tl;dr they wanted to release it on EGS and Steam as well, but Epic said no. And how dev said it was basically >nah, sorry, we're looking for exclusives only, and your KS says you're giving Steam keys So even their talk about "we care about devs" is bullshit
Also >rejects small time indie dev because the game is also on steam >completely fine with bloodlines and cyberpunk despite being released on 3 platforms simultaneously
>turn down game because they promised steam keys in ks >buys exclusivity to shenmue It's Tim's way of saying he doesn't want your shitty indie garbage.
Luke Thompson
Not that surprising. He probably could have ditched steam for EGS if we wanted. He chose not to. Smart dev.
Austin Lewis
>doesn't want shitty indie garbage >buys shitty boomer exclusive that no one, not even the boomers that grew up with 1 and 2 will buy anyway >the game isn't even going to finish the story or get anywhere close to doing so >user thinks this is a good comparison honestly im not surprised. anyone defending Epic games or using their store is a fucking retard
Use Steam, GoG, or pirate. It's really not fucking hard.
Hunter Diaz
>>And how dev said it was basically >>nah, sorry, we're looking for exclusives only, and your KS says you're giving Steam keys This is an indie retard trying to justify their rejection.
They're absolutely looking for exclusives, but if your game is low effort indie trash, it isn't getting on the store.
Aiden Gomez
Hi Tim, how's shopping cart going?
Josiah Carter
The girl from transformer make games?
Parker Harris
Tim doesn't need trash games, it's a store for quality content not trash, stop coping op.
I'm not defending Epic you fucking autist, and it's a very valid comparison to say a game promising Steam keys got bought by a company saying they don't want games promising Steam keys.
Kayden Allen
>Literally who indie shit won't be shitting up the Epic Game store.
Literally a hack indie dev virtue signalling for attention.
Christ you cunts are dense.
Thomas Gutierrez
>I can't filter tags and adult material because I'm a dumb fuck, so it's the store's fault for letting game developers sell their games on the store
James Parker
>this thread again Steamdrones are really that desperate
Michael Thomas
Why are zoomers like yourself so upset about competition? I won't be using EGS because I'm not a fucking retard who installs DRM on his rig, but it's just absolutely insane to me that Steam zoomies are crying this hard about the big bad Epic "stealing" their games.
Meanwhile companies like Facebook have been locking games behind peripheral purchases for years, and Nvidia have been purposely including shit like garbage tessellation in games to cripple AMD hardware.
Jackson Cox
>that cope and seeth Wowzies
Also haven't bought any game since 2001
Samuel Gray
>Getting all that from a shopping cart taunt ABSOLUTELY BUTTBLASTED
Aaron Wright
Hey fat fuck, when are you going to solve the TF2 unusual hat crisis?
This is not about avoiding objectionable material but removing it from the platform. It's the age old counter-argument to "don't like it, don't buy it". Voting with your wallet doesn't work when you want to change something. Creating public outrage is way better at that. Who cares about a million customers not buying something? A thousand angry tweets which get the attention of "news" sites and other influencers force companies to change. It's the tyranny of the minority and it works.
You don't need to remove it from the platform, why would you need to do that? You can filter the shit you don't like out, there are still people who buy the shit you don't like.
Justin Fisher
You never had a Farmville aunt?
Colton Myers
He does, but only if he can sell it as an exclusive and it isn't available on Steam at launch. Shenmue got a publisher long after the kickstarter ended, Epic negotiated with Deep Silver for the exclusivity deal.
Alexander Rogers
No shit Epic Games says you can't release on Steam if you take their 'don't release it on steam' deal money.
Andrew Jackson
>why would you need to do that? Read my post again. If you still don't get it, i can't help you.
Blake Foster
Did someone scoop your brain out of your ear or something? Why do you need to block content on a platform at all? Who do you think you are that decides what content is good and what's not?
He's not saying you need to or that it should be done. Everything he said is technically accurate.
Blake Rodriguez
I understand the part about voting with your wallet, I agree with that, it doesn't work, but why do you need to remove those games from the platform?
Jace Brooks
>they do it so it's ok if we do it
Evan Ross
Steam pays for exclusivity?
Sebastian Perez
Valve doesn't buy out games for exclusivity.
Thomas Butler
Sure, as soon as you explain the advantages for people using the epic store over the steam store that isn't just "exclusives" or "STEAM BAD"
Carter Hughes
Funny story, that. Steam got a lot of crap for the kind of shit allowed on its platform, and inconsistencies such as porn games without porn being banned but VNs with sex scenes being allowed, so they just went 'fuck it, everything's allowed!' and washed their hands off it entirely
Hunter Sanchez
>Steam Exclusive name 5 that aren't developed by Valve themselves
Jacob Brooks
>shenmue caused enough of a shitstorm that epic is avoiding kickstarters promising steam keys there might actually be a fraud case if legal is holding sweeney back
Mason Cox
>Tim making sure the trash stays on steam He does what gaben doesn't.
Brody Foster
all of these seething valvetards ready to defend daddy gaben. cope harder
Aiden Torres
Artificial exclusivity is bad. I hate consoles for it and I hate this shit for it. Epic doesn't even offer anything different or better than steam, they just wanted a bigger piece of the pie and now I, the consumer, have to install multiple programs for multiple separate games with no real advantage between them. I can understand people going to gog, for example, because they're DRM free. What benefit is there to epic over steam? Ignoring a specific game and instead focusing on any game.
Sure you aren't, Chang. Repeat it often enough and you might even believe it yourself.
Jose Mitchell
free tibet, winnie the pooh
Caleb Johnson
Because doesn't like them being there? Lets say your neighbors lawn is right next to yours. It looks terrible. Your neighbors house hasn't seen any maintenance for 20 years. The windows are cracked and the paint is spotty. It doesn't really affect you but it's an eye sore. It offends your sensibilities. Same thing with people bitching about commercials, movies, music - entertainment in general. They are not the target audience, they have no interest in the product, but the existence alone offends them, so they bitch about it loud and proud. The company ignores them at first, but then they get louder and the company changes the thing.
Blake Torres
Name 5 Steam exclusives. I bet you can't even do that.
Hunter Cruz
>the nips fucked the chinks >again
Jason Green
You can filter things you don't like out. Your neighbors house can't be filtered out, you will always see them.
Levi Cooper
>I posted an MS paint drawing making fun of someone, so you are nitpicking and biased, I win, bye bye.
Andrew Russell
Yep but even if you filter stuff, you will hear about it eventually.
Henry Ramirez
>I mass replied to everyone else who BTFO me and called them valvetards, so you are nitpicking and biased, I win, bye bye.
Ryan Allen
Name 5 Steam exclusives, chang
Jose Green
Oculus, but I wouldn't expect zoomers to play games.
Hunter Martin
Yeah, and even if you remove stuff from Steam, the game will be released somewhere else and you will hear about it eventually. That's the internet for you, user.
Aiden Turner
Where is the timeline where everyone actually realized that Bam was a whiny bitch who wasn't even that good of a skater and the least likeable on Jackass?
Julian James
>Needing to remove shit because trannies wont stop bitching Steam tried that and it didnt work, which is why they gave up on curation in the first place
Luis Price
>A thousand angry tweets which get the attention of "news" sites and other influencers force companies to change. >didn't work for Bethesda >didn't work for EA >didn't work for Dice >didn't work for Twitch >didn't work for EGS >he still thinks companies give a shit about social media outrage
Michael Bennett
>using e-celeb jokes >>
Justin Sanchez
VR is a zoomer fad Also every Oculus game is playable on Rift.
Kayden Barnes
>Females thinking farmville and mobile is videogames
Oh look, its this retard again, posting exclusives valve never paid for >But you can't get them elsewhere because the publisher didnt release it elsewhere and that's steam's fault even though epic is pushing for forced exclusives steam bad epic good monopoly WAAAAAAAAAH
Levi Turner
i could see them not even wanting to do that simply because the dev could then release actual numbers of how much their game sold on the epic launcher vs steam, and it would be a huge kick in the nuts to show that it sold like shit on epic, but not on steam
No, Valve gave up on curation because the flood of indies couldn't be handled without hiring literally anyone with a computer in bangladesh. Lets say a curator can look at and filter 20 games per 8 hour day(reading the pitch, basic quality control, objectionable material), that means the game, that might not make any money at all, has already cost them like 5 bucks. Multiply that 10.000. Way cheaper to license and tune an algorithm that does it for you and pay 10 devs to maintain and refine it.
Didn't they write Phoenix Point a check to get their game off Steam? Seems like a double standard.
Jacob Moore
Epic buys copies of the game to inflate sales though, and to incentivize people to give them exclusivity
Xavier Jones
There is a difference between piece of entertainment that offends you being on a mom & pop store in the middle of nowhere and being sold on the biggest store on the internet.
Luke Cook
does not actually work. im literally in the mainland right now on a vpn, and that shit never knocked me offline. i wish you niggers would be less computer illiterate .
Jack Walker
>Tim only buys the the best so we can get the best for free what a good lad Tim is.
>Since when you need to pay to make something exclusive Since 2 weeks before exodus released when EGS reared its head for the first time hoping to become relevant Speaking of, how many units did exodus sell again?
The biggest store on the internet is the biggest store because you can buy whatever you like in it, even if what you like is anime porn with giant breast women. If you don't like a type of game, add it to your tag filters. If you don't like porn, block adult content.
Cooper Cruz
Tim Tam straight up admits to having to pay for exclusivity though.
Ian Davis
>every Oculus game is playable on Rift. Yes, the hardware blocker they were developed for is what you can play them on. You're very smart.
Imagine if you bought a new game, only to realise it wouldn't run on your PC because you don't have an ASUS monitor. That's Oculus.
David Wood
This dev seems salty but is also not wanting to piss off Epic by saying its "a stratagy" and how they dont mind, slime cunts.
Yeah, he did. Because of that games like borderlands 3 won't be exclusive to one platform in the future. People will have more choice after exclusive period, unlike before.
On top of that delicious steamdrones tears, tim is based as fuck
The Devs of samurai showdown confirmed Epic proposed them a significant sum of money (not talking about revenue share, just straight up cash) for exclusivity
Ayden Gray
But a store is always also a platform and the constantly outraged don't like it having that. It can exist, but only under the counter and in backrooms of seedy stores. You know like fetish porn in the 80s and 90s. Gotta know a dude who knows a dude. Why do you think nobody is railing against scat? It's not in the focus of mainstream. But if Walmart started selling Turd Lovers 13 - Granny Edition all the moralistic busy bodies would start a social media campaign to get it removed.
Zachary Adams
There are no Epic third party exclusives that Epic didn't pay to make exclusive.
Epic Games is doing its absolute best to ensure that users on its platform cannot organise together and fight back against a developer that tries some shady scam shit. It wouldn't surprise me that they're now pulling shady scam shit themselves.
Andrew Phillips
Steam is dying.
Landon Gonzalez
PC gaming is dying
Juan Wright
>games won't be exclusive to one platform in the future >Cancels gog releases for epic exclusives >Buys ubisoft games as exclusives even though those games are also sold on uplay Chinks are smoothbrains
Jordan Adams
Nah, they just don't want more baggage with buying exclusivity deals. They learned from the shenmue fuckup. Also ofc the will be fine with big selling titles, they don't put them on there as exclusives.
Josiah Garcia
Epic's stance has long been that they're looking for exclusives in the short term, and they'll open the store to a wider curated range of games in 2020.
Ethan Adams
There isn't a single game not published by Epic on EGS that isn't exclusive or there without publisher/devs being paid bribe money.
Grayson Howard
Are you really accusing the VTMB2 developers of being "bribed" to put their game on the Epic Store?
Brody Moore
they probably don't want to reduce discoverability, since reduce marketing costs is a carrot for attracting indieshit, so they will spearfish titles
Cooper Gutierrez
Its cheap.
That is pretty much what i want from a store. If i can get a game cheaper at store A than store B then guess where the fuck ill be going. That is especially true if store A is giving me free shit.
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting we are talking about stores, and not some sort of clans you have to pledge your allegiance too, and bring them monthly sacrifices.
Literally no case, since the steam keys will still be provided at a later date, they got around it by making it timed exclusive. And the caveat was that there was never any mentions that you have to get the key on release.
Adrian Ross
Discord was gone before epic even started their thing so. It shows that exclusive are really important.
Apart from that, pretty sure dauntless is not paid. Games from THQ are most likely not paid as well as their roll with epic games store instead of making their own.
Levi Wright
Considering every other game on there was bribed, yes. Why would VTMB2 be an exception to the rule?
Jace Jackson
VTMB2 is not an exclusive, you inbred Also if games can release on both steam and egs no problem, why did OP game get rejected?
Gavin Nguyen
This is how you shill your trash. Simply by taking "data" and create a huge issue over it
Benjamin Nguyen
It's only "cheap" with games that you can't buy anywhere else, and games that are years old now. If EGS wasn't doing exclusivity and was selling games available on steam for less than steam was you might have had a point.
Adam Thomas
>Chinese company bullying providers into stopping collaborating with the only roadblock on their monopoly Dumb baizuos always lose, for they can't wrap their brain about people not playing the same game than them - nor with the same rules.
Adrian Baker
>Its cheap >Except everywhere else in the world because customers need to foot the extra fees >Free shit on a platform where literally every game is available for free Wow, double digit IQ, thats dumb, even for you
Dylan Diaz
They just don't want shit indie games on their store.
>open store >people want to sell stuff from your store >don't bother to sell it anywhere else >your store hasn't tried to get them to only sell it with you and you receive no benefit from it >WAAAAAAAAH THIS IS THE STORES FAULT SOMEHOW BECAUSE I NEED BAD EXCUSES TO DEFEND MY SHILL PAYCHEQUE eat my asshole
Connor Moore
>Discord was gone What? They still sell games and still have a 90/10 split. The split doesn't matter at all, having a userbase doesn't even matter either when you have a company straight up bribing publishers and devs to make games exclusive after production.
Dauntless and Metro Exodus were absolutely paid.
Jaxon Morris
The one we are all living in tbqh
Cameron Rogers
While I agree it's nice of Tim to give us free* games, Shenmue 3 is far from the best. I'd think SkateBIRD would be the better game desu.
Julian Ross
Nobody gives a shit. Stop making these threads, you platform warring faggot.
Justin Butler
It get rejected because it's fucking trash. And it belong to steam a.k.a trash can of pc gaming
Dylan Lewis
see
Hunter Scott
Since always because you're talking about the games industry, where the standard since its inception has been that if you don't pay to keep something exclusive, they will port it and sell it everywhere because it's financially more beneficial to have more available audience you retard.
Wyatt Harris
Fuck off console nigger.
Ian Gray
It got rejected because they promised steam keys at launch and every other indie game on EGS is trash.
Matthew Turner
>glassbottom I hate chinks as much as anyone but Tim is in the right here.
Hunter Collins
If Steam has so many exclusives, why did you list console ports? Surely you could've picked examples that are actually exclusives?
Isaac Murphy
>Dauntless and Metro Exodus were absolutely paid. Source, oh right you don't have source faggot.
>What? They still sell games and still have a 90/10 split. The split doesn't matter at all, having a userbase doesn't even matter either when you have a company straight up bribing publishers and devs to make games exclusive after production.
They don't even have a "store" page in their discord app. It's a dead project you moron.
Blake Cook
Dauntless is fucking free to play and needs crossplay features and thq is pretty much satisfied with egs according to numbers, based steamtard.
Eli Collins
I'm going with EGS for my purchases SOLELY to piss off Steamcucks who have been slobbering on Gaben's chode for decades now and there is LITERALLY nothing you can do about it. Stay mad, stay bad, and most importantly, get fucked.
Steam is a trash can of pc gaming, it's a known fact. The fuck does it have to do with consoles?
Elijah White
>shit game >wont add any value to store >on top of that its on steam too Yeah you are right OP, epic should also flood its store with low effort indie trash like steam.
Eli Evans
>my opinion is a known fact Fuck off console nigger.
Colton Martin
Or the Shenmue debacle made them rethink their strategy on this because they had to refund all the PC buyers that wanted Steam. But no, its clearly maliciousness and not the obvious monetary concern.
Noah Howard
So, no source as always. Steamdrones live in their own reality
>Source, oh right you don't have source faggot. You have literally zero explanation for why Borderlands and Shenmue are paid but other games are somehow not. You're an absoulte delusional faggot if you think Metro wasn't paid for
>They don't even have a "store" page in their discord app. It's a dead project you moron.
They merged their store with their Nitro sub and you can still buy games directly from the game's official discord. It's not dead you fucking moron.
Daniel Baker
Free to play and crossplay mean absolute fuckall, Epic still gets a cut from microtransactions. > thq is pretty much satisfied with egs Because they got paid upfront you fucking worthless bugman.
Robert Rodriguez
Retards like you are the reason mute, ignore and report never works leading into devs adding filters and banning over small shit. Use your fucking brain for once.
>reeee why are publisher supporting epic store!!! >they should be ok with competing low effort sex games!!!!! -mind of a steamnigger
Asher Flores
You mean the same exclusivity deal with Shenmue that caused them to flat out refund people who wanted Steam keys due to no fucking one wanting to play with Epic's shit launcher? Tim's so stupid that now he's trying to force Kickstarters to not include steam keys in a desperate attempt for exclusivity
>>wont add any value to store Same goes for 90% of indie games on EGS.
Easton Morales
>You have literally zero explanation for why Borderlands and Shenmue are paid but other games are somehow not. You're an absoulte delusional faggot if you think Metro wasn't paid for
Okay, source for the borderlands 3 is paid claim. As i stated before, games from THQ are not paid. They work together with epic to make that store work, they could do that or create their own store. Every big publisher is running away from steam.
>They merged their store with their Nitro sub and you can still buy games directly from the game's official discord. It's not dead you fucking moron.
I checked it for you, it's sub only. So their store is dead.
Caleb Morris
Epic isn't going to hire you.
William Watson
>2 people cant have the same name
have sex
Brayden Bennett
Sorry for posting your twitter account btw
Christopher Perez
>Okay, source for the borderlands 3 is paid claim.
their demo looks like it has enough effort put in to not call the game an asset flip or trash.basically it's already above the VN and trash that releases daily on steam in the hundreds
why would any (aiming to be big) shop not want to carry any game that is above that bar? unbelievable.
Samuel Martin
They don't have to. Steamdrones tears are more than enough for me
Obviously. The quality of his shilling is garbage, even chinks want nothing to do with him
Ryan James
>Epic doesn't pay for exclusivity What is Phoenix Point? What is Samurai Showdown?
And if they didn't get paid for exclusivity then all these publishers are dumber than I thought. Why the fuck wouldn't you put your games on all storefronts then?
>borderlands 3 totally wasn't paid for >games from THQ are not paid they work with epic to make epic's store work >Every big publisher is running away from steam to epic >I checked it for you, it's sub only. So their store is dead.
Do you ever get tired of lying out of your ass and shitting out of your mouth?
"Pretending" to be retarded isn't doing you any favors. You're just actually retarded and your parents regret not aborting when they had the chance.
Reminder to ignore Epic Shills and strawposters, only respectable platforms atm are GOG and STEAM.
Liam Cook
Because epic offers better cut. After a few months it will be available in other places as well. Steam users enjoy carcass like nothing else
Colton Lopez
Na I'm gonna follow your example and be a retard as well by ignoring the replies.
Logan Sanders
>GOG is collateral damage because of Epic's dumbfuckery as games that were supposed to come out there as well get fucked
Matthew Gray
Thanks based pedophile piracy reviver.
Xavier Ortiz
make it cheaper on epic then
Dylan Harris
>rejects literally who indie dev >completely fine with huge games hm
Isaiah Murphy
Why didn't they go to Discord then? 90/10 is better from what I hear. In fact, why does Ubisoft even care about the EGS if they already have their own store?
lmao just keep going shill
Wyatt Morris
Other platforms offer an even better cut than Epic or Valve yet nobody is bringing their games to those platforms let alone making them exclusive. Epic is the only one that offers upfront payment, and it's a known fact. Epic users are in denial because they are mental carcasses.
Logan Long
>it's not dead, you just need to enter subnautica server channel to buy subnautica. They are totaly not abandoning this. You just need to google a bit and you can find it no problem!
Gavin Hernandez
Tencent owns shares in both Epic and Ubisoft, which would explain why Ubisoft are sticking with Epic. Then again, last I checked Tencent owns shares in Discord too, so why they don't release their shit there as well, I have no idea.
Easton Gomez
>They merged their store with their Nitro sub and you can still buy games directly from the game's official discord. It's not dead you fucking moron. >I checked it for you, it's sub only. So their store is dead. >It's literally not sub only >THAT DOESN'T COUNT THEY ABANDONED SELLING GAMES
Kill yourself worthless maggot.
Michael Baker
>why does Ubisoft even care about the EGS if they already have their own store?
Because ubisoft is a part of gaming industry which steam is slowly killing. the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing
Oliver Watson
sounds like a lie, why would they give them steam exclusivity for free
Josiah Gray
>games from THQ are not paid, their only option is to sell on Epic's store or make their own store
>it's just pure coincidence that they pulled preorders from the other store, they weren't paid to do this trust me it's the cut
>just go to a store that has no userbase for 2% better share instead of a store that has millions of fortnite kids, lol I knew steamdrones are stupid, but this is too much.
Sebastian Brooks
Genuine question, not complaining. Why chink games are still being released on Steam?
>discord totally has no userbase and 90% is worse than 88% and millions of fortnite kids are totally going to buy games instead of just playing fortnite for free I knew epicbugs are stupid, but this is too much.
Because china does not support epic. Hell, tencent does not support epic hence why discord and tencent gaming platform exsist. Steam is allowed to work in china as well.
Epic=china is a false narrative no matter how you look at it if you're not a moron
Hudson Russell
yes let's sell games on the platform addled by no-job kids who mainline a free to play game
Grayson Parker
>Skatebird
Based Tim for not letting such trash on the Epic Store. He doesn't want it to become a garbage pile like Steam.
This shit is so stupid I can't believe it ain't the chinks forcing their hand. Tim going on public rants kinda goes against this though so maybe he is that stupid
Easton Brooks
>Unreal engine, what is this? hentai game for incels because if yes i want to play it. Hope it's on steam so when i buy it will rise my steam level
Connor Bell
>implying what discord userbase is bigger than fortnite's Yikes. >fortnite kids are totally going to buy games instead of just playing fortnite for free Why not? Fortnite sells $20 skins and they buy them, thats why Fortnite made 3 billion last year, dummy.
Levi White
>All those devs making games on unreal engine >Still dont move to epic unless paid big money in exclusivity bucks Kek
Because they use their skins in Fortnite you fucking retard, the game they actually care about. Fortnite kids don't give a fuck about spending money on games that aren't fortnite.
Asher Foster
imagine not knowing what a filter is in 2019 kill yourself
Jordan Fisher
This game belong to steam, because it's fucking trash so. Good for us, epic gamers
>Fortnite kids don't give a fuck about spending money on games that aren't fortnite. >World War Z has sold nearly 700,000 copies on Epic Games Store >Satisfactory has sold 507,374 copies on the Epic Games Store. Reality is different, steamdrone. Get over it.
>WWZ >Sold 250k on opening week, EGS in full party mode >A month later, only 700k sold announcement, no fanfare, nothing >Shitisfactory >500k units sold >Except no bragging, no fanfare by epic >Dev releases numbers sweeney just goes 'yeah ok' >All this while indies like RoR2 and DMC5 hit millions in the first week Kek epicshill. Reality truly is different
Checks out that majority of epic shills are just assblasted console warriors. Same reason why they salivate over paid online coming to PC.
Adrian Allen
>100 million fortnite kiddies on PC alone >Can't sell 1% of that GUYS???
Jose Ross
I wonder what their first game that sells 1M will be? I guess BL3?
You'd think all their other exclusives would have reached a million by now. I guess Dauntless is a thing but it's f2p so it doesn't really count.
Aaron Hughes
These two games would be in the 0,01% of best steam games easy so
Wyatt Baker
Fuck Steam Fuck EGS Fuck GOG Fuck Uplay Fuck Origin Fuck Windows Game Store And also fuck any other launcher that I forgot to mention. Game launchers are the biggest cancer of the gaming industry, and they're the soucre of all other evils, like microtransactions and retarded amount of shitty DLC's.
>BL3 Which is exclusive for only 6 months Epicshills are dreading the day their beloved exclusives come out on steam and cross egs sales numbers within a week or two
Easton Rivera
>Store that allows any game to be sold on it >Biggest threat to free pc market Let it go, Xiao
Michael Thomas
keep saying it
Brayden Brooks
Why would you post steamdrone as a respond? Go back to feggit
Asher Morris
To be fair, games like Metro will sell like shit. Niche, no good will, hype all gone, the pr disaster. They shot themselves in the foot.
Jonathan Bailey
Not everyone deserve to be saved by epic. Too bad they were so late, they could save so many studios that steam killed.
>Epic Store >Has to buy hundreds of thousands of copies to get exclusivity deals >None of their fucking games sell over 1M despite being pushed as HUGE EXCLUSIVES >Steam >Has games constantly coming in, and rarely go to other launchers due to their retarded rulesets >Fucking Risk of Rain 2 manages to sell over a million copies with no fucking advertising Tell me, are you gonna still be routing for Epic when the store gets abandoned like fucking Paragon and UT4?
The median (not average, btw) game on Steam is old as hell. Steam has something like 30,000+ individual games available for sale, stretching back 15 years or so. In a given month, if 500 games release, those new games represent 1.7% of the total games available for purchase.
Who gives a fuck what the “median” selling game was in that month. It’s probably a game that hasn’t generated significant revenue in 7 years.
This dude made up those numbers and his reasoning is that he's been making up numbers for a long time so you should trust his made up numbers, literally zero sources for anything.
Tyler Long
I read that it wasn't Devolver's idea to make Observation exclusive, it was the dev's. Apparently Devolver even asked Valve if they were willing to talk the devs out of it.
>Apparently Devolver even asked Valve if they were willing to talk the devs out of it. Wait really?
Also the Observation dev is part of that "group" of indie devs that have a hateboner for steam. Remember that one Steam Labs shit with the interactive recommender? The one people nearly universally loved? He was hated it.
Henry Collins
delete this
Easton Gutierrez
I don’t know if I believe this, but if it’s true, it’s still pretty cool of Devolver to allow the dev to do what they want when it would have been trivial for them as a publisher to say “fuck off, we decide where it releases”.
Tyler White
And if they don't remove it, then what are they going to do? Stop using Walmart? Any real noticeable amount of them? Yeah right
Pic related. Actual boycotts are just too much bother for most people.
gog's launcher is completely optional though; you can still buy, download, install, and run games without ever using it.
Lincoln Wood
>CEO jim, you can fuck as many tranny hookers as you want, just make sure it doesn't get out, reflects bad on all of us
You have no idea how important the public image of a company is. Every large corporation is working with/for so many other large corporations that nobody wants to be associated with a black sheep, for ANY reason.
Isaiah Perry
Well, judging by their discord, Devolver are clueless fucks when it comes to the whole situation.
>@Simon_Verhoeven Why publish Observation as an Epic exclusive for a year whilst lambasting anti consumer practices the past couple of years?
>A: It made sense for the benefit of the developer. Not reeeeeally clear how publishing to one platform or another can be associated with "anti-consumer practices" but I am sorry that you're finding this so deeply upsetting.
Joseph Parker
Pirates always win Well except for anno 1800 Crack when
Kevin Cruz
Geez, you’d think a company that’s so fucking meme-happy and eager to look hip would not be blind to the huge Epic backlash that keeps happening.
Mason Ward
>he doesn't want your shitty indie garbage. ohnononono
And yet Valve is doing completely fine. They decided they want to be a big open marketplace that just about anyone can come in and sell just about anything and it's worked for them, because there's a real demand for such a marketplace, not only a demand from customers but also from the devs themselves.
That's what a lot of people who rag on about how Valve needs to chop all the garbage don't seem to get, there'll always be a DEMAND for low-barrier places like Steam and as we can see filling that has been real good for them.
Brandon Sanchez
>every epic thread >the exact same posts in every single one Tim, your career is on the line here and they're ready to drop the ball on you. You should get better shills that will actually do the job properly and spam the entire board with threads bashing on steam and praising epic. Fucking hell you shills cant even do your job properly
Andrew Rodriguez
>Valve is doing fine
Bethesda/EA/Ubisoft/thq and more to come are bailing out of steam. Valve is fucked hard as of right now, even withouth epic they are constantly loosing influence because they choose not to hire 10 additional people for curration.
Christopher Price
Nobody wants curation. Everyone who bitches about their game being buried in a flood of shit is someone who is only on Steam BECAUSE there are no barriers.
Grayson Baker
Less than *wheezes* LESS THAN 50 K ON PC
Carson Martin
Bethesda came crawling back to Steam you fuck boy. THQ is releasing it's nostalgiashit on Steam as well. Deep Silver does not represent THQ Nordic in its entirety mate. Bamco and Capcom are still big on Steam. So is SNK. Microsoft is pretty much ready to jerk Steam's cock off. CDPR has Cyberpunk on all platforms. Sekiro sold like hotcakes which will only prompt From to release even more games on Steam.
And wow I sure am sad that EA is on Origin.
Josiah Lewis
>released on 3 platforms Windows is one platform. Do not fall for this stupid bullshit to console-ize PC.
Hunter Peterson
>mentions Epic's free games >keeps mentioning that features aren't needed just go install the EGS already >even mentions Artifact for no reason whatsoever
God it really is like looking at a mirror. Even the nips have their Epic trolls.
Asher Cruz
They're all reading from the same script.
Owen Diaz
>curation user are you aware that valve used to have curation before the very media that's trying to prop up the epic games store right now, bitched about it forcing valve to remove it?
Asher Wilson
No. They pre-purchase copies based on how much they expect it to sell.
Even a conservative estimate of 10% of KS backers seeking refunds for Shenmue, could be as much as half a million dollars they need to fork out. Then there's the whole "PC physical copy is now EGS launcher on a disc", which probably means anyone who backed that tier is just going to get a refund; even if they don't care about EGS, they can get a refund and buy the deluxe edition or whatever; which they still haven't confirmed whether the KS backers are getting.
Gabriel Ross
What the fuck are you talking about, not only steam did that out of thin air with no one bitching. Medias are not trying to prop up epic either
Noah Ross
Games media has been actively against steam for a while after they allowed icky-sticky no-no games onto their store.
Lincoln Ramirez
All this and more. Egs cuks are truly blind Valve is the facebook of games stores online Also tienanmen Square
Jose Perez
Why the fuck would he sell some literally who bullshit on his store? Skatebird looks like fucking ass and it would be embarrassing to have it alongside the other games on there.
I dunno, looks like it would not be out of place next to timeless Epic exclusives like Dangerous Driving, Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek and Rollercoaster Tycoon Adventures.
Jace Moore
At least some people have HEARD of those bad video games. Nobody gives a fuck about Skatebird, and the only reason people are latching onto it is they said they had a game they wanted to sell for Epic exclusivity and Epic didn't want to give them money for a bad game that wouldn't pull people onto their platform.
Bentley King
dev of Skatebird is based
John Evans
>Go on lad! This one's on me I lose it every time. This whole Steam vs Epic shit is so contrived
Jaxson Garcia
Because this twitter cap is misconstrued, it's likely that it's because they said they'd refuse to not do Steam
Ian Long
I was looking forward to SkateBIRD until they released the demo and it played as poorly as the trailer from last year looked. Immediately took it off my wishlist after that. That bear game that user keeps shilling in THPS threads looks more promising.
Nathaniel Morgan
The store is literally abandoned. Where is the fucking shopping cart.
Joseph Rivera
The median is dragged down by an insane number of shit games and old games no one buys. Steam should massacre the indies that don't sell to improve the metrics
Jason Anderson
>FO76 flopped hard >Anthem flopped hard >BFV flopped hard >EGS is a dumpster fire that no one wants any part of These companies are getting hit in the wallet on these issues. Outrage leads to lost sales. If they dont change, they're just going to keep hemorrhaging money
Elijah King
Your genophobia doesn't make eroticism trash incel.
Chase Baker
user, that doesn't contradict what he said Shenmue isn't giving out steam keys, until the exclusive period ends
Wyatt Ramirez
This bait is stale you mong
Levi Jones
Why is Megan Fox suddenly talking about gaming
Jaxon Scott
You made the same image last year before every relevant game in it was cracked within months. Are you repeating making a fool of yourself yet again?
Nathaniel Diaz
>>Buys ubisoft games as exclusives even though those games are also sold on uplay
That's the best part and I don't even like Ubisoft.
>Pay Ubisoft to keep Division 2 off steam >Ubisoft boasts that UPlay sales skyrocketed over Division 1 >Pay them again for Watch Dogs 3.
Jackson Diaz
>tl;dr they wanted to release it on EGS and Steam as well, but Epic said no. >And how dev said it was basically >>nah, sorry, we're looking for exclusives only, and your KS says you're giving Steam keys >So even their talk about "we care about devs" is bullshit
Megatard. Did you compeltely miss the backlash they got over this last time? How Epic had to pay for people's refunds despite it not being bought on the EGS?
Fucking use your brain for once in your mongoloid life.
>Bethesda came crawling back to Steam you fuck boy.
To be fair, they are blantly prepping to leave again. They lock features behind Bethesda accounts for everything released after they came running back including the fucking console DOOM ports. So Starfield will be exclusive and Bethesda will just tell people to use their existing Bethesda accounts to buy it.
Adam Martin
no, it's more like they learned from the blowback and don't want any more ire
Luke Butler
>they learned lmao
Kayden Green
I know you can't comprehend billions of dollars since you're a neet shut-in, but believe me, they learned
Ethan Walker
Projecting hard, aren't we?
Besides, if they actually learned, they would know they gain nothing from exclusives.
Jace Adams
>they would know they gain nothing from exclusives. Market share
>Projecting hard, aren't we? No, your very post proves that you have no clue what you are talking about. The largest dollar bill you've ever handled is probably a $10 bill
Andrew Campbell
>market share Built off investments far exceeding revenue. They are paying for exclusive rights and free games every week without getting any returns. Investing into EGS would be like burning your money.
>you have no clue what you are talking about Shit like this is economy 101. Meanwhile, you haven't even seen a college from the inside.
>The largest dollar bill you've ever handled is probably a $10 bill You should open a movie theater.
Chase Bailey
>They are paying for exclusive rights and free games every week without getting any returns.
>what is a loss leader
>Shit like this is economy 101. Meanwhile, you haven't even seen a college from the inside. >You should open a movie theater. It's funny that you started projecting the moment you used the word 'projection' poorfag
Colton Watson
>what is a loss leader Certainly not EGS since they have nothing else to offer to make customers stick around. Most people would prefer to wait until the Steam version comes around or flat-out pirate.
EGS is not a loss leader, they are leading in losses.
Daniel Robinson
>Most people would prefer If you live in a bubble, stop talking about general stats.
Aaron Nelson
Prove me wrong, show me those numbers.
Oh wait, you can't.
Ayden Perry
If they don’t care about angry tweets then why are titties and attractive girls getting censored worldwide?
Nolan Martin
Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Steam fans constantly cry about epic but I never see epic fans starting bait threads
David Nelson
>I never see epic fans Gee, I wonder why...
Lucas Jenkins
The timed exclusive strategy didn't work for Xbox 360 and it won't work epic, people will just wait those games out.
Alexander Nelson
Makes sense to me.
>we want exclusive >no we wanna do steam too >okay bye
Adrian Stewart
So it should be the other way around then. Also if there’s no epic fans then why do they live in steam fans heads rent free 24/7? Why not just let the supposedly nonexistent fan base fade away?
Chase Moore
It is not competition. EGS is using force of capital to prevent products from being available anywhere except its own storefront. It is literally buying its way out of capitalism.
Jeremiah Bennett
I guess when Walmart hires someone to make an in-store brand of something, and then sells those products exclusively in their stores, that means walmart is "buying its way out of capitalism"?
If the concept of exclusivity didn't work, we wouldn't fucking have consoles.
Asher Harris
There are a few autist epic shitposters in every epic thread. You can tell by the same images and lines that constantly get reposted
Colton Martinez
Not the same thing. Imagine if Target offered an upcoming product in ads and let you pay for it ahead of time, only for Walmart to THEN buy it out as an in-store brand and refuse to honor the purchases of anyone who'd bought it from Target.
Carter Lewis
People accept when companies make something they made themselves or financed from the beginning exclusive because otherwise it would never be made. They take issue when something is already made then bought at the last moment as an exclusive.
Lincoln Nguyen
I agree on the first point, but that's not really an EGS issue. It's a problem with the developers and publishers who accept those deals, and usually they're kickstarter based shit anyway, so I really have no respect for people who are dumb enough to "invest" in video games.
By all means, be upset at scummy devs who take these deals for a last minute cash injection. But it's weird to shoot the messenger.
Joshua Jackson
Why should Epic be exempt at all for the blame? Both the devs (or publishers in many cases) and Epic are complicit.