All they had to do was make an edgy Kingdom Hearts in crystal tools, could have had the exact same KH gameplay except with character switching and release at the end of 7th gen
>instead we got XV after 10 years of fucking around
>KH3 had to restart development because of staff transfers
>FF7R had to be outsourced and wont even be finished on release
Has there ever been a fuck up as big as Versus XIII
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I blame the fuck up just as much on Nomura as Tabata. The problem was that Tabata should never have tried to pass off FFXV as Versus.
>Tabata should never have tried to pass off FFXV as Versus.
He didnt have a choice, Squeenix were annoyed by VXIII's stupidly long developmental hell and wanted to get the game out one way or another. That and it was too costly to just abandon the project and start all over.
>KH3 had to restart development because of staff transfers
Source?
Nothing that you said is correct.
Versus barely had any staff on it for the decade or so it was in "development hell", they were all working to save XIII and then XIV.
If he didn't have a choice, then he shouldn't have made a completely different game in the end.
The biggest problem i had with XV was all the additional media released like that movie and anime that you had to watch in order to get the full story
And even then it was still a mess
Honestly i wish i could live in the timeline where nomura finished XV because despite how fucked the game is i can see the potential it could have had
You wanna know or rather, read a highly condensed summary of what happened to (and surrounding) Versus? Does this story need to be told ONE MORE TIME?
Well here. Read it and weep. I know I did when I wrote it. ;___________;
XV is absolutely Tabata's fault. He was made director in Nomura's place with the express purpose of finishing the game he started.
Instead, Tabata tore the whole thing down and started over, making a game which he eventually stated was "no longer Versus XIII."
And despite wanting to make the game his own, he had absolutely no fucking vision, constantly changing the game's mechanics and features per frequent fan surveys.
So this game Square absolutely wanted out as soon as possible was constantly modifying even the most basic elements like it's COMBAT SYSTEM, and when the game finally comes out it's STILL missing promised features and won't be "complete" for another two and a half years.
Versus XIII's protracted development is SE upper management's fault. Between the troubles of FFXIII and XIV 1.0, Versus was put on the backburner and almost nothing was done with it for years.
Nomura gave Square an ambitious, fresh concept that would have printed money and got fucked in every conceivable way for it.
To rephrase what I previously wrote (), it was more of a combination of both Square Enix mismanagement and Tabata that ruined the game--the latter had to acquiesce to the demands of the former, while adding some fault of his own.
Think of this kinda like a kidnapping victim who participates in a robbery. Commits a crime--under duress.
You forget that SE were bleeding money and needed a new hit so Tabata was given the project after Nomura fucked off to finish KH3. Tabata had to finish it, even as an half baked mess which did happen
inb4 Barry’s autistic ass shows up
All they had to do was make Shadowbringers but as a single player game.
I look forward to Yoshi and Taro taking the reigns for FF16 though.
Ahem *ting ting ting ting ting*
A-AHEM *ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting*
I THINK TABATA SUCKS
>turns the best FF game since FFXII into a GTA bro trip sim
>has literally NO sense of tone, soul, taste or music except for the Versus
>FFXV ships as a LITERALLY unfinished game
>All DLC cancelled and Tabata is BTFO by Square after losing $33 million thanks to Luminous
>Which, by the way, is CONFIRMED still working on a PS5 exclusive
>Nomura CONFIRMED reviving Versus XIII and teasing us with Verum Rex, which is, in Nomura's words a separate project in spite of many visual similarities though singlehandedly ruining any and all XV discourse through his own salt
Lmao completely fucking anally devastated, not long before XV-kun, Barry and Bazztek, are finally put in their place. We won the long game Versus lads or shall I say Versus CHADS.
Can’t read it. It’s in low quality can you post it again higher quality?
Did FF13 make a lot of money? Excluding XIV, what was the last FF release to do well financially?
Man the visual direction of Versus XIII was so fuckin' stylish
Everything looks so clean and intentional, if that makes sense
Don't feed this pastanon. While you're correct about the visual direction, that person comes from a Discord about Versus fan wankery from which I got kicked out.
(pic related) is an exposé collage of what their fearless leader Zeal has been doing to gain traction by becoming one of us Versusfags.
You're all autistic and should stop obsessing over a game that will never truly exist
I just like the way it looked
Speaking of the Discord I mentioned in , none of them seemed to notice the second shirt featured in (pic related).
This isn't the only thing Nomura's done THIS YEAR that alludes to the Versus Epic, desu. More to follow.
Oh? You think this game will never truly exist? Nomura even states here that Versus and Verum Rex are two separate projects with ideas for Versus still fermenting within him. Nevertheles, more to follow.
Verum Rex isn't Versus XIII
Nothing will ever be Versus XIII
He can make as many games with ideas from or similar to Versus XIII as he likes but Versus XIII the way we knew it years ago will never, ever come out
You're as bad as MGSV Chapter 3 autists
If by 'bad' you mean 'grounded in our hunger for total and completely unhindered artistic integrity in video games', then we'll stay that way, thank you very much.
Just know that this image was leaked from the SQEX press kit by someone in /vg/ just the other night.
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER
If by 'bad' you mean 'grounded in our hunger for total and completely unhindered artistic integrity in video games', then we'll stay that way, thank you very much.
Just know that this image was leaked from the Tokyo Game Show (which falls on September 13th, THIS YEAR) press kit produced by SQEX by someone in /vg/ just the other night.
HARNESS THE BURNING ANGER
By 'bad' I mean 'wasting inordinate amounts of time obsessed with something that will never happen'
Whatever that image is about, it won't be the Versus XIII we were all excited for in 2007
That game is dead
It's time to let go
Versus got turned to 15 during Nomura's helm
>Versus XIII we were all excited for in 2007
Ah, fair enough. With the industry as it is now, Versus as it was back then can't happen anymore.
But even so, the problem is what Nomura will do with Verum Rex and the fact that Versus's influence is all over KH3 and VIIR as it is. Not only that, but the issues that drive the story foundations (which would presumably be used in a work that takes lots of narrative and design cues from Versus) of Verum Rex/whatever work will stand in place of a game like Versus XV and KH are incompatible.
One user stated that the Versus trailers were 'layered with personal statements', his final trailer is literally an obscured goodbye message and statement that got him in trouble with SE's management. Sauce here:
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Also, don't quote me on this, but I recall reading something that stated that making and publishing Versus would have allowed him to move on from Final Fantasy once he had released it. And now that Nomura's working on FFVIIR, I don't know if it'll be possible for him to do so unless he releases something he's been working on for more than a decade that, at one point, had a failed open beta and his depression which led to him getting two cats to show for it.
Even Tetsuya Takahashi--Nomura's bro/mentor--never let go of his magnum opus and to this day, is still rehashing Perfect Works to his benefit (AKA printing money for Nintendo as Xeno's become the companys' third big RPG franchise, or second if you don't count Pokémon).
Should we then, be so sure that Nomura will let go? As much as I'd like to think it, user, I don't have the confidence to say so. I hope this reply is a satisfactory answer to your question at the very least.
And yet, even Tabata states that XV and Versus are two different games. What difference does your reply make?
Don't forget Tabata fucking up the gameplay to pander to casuals.
We could of gotten something on par wth KH2FM in terms of gameplay but we got a Hold O mess instead
This is true. I remember the guy who leaked the dev details a few months before release. Sounded like the game had a fucked up direction. Large portions of the game wasn't made just months before launch and the story was getting massive rewrites close to launch with also the added headache of getting Luminous to run in open-world setting.
I wouldn't be too worried XV was highly successful so Versus can exist as originally intended though I don't know if they will still do the multi-part trilogy or not it's possible they won't have to anymore.
People are familar with the XV cast of characters and alternate universes just use the assets available develop new assets for the rest of the story sell it on two blu-ray disks.
For DLC well if they wanted to they could rewrite Dawn of the Future to fit the Versus narrative and include Stella.
If you have Episode Ardyn you get, the Episode Ardyn part for free.
Then you have stuff like Episode Arenea, Episode Stella, and Episode Noctis.
Alternate reality stuff that has no barring on the main story.
If the game is great it should make a killing and with the assets they have with XV it could be pretty profitable more profitable than FFX-3.
The DLC stuff is just extra cheddar
I'm very interested in that image personally I mean it could be for the china mobile game but
True twice in reverse I don't know what that would have anything to do with the china mobile game.
Which has young Noctis, Luna, and some other oracle on the cover.