The GAY DOUBLE STANDARD

>Arcade Gannon is a "good gay character" because he doesn't talk about being gay or his relationships that much
>But New Vegas has characters like Boone and Cass, who go on and on about their relationships
>Boone's entire quest is about him lamenting the death of his wife and getting revenge for it, while Cass talks about the men she's slept with and speaks in double entendres. Nobody is upset at either of them for this, though.
>If Arcade was like Boone or Cass (lamented the death of his husband, talks about all the men he's slept with) then people would complain about "forced diversity/gayness"
>Thus Arcade exposes the GAY DOUBLE STANDARD. It's okay for straight people to be open about their sexuality but it's bad for gay people to. Straight people aren't defined as "good or bad" characters solely on how open they are with their sexuality while gay people are.
>So ironically, you (the players) are actually the ones who are defining gay characters by their sexuality

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Oh god not this thread again

Honestly I just inherently dislike 99% of gay characters.

i just think he's a good character fuck you

He would be better if he was normal.

>>Arcade Gannon is a "good gay character" because he doesn't talk about being gay or his relationships that much
it's implied by this that he doesn't have many relationships, so there's not much to talk about
>>Boone's entire quest is about him lamenting the death of his wife and getting revenge for it, while Cass talks about the men she's slept with and speaks in double entendres. Nobody is upset at either of them for this, though.
boone's wife is dead he gets a free pass to talk about it and half of cass' character is that she's a whore, it'd be weird if she didn't talk about it

Because talking about heterosexual relationships is a normal thing most people do, while gays are creepy, weird and no one wants to hear about one dude plowing another dudes asshole or the dyke's latest bitchfit with her equally uninteresting slag.

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I hate fag characters because they come in two extremes. 1) Overly flamboyant and annoying. 2) Trying *way* too hard to seem "normal." Both suck, and need to go away.

>Boone's entire quest is about him lamenting the death of his wife and getting revenge for it
Revenge storylines are routinely shat on since they are the easiest to write

Yes, straight is the default in life, keep crying idiot

Being gay is a character trait, not a hair color, expanding on it is a hat on a hat

you can ask veronica about her relationships as soon as you recruit her and she immediately drops the fact that she's gay

I would fuck a ghoul.

Arcade Gaynon haha

You will hang one day.

>I haven't played New Vegas
Veronica

Why can't you be a good gay op?

kill yourself

But I thought Boone was cringey and cass was disgusting

If you can't tell the difference between mourning the loss of a loved one and talking about how much you love having dick coming in and out of your hairy manly asshole then I don't know how to help you, you're a retard beyond salvation.

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Get help

>dick coming in and out of your hairy manly asshole
Why is this the first thing that comes to your mind?

if you pick the lolimgay perk he hits on you a fuck ton

No it's the first thing coming out of my ass

I’m playing it right now for the first time. It’s buggy as hell but fun

wait, he's gay?

>uh, normalfag = good!
This is pretty funny considering that this board always bitches about normalfags ruining video games and how mass appeal and pandering to mass audiences is bad. I guess by your own logic all games should just be mobileshit too

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what about corporal betsy? she's open about it and I don't think anyone gives a shit

>It's okay for straight people to be open about their sexuality but it's bad for gay people to.
Yes, and?

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I mean, a huge part of Veronica's story has to do with her girlfriend. So, there's that.
But really having dudes who happen to be gay is just fine. Hell, even dudes talking about loving dick is fine. It just often feels forced because it kind of has to be.

Take Star Trek as an example. To have a full representative cast ethnically and racially and in terms of sex, you can just throw Uhura and Sulu on the bridge. Done, you can see a black woman and an asian man.
But to have a gay character, you HAVE to show Sulu with his husband, or he has to talk about his husband, or something like that. Which is why the trap isn't talking about sexuality, it's making the reveal the entirety of their personality. Gay Tony is a good gay character, Veronica and Gannon are good gay characters, that one guy from The Last of Us was a good gay character, and (shockingly) the gay wizard from the third Dragon Age game was a good gay character. There are plenty of others, too. The problem is when it's like that one guy whose only interactions are about his husband, which is just as shitty as Dom in Gears of War 2 just talking about his wife the entire fucking game.

Not that this isn't a shit thread, but hey, why not get deep into some analysis?

Because most faggots revolve love and relationships around the gay sex. My gay friends are always talking loudly about anal sex with their gay lovers and it's fucking annoying, anyone who's overly vocal about their sexual life is a fucking annoying faggot and since homosexuals are twice as louder it becomes completely insufferable.

Good writers make good characters. Bad writers make bad characters. All this other complaining is just window dressing for people who need to cry about something that offends them.

Then what about Cass? She goes on and on about the men she's fucked. Hell, what about Bayonetta? She's a completely sexual character.

We don't judge straight characters as good or bad based on how sexually explicit they are, but we judge gay characters that way. Why?

i dont remember cass talking about anything other than her love for whiskey and how she wanted revenge on the people who fucked with her caravan

Bayonetta is a virgin

also, kill promiscuous women and dump cumbrains in a ditch

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Cass is fucking annoying BECAUSE she can't stop talking about how much she loves dick, one dimensional characters are ALWAYS trash. And Bayonetta's game has sexual undertones to it's core themes (something that has always been closely related to demon and angel stories), so it doesn't feel hamfisted into it for the sake of it.

Came here to post this

>dump cumbrains in a ditch
BASED

Sure, but she's still a sexual character who speaks in double entendres and there is emphasis on the game on how sexually attractive she is. If a gay character was made like Bayonetta everyone would bitch

>this thread again

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being gay is not normal or acceptable in western culture, and that's because it goes against the main reason for being human
it's like someone choosing to be vegan in a hunting tribe just to be a dick

>implying I like Boone or Cass
Arcade is alright but for me it has to be Raul.

There is no double standard. Most people don't want gay shit just like they don't want detailed feces.

>larping about having gay friends

My man, it’s most normalized in western culture. Not saying that it’s okay though just an observation

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Strawmanning me is not an argument, you can deny the reality all you want and fight for your imaginary discovery of a double standard all you want. Just remember that you will get called out as many times as you do this shit fucking thread with the same correct arguments. So we will see how long can you delude yourself until you crack. Or get bored, depending on your intentions.

Yea Forums is probably the most npc site in its current state

larping about having gay friends ain't an argument either. Not the OP btw, you obsessed kek

Agreed. We should censor all sexually explicit games with anime tiddies, since they are forced sexuality (and not love).

What you say makes sense i guess but i still hate characters that do not shut up about their faggotry. Am i a faggot hater? I don't think so, i don't know.

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>larping
Okay then, tell me what makes you think it's a larp, I want to hear your reasoning behind this.
Do you simply not understand what HAMFISTED means? don't put shit in places where it doesn't fit.

How the hell are anime tiddies NOT hamfisted? Even weeaboos make fun or admit how much fanservice is in these games

If you want to be consistent then you have to follow the christcuck argument of "all sexuality is evil and degenerate"

First don't put words in my mouth, because my argument is far from a christcuck purity argument.
Anime games at it's core are full of fanservice, so it's no fucking surprise it's going to be full of boobs, ass, nude moments, and all those retarded tropes japan loves. IT FITS in fucking anime games.
Instead having an overly loud gay character constantly talking about his sexual preferences and how proud he is about them in a game that has nothing to do with that is a misfit, that character is fucking trash and it shows it only exists to pander to the gay community. It's not a character written to be a good character, it's a character written to pander to homosexuals and faggots. Therefore a bad written character because of his premise alone and doesn't fit with the rest of the game BECAUSE of that.

Is this shit so hard to understand for absolute retards like yourself?? fucking hell.

Keep posting this shit thread I will follow you until you quit crying pussy faggot.

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Boone gets a pass because motherfucker is just that cool. Not to say he gets fully fleshed out and his character questline easily leads up to an outcome that changes the story.