We're nearly home, bros...
Classic WoW
Blake Bennett
Bentley Nguyen
what happened to these threads? asmongold apparently said some shit and the home threads just instantly died?
Jackson Ramirez
test
Justin Gutierrez
mods ban them. They hate videogames
Jack Flores
Wow. I can spend 16 hours on day one to get to level 10. Then I can spend the next month getting to level 40, providing I play every day and don’t get burnt out by the limited quests and dog shit xp. But unless I pick warlock or paladin I won’t be able to ride a mount so lol maybe at 45 when I save enough xDD
Joshua Nguyen
Was it really that good? I never got into wow, and I'm wondering if it has any value if you don't have any nostalgia attached to it?
Luke Ward
this but unsarcastically
only one way to find out
Ryder Green
makes sense with all the porn dump threads on the catalog
Bentley Bell
son youre 21 years old its time for you to leave home
Ryder Barnes
This. I played wow classic on a private served, got to level 44 and then I was completely burnt out, and to be honest I was burnt out around the late 30s but I just wanted to get a mount. It was such a tedious dull drag from 39-44 that once I finally saved up to buy a mount I was beyond done with the game and never touched it again.
Ian Scott
Bros, it's gonna be so good...
Jason Lewis
INVITE TO ASMON LAYER PLOX
Jayden Bell
Get over it and play ESO
Connor Peterson
its a shame that the hype died and even pro players like asmongold on twitch says its a dead game and failed
Sebastian Allen
Blizzard couldn't afford shills any longer.
Samuel Richardson
>pro players like asmongold on twitch
heh
Samuel Foster
why would you burn out? who's making you rush?
you must be very addicted to instant gratification.
Connor Davis
It was different and a lot of the fun was had from discovering all this new shit with everybody else. It's too well known now to have the same feeling with the community. Even if you take dungeon finding shit away you're gonna get robots that just spam LFG then clam up in parties.
Gabriel Murphy
>This faggot probably has no idea about the barrens chat.
Isaac Powell
FFXIV expansion came out and people realized that waiting for a 15-year old game is fucking retarded.
Nicholas Green
>have to pay a subscription for crafting storage
>literally fucked if you just want to buy the content
yeah, great game...
Luis Harris
Don’t forget the extremely limited class/spell variety. Druid healers are useless, as are Paladin healers. And it’s a 1000 gold to get a 100% speed mount at level 60
Gabriel Rogers
World of Warcraft is a feeling. If you don't have uber chat skills you probably shouldn't play.
Jaxon Thompson
it's not about that, leveling is a slog in general. WoW isn't complex enough to spend days on a single level, it's not like the leveling experience translates well into dungeons/raids/PvP anyway, you'll have to pretty much unlearn what you've 'learned' during leveling i.e. being mostly braindead.
David Stewart
desu Classic is just the warm-up for Classic Crusade and Classic Lich King
Luis Rodriguez
Yes it is. It just used to be a real challenge and you had fun all throughout the game. You actually spend some time in every region, dungeons, raids and all that other crap was just the cherry on top.
You had a lot of places randomly throughout WoW that were just as difficult like a dungeon. I remember it used to be almost impossible to do quests alone after level 20 or so. People had to work together and cooperate. No fucking excuse and no whining.
I remember there were even people that felt harassed when you whispered them something or even when you just said something in regular "say" chat.
Had to rub my eyes a couple of times thinking I was in some kind of bizarre singleplayer game suddenly.
Robert Garcia
I mean when I left the game there were people that suddenly felt harassed, that was around burning crusade when they created the dungeon finder.
Jace Robinson
You mean nostalgia will make all the v kiddies realize the game is shit?
Jaxson Peterson
That subscription is giving us big new content. Nobody pays subscriptions for small perks so they need something as a grip on the average player. Besides, you can enjoy the game for hours before you get to the point youre thinking about in depth crafting and wanting to hold on to everything, and when you reach that point if you still aren't willing to pay a measly £10 a month. Then enjoy dead wow
Jack Wood
how do we get this converted to work on the legion client?
picturechaos.dk
Ian Diaz
You're the reason why WoW retail fucking died my friend.
It was supposed to be a slog. You were never meant to reach level 60 in 3 days or so. But rather months or for some even a whole god damn year.
I remember the best thing on horde was without competition the barrens. Literally. I remember the alliance even wished for something like the barrens.
Colton Cook
lol even the elune statue
Isaiah Turner
Wow is a product of a different era. It doesn’t work in 2019. People will find that out for themselves
Adam Lewis
>nu-wow
oh ma gaod!!! It's shit! Simplified for zoomerz!!!
>old-wow
oh ma gaod!!! It's shit! Repetitive and grindy!!!
this will be Yea Forums when this comes out.
Joseph Wood
I think their model is fine but if I can buy all the content permanently I should be able to buy crafting storage too. They shouldn't fuck people over for actually choosing the premium option.
Camden Johnson
It is because WoW was never very good, then and now. It was new at the time, the only thing people remember fondly about it are the people that played it. The game itself sucks ass.
Luis Rodriguez
>They add vanilla-friendly Quel'thelas and Hyjal
>They add weird mysteries akin to Kara tombs and Varian Wrynn's imprisonment
>They add new items that marginally improve hybrid classes without going overboard
Charles Perez
Fucking this. It boggles my mind that people thought WoW Vanilla was anywhere near 'good'.
Nathan Nguyen
never ever going to happen, and if it did they would find a way to fuck it up
Anthony Wilson
Also makes sense that they allow 20 tranny fantasy 14 threads, nobody actually plays they just shitpost on Yea Forums about it instead.
Nathaniel Gomez
>the amount of threads on Yea Forums implies nobody plays the game
Yep, that's a retard alright.
Brandon Martin
based homeposter
Eli Flores
When your long awaited game gets killed by a single streamer beta. Nice move blizzard
Ryan Perez
Is there a chart or something with information on which servers streamers are gonna be playing so i can avoid them?
Wyatt Diaz
This.
>FFXIV
Now I know the truth. This was where I truly belonged all along. This is. Home.
Jose Hughes
Server 7, realm 15, shard 58, layer asmon... Home.
Jordan Martinez
I understand but if you can permanently buy the craft bag, everyone who wants it, will buy it. ESO+ will turn into a 1 or 2 month purchase for most, a cheap way to plough through the DLC quests then never sub again, until/if a new DLC gets added. Craft bag exclusivity guarantees resubs from thousands of daily players every month of the year.
Oliver Martinez
Jace Ramirez
Nice thanks.
Chase Carter
Just how big of a clusterfuck will STV be on the first month?
Nathaniel Reed
That is not true. The thing that made WoW so interesting was that the classes had to work together at all times. Not just for dungeons or raids.
You had to be social and actually talk to people.
Owen Wright
I'm not saying that leveling should take 3 days, I'm saying that the leveling in WoW is a slog, classic or retail. A slog that takes 3 days to complete isn't as bad as a slog that takes 3 weeks but it remains a slog nonetheless.
Luke Martinez
How is retail leveling a slog? You literally blitz through everything.
Also as I said it was supposed to be a slog. That was the charm on it. You spend quite a while on a certain level range before going to the next. It was intended that way.
Colton Bell
>it's not true that the people made WoW good it was the people
Ok
Jack Evans
>Slog
>Charm
Landon Perry
You could be just as unsociable then as you could now.
Daniel Diaz
There's a point where convenience takes away from the game, yes. But you don't use the dungeon finder that much in retail since normal and heroic dungeons are not worth doing, you have to create premade groups and get to the dungeon for m+ and raids, LFR is worse than normal pug because you wait for ages.
But Blizzard adopted the playstile of D3 where it's all about speed and repetition, which turns people into annoyed speedrunners. They're not social because they want to get shit done.
Oliver Brooks
The fucked up thing is, if you ever complain about the LFG tool around WoW fans, they get extremely defensive about it.
Adam Sanders
I'm really worried about Activision fucking up Classic WoW and adding a pay shop to it. I know everyone thinks they won't do this, but they have been pulling this shit with literally every single game that comes out. Why should Classic WoW be any different?
Henry Phillips
spending 3 weeks or more to get max level doing the same thing over and over again truly feels like you're blitzing through everything
Logan Flores
>You literally blitz through everything.
Have you leveled 1-120 since they added in level scaling? You absolutely do no blitz through everything, it's a fucking slog.
Jason Lewis
speaking of which, were is the latest tranny fantasy thread at? I got a question that needs answering and I refuse to go to /xivg/.
William Butler
Yes. I had more fun in the barrens than in the entire rest of the game back then. Sometimes I even created a brand new character because I wanted to go back to the god damn barrens. It was the only part of WoW that really felt open and big.
Yea but you the people who made WoW made it so you actually have problems that you can only solve by working together randomly in the world.
Today its different. 90% of the game can be done solo, there never really is any sort of problem that really needs any contact with other players. The rest of the 10% you spend with dungeon finder or other crap.
You see you mentioned another problem. So normal and heroic dungeons are redundant nowadays. Because they are probably way too easy and don't give satisfying loot any longer. Those dungeons that seem to be worth it are done in a couple of minutes over and over again.
Where is the Multiplayer part in this then? Where is the difference between me playing skyrim with a follower mod that allows me to take more than one follower and World of Warcraft? Seems to me like retail has become a singleplayer game where every other player just plays an npc that fits a certain role.
Jose Sullivan
Do I play ele shaman or Sm ruin lock?
Jace Cooper
Mods, do your job for once and move this thread to
Ian Carter
>Druid healers are useless, as are Paladin healers
Where the actual fuck have you received this retarded misinformation?
Paladin healers are WIDELY acknowledged as the most mana efficient healers in the entire game, as well as having the highest HPS.
Druids are the weakest healers, yes, it is known, however they are not fucking useless and can still pull decent numbers to get through anything.
Liam Price
Paladin are the best healers in the game you lying retard. Druids are good too especially with T3 set bonus. You clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about and additionally probably never ever set a foot in any classic raids.
The 1000 gold btw. is also without any discounts you giga brainlet.
You must be severely mentally handicapped to not have enough money for a mount at 40.
There are plenty of quests in the game. I leveld three chars to 60 and never ran out of them on any char and that is before more quests were introduced in later patches.
Jordan Thompson
I'm tempted to try out Classic for a week. I quit during Legion, because I was fucking sick and tired of doing the same content over and over at slightly higher difficulties. At least I can try a game I haven't played in like, a decade
No playable Goblins, but... I can live with that I guess...
Luke Rodriguez
you mean resto shaman
Kayden Richardson
so like a proper MMO that isnt mainstreamed for casuals and zoomers?
Brody Roberts
I don't know, user. Maybe you should make a new one so I can go shit post in that one too. I just started playing tranny fantasy too.
Aiden Harris
I quit after burning crusade and reached level 15 or so in a matter of 2 days. Playing maybe 4 hours each day.
Leo Sanchez
it'll be bad on the first month when people flood into it, it'll be a nightmare on the second month when the 60s come back.
Joseph Brown
Orc rogue.
>The best horde-side melee DPS PvE racial
>Good PvP racial that possibly outshines will of the forsaken (dodging a stun is superior to breaking a single fear)
I am going to be a chad and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Angel Ward
Honestly I doubt what you're saying is true. Especially with level 120 they had to make everything go faster.
Leo Wright
You were also supposed to have fun during the leveling proccess and that never happened either. Theme park MMOs are inherently flawed in many ways.
Jace Johnson
>avoidstreamers.com
based
Benjamin Miller
they're pretty much both up there
wotf also breaks sleeps, snares and charms
matter or preference
Julian Foster
Server 14, shard 5, layer 18, instance 8... home...
Jacob Morgan
The only reason leveling in retail WoW would be a slog now is so more people will want to buy WoW tokens.
Ethan Gutierrez
Might be an orc warrior instead, who knows. They get like 40% stun resist with talents and can break fear with berserker rage.
Brandon Ross
the fuck is this? I legit can't tell if this is extreme Photoshop or a rendered image.
Logan Howard
I meant leveling boosts.
Ryder Watson
Sneed.
Lincoln Anderson
do people actually want to play this? all you guys want is that feeling you felt 15 years ago when playing this game with your buddies, get real this shit is not going to spark that kind of emotion in you and you're only going to be bitterly disappointed if that's what you expect from it
Bentley Harris
I'm not autistic enough to care. I just enjoy it for what it is.
Brody White
>forced to sit a psychic scream and get clobbered by a full spriest rotation
>25% chance to ignore the blackout stun while you're running back to him
>you get blackout'd anyways
>die
How could this happen, orcbros? We were supposed to be the best!!
Oliver Fisher
You had fun, those random world quests actually were challenging. You were only 3 or maybe even 4 people. But everybody had to their job properly.
If the tank doesn't tank right or the healer sleeps or is out of mana your whole party could get wiped. Not in dungeons, not in raids, not in PvP. In normal PvE open world quests.
Probably largely unheard of in modern WoW.
Brayden Sullivan
You seriously can't tell that that's a rendered image? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Brandon Wood
MMOs do not work without grind despite how despised you may find it. Going back in time to regrind has got to be the most autistic thing I've seen in vidya for a long time.
Jason Phillips
Realistically speaking.
If I played around 3 hours everyday on weekdays and a bit more during weekends, would I be ready for phase 2 which is the PvP crazy fest that is going to happen?
I am going to be new to the game so I just want to be sure, if that's not enough, then I think I'm gonna have to move on.
That stupid release date fucked everything up for me.
Thomas Long
So are we finding out server names when they open character creation on the 13th?
That would be a nightmare trying to figure shit out and get names on the spot like that.
Adrian Morris
Jace Perez
>tfw getting our world coherency back
You'll be fine, nevermind the fact that you don't need to be 60 to enjoy and profit from pvp
Ian Wilson
Ya you'll be fine. p1 will be atleast 3 months giving all types of players time to be ready.
Lucas Stewart
The beauty of WoW was that you could do without grinding just doing regular quests.
Logan Lopez
If you go full min max autism with all heirlooms, including the ring you get from WoD, xp pots, warmode on and go the most efficient routes it takes you ~24 hours played to level from 1-120. For a new player you can easily quadruple that, if not more because heirloom maps also unlock flight points. They nerfed xp gains across the board with the revamp, dungeons give as much xp as questing does in the same timespan, killing mobs gives nothing etc.
Nathaniel Bennett
I'm a zoomer playing it for the first time aside from some brief time on a private server to try out different classes. It's not just nostalgia. Modern MMOs have gone to shit.
Jaxon Gray
The amount of actual conversation going on in parties was pretty barebones though. Most of the time it was just tank tank this, dps CC this, healers heal. Sometimes there's a special mechanic you get notified to pay attention to beforehand. The best parts were always the down time where you just talked to other people, like other people have said, Barrens chat where you're absent mindedly levelling on easy low level quests and getting bored. Or when someone takes a bathroom break in a dungeon, so you're not even playing the game at that point.
Tyler Ramirez
mmos have destroyed my eyes...
Aaron Edwards
Don't be a brainlet. Info will be given by latest end of next week giving guilds the weekend to organize.
Josiah James
>wanting to be friends with people who play mmos
yikes
Jaxon Moore
This was probably also a big consideration when they did it, but they also wanted to make leveling relevant again I think. But they did so in the worst way possible in classic Blizzard fashion. Also keep in mind it was done in preperation for the allied races, which unlock exclusive armor if you level them without a paid boost.
Thomas Williams
Cool, stay there tranny.
Connor Perez
>Classic Lich King
???
just play retail its the exact same game
Asher Parker
Dungeon/Raid Finder literally killed communities.
Camden Brooks
let me tel you all the reasons you are wrong.
>WoW isn't complex enough to spend days on a single level
The amount of people at level cap who cant play their class disagrees. While you cant really get away from the problem, a longer leveling experience mitigates it.
> it's not like the leveling experience translates well into dungeons/raids/PvP anyway
False, Instances reward gear, Because the leveling experience is longer, that shiny rare weapon you got both lasts you longer and speeds up your solo content. Earlier this year I got the Blade of Eternal Darkness off Princess in Mara. In classic I would have used that dagger from from the level I got it, probably till 60. It would have been game changing. In retail I put it on for about 2 levels (little more then a half hour) and tossed it in the bank.
>you'll have to pretty much unlearn what you've 'learned' during leveling
leveling in a system that punishes you for poor choice teaches you to play better. Modern wow is not only less likely to kill you but less punishing when you do die because run backs are shorter(your character moves faster when dead and there are more graveyards). The entire leveling experience teaches you to deal damage as best you can mitigate incoming damage as best you can.
Jaxson Walker
rent free
Chase Evans
Another hundreds or thousands of your life lost, wasn't it enough to lose your youth to this game? And now you want to do it all over again?
Dylan Cruz
Thanks, that's cool.
I was planning on poopsocking during my college break and then playing on a slower pace afterwards, but I guess that ain't happening.
I guess this has been already asked before but can anyone tell me good professions combos I could choose for Shaman?
Not sure if I should do Tailoring, Alchemy or Leatherworking.
Elijah Bell
What's the best race/class combo and why it's Tauren Shaman
Ayden Wright
cute undead priest looking for muscular tauren tank to protect me
Lucas Johnson
Seriously. At least waste your life on a new game, it'll be a new experience if nothing else. And no, I'm not telling you to play xiv, just play something else. play fucking eve for all I care, just play something else.
Jaxson Rogers
you mean undead priest right?
Camden Flores
Dungeon Finder on its own is not the problem. The biggest reasons why dungeons are so antisocial in modern MMOs are:
1. Dungeon finder is always implemented to be cross-servee, making befriending people you group up with pointless
2. Downtime is no longer a thing. Why did people chat in dungeons during vanilla? Because they were unable to play the actual game at that moment. They were waiting for tank to pick up aggro, or having a mana break, or whatever else. In modern MMOs there is no downtime - you are always moving towards the next boss/trash pack. You simply don't have any time to chat. I've played a lot of modern MMOs, and do you know which one has the most chatty groups and for what dungeons? FFXIV for main scenario roulette. Why? Because that shit is so badly designed you spend 90% of the dungeon group sitting through unskippable cutscenes, so you can either alt tab during those scenes or chat about random shit with your teammates.
Wyatt Fisher
MSQR is comfy as hell, I don't see the hate.
Benjamin Perez
What are the BiS items that any Shaman want, and that I won't probably get but would be cool to have?
Thomas Sanchez
War stomp really does compliment ele's kit.
Logan Baker
The teleporting and instant grouping is a critical factor. People had to at least talk to people to invite them, ask their party if they knew any friends that might fit a role, talk to see how long people would be to get to the dungeon entrance, etc. It was there that you got a feel for the group. You got to see if they were no nonsense, if they were up for fucking about, and everything in between.
Also don't forget that you don't have to co-ordinate when you can faceroll a dungeon by spamming AOEs while the healer tries not to fall asleep.
the mere acts of asking if people were ready, what CC they wanted, what target priority there was, etc was all an opportunity to talk.
Sure, some groups just shoved markers up and called it a day, but most would at least have some banter, especially if they'd already talked while running in.
Brandon Morales
Aha so 4 days. So what you mean to say leveling is far to fast?
That is also not the case you had mobs that were difficult in a way that they have to be killed in a certain manner. Mobs also had the same rules has playercharacters. You had very tanky mobs, healing mobs and damage dealing mobs.
Dungeons in general took much, much longer and were always rewarding.
>Barrens
>Low level easy quests
You know you had some quests that were easier but others that were very damn hard to play alone. Boars come to mind if we talk about the barrens.
Jack Smith
Trannies win again. When will WoWfags ever learn.
Mason Cruz
>don't forget that you don't have to co-ordinate when you can faceroll a dungeon by spamming AOEs while the healer tries not to fall asleep
this
even if nu-wow didn't have any part of the dungeon finder implemented, I doubt much of a difference would be made when nothing in the base game is an actual challenge. You'll only see vanilla levels of tension and having to strategize in mythic+
Landon Price
You do realize that this is what actually happens in retail WoW right? You still have to go to the entrance, setup the group, talk mechanics etc.
Caleb Fisher
Not only that but you actually had real value as a person. You were in any case valuable to your group and it was always a shame when somebody left early or couldn't come along to help.
I remember players begging me to help them out because they couldn't find a healer.
Ethan Foster
Yeah raid as ele spec but heal hehe
Austin Jackson
Not necessarily. Some people may even think you harass them. Only in rare cases when the LFG doesn't work you have to actually ask somebody.
David Parker
>asmongold taking a fat shit on classic every single stream
he literally claims that he and everyone else will quite LITERALLY 4 weeks after launch. Yes, 4 weeks. He says there is no more content than that, and ~40-50k unique viewers (according to twitch API, 25k avg viewcount, 50k unique viewers)every evening watch and believe him
If he keeps doing it people will actually do it, we know how easy gaming communities are influenced and controlled
Noah Wilson
Mythic+ is ruined by the fact its on a timer, making it essentially a speedrunning exercise.
Samuel Sanders
wow vanilla sucked cock
go back further and play PJ99, dont my time with these shit threads thanks
Bentley Brooks
That's a good point. Healers and tanks have always had more sway, but even a DPS leaving wasn't something to be taken lightly, because even early dungeons could be very difficult, if not impossible, if you couldn't kill a boss before the healer went OOM, and you couldn't just magic one up instantly.
Angel Morris
>Mana tide please
>Mana tide
>MANA TIDE
Thomas Jackson
oh no that sucks we won't have billion twitch zoomers to play with
Benjamin Harris
That sounds fucking grand to be honest. He can fuck right off and can take all those little fortnite zoomies with him.
Joseph Long
Are you okey, user?
I think you are having a stroke
Lincoln Williams
to be devil's advocate, it's unskippable so that newfags get to watch the cutscenes and not be left out for doing so
Nolan Myers
ALRIGHT BOYS ITS TIME
>Race
>Class
>Spec
Jack Brown
That was just an example, its just generally you always had some kind of worth and weren't that easily replaceable.
Adam Mitchell
Honestly, how many of his audience members will even play?
Brandon Cooper
TAUREN
DRUID
BALANCE
just gonna get to max level and wait for BC
Aiden Young
>$15/mo
>for a 15 year old game
Gavin Hughes
>Goblin
>Paladin
>lol what the fuck is that?
Camden Hall
Or you do it like papa user and continue playing on private servers.
Kevin Gray
HELLO FRIENDS I AM SNEED
Kevin Martinez
pretty sure my post made perfect sense retard
enjoy your shit meme game
Brody Sanchez
I'm using tokens
Asher Stewart
>bro trust me vanill- I mean classic was so hardcore I was there dude you literally had to bring a party of 5 to gather 5 bear asses and the leveling was an epic Journey that lasted a lifetime
Carter Williams
>no more chinks
>no more slavs
>no more rmt
>no more account hacked by chinks and slavs for rmt
>no more 400 ms
>no more in game night time during prime time
I wish I could pay more than 15$
Austin Bailey
user, you are clearly having a stroke, or you just don't know any english at all.
Go check yourself, good luck.
Eli Watson
It's almost like asmongold is a contrarian shitposting retard like most of his viewers (who also post on Yea Forums) and will say whatever gets him the most attention.
Andrew Adams
I wish they'd allow us to skip them even if means we still can't move at all until they're over. Like instead of three minutes of Gaius edgy might makes right monogue its three minutes of characters being frozen in a circle similar to the one you have at start of dungeons/trials/raids.
Caleb Baker
You can't hype every fucking day for a 15 year old game. Listen, I'm hyped as fuck but I decided the race, class and the days I'm going to play with my friends and the way we are going to go trough every single 5-man dungeon A MONTH AGO.
What the fuck do you wan't me to do now? Jump around like a basedboy "wahuu wahuu", listen my heart can't take hype this long. Post porn or some shit I dunno, haha alliance is gay horse is good because better lore? Is that good enough content for another month for you?
Go play WC3 or something, I played it two months ago and completely forgot how fucking boring alliance is.
Gabriel Stewart
Orc or undead lock?
Orc lock
>Hardiness is god tier in vanilla, especially for casters
> Axe skill is useless
> Blood fury is useless outside of weaving melee attacks while leveling
>Has shoes
>Hipster points
Undead lock
>WotF is nice but how often will you get feared or charmed as a warlock?
>Cannibalize is decent, and is funny in PvP
>Shadow resist is meh
>Cool animations
>No shoes
>Generic race/class combo
Luke Ross
>$20/mo
>for a 15 year old game
Gavin Jackson
XIV threads already died.
Ryder Miller
But Orcs were the original Warlocks.
Anthony Thomas
retard faggot
Jonathan Thomas
going to be playing a human warrior. also fuck assmongoloid.
Landon Reed
I know, but in game orclocks are less common than undead.
Brody Smith
if this is really all you've got to defend your shit choice of game then i suppose i wont waste my time anymore
i hope it feels good for you to shovel more money into daddy blizz's pockets you stupid fucking drone, keep enabling their shitty practices for the last goddamn decade
Cooper Cooper
Oh no, but what about the legion of FRIENDS I had in vanilla that are resunscribing?! I don't want to be home ALONE!!1
Gabriel Gomez
Oh it is good to know you are back to normal, and you seem to know your way around the language a bit more than I initally thought.
Still, go check yourself my man, you were clearly having an episode of something minutes ago.
Grayson Clark
Yeah, it's really good, it's streamlined enough that any retard can play it and also feels like an actual open world RPG before they started to clean shit up to turn it into a instance based diablo game.
Caleb Thomas
How do you even sustain enough gold for monthly tokens without investing thousands of hours into nuWoW? Is it still possible to have like 10 alts rotating garrison shit to make enough?
Ian Clark
26 days until people realize LITERALLY EVERY PRIVATE SERVER IN EXISTENCE was ridiculously overtuned and elites do half the fucking damage and give twice the XP they did in Nostalrius.
It's gonna be fucking wild. I mean, it's mindblowing to think about.
Caleb King
Forgot to add that after they started cleaning the RPG shit, all other MMO's followed and that's why MMO's are now dead, best thing about vanilla is the social aspect. Social aspect in MMO's are the mark of all the old still existing MMO's except WOW.
Ethan Hill
>no more chinks
don't care. never had anything to do with them.
>no more slavs
don't care. never had anything to do with them.
>no more rmt
you must be joking.
>no more account hacked by chinks and slavs for rmt
never had this problem
>no more 400 ms
never had this problem
>no more in game night time during prime time
don't care
>I wish I could pay more than 15$
you must be joking
Andrew Morgan
Can druids farm gold efficiently? Solo Mara Princess? Solo DME lashers when that's out?
Christian Baker
>game is old, therefor it is bad
you heard it here folks, Super Mario Bros is a bad game because it's 30 years old
Parker Cruz
Yikes.
John Barnes
I thought that type of soloing was reserved for pet classes only. Could be mistaken though, especially if this dude turns out to be correct
Liam Brown
I tried got bored with how dog shit the combat is.
David Anderson
yeah, all those people who have been playing private servers will log into classic and be like "OH NO THE GAME SUCKS NOW I NEVER REALIZED HOW BAD IT IS IN THE YEARS I SPENT PLAYING IT" and immediately quit
seethe harder, retailfag
Brandon Jackson
Can't wait to see private niggers try their funserver strats too. They think they know, but they don't
Noah Lee
>Getting closer to release
>Yea Forums is seething harder and harder trying to shill FFXIV.
Love it.
Daniel Wood
Do you have any idea how weird it was for a MMO to be a cultural phenomenon?
Admit it, they did something right back then.
They had fucking TV spots jesus fuck
youtube.com
Cooper Reed
>haha classic sucks you're just nostalgic about it
>it will be dead in a few months
>you're not a kid anymore, you don't have time to play it
>you're just trying to relive your childhood
>the raids are so fucking easy, bosses only have 1 mechanic lolol
>everyone will quit when they remember how bad the game is
>people only liked it because it was new
>there's no mystery to the game anymore, everything is figured out
>you really want to drop all of the improvements retail has made over the years?
>lol why are you paying for a game already released 15 years ago
>blizzard is going to fuck it up, just you watch
>it's not better, just slower
>layering.webm (video actually from the blizzcon demo, not the beta)
>people only played private servers because it's free, nobody will pay $15 for classic
>no content after naxx, you can't keep playing forever lol
Luis Smith
WotF helps in PVP and is really useful for soloing dungeons, also it's always good for raids. Cannibalize has great synergy with life tap and if you aren't stupid you'll be using it off cooldown nonstop.
Hardiness is good but Undead racials are better overall.
William Taylor
>implying blizzard isnt going to keep it casual as fuck to reel more people in
You would literally have to be a retard to believe they are making it close to 1:1
Landon Hall
>new is good
Luis Nelson
problem is leveling is so god damn mind numbing nobody wants to do it especially if you already have multiple max level characters. Its absolutely braindead, you never feel any sense of progression and never under any threat. Except for maybe a bored max level enemy player just swooping down on his flying mount and instantly deleting you
Still I think XIV leveling is worse
Ayden Nguyen
But vanilla WoW is a bad social game.
>most zones have almost almost no group quests at all
>level ranges are so strict that actually attempting to play with your friends is an exercise in frustration because everyone will inevitably level at a slightly different pace and won't want to carry your ass through RFK because it now gives them shit loot
>exp sharing mechanics are draconian, people will disband and fuck off as soon as you're done killing that named mob because they do not want you making them level even slower
>limited resources also reward solo play because people don't want you stealing their ores, herbs, greens etc.
It's a game that you really, really, really have to TRY to make work as a social game at all. Hell most people's memories of social stuff is actually "uhhh I slaved to 60 mostly solo but I saw green chat once in a while, then we maybe raided"
Cooper Russell
Neither racial is inherently "better" than the other. They are both situational.
Though there are more stuns than fears.
Dominic Green
Classic WoW is the ultimate zoomer test. If you are going to play it, no doubt are you a zoomer. If you are not, no doubt you have already played Vanilla WoW and know that this remake is just going to be a shitty version of it.
Chase Adams
How can anyone play human? What makes them stand out to anyone? Is there anything unique about them?
Jaxon Harris
Nu-wow fans.
Andrew Barnes
Blake Perez
Nah man. If you've ever played a private server you'll know overtuned shit is one of the most common complaints. Sometimes it's just fucking blatant and outrageous.
BUT MUH SIT ENRAGE
Tyler Nguyen
anyone here remember the loyalty level six drama? That was how I first found out about this place, as well as my first time experiencing the furfag menace
Hunter Evans
holy shit man you made me google that and I vividly remember fapping to that 10 years ago
nice.
Ethan Thomas
>most zones have almost almost no group quests at all
wrong
>level ranges are so strict
literally every mmo ever
>exp sharing mechanics are draconian
splitting exp evenly is "draconian" ?
you're killing enemies twice as fast so you get half the exp, I don't see what is wrong about that
>limited resources also reward solo play
literally every mmo ever
seethe harder retail babby
Joseph Price
it wont be the same
Julian Powell
>It's a game that you really, really, really have to TRY to make work as a social game at all
If this was your experience during Vanilla, you played on a dead server.
The people I met in STV in Vanilla I stayed friends with all the way until Wrath when everyone quit or xferred.
Gavin Roberts
Best sword/mace dps
Superb reputation bonus
Evan Carter
It's better than the alternative.
"Slog", in nu-wow it's fucking instant leveling, wasted time, you can just press random buttons, never die and OOOPS you are in end game and don't know how to play your class.
Not much better in FFXIV..
In classic you have to fucking learn and play, it's part of the actual game, not a race to end game unless you wan't it to be.
Jose Clark
nobody's expecting it to be "the same"
but it's infinitely better than World of Diablocraft that retail has become
Levi Harris
there's a general on /vg/
also the threads peaked when the beta started, obviously the hype wasn't going to stay at that level for 3 months
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Funny you bring that up because STV is pretty much the only zone actually designed around group quests. TBC did group quests so much better already, it only took Blizz 1 expansion to fix the mess that was group leveling.
Grayson Bailey
i made 500k in 2 weeks, but i play on MalganisUS so the AH is always active.
Jonathan Martinez
Calling modern WoW a Diablo clone is an insult to Diablo, even Diablo 3.
Camden Martin
>TBC did group quests so much better already
...but the group quests in TBC were exactly the same as vanilla ones.
"kill some elite mobs"
"kill a named elite mob"
?
Blake Wright
FFXIV is the real home. Stop making these copycat threads.
Dominic Moore
When are you going to give up on your lost cause nublizz game and come play the superior mmo with us, wowfags?
William Jenkins
>STV is pretty much the only zone actually designed around group quests
Hillsbrad
Arathi Highlands
Burning Steppes
Ungoro
These all were designed around group questing. You are just wrong, my dude.
Carter Jones
Someone post the Asmongold pic.
Tyler Anderson
>wanting to play an MMO full of trannies
yikes and cringepilled
Bentley Diaz
youre prob right, def. avoiding all streamer servers though or itll be hell
Gabriel Harris
Things TBC did differently in regards to group quests:
First off there just were a ton more. Like half or more of the quest chains ended up with a group quest at the last quest.
They had GOOD rewards as well, 5man-tier blues, so everyone wanted to do them. /1 was constant LFG spam.
No "gotta wait for the thing to respawn 5 times"
And honestly? They were pretty fucking memorable. Probably because they were part of regular quest chains.
Mason Martin
Source on this webm bros.
Austin Powell
Found the zoomer
Come play classic user, I promise it's fun
Samuel Edwards
There are tons of group quests in vanilla too, user. You're just not looking hard enough.
Every leveling zone has at least 3 or 4 group quests in it. Some even more.
Camden Wright
>Hillsbrad
>Arathi Highlands
I vividly remember everybody fucking hating these and everybody skipped them in every alt they leveled.
>Ungoro
????
>Burning Steppes
Okay, sure.
I am going to. I'm just not going to pretend TBC didn't do some (SOME) things way better than Vanilla did.
Logan Mitchell
it literally is bootleg diablo 3
>rng loot out of the ass + endless gear threadmill
>even the old world quest rewards fucking titanforge now
>huge mob packs literally fucking everywhere so you are expected to aoe them all down
>infinite hp/resorces to never need to take breaks
>world quests are adventure mode dailies
>m+ is literally greater rifts
fuck this shit
Hunter Johnson
>Wanting sauce to tranny porn.
There is a traitor amongst us!
Easton Bailey
>Arathi Highlands
That's a fun zone user, wtf?
>I am going to. I'm just not going to pretend TBC didn't do some (SOME) things way better than Vanilla did
They did some things better but some things worse
Charles Thompson
Hillsbrad has quests like Preserving Knowledge on Alliance side and Humbert's Sword on Horde side.
Arathi Highlands has a shitload of group quests over at the southwest castle for both factions.
Matthew Davis
the worst part is the gear. you're literally collecting dozens of the same piece now hopping for that 1 god roll. if it wasn't for raid lockouts retail WoW would literally be just a different camera angle for Diablo 3 and retaillet zoomers obviously eat it up, including assmongoloid.
Isaiah Russell
>troll
>hunter
>marks
Adrian Cooper
>They did some things better but some things worse
Of course. Group quests is definitely something that Vanilla did very badly.
Here's another hot take for you: TBC's Looking For More tool is literally perfection. The only reason people hate LFG is because Blizz went full retard shortly after that and made it cross-server and instant teleport and all that gay shit. TBC's is functionally just the equivalent of spamming /2 for 30 minutes, but without the actual /2 spam.
Luke Rivera
This is gonna fail so hard
Jordan Bennett
>Tauren(F)
>Druid
>Probably going to be using 0/30/21 for a long time because I like healing raids and tanking dungeons
Levi Allen
based
Charles Hill
>limited class/spell variety
Every class has about 2 to 3 times the amount of spells they have in vanilla....
Nathaniel Phillips
THIS
Anyone have it? It's the wojak edit
Hunter Torres
I know the guy who handles the site is here, but just to let you know, Forsen isn't gonna play Classic, and even if he did, he wouldn't play more than 2-3 days
Christopher Hill
>zoomers who have never even played vanilla keep coming into vanilla threads to shitpost misinformation
Luke Fisher
>Troll female
>Warrior
>Arms until Shield Slam
>Deep Prot until BWL, then I want to try meme-tanking as Fury
id play Undead if they just gave us the fucking Chinese models.
Kayden Sanders
>I remember it used to be almost impossible to do quests alone after level 20 or so.
You literally have nostalgia googles. 95% of the content is best done solo until you are level 60, that was the whole point of WoW when it came out(much more casual and solo focused than other MMOs). Not saying classic won't be good, I'll play it and most probably enjoy it a lot. But you won't because your expectations are wrong from the beginning.
Isaiah Sullivan
>Arms until Shield Slam
.....Shield Slam is the 31-point Prot talent you dingus
Benjamin Foster
>impossible to do quests alone after level 20
What the fuck ? Even overtuned pserver players are doing fine
Caleb Garcia
And they only use 1 or 2 of them
Cameron Brooks
It's just not your kind of game retard. It's like someone who hates soccer complaining about FIFA. Vanilla WoW was pretty much the best MMO ever made.
Michael Harris
see u in mulgore,
i'm going 1/30/20
Cameron Hall
>Vanilla WoW was pretty much the best MMO ever made.
I see someone was too young to enjoy FFXI
Jose Hernandez
also using fury to tank is not a "meme", lots of tanks do that for the threat
You really only need like 20 points in prot to be an effective raid tank.
Lucas Lee
0/30/21 is a pretty good resto build anyway, in terms of actual raid healing nothing in deep resto beats the 20% int you get from deep feral.
Leo Johnson
Learn to read, dumbfuck.
Chase Watson
>you have to create premade groups and get to the dungeon for m+ and raids
You literally use the dungeon finder for every single level of mythic.
William Brooks
"arms until Shield Slam"
???
Gavin Mitchell
lol I really do plan on Fury-tanking eventually, but it is absolutely a meme. If you AND your healers are 100% prepared for it, it just won't work.
Especially since now we know that Crit values are not what people thought they were, and boss avoidance is much much higher.
Joseph Sanders
We now also know that pservers were ridiculously overtuned and people made fury tanking work even there.
Brayden Lewis
>Spec (Arms until Shield Slam) is available and then switch to Prot
Big brain reading comprehension
Gabriel Bell
arms until she hits level 40 then she respecs to prot
Ryder Butler
Well there were ways to play solo but you usually have to abandon certain quests, have to play the right class and so on. Its not impossible but not recommended either.
A lot of private servers have the problem that players play until level 20 and then they drop the game because they couldn't for the life of them just say "hello" to another player and form a group. Because they quests get harder and harder, some are downright impossible alone.
Or at least not without dying countless of times.
Jose Richardson
>pservers were ridiculously overtuned
Not for raid bosses. They were actually undertuned.
Jayden Long
>new Tool album AND Classic WoW
It really will be like middle school again.
Ryder Myers
If anything, bosses having higher avoidance will only make Fury tanks more viable because the threat will be that more valuable.
user, look further down in the Prot tree. There is nothing down there that increases your avoidance. All of the defense-increasing talents are up at the top. Once you've got ~20 points in Prot, that's all of the defenses you're getting from the tree. A Fury warrior is not going to magically take more damage just because he's Fury.
>"I'm gonna go Shadow until Lightwell"
>"NO YOU RETARD THAT MEANS I'M GOING TO RESPEC GOD YOU'RE SO RETARDED"
yikes and cringepilled
Easton Brooks
No one gives a shit about it besides the most dedicated "hardcore" guilds. I raided 30/0/21 all throughout vanilla and got up to saphiron in naxx.
Ryan White
uh, no, pserver bosses have way more armor than bosses in classic, and dealt way more damage
they're massively overtuned
Owen Miller
>using experiences from retail vanilla to claim that people will be the exact same in 2019
lol
Jeremiah Cooper
>paladin healers are useless
fuck off back to /ffixv/ faggot
Joshua Smith
I don't play animu simulators sorry. I like my games without a full community of faggots and trannies.
Joshua Murphy
>A Fury warrior is not going to magically take more damage just because he's Fury
>...
>he doesnt know about parry haste
How embarrassing. Fr one of the benefits of Fury tanks is that they take more damage, lol.
You've played yourself.
Justin Ross
What the fuck are you talking about, people drop because they don't like it or fet bored. Group quests can easily be avoided if you don't want to tale risks on your leveling circuit or don't want the rewards, which are often not worth your time in thz long run.
Jacob Flores
>"all throughout vanilla"
Classic is going to be 1.12 spells/talents, not a patch progression. If you're not healing with 31-point resto for mana tide, people WILL notice and WILL complain to the raid leader about it.
Also people were fucking scrubs back then and didn't give a shit about good raid comp. Even "casual" guilds nowadays are more coordinated than "hardcore" guilds in 2005.
Hudson Jones
Classic now has a general on vg
Aiden Smith
>pserver bosses have way more armor than bosses in classic, and dealt way more damage
Source for this?
Brody Nelson
>I remember it used to be almost impossible to do quests alone after level 20 or so
Either you remember horribly wrong or you were a horrible player.
Tyler Cooper
You're going to find the exact same people. Hell, they existed during MOP too(last xpac I played) it just wasn't a concern because dual spec was there. Also, ever since TBC specs became pretty much their own classes( I.E you can ONLY heal with resto, you can ONLY tank with prot), vanilla was very different. You'll always find people who don't care about min-maxing tho.
Nathaniel Peterson
Don't worry, we wouldn't want zoomers in the superior old mmo anyway
Jason Foster
>Even "casual" guilds nowadays are more coordinated than "hardcore" guilds in 2005.
You are an absolute ass-clown if you believe that. You have no experience in a hardcore guild, that's pretty obvious.
Lincoln Wood
>posts a shitty build earlier
>didn't even take the defense talent
It's like you enjoy crushing blows.
Caleb White
Server 9... Layer 12... Shard 6... Asmongold Group 4...
Home...
David Smith
>damn fury tanks are going to do a billion more threat but take 0.001% extra damage during a fight due to parry haste? guess we gotta scratch everything and go back to prot warrior boys
retailcucks actually believe this lmao
Isaac Price
I doubt casual guilds could handle UD Strat, DM N Tribute, or Scholomance runs that well.
Nathaniel Powell
Believe it or not, everyone knew it wasn't the best spec back then. No one gave a shit but the most hardcore players because the majority of players understood people didn't want to farm 50g multiple times a week just to respec. These same people will be present during classic.
Jonathan Myers
ESO has terrible art direction and combat. It's so dumbed down it makes WoW look like rocket science by comparison
Sebastian Campbell
You can easily make it from level 1 to 60 alone with grouping or talking to a single person as any class in the game.
Isaiah Nelson
>guess we gotta scratch everything and go back to prot warrior boys
no one said that
Joseph Russell
Casual guilds were clearing BWL minimum(most were doing late AQ40 + early naxx) at the end of vanilla. Even guilds that didn't have 40 lvl 60s would team up with other guilds to do it.
David Allen
Based on what, exactly?
I played on a garbage RPPVP server where people pugged those dungeons every day.
Kayden Bennett
That is not what I've seen. In those zones that you can largely play on your own those players usually level decently. I've even met a lot of such players and tried talking to them but they usually have that "retail" mentality. Rush in kill 4-5 mobs level up quickly and then go to the next zone.
Only when it was actually about relying on somebody because "rushing in" doesn't work suddenly they just don't want to play any longer. Many players, not all of course.
Also seen many complaining about 1x exp rates on private servers, mobs are too strong, or what I also often heard was "Halp IM autist, me no socialize." Which is especially retarded in my opinion since you are literally the character you play. You can always start a new character and nobody will know its yours.
Alexander Collins
Nope I'm quite certain. WoW had in every region places that were especially difficult. Because you'd pull in two mobs at once usually that you can't handle alone for example.
Josiah Price
I'm convinced that the only people who are hyped for classic are streamer fan zoomers
Thomas Reed
Hows life with brain damage?
Isaiah Perry
An issue for bad warriors or priests.
Everyone else has some form of CC.
Hunter Carter
Okay go ahead. Try mage level 1-60. Or I dunno warrior level 1-60. Be prepared to be utterly frustrated quite a lot.
Samuel Barnes
99% will kust say "inv" for the tag/small elite quest while they're here and move on. Name 1 non elite quest thay can't be soloed "rushed in" as you say.
People complain about xp rate because they want to reach endgame quick which is where stuff happens.
Parker Ross
undead
priest
disc/holy
Gabriel Scott
Even with CC it was difficult. You were either extremely squishy or ended up pulling in even more mobs.
Ayden Cox
>the class that makes its own food and water
>has sheep
>+ frost nova
>+ blink
>+ice block, if talented
nibba, what? Warrior, ok, it's not fun.
Jaxson Clark
haha what the fuck are you talking about
man, there are some dumbass motherfuckers floating around these threads
David Roberts
>(body) pull
>refresh tag, even with ranged weapon
>kill mob
>repeat
You just have to be patient, and why in hell do you mention mages, they're retarded fast and efficient levelers.
Did you even play the game?
Isaac Miller
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
Joseph Wood
The amount of LARPing is unreal, it's almost easier to do an IRL ironman than clearing RFK according to these guys'
Liam Price
can somebody invite me to the discord?
Brody Jackson
>literally doesn't understand that Classic isn't 1-1 with Vanilla and is still tuned to be more easier then it cause blizzard needs those casuals subs.
Blake Cox
retail shitter detected. Leveling is half the game in classic
Luke Sanchez
>dude you need to play 16 hours a day for 8 months to get to level 20
Do zoomers actually believe this?
Carter Ramirez
It's so bizarre seeing people suddenly popping up to say that Classic will fail because it's TOO HARD.
A few weeks ago people were saying Classic would fail because it's TOO EASY.
Jack Sanchez
y'all retards can keep talking, screencap this when you have your casual guild run and the guild "friend" who's sort of ok at the game body pulls another group and that 1 hour scholo run turns into 2.
Nolan Price
So will I be able to kite bosses to Stormwind?
If not, I'm going to pass on this.
Liam Gray
Guys can anyone please tell me where to find mankirk's wife??
Samuel Baker
Mage is only good at leveling if you can get uninterrupted aoe grinding, which is really unlikely.
Else it's mana-intensive frostbolt spam, drinking after literally every pull and being shredded by anything that gets to melee you.
Anthony Harris
Ethan Gray
>People complain about xp rate because they want to reach endgame quick which is where stuff happens.
See? Was not the case in vanilla. You still had some things to do of course but it was largely about getting there rather than being there.
>99% will kust say "inv" for the tag/small elite quest while they're here and move on. Name 1 non elite quest thay can't be soloed "rushed in" as you say.
Okay here is a map that shows places that used to be fairly difficult back in the day.
Echo island because there was a boss there that was level 20 and you had to use an item on him to kill him. Many players actually wasted that item back in the day.
Those green marines, if two or three of them gank on you, you were dead.
North of Razorhill you get a quest where you have to kill harpies. Which spawn fairly densely together so you're bound to fight more than one if you're unlucky. With very little possibilities to run away from.
Northeast the cave, if you're not careful you could always get killed easily and in the west you had these thunderlizards. Fall into their pit and there is little chance you make it out alive.
This is the very first zone for orc players and troll players. Already here you die fairly often if you don't walk in a group.
Jacob Robinson
Redpill me on this. How's the leveling? No dual spec / same costs I remember have all but killed my priest dreams.
Jack Rogers
Got my vanilla and tbc box right here.
frostbolt is extremely mana efficient and is easier to use than AOE farming, call it quits.
Christopher Morgan
BEST Yea Forums thread
Ethan Bailey
>(body) pull
If you pull it off, if you head into any cave or place that is narrow you get mobs that spawn behind you. You get ganked by 2 or 3 mobs. Dead.
>You just have to be patient, and why in hell do you mention mages, they're retarded fast and efficient levelers.
Ahem, drinking and eating after every mob using frost attacks all the time, opps one mob got too close! My waifu awaits me in the graveyard already!
Owen Clark
not him but I've leveled 3 priests on different private realms (1x xp rate)
It's painfully boring but isn't that bad if you play it safe. I think it took me 10 in-game days to 60 whereas the fastest was 8 and maybe the average is 9 (for other classes)
Be careful with your mana before level 40. Spec into improved wands in disc and then go shadow (spirit tap). Wand shit to death when they hit 30% health so your mp/5 starts. Once you hit 40 you're pretty good. Still buying mana drinks though to speed it up. And no one fucks with you in pvp. And you're the only class who wants +spirit over EVERY OTHER STAT as you level. Don't listen to other retards who tell you different.
Levi Watson
>Esfand tries to defend classic
>gets BTFO so badly he ends up crying on twitter
Yeah the hype is gone
Kayden Anderson
With imp. wand talent, you can shield -> SWP -> wand your way to 60
It's not the highest DPS in the world, but it gets the job done and there is virtually ZERO downtime.
Colton Cruz
Zalazane is level 10, faintly glowing skull is a reward from another quest nearby but no way it was necessary to kill him.
Kultirans are pushovers, the only threats are respawns if you're fucking around or a charge crit if you're a clothie.
Harpies are hard, but no way unsoloable even as a warrior.
Thunder lizzards are needed for a level 10 quest, only Darkstorm the goblin is annoying.
William Martinez
>North of Razorhill you get a quest where you have to kill harpies. Which spawn fairly densely together so you're bound to fight more than one if you're unlucky.
those fucking level 10-11 blue bitch harpy fuckers casting lightning bolt from a million miles away and i'm a warrior so i can't do anythng about it aksnsujsm 8usbn asdas da23d2
Nathaniel Bailey
>MMO
>Sharding
lol
Thomas Turner
>all these pathetic paycucks handing money to nu-blizzard and activison to shit out a casualized rehash of a 15 year old game but with sharding this time
>"muh community" while not realizing the demographics and community of MMO's has changed
How many pay cuck trannies will kill themselves after they realize playing this game won't let them relive their childhood?
Will we see a spike in suicide rates bros?
Ayden Gray
>It's painfully boring but isn't that bad if you play it safe.
>if you play it safe.
>safe.
So you died a million times until you got there and everybody around you probably even asked to help you but you'd rather die 20 more times instead?
Adam Garcia
What the hell are you even talking about?
Are you simple?
Daniel Powell
yo bros can I get an inv to ASMON GOLD LAYER PLS
Alexander Nelson
>full mana since you're wanding a lot
>heal yourself up if you over pull
>if shit hits the fan just psychic scream and de-aggro
haha oh wow, that was hard. We get it, you're bad.
Ryder Bell
what the fuck am i reading
Carson Ortiz
What in god's name are you doing if you are so slow mobs respawn behind you? How in the world can't you pull off a body pull + refresh and not kill an eventual 2nd mob? An undergeared warrior can do it and don't get me started on pallies
Mason Scott
Yet all of those could kill you unlike today where you just breeze through and Zalazane is absolutely impossible for a level 6 character in vanilla WoW.
I remember even a friend of mine wasted his item and we both died at least 5 times trying to take him on. He was a shaman and I was a hunter.
Leo Peterson
I don't give a shit about retail, you claimed vanilla was ultra hardcore and impossible to solo post level 20, which is clearly wrong.
Julian Miller
>Will we see a spike in suicide rates bros?
Most likely will but only by a small margin. Most of these players will just end up either quit playin MMOs all together or just remain in their Warcraft bubble until they grow too old to play anymore.
>can i get a Invit to asmon layer.
sure.
Gavin Wood
And if you're in the middle of a cave or anywhere narrow you pulled 10 more mobs and got killed at the entrance. Okay.
Especially pallies are slow as dogshit in vanilla. Literally all they have at the beginning is one spell that does damage the rest is auto attack. Until you kill one or two mobs the whole area respawned twice.
Xavier Ward
I don't even know why I'm arguing with a retard about leveling. I've probably leveled 6+ classes to 60 in vanilla, it's not difficult, you're bad.
Aiden Ortiz
Press on and don't backtrack until you exist the hypothetical cave with multiple multiple mob packs. Respawn timers are generous enough to let you do that, even as a holy pally
Robert Allen
You yourself mentioned obstacles that even killed players that didn't even hit level 10 yet.
Those were just a few examples. On level 20 its much, much harder and it doesn't get easier anywhere.
Jason Cruz
Jace Hughes
Ian Cox
Oh wow I got killed once during the harpy quest and Darkstorm, man that was impossible back then. You're gaining more and more tools as you level so there's no excuse to be unable to do a non elite quest.
Ryan Price
That won't help you, its not like those mobs are standing still either. You get a lot of patrolling mods that you don't anticipate or maybe you read their paths wrong.
I think you never even touched vanilla to be honest. In the past people who seriously went solo were seen as retards who were widely made fun of. For good reason! I remember in the past "going solo" was a meme that nobody even took seriously.
Angel Carter
How hard would it have been to just give paladins a fucking crusader strike. They had one in beta for fucks sake. It would make them somewhat viable. A whole extra swing to proc SoC would have been glorious.
Brayden Barnes
Does anyone know how well it runs? If it's Legion / BfA engine then I have my doubts 40 vs 40 is going to run particularly well.
Michael Jenkins
That wasn't a meme and no one ever said "going solo". You haven't played shit. You grouped up for elite quests and that's about it. If you saw someone else killing mobs you need x/20 for, they invite you and then you bail when you both had 20/20. If you didn't see someone, you did it yourself no problem.
Fucking poser.
Nicholas Reed
My point is it was challenging and fitting to your level. You were a peasant with a glued together weapon but you still had fun. Instead of trying to get to the end level as fast as possible.
I remember killing Zalazane the regular way was like killing a boss in dark souls back then. Me and my buddy felt like we did the impossible for two level 6 characters. Forget that today. Literally impossible.
Andrew Bennett
Name this magical cave and I'll level a talentless pally just to test your theory.
James Foster
A certain someone hated paladins. BC gave them the tools they needed for prot, but ret was still meh.
Jaxon Gonzalez
ESO is fucking gay
It was good for a little while, around Shadows of the Hist patch balance was good, performance was good
They started doing the retail wow shit ever since the Morrowind Expac: Pay to win store, pay to win DLC class, nerf the old classes. Then they literally did it again with Elswyer with a fucking class that can kill 50+ people in 2 seconds with bash spam.
Oh and also, the game runs like frozen shit
Fuck ESO
>t. 1257 Champion who quit
Charles Russell
No one ever literally said that because it largely didn't exist and everybody who actually admitted it was considered either a troll or a retard. Also no, I think most people that I have good memories of I met during normal questing. We usually kept the group and went on to do quest after quest.
I even remember one bitch hissing at me back then because I did a quest alone that she liked and she wanted to the quest with me.
I had to buy her something in the game to make up with her.
Jeremiah Nguyen
Not sure how long this would hold my attention, we're gonna melt through raids...
Carter Reyes
Nothing personal
Alexander Bailey
Okay how about Dun Morogh those parts around Gnomeragan. You had quests there to kill some mobs there. If you weren't in a group you usually get your ass handed to you. Or as I said that example with the cave northeast of durotar, can't play a pally of course.
Or there is one cave in darkshore full of nagas in the northeast. Also a cave. One wrong step and you have 4 mobs on you.
Ethan Williams
i run those using lfg
Jaxson Nguyen
final fantasy xiv exists
Isaac Stewart
>Human male
>Mage
>Frost/Fire
The most based choice
Samuel Collins
Yeah Furor and his anus cadet Tigole Biddies.
>Hueheheue tittys.
Fuck them.
Easton Wood
>i remember in pthe past
You've shown countless times in this thread that you don't remember a damn thing. Stop LARPing as a boomer, zoomer.
Austin Cox
The fucking leper gnomes ? I'm done, you're clearly handicaped.
Do you need xpacs to play as a wabbit?
Benjamin Anderson
>frost/fire
elemental spec? hell yeah boy
Cameron Thomas
>but ret was still meh.
I'll never forget Valianos killings himself on Prince with seal of blood right after enfeeble
Ian Perry
You do, can't create a viera without owning Shadowbringers. You only need the base game and Shadowbringers to play the game in full though and there are CD keys for purchase off of places like greenmangaming or discounted ones from resellers. If you just want to tool in the character-creator there's a benchmark you can download.
Gavin Miller
Serves him right for playing BE haha I'm not jealous at all for SoB
Brayden Moore
>Spent the last 5 fucking years in college, paid by the government, (even i was getting paid for it)
>Free time up my ass
>Blizzard waited until i finally graduate, and got a proper career job to release Vanilla
WELL FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
Thomas Gonzalez
>The fucking leper gnomes?
Yes, the fucking leper gnomes. I remember a lot of them would hide in the houses where you couldn't see them. So if you approach the wrong one you suddenly have 4 or even 5 of them.
The best thing you could have done was pick of strays.
>You've shown countless times in this thread that you don't remember a damn thing.
Okay and how do I made that map with difficult places in durotar if I never played vanilla?
Lincoln Smith
For me, it's dwarf warrior.
Colton Walker
Your fucking map is 50% wrong
Justin Taylor
Absolutely correct. Imagine unironically playing a 15 year old game.
Chase Anderson
Those 5 people playing on private servers will definitely make a difference.
Isaac Williams
you niggers are dumb as fuck titanforging is one of the best systems they've made
doing the same raid for the 15th week in a row is boring as shit when all the loot is exactly the same every time
Dylan Parker
God damn i loved being a warlock
Jason Taylor
No its not. I mean was a long time ago but I think I did pinpoint every difficult part of durotar.
Bentley Fisher
>reeeee why do zombies have bones, I just want a green colored smaller human
Michael Rivera
Based. Request to make daily Yea Forums post with the calendar countdown wojak infront of iconic vanilla spots.
Zachary Adams
I remember playing a dwarf warrior and I was wearing a robe. Some other dwarf warrior went by and started scolding me.
That this is not the proper way how dwarven warriors dress themselves and that I bring shame to all dwarves.
Henry Bell
When are server lists being published?
Owen Brooks
Yea Forums doesn't raid, they avoid everyone, stay guildless until max level, exclusively do lfg/lfr, then complain that they have no friends and quit
Bentley Perez
As rotations. Situational spells are more important. Fucking subhuman retard.
Adrian Bell
>invest a few grand in stock market using dividend stocks
>have other companies pay you to play WoW
it's what I did, I suggest it!
Nathan Moore
>all of the retail/prots/ferals/balance/eles/enh who will be crying for buffs on the forums when they realize they made a mistake grinding to 60 on a special snowflake meme spec
I can’t wait to make a collage of all the angry whispers I get from denying them.
Benjamin Mitchell
based
Adrian Flores
retard
Luke Peterson
Somewhat related but I miss how you could have roleplay/in-universe interactions with people outside RP realms back in the day. Now RP is just mentally ill people writing UWU in chat and non-RP is muh world first selling boost x1000.
Jayden Morales
this
worked as a dishwasher for six months
all of that cash is in a 12% ETF
easy fucking life
Luke Johnson
>ele/enh asking for buffs
Don't mind me, just gonna shit all over people in PVP and once again be the most complained about class in the game.
Adrian Smith
Rotations are fucking retard. It's not any harder to memorize 3-4 spells in a specific order than it is to memorize 1 or 2. What is harder is to know the specific situations where you should use 30 different spells vs the specific situations where you should use 2-3 spells.
Alexander Roberts
>most complained about class in the game
Nah, that goes to paladins hands down. Not because they’re super underpowered or anything - holy is debatably the best healing spec in the game - but rather because ret/protPaladin players are whiny children that throw multiple tantrums per raid. Every shaman player I’ve met in 6 years of playing private servers has been super chill and down to earth
Landon Cruz
Imagine being so bad at the game that you can't spend 30 minutes farming a Savoury Deviate Delight recipe, and fishing some up to cook in your spare time for 100g over a couple days.
Jaxson Powell
yeah? well every shaman player i've ever played with as admitted to shitting his pants on a daily basis while every paladin player i've ever met does volunteer working providing low income housing
Oliver Bailey
>Dungeon finder is always implemented to be cross-servee, making befriending people you group up with pointless
This.
I actually connected with a rando in a group finder dungeon last week. The tank was being retarded and me and the healer bonded over laughing about it. He added me at the end, we chatted for a few minutes and said lets do another dungeon together sometime. I didn't see him on again all week, than I noticed that he was at the bottom of my friends list and I had to click a button to show me if he was online because he was from another server. MMO's aren't designed to create human interaction anymore. They want you solo or buying things off the real money store to show off to other solo players. It's sad, the golden age of mmo's will probably never return. :(
Luis Morales
ffxi classic servers when?
Angel Cooper
>be paladin
>die to every shaman ever in classic
Dominic Clark
Druid question
>tank, heal, dps and pvp in the same spec?
>just wanna enjoy every aspect of the game's content and run around fishing in enemy territory waters, wpvp/run away from ganks, and flag carry, hopefully get some raid gear down the line
>don't care about topping dps or healing meters, but still wanna do the best i can as the class
I just wanna play on ONE character. Will I be fine as a druid?
Kevin Myers
Yes.
But be prepared to take a lot of shit, peoples perspectives have been skewed with meter obsession and elitism. But druids are perfectly capable of taking on all roles as long as they are prepared to not be the best at any of them.
Andrew Martin
in classic you can specialize as one type of druid or do everything...suboptimal. Druids were close to mushrooms in classic so it was quite expensive to respect for different roles. Also finding druid tanking gear in classic was a lot of work. It wasn't too efficient and warriors had a great deal more skills to tank back then over druids.
Asher Watson
Alchemy, Tailoring, Blacksmithing or Leatherworking for my Shaman?
Carter Smith
*purges you*
psshhh.. nuffin personnel
Jackson Turner
alchemy of course
crafting profs are useless in vanilla except if you're a clothie
the chad combos once you're established at 60 are alch/engi or ench/engi
Carson Brown
He’s just anchoring people to content pessimism so that they’ll be ready to accept Classic+ content
You can sort of see it if you read between the lines
Easton Baker
Alch is very easy to level and the demand never drops. You can also take advantage of early flask prices or new content release for mad dosh. You probably won't get past the 200 wall for bs.
Liam Gonzalez
>even all my retail friends are looking forward to play classic
>they all think the commercialization and casualization of retail is what killed the game
Honestly I was blown away because my friends are casual normalfags. I haven't played retail for a long time but how fucking bad do you have to shit up your game that even normalfags hate it?
Brandon Howard
Should I also grab herbalism while leveling up to make alchemy life easier?
It sounds like I could make more money out of skinning without the trouble of having to fight for nodes, but I might be wrong here.
Aaron Murphy
make no mistake
every node will be a fight, even with phasing, if it's there, someone is moving towards it.
Benjamin Ramirez
You wouldn't sub to Super Mario Bros though. Classic won't have the continuous influx of new content that other MMOs have. It won't last. People will get bored and won't see the value in paying $15 a month for 15 year old content
William Flores
I'm talking about other players complaining about shamans because they can't handle being burst down in seconds.
Joseph Garcia
Yes you should, it wont be easy to find herbs but you will run into them over time.
Colton Mitchell
No. Druid is a healer that spams healing touch and that's it. The Dps Is absolute garbage too. If you don't want to heal and plan on not being shit don't roll Druid.
William Miller
>play FFXIV for "modern" MMOshit because modern WoW is cancer and modern FFXIV is actually good
>gunna play WoW Classic 2 weeks after launch so I can experience the glory of Vanilla without that fucktarded "sharding" shit.
Jack Baker
nobody was talking a word some time before lfg tool was added
the tool was just a formality to cement the cancer status, but not necessarily the sole culprit
Asher Adams
If spawn rates are correct and the server population isn't bananas (by whatever mean) herb will be very easy to level. Watch out for shitters that hog early nodes but give up afterwards. The first 80 points are annoying because of competition but the rest is easy as fuck.
Use to underused zone and roll in gold while 58483 lvlcm 34 phaggots gather std to death.
Rogues will ALWAYS need blindweed, you will always be able to sell a stack for some pocket change.
Daniel Jenkins
Most places I've looked including here seem to disagree with you.
Carter Butler
>Every single spec can get to 60 easily
>Every single spec is useful in dungeons since no one really cares about dungeons
>Raids are shit why would you even care
>People still spending every thread bitching about what is and isnt perfectly minmaxed
Josiah Hall
XIV has dungeon finder and I have not joined a single group where there isn't a greeting and farewell at the beginning and end of the dungeon. WoW is the problem not dungeon finders
Andrew Hall
Suit yourself. Just, when you're getting shit on in PvP and raids don't want you remember this. My good friend had a T2 Druid and ended up dropping it to roll a warrior. Never even leveled it through BC after.
Joshua Young
Based tranny avoiding streamer cancer servers where shit sharding will be gone quickly while e-celeb fags have to find the asmon layer eternally.
Friendly reminder to not forget your dilation period and HRT cycle.
Samuel Collins
FUCK i cannot fucking decide on orc or tauren shaman
WHAT DO Yea Forums
Evan Bailey
They can be good off-tanks. Their DPS is trash for raiding. Healing is a bit more than spamming healing touch but not much more. All of this doesn't matter because no one gives a shit unless you want to be in a top tier raiding guild.
Jose Nguyen
Undead/Human
Rogue
Combat Swords
Lincoln Stewart
Tauren are widely known to be the most chill race. Honestly its a shame they are on Horde side because they are chill for most horde players.
Jose Bennett
>crafting profs are useless in vanilla except if you're a clothie
the entirety of engineering? arcanite reaper? whitesoul helm? imperial plate set? not everybody is going straight into MC at 60
Connor James
>PVP
Motherfucker a geared druid literally shits on everything in PVP.
Sebastian Evans
I'm going to be a night elf rogue and mad stealth bonus and sneak into event faction cities like orgrimmar and ill ambush flagged lowbies waiting for zeppelin with a skinning knife and even if a lvl 60 hunter tracking invis ganks me my corpse run will be ez pz
Benjamin Turner
tier list for healing in wow classic
dwarf Priest > Paladin = other priests >>>>>>>>>shaman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>druid(innervate battery for other healers or instant rez for fuckups)
Jonathan Kelly
Oh yeah and skinning will destroy your bagspace early game, and as people are being told to pick up skinning while leveling the prices will probably be low. On the other hand people are now aware of free action potions and the speed ones and will be more than happy to buy some from you for their pvp montage.
Good old resistance pots when raids come out is also a classic, people never stock enough.
A shame he missed out TBC druid bullshit, shit was insane
Jaxson Evans
I don't mind spamming healing touch for hours on end.
As I said I don't care about topping meters. Seems like brez, innervate and MotW are reasons enough to bring at least 2 druids to a raid, or?
Carson Brooks
This and healing touch rank4 spam. Invest in charisma and get into guilds early and you'll raid without a sweat
Dominic Reed
in tbc yeh, or almost. in vanilla they get WORSE with gear, relatively
Parker Ward
you are correct, druids were basically buff bots heh. Reason why I say so is because I had to deal with it, as I only played druid and tried every spec during classic. So if they don't modify anything then most druids eventually just end up with a healing spec to conserve cash, and a pvp spec to annoy people. Depending on the pvp, you were almost immortal but you couldn't kill anyone either. Our only weakness is any smart paladin who would use the proper judgement so we couldn't run away and they could cleanse our roots so we would eventually flounder and be killed.
Mason Ramirez
Anyone still playing on SilverHand?
gettin lonely in here
Nolan Young
>has the largest and most mana efficient heal in the game, plus numerous HoT options
>buff bot
learn to precast
you can shit on any priest if you're good enough
Joshua Gray
Can someone explain to me why Thrall put up with warlocks in the horde? Weren't they to blame for the destruction of their homeworld?
Dylan Wilson
Thanks friend!
Ethan Rivera
I already know my character's name, what they look like, and class / race
Carson Evans
>playing on a server thatll be gone in 3 weeks
Noah James
guys.... will my shit laptop from 2010 run this?
Jonathan Jones
if you use no mods sure
Levi Thomas
Because Thrall used to be pragmatic, he knew ousting them would cause a whole lot of chaos and as long as they used those powers to help the Horde it was okay. Better the devil you know and all that/
Juan Williams
They were mainly in hiding, and/or generally reviled but not worth murdering in their own right.
Lucas Taylor
Who the fuck cares what some stupid retard nobody with a webcam thinks?
>B-but he played the game a long time :^(
So did I
You don't see me patting myself on the fucking back about it
Furthermore the less cancerous Twitchtards running around spamming POGGERS or whatever dumb shit they spout on that fucking site the better
I just want a comfy friend guild that raids now fuck off
Jack Stewart
Imagine paying for a 15-year-old game... And then those idiots wonder why modern games suck.
Ryder Collins
imagine paying for going to the movies when you can just pirate it 1 years later!
Imagine eating a hamburger when you can just take one out of the trash can!
Kevin Davis
So you're gonna be paying for vanilla WoW until when? 2020? 2050? Will you be slipping $20 bills under Bobby Kotick's gravestone? Really curious how far one's stupidity can go.
Mason Cox
Do you guys think we'll get a WotlK server eventually?
Vanilla can suck my dick.
Cameron Murphy
ya maybe in 4 years
Carter Ramirez
who said I would be paying for it? AT&T pays for mine with my 120 bucks a month in dividends.
Josiah Barnes
No. Wrath is too different from Classic/TBC. I can see them doing TBC in like 2-3 years, but I think they'll stop there.
Owen Moore
Dominic Morgan
dude...u were just cucked....dont embarrass yourself anymore lol
Brayden Gutierrez
I hope not since wrath was the worst expansion ever you fucking retard casual cunt
Ryder Hill
Server 18... Layer 43... Barrens... Asmongold Raid Group 4... Home...
Josiah Diaz
wrath was great...until the ages long jousting fair and the gated raiding
Asher Peterson
Yeah, he missed out. They got really good and fun in BC only recently played one on a private server
Jaxon Powell
No, it wasnt in any shape or form and you should stick to retail and single player RPGs you cuck
Levi Cox
>LFG
Get friends virgin
Andrew Rogers
Hahahahaha hey relax, just because you're a hardcore autist willing to grind level levels for 6 months doesn't mean everybody else has to be.
Joshua Jenkins
Au Ra
Dancer
wtf is a spec?
Jonathan Howard
samefag
Fuck off retail shill
Thomas Hernandez
>hardcore autist willing to grind level levels for 6 months
Difference between retailcucks and classic chads, classic chads play vanilla slowly, enjoy the experience, and are not grinding or rushing to any certain content. They can also socialise with people they meet and build communities since its an MMO and not a single player RPG.
Retail cucks need their achievements for validation and LFG because they cant talk to randoms and have no friends. You want WoW to be a casual buy-to-get to max level shitshow which is just a glorified single player RPG where you sometimes have people drop in/out to do all the work for you.
What sort of retard wants WotLK. You have retail, it is LITERALLY the same game with all the casual MMO killing shit tier features of WotLK.
And you're god damn right im mad you fucking cucks ruined WoW once and now you're going to ruin it again.
Nicholas Russell
Vanilla WoW is still super easy and hyper fast levelling to anyone that played Everquest.
You wouldnt know since you werent born then though...
Lincoln Powell
INV ASMON LAYER
Austin Perry
BTFO
Benjamin Martinez
i was in the beta it was a gret nostaslgia trip i probbaly well get to 60 and gank lowbies when im bored might do raq and nef but id be lying to you if i dint say when i got to 15 and all outdoors was
pack of murlocs
pack of troggs
pack of gnolls
go back to area kill x spiders
go back to area kill x bears
go back to area kill x koblods
is boring as fuck
Getting to 60 well only be double for me with friends
Joseph Gutierrez
Wearing full plate but having exposed bones is fucking retarded and you know it.
Isaiah Bell
Yea Forums has been infested with literal zoomers what actually listen to streamer trash for years. You can tell they are retarded because most of them will even tell you that these streamers literally didn't even play vanilla but they still value their opinion on it.
Lucas Taylor
Wasn't the beta super low pop with a total of like 300 players? Of course it sucks if it's dead and half of the players are fucking mouthbreathing streamers.
Tyler Roberts
>CLASSIC IS GOING TO DO SO WELL LOL GET OWNED RETAILFAGS
>W-W-W-WE ACTUALLY DON'T WANT IT TO DO WELL LESS TWITCH ZOOMERS HAHA WHO /COMFY/ HERE?
cope
Noah Campbell
Ahh yes, totally breaks my immersion that my UNDEAD warrior's, who fights alongside ORC WARLOCKS and TROLL SHAMANS, armor doesn't make sense...
Liam Moore
I didn't say anything about immersion I said it looks retarded. An Undead tank looks like a brittle little bitch next to an Orc and Tauren tank.
Jaxon Ortiz
The same thing im telling you since months in these threads.
Nobody actually cares about classic, its only nostalgia, people that actually care about it are only a few. Hype came, hype died.
People started to play classic and understood its shit, so they went back to make excuses like "Blizzard made the game easier!", despite them not being true just so they dont have to admit its just nostalgia and they dont care about the game.
If people actually cared about vanilla they'd allready be playing on privatserver since they are pretty much bugfree and blizzlike.
Elijah Adams
No you cope you fucking retard, what the fuck is this shit you're typing? A game's success is 100% dependent on fucking Twitch? Fuck off you underage little scrote, kill your fucking self
Henry Perez
yeah the only ones who got to 40 were streamer snipers/"fans" or streamers
I was still able to pick up groups for adventuring into gnoll/trogg territory for quest but it was incredibly dumb to complete a quest, go back to a questgiver complete it only to go back to the same damn place you went into to kill mobs you dont need and then have to kill mobs you do need and do the the same thing 2 more times until you get a item you cant even use
The quest gave good exp though
Nathan Thompson
seething, enjoy your classic experience bro. 12 months tops until it's closed
Levi Taylor
Matthew Bailey
A games success depends on its players.
The concept of nostalgiabait works on singleplayer games, but leveling to 30 till nostalgia is over and quit the game again doesnt work out for MMOS.
Camden Jenkins
>"seething"
Oh no a shitty meme response and some arrogant bullshit typed in entirely lower case, whatever shall I do?
So what? This game isn't for you.
Kayden Baker
>but leveling to 30 till nostalgia is over and quit the game again doesnt work out for MMOS.
Are you like ignoring that this was the game that knocked every MMO out of the park and made Blizzard hundreds of millions of dollars for years or something?
Jason Bailey
so you think they're just going to sell the same game and expect to make that money? LOL. is this your average wowfag? Whatever, you'll be buying $20 "classic" mounts in no time
Liam Perry
Paladins are the best single target healers and the best pvp healers. Arms warrior + holy paladin pocket healer is literally the rape train in vanilla pvp lmao.
Eli Phillips
The chad warrior vs the virgin stealth classes
Luke Bell
>So what? This game isn't for you.
ye, no. You dont fuckign tell me that.
I played classic on official servers, i even played classic on privat servers.
About 90% of the server left at around lvl 40 when their nostalgia was over. We even had to kick people out of our guilds because they bored us off with their dumb vanilla childhood storys, thinking that anyone of us cared.
Classic was the ONLY privatserver i played that died off underpopulations, no matter which server i joined. Mainly because of retards like you that keep yelling about how awesome it was with your childhood nostalgia.
IT WAS, time changes. Meanwhile there are a lot of better mmos than classic and classic is outdated.
One of the the reasons of vanillas success is because it was babys first mmo and mmos werent so widespread. But keep ignoring these facts.
Vanilla needs changes if it wants to be a success.
Angel Rivera
LOSERS LITTLE SAD BETAS IN HERE LOL ...... CRINGE...YACK
James Watson
windfury totem outweighs the entire paladin class, get a grip on reality please
Michael Fisher
The sub fee for classic and retail is the same fucking thing. What the fuck are you talking about selling it. A market is already there and the game's legacy speaks for itself, that is if you are over the age of fucking 15 right now, which honestly I doubt.
tl;dr
Basically yeah the game's not for you
Xavier Martinez
see u in asmon layer bro
David Jenkins
>People LIKE something? Pff, losers!
What a sad world you live in.
Nolan Miller
>Hehe I type in lowercase 'cus I wanna look cool and radical and because like proper grammar has a "negative thing" to it
Fuck off tryhard
Nathaniel Ortiz
Keep believing in your nostalgia shit, i dont care that much anyway.
I'm only here to collect all the seethe of the people once they cant deny reality anymore with their made up bullshit.
Classic WILL fail if it doesnt get some huge changes like
>additional content
>class balancing
>maybee graphical updates
etc.
Jaxson Stewart
lmao stop typing faggot
John James
>Vanilla needs changes if it wants to be a success.
What the fuck? Retail is right there you dumb fucking spastic
The whole point is to have the game as it was in 2004 as a 1:1 recreation. Why the hell are you treating this as like some brand new thing that Blizzard's future resides almost entirely upon? Go to Project 1999 and tell them how EverQuest needs to change you stupid fucktard and then be laughed out as they snidely show you the God damn door.
Benjamin Stewart
>HEH LMAO STOP TYPING FAGGOT HEH
Want to know how I know you're under 18? Because you try way too hard to fit into some bullshit Yea Forums mould you little snot-nosed shit
Logan Nguyen
Delusional. Paladins are literally the worst pocket healer.
Brandon Cruz
LOL
Nothing is better utility for pvp than freedom for warriors and BoP for casters. You are just wrong, despite the horde having better pvp racials they constantly are complaining about how paladins make the alliance op in pvp.
Liam Perry
>The whole point is to have the game as it was in 2004 as a 1:1 recreation.
Wont work.
>you dumb fucking spastic
I dont expect a low iq sperg to understand why so save your breath.
Andrew Lopez
I'm guessing you can't mod the modern client to prevent exploits but you can have addons
Dominic Ramirez
BoP and freedom are purged long before they ever become useful, don't be ridiculous
no shaman or priest is ever going to let you get either off
Hunter Hall
Imagine confusing TBC with Vanilla
Cooper Scott
>Wont work.
The fuck you mean it "won't work"?
Be honest you're just some kid who started playing a few years ago and has no fucking idea what the fuck she's talking about.
Classic WoW = Classic WoW.
Are you seriously going to judge the quote "success" of classic on Twitch views? Cancerous
Benjamin Butler
>alliance op in pvp
The only place alliance has ever had a chance was in AV because the map is so poorly balanced.
Henry Bailey
Lmao, just look at how agressive these WoWfags get when you tell them about reality. You cant make this shit up
Thomas Gray
>hey brotherman
>$100 bomb
where are the parents
Isaac Ward
>I'm so fucking awkward about myself that as soon as someone calls out my shallow lowercase typing persona I revert back to reality
Also surprise! People won't tolerate blatant incorrectness online, you reap what you sow, underage smelly loser.
Mason Roberts
I allready explained you that i played classic on official servers and classic on privatservers.
If you're at a point you have to imply things i've never said to prove your point you should just stop.
Cooper Hughes
nah fuck Blizzard. they hire dumbshit fucks
Samuel Jackson
I don't know what the fuck your point is, you just keep repeating your dumbfuck mantra about how classic as a project will "fail" because of some, what, I don't know, what? What? Blizzard is going to devote 2 years of dev time to re-releasing a game they already made and then what just shut it down after a year? Retard
Connor Diaz
ha
Joshua Harris
I allready explained my point, explained why i think so and backed my point up with my privat server storys.
You're jsut goind a hom, ignore every point i said and imply things i never said, which looks pretty pathetic and youtube comment section tier. With that you're allready admitting how wrong you are.
Adam Myers
1. I am talking premades and wpvp of hardcore guilds over world bosses not pugs, so the fact that the alliance ingeneral sucks at pvp is irrelevant.
2. horde players constantly complain that paladins are overpowered support in pvp and when alliance do the same about shamans its because someone one hit them with chain lighting, not to do with healing.
Maybe you are right and paladins are bad, but most horde players must just suck at the game then.
2.
Chase Taylor
>"get friends"
>plays wow
wow
Grayson Adams
>horde players constantly complain that paladins are overpowered support in pvp
In your head, maybe. But that's not reality.
Joshua Reed
The only thing paladins bring to the table is their self-bubble which prevents them from being taken out for an extra 10 seconds. Literally everything else they bring is just asking to go OOM from getting purged again and again.
Julian Davis
>Private server stories
So fucking what? That's not the same fucking thing. For one thing private servers are volatile as fuck:
>People quit because of overcrowding and lack of raid access
>The server is just a buggy guesswork at best
>The server gets DMCA'd
>The character they spend 100s of hours on is just an unofficial point of data on some east Euro's hard drive disk
>The point of entry is too complicated for most people + the illegality scares legit consumers away
Yeah no shit that a majority of people into classic won't give a shit about private servers, how the fuck does that translate as equal to an actual product produced and backed-up by the company that developed it in the first place, and which has a 100% cast-iron guarantee of no DMCAs and timely and professional bug fixes?
You're giving me a headache, go play Fortnite with your kid sister or whatever.
Nolan Fisher
Paladin healers never go oom
Jacob Rivera
>With that you're allready admitting how wrong you are.
Sorry what? Where? All I see is you being blown the fuck out.
Jason Morgan
T3 paladins in a raid environment don't go OOM.
Every other paladin does.
Just stop replying man, you're only embarrassing yourself.
Connor Gray
I am not autistic enough to find you examples, so I will leave it at that.
Paladin healers never go oom.
Justin Williams
Nice, again just made up shit. Go find more excuses. Maybee if you try hard enough you can believe your own shit.
Benjamin Thompson
If you're healing a raid in AQ40 gear sure. If you're in PVP you either go OOM or it means you're not actually supporting your warrior properly.
Andrew Butler
Unfortunately this website doesnt have a like button, you could like his ad hom arguments so you could tell yourself that what you`re pretending has a point.
Jason Martin
>Just stop replying man, you're only embarrassing yourself.
Why in the world would I be embarrassed to be wrong on an anonymous imageboard? I don't agree with you, I will stop replying if I feel like it. You probably play against paladins in pugs who are wearing dps gear and are ret spec and then think that is how a holy paladin plays. Holy paladins are overpowered in premade high end pvp.
Nolan Powell
>lmao if i keep saying that means its true!!!!
Get a grip.
This is my last response to you, you're not worth the time anymore.
Connor Ward
I believe you when you say you're embarrassed, but you should be for being so wrong.
Zachary Hernandez
>I TOLD HIM TO PLAY FORTNITE, I WON
Cant see the blow though.
Wyatt Thomas
Made up shit? I just listed every possible actual fucking reason that private servers are not the same thing as official ones you stupid melt.
You know at this point I'm pretty sure you're some kid who is too emotionally invested in wanting classic to fail for some odd, unspecified reason and won't even read posts that slap you into seeing the light.
Classic will only fail if it had a separate sub fee to retail, and it doesn't. If THAT was your point and we lived in some bizarro mirror image dimension of reality where it did in fact have two sub fees for the different versions I would agree, it's likely to fail, but that's not the case. What is your argument based on? The tired and beat-up private server scene. And what is your point? That classic needs more content. Well hell son there's an entire ruined game for you just like what you want and it's referred to as "retail". Go play that. Christ now just fuck off.
Jason Edwards
WTF BROS WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT MORE CONTENT INTO THIS GAME?!?!?!
Gabriel Parker
>I'm pretty sure you're some kid who is too emotionally invested in wanting classic to fail for some odd, unspecified reason
No, i want it to be a success. As i told you 20 times allready, i played classic on offi and privatservers.
I just dont want you nostalgia fucktards to ruin it with your "no changes" shit. You'll play the game till 40, leave again and find some dumb fucking excuses li8ke "blizzard made it to easy!"
Nicholas Hughes
I'm fully going Gnome lock. Dat int bonus, dat summon and healthstone, dat soulstone deathrun save. The only thing it can't do is look good. I'm gonna be such a dungeon slut.
Charles Sullivan
>You'll play the game till 40, leave again and find some dumb fucking excuses li8ke "blizzard made it to easy!"
Source: dude trust me lol I played a knock-off server
I played classic on pservers and when it was retail too, that's why I know you're fucking wrong
Carson Robinson
>If I keep saying its not true it wont be true
>You should be embarrassed
Lol I do not agree with you at all and I have explained why. If I am wrong its no skin off my back, since I will not be playing a paladin anyways and probably wont be playing alliance either. I can't imagine why someone would be embarrassed to be wrong on an anyomous image board to begin with anyway. Maybe I m not insecure enough to understand that perspective.
Aaron Carter
Then i assume you know that vanilla pservers added gearscore, added extradifficult because people said it was to easy and bored them etc.?
These changes came by the community itself.
>I played classic on pservers and when it was retail too
No, you fucking didnt. You allready said that Classic players including you dont care about privatservers. Just fucking stop allready.
Noah James
Why the fuck would they quit at 40 due to quote, "no content" when there's an additional 20 levels and like 3.5 raid tiers, 14 ranks of PvP, max level dungeons to clear, and random other shit to do with people? Might you be a retard?
Kevin Ramirez
Because dungeons in between leveling, like new lvl 20 dungeon etc would bring them something new to discover.
Aiden Barnes
>I can't imagine why someone would be embarrassed to be wrong on an anyomous image board to begin with anyway.
It's not that you're wrong. It's that you've been defending your factually wrong stance like some sort of short bus kid that can't understand basic concepts.
Hunter Parker
Did anybody say something about new tier sets and levels ?
Julian Bennett
>Then i assume you know that vanilla pservers added gearscore
No they didn't, what the fuck is this shit now?
>added extradifficult because people said it was to easy and bored them etc.?
NO, the reason there's a discrepancy between the official WoW classic client and pservers is because pserver programmers GUESSED ALL THE VALUES FOR SHIT AND THEY OVERESTIMATED BIG TIME
>These changes came by the community itself.
STOP PULLING SHIT OUT YOUR ASS
>No, you fucking didnt
YES I DID I STARTED IN 2006 YOU FUCKING TWAT
>You allready said that Classic players including you dont care about privatservers.
Now I KNOW you are being a stupid retard on purpose, STOP MISREADING MY FUCKING POSTS AND COMING TO STUPID FUCKING CONCLUSIONS
CHRIST I JUST SMASHED MY KEYBOARD
KILL YOURSELF
Jeremiah Sanchez
THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS "NEW CONTENT" TO YOU YOU STUPID FUCKER
For my own sanity I am now leaving this fucking thread, content that you will all be dead soon due to critical overabundance of radical stupidity
Go drown in a puddle of mankind's collective tears you fucking retard
Samuel Williams
How tiny is your 1 digint iq brain?
Is the possibility with new leveling dungeons that drop greens and blues, some new quest lines to hard for you to comprehend? How does a new dungon like deadmines 2.0 for 22 ruin your "classic experience"? It will just give people new content to discover so they ccan enjoy leveling up.
Jacob Morgan
I'm not pullign shit out of my ass, you can literally join a classic server right now and see that what im saying is right.
Josiah Gomez
I enjoy leveling. I got warrior to 60 on priv server like last week and never burned out because I never thought about endgame during leveling. just keep your mind on things you can do at your level or what you gain the next 2 levels. realize that doing deadmines is as real content as doing something like bwl, and that raidlogging is not really that fun.