so Mamiya didn’t heal shit

Ahh, yeah, that makes sense. I suppose Mamiya really had no notable abilities at all then, other than charisma.

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The exam?

Obviously. Is this the power of speedreaders?

I'm trying to think of a time they actually did something smart. Instead they all walked to spooky location alone, like lemmings off a cliff.

Did it ever came out?
I was looking forward to it.

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He had no charisma either, he only had the threat of violence and later the drug induced euphoria

The CCSE on the island.

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Is the sequel to majikoi fully translated?

He definitely had charisma, just the "leader of a cult during an apocalypse" kind.

Not yet. MG picked it up for an english release and once it's out that's it and Overdrive is done with VNs.

Do you mean S or the A series?

Nobody really believes in him before his little yandere assassin starts bullying them into obeying

It was fairly convincing at certain points that something surreal genuinely was happening to him during Invention. The chapter sort of switches between reality and hallucination very often, so the details only become fully clear in retrospect when you really look back on it.

That he did have once the "curse" started killing people and he had his speech in the classroom.

S

Subahibi would have been better if they dropped the DID part and just focused on the drug-induced beta uprising somehow preventing the end of the world while Yuki tried to stop it

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I didn't, actually. I've heard about it but wasn't into vns at the time. Haven't watched animu in years and only got into vns recently.

the DID was genuinely the only interesting part of the whole thing

the S translation was done for years now

Thanks, I wasn't even aware of the english release. I hope it turns out good.

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The sealed nevus uses a Specialized Physics Bug (i.e. an Outer Magic Dark Summons Bug) to plant negative thoughts in the human race.
That is the true nature of the battle between the dictators and tyrants of the world (Hitler, Genghis Khan, Marie Antoinette, etc.) and us (the peasants, the revolutionaries, the proletariat).
Shiroyama Tsubasa was infected by the Specialized Physics Bug.
The nevus used him to degrade me (the phenomenon of inducing a low energy state with a negative energy blast).
And the reason is because the nevus will soon awaken. Bick Hazard is coming.

A great disaster will occur!

Yes but it's significantly worse than the original. The character interactions are still great but the actual story quality is absolute shit by comparison.

How did Takuji's fingerprints appear in Yuki's room? He never goes there during IMI, but they're there in RH2 when the phone is found.

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Based schizo poster. Go jump off a building instead of posting this stupid shit.

I was kind of confused because the translation status in the vndb page listed a lot of stuff as translated rather than just "100% translated". Thanks anons.

I think my favorite part of the whole thing was in Jabberwocky I when you learn the depressing truth of Tomosane's situation and how he's already mentally given up and withdrawn when the chapter starts. It makes me wish the game didn't end in such a picture perfect way because it undermines the bittersweet tone established earlier.

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>He hasn't finished the story yet
Better keep reading.
It was absolutely retarded that Yuki never checked her own fingerprints.
Come to think of it, it only just dawned on me that Yuki and Takuji were supposedly in the same classroom but at different desks. What was up with that? Was there just an unused desk in the room that they could project each other onto?

None of the philosophy stuff was actually interesting, and it didn't even feel like it really added anything to the game until the very end. It just felt like the author thought if he copy pasted some lines from the Wittgenstein Wikipedia page every 2 hours it'd make it seem like he actually had something meaningful to say in between forcing us to watch him jerk off to his 15 different terrible fetishes.

In Yuki's mind, Mamiya was a student in the next class over.

I actually read Subahibi last year and I barely remember anything about it, especially towards the end. Wtf

But he was in her class when the teacher had that argument with him that caused him to go on a rant and knock the teacher out. Although I also thought I remembered his class being different too.

There's a lot of take in.

The plot itself is rather straightforward while the presentation of the plot is convoluted and confusing which makes it easy to remember broad strokes of it but difficult to remember the details.

That was actually the day after Takashima committed suicide IIRC and all the students gathered in Yuki's class to discuss it before lessons started, which is why Mamiya was there. The whole reason he assaults the teacher is because he tries to start his lesson while Mamiya is still talking to everyone.

Wasn't Takuji there listening in on Yuki talking to another classmate about the message board? Or am I misremembering that?

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I'm not so sure now that I think of it. Takuji rarely went to class but I remember that one insane scene shortly after the suicide where he shows up to class and starts daydreaming about mass murder before Tomosane shows up to screw with him. That would be a good scene to check.

Still, I don't think they shared the same classroom. The whole body-swapping thing gets very complicated but, at least from the new Yuki's perspective, Takuji was in another classroom. However, this could have been another lie by her subconscious to prevent continuity errors.

I think he was. I think he said he'd sit in the back seats to observe the class.

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>fsn and mgq on shit tier
>999 better than ever17
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