I regret wasting money on pic related, i started playing dmc1 and i want to know: Why did they make it so hard on easy...

It confuses me that i collect weird items, all I'm told are few short description from objects in rooms, I'm not aware what causes me to progress and why does enemies appear (do they respawn or do they just appear, because i triggered something), also
>just avoid damage
unless i have something like sidstep from bloodborne that executes almost instantly and works on almost everything i won't be able to avoid damage for long

Me neither but it's just a completely diferent style they went with and I can really see why it's some people's favorite. DMC1 is a horror/action game with light puzzles whereas DMC3 and onwards is pure action.

What's confusing? Where do you have difficulty problems exactly? Elaborate.

i really disagree, 3 has a better story, not as good enemies but better bosses
5's story is great (even though it seems kinda unfinished near the end) the bosses are fun (though not too memorable) and the enemies are the best since 1
i cant really think of much good to say about 4 since its kinda shit but the combats good
the only thing i can say i enjoyed more about 1 than the other games is probably ifrit/alastor and the atmosphere/music

Jump has i frames like dodge. It's your dedicated dodge button, use it.

>3 has a better story
I felt like 3 mostly rehashed 1's story, the only thing really new was Vergil
>not as good enemies but better bosses
Arkham is one of the worst bosses in the series, and the bosses in 3 overall rely too much on gimmicks like regenerating shields or going offscreen which gets annoying

3 story is not unique, but it executes family and responsibility quite well through 4 main characters and their interactions.

if its a rehash then its certainly presented better. i legit dont even remember much of 1's story, i only played through it once so its a bit of a fever dream so i'll take your word for it
arkham is garbage but i'd play vergil 3 over mundus any day

I didn't say that i don't like any other games besides bloodborne, but that bloodborne poses few exclusive qualities to it that makes me like it a lot, also how am i supposed to be supposed to be soulsborne fan if i hate ds1 and absolutely despise ds3

Yes, I am.

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Well if jump is supposed to be a dodge then it's shit and too slow to help me avoid damage

Unclear progression, slow combat, small amount of curatives and no telling what controls do

>It confuses me that i collect weird items
They're mostly just like keys to open the next door in a level, don't worry about it too much.

>all I'm told are few short description from objects in rooms, I'm not aware what causes me to progress
The levels are pretty short, so as long as you aren't going completely backwards for too long with nothing happening you should be making obvious progress.

>and why does enemies appear
They usually appear in new rooms, or after you've picked something up. And they just respawn in most areas if you go back to them, though not everywhere.

>Why did they make it so hard on easy?
You mean Normal, right user? You aren't actually playing easy mode, are you?

>Well if jump is supposed to be a dodge then it's shit and too slow to help me avoid damage
You also have a roll if you hold R1, then tap jump while moving left or right. But jump is great and I think it's mostly you not using it properly, or not giving yourself time to adjust because you expect it to be like Bloodborne.

>All i fucking wanted was game that is easier than bloodborne, but one that doesn't restrict my movements as much as most games do just like in bloodborne

This is the game you're looking for OP. It's also very cheap now.

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Because :
1. You like Bloodborne, a Soulsborne game
2. You put Bloodborne above the rest of videogames
3. When you (pointlessly) try to play another game you try to play it like Bloodborne
4. You immediately blamed the game itself even when millions of people around the globe played, finished and enjoyed it

All the odious characteristics of a Soulsborne fan.
Seriously, refund Devil May Cry and play Bloodborne again. Try a new build, a low level challenge, a PvP build, a no upgrade build, etcetera. Just don't waste our time and, most importantly, yours.

everytime you slash you're sword, swivel the movement analog. after every slash. no more endlag! thanks oxyclean

Of course that i play on easy. Why would i voluntarily torment myself?

I didn't expected it bo like bloodborne. All i wanted is one button that once pushed will perform quick straightforward dodge that will get me away from enemies.

1. Nioh is nothing like Soulsborne besides a couple gameplay mechanics
2. Recommending a Non-Soulsborne game to a Soulsborne fan is a waste of time.

>All i wanted is one button that once pushed will perform quick straightforward dodge that will get me away from enemies.
Jumping will do that if you push the stick in a direction away from enemies right before jumping.

If you want to play a game that plays like Bloodborne, then play Bloodborne.
Devil May Cry is a fundamentally different game. I personally found it (on normal) easier than Bloodborne, even on places like the Griphon and Nightmare fights.

How in the fuck you find this game confusing is beyond me. Hack 'n' Slashes are pretty straightforward. Don't get hit, perform sweet combos.

Use Trickster to start. It's a crutch, but the invincibility frames will help you out while you get used to how to position yourself properly during fights. Plus, at level three (takes a fucktonne of grinding), the triple dash will let you get pretty much anywhere you want to be in a room.
Launching enemies into the air and shooting the fuck out of them (or using air combos if decide to go for Swordmaster) is also a good way to putting some distance between you and the melee enemies and getting some damage in.

Imagine being this bad a refusing to get better

>I'm a retard
>I compare Bloodborne with DMC 1
Yeah you are a fucking retard, expecting games to have similar controls. Get good nigger.

He's playing dmc1 user.

I don't put bloodborne over the rest of games (it has it's own fair share of trash in it like chalice dungeons), my favourite is Witcher 3. I don't try to play ever game like bloodborne. And no I won't replay Bloodborne simply, because replaying games isn't fun and it's just repetitive.

Wait so i also have to move analog in certain ways to change the way dante hits? What a bullshit? How am i even supposed to have attention for that?

Nioh can go fuck itself due how much bullshit like heavy stamina management and bloated enemies/bosses it has

He's talking about 1, not 3

>Wait so i also have to move analog in certain ways to change the way dante hits?
No, he's telling you to use an animation cancelling glitch. Don't do that though, it trivializes combat.

It's called rolling faggot. God damn at least TRY to play the game before complaining.

Uh oh, I'm retarded.

Heh. I knew you were a retard.

Man, Soulsborne really did a number on the current generation of gamers.

>Wait so i also have to move analog in certain ways to change the way dante hits? What a bullshit? How am i even supposed to have attention for that?
Not really no. But there is an element of timing to your attacks. Like slash > slash > pause > slash mash, you get the idea
oh you're right, stay ignorant to underlying mechanics forever, intentional or not. don't utilize everything to your advantage, great idea

DMC HD collection, it means DMC3 HD, because is the only good game good in that pack. DMC 1 have aged like shit but DMC3 is kino, you mist play it. Then 4 and 5

When I played 1 I never used the dodge. I don't know if it was a controller issue or my own retardation but it never worked. I just jumped like a madman while shooting to stagger enemies so I could put distance between us.

>oh you're right, stay ignorant to underlying mechanics forever, intentional or not. don't utilize everything to your advantage, great idea
They are glitches that just completely break the combat. You can go through the entire game with grenade rolling, but would you really enjoy it?

I tried and all i got was confusion and a bit frustration

Jump is generally better for dodging. But dodge helps cancel recovery animation of grenade launcher.

>paying for free shit
>paying for rehashed free shit that was a cash in in the first place
You deserve to lose your money and suffer.

Ha! Told you

How retarded are you user? Just stop trying.

Why would i want play dmc3 if dmc1 already gave me convulsions?

Play DMC2, it has dedicated dodge button like you want. Be like Lobos.

>DMC3 HD, because is the only good game good in that pack. DMC 1 have aged like shit but DMC3 is kino
"i played 3 before 1 and couldn't adjust to 1"

I never used any ranged weapons besides the guns.

>You can go through the entire game with grenade rolling, but would you really enjoy it?
I might utilize it in a section where it's needed, yes. But that's the thing, you learn these tricks and apply them where you see fit for best results. DMC1's combat is an absolute cheesefest anyway, it's all about getting the fight over as quick as possible. Dante's toolkit is OP as all everliving fuck. You're not playing for combos here and linking shit together. More building Devil Trigger then nutting on nobodies faces with infernos.

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You're sort of right, but I still find each Alastor combo to have a particular use, and you'll miss out on learning that if you're just abusing the animation cancelling. It's not as combo focused as later games but you can still do a lot of cool stuff that's actually fun and useful.

Like you said, it has it's particular use. Just because you can abuse animations doesn't mean you can't find a happy medium between style and tryharding.

I might try it.. i heard dmc2 is supposedly easiest of the series

Knock yourself out. And I mean that literally because this piece of shit is so boring it'll put you to sleep.

>Just because you can abuse animations doesn't mean you can't find a happy medium between style and tryharding.
True, it just seems like some people can't stop themselves from overdoing it. Like some people in these threads complain the game is too easy and grenade launcher is overpowered, because they never stopped to think they were using a glitch to stop the recoil from it. I just usually don't point out that stuff in the combat system to new players so they don't rely it on it as a crutch and figure it out for themselves as they get better.

>Soulsbaby can't handle NioH's Ki system.

Not surprising. Like the other user said just stop. People like you are never going to appreciate anything games like DMC/Bayo/NG do, or even NioH, because you are so set in your "WELL, BUT IN SOULSBORBE" mentality. Just get a refund and move on. This genre is not for you.

Seems for me fitting for people like OP. I mean Lobos said it's better than DMC3.

>better than DMC3
You’re joking

Can't tell if 14 yo or just a reddit retarded

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I have no idea who Lobos is but thanks for the warning, if I ever see his name somewhere I'll be sure not to read or listen a single word of what the retard has to say about anything.

>actually playing DMC1
Common rookie mistake, you see the pro-move you gotta do is jump straight to 3, 4, and 5
only play DmC if you get bored

>game that is easier than bloodborne
You'll be hard-pressed to find that.
Fromsoft games are known for being notoriously easy even a literal retard will be able to beat them but create an impression of being "hard".
Bloodborne is literally the easiest of their modern games, I don't know how you're supposed to go easier than that.

I'm not. He genuinely liked it better because it had dedicated dodge button. You think he cared about all options DMC3 gives you? He only spammed Rebellion's triple combo and stinger the whole game.

>skipping the best game in the series

>Like some people in these threads complain the game is too easy
I feel like normal is too easy, but i'm pretty sure most give up before bothering with hard. I don't even like the New Game Plus element in this game in particular either with how powerful you end up by the end. Every run should be fresh and back to the basics. It doesn't take long to ramp and you get all the orbs needed in a singular playthrough. just wish mission 1 on DMD was more manageable though because that's a flaw in my logic.

Lucia is a shit waifu user, move on

Jesus Christ, he sounds like a huge faggot.

That's what happens to your brain when you play only soulsborne for years.

Jokes on you, I finished 1. Is literally easy as fuck except in some Griffoth fights due to the camera

Because is better?????????????
Also ignores DMCfags, they’re usually obnoxious faggots but at least they have good taste

He complained that there are cutscenes in the game. I'm not even joking. Everybody who watched his playthrough called him an idiot for using the basic rebellion combo the entire game.

I'm a Soulsbabby and I had no trouble with Nioh's ki management. If fact I think ki pulse is the greatest idea ever.

Lmao shut the fuck up zoomer. 3 is the only one that comes close, yet it tunnelvisioned on combos so much that DMD went from challenging to tedious because regular mobs became dummies with loads of health to justify all the SSS combos.

>Why did they make it so hard on easy?
You actually played on easy?

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I didn't say you didn't finish it. I'm guessing you also never played past normal, and 1 is pretty much the only game that does DMD right.

yea but its more fun so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, DMD in 1 is great. If I remember correctly, enemies have less hp on DMD than on hard there (before they DT). Fuck Nightmare 3 though.

Legit question: why are rabid Soulsborne fags like this? I like the games but I’m not dumb enough to limit myself to just one set of games over and over again. Are they seriously that afraid of trying out new things?

Git gud.

You're joking. No way are you playing a DMC game on easy.

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In soulsborne you just try to win, weapons have like 10 attacks each in total and most efficient way is to spam R1 usually. When they move to DMC, they don't give a fuck about tons of attacks game gives you or style meter because it's not needed to beat the game.

dmc1 sucks ass, just play dmc3

I hate stamina management in every game especially ds1 and ds3. What's so different about it in nioh that it would make me want it?

>When they move to DMC, they don't give a fuck about tons of attacks game gives you or style meter because it's not needed to beat the game.
But that’s just boring as fuck. For me, a lot of the fun of DMC comes from combining new ways to style on foes for the best ranking possible.

Yes, I fucking did and it still wasn't easy

It really isnt, imagine if you played fighting games but only touched training mode and never played against someone else. That's DMC 3-5.

yea but its fun

Start playing on normal again. Doesn't DMC1 have an auto-combo on easy? Sounds like it could actually be harder if you can't choose which combo you want to do.

It's not practical enough for them to bother when you can just beat enemies with basic rebellion combo too. One thing I really liked in DMC5 is that you need SSS rank to activate quadruple S which gives even people like them reason to remember about style meter. Those people shouldn't bother with DMC at all though.

>harder equals more fun
I'd take 3-5s mindless combos over 1's boring slog of a campaign any day

this is why people who say that the souls games are the hardest games ever made lmao

jesus fucking christ this is pathetic

This is the most zoomer thread I’ve ever seen on Yea Forums

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The thing that gets me the most about this thread is how the majority of Souls and BB fans agree that the gameplay on those games is shit, that they only played them for the lore and atmosphere, and they cite DMC as an example of a game series with actual good combat.

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I wouldn’t necessarily say that those games are shit. I still had fun playing through those and they’re generally a different style of gameplay. That said, Soulsbabbies who only play those and nothing else are lame as fuck.

Zoomers ITT shitting on DMC1 and praising incomplete garbage DMC4.

Why in hell would i want it to be harder? Also yes I'm displeased that I don't have full control over what dante does

I can't tell if this thread is bait or OP is honestly retarded. 5/10, if the prior is true.

it started as a resident evil game so you have some light elements from it
just look around the environment and remember when you see something, surely it's not as hard as bloodborne, but I guess in that game you can progress eventually as long as you keep going
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Do you have auto combo on? The fuck.

I enjoyed dmc 4. But goddamn Is Nero a little bitch.. I miss Dante only games most of all. I started with 2 (actually thought it was fun but I was young and dumb) then went on to 3 and goddamn it’s still my favorite game of all time.
I guess the series was kinda backed into a corner from the beginning when the first one ended with Dante defeated literally the strongest demon in the underworld

>It’s another let’s compare DMC games to Fromsoftware games episode.
You asshats really need to fucking stop.

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play it on normal or stop playing it, easy chooses your combos for you
you can learn and get better if you really wanted to user, I'll teach you

I really hope you're just pretending to be retarded.

So long as Itsuno continues to make DMC games, he'll always shill his OC.

>I guess the series was kinda backed into a corner from the beginning when the first one ended with Dante defeated literally the strongest demon in the underworld
He only sent him back, even Dante said Mundus would return at some point along with other demons still threatening Earth. I kind of wish a DMC game would've taken a slightly cyberpunk twist, it was the only thing DmC did that I actually liked. Could've given a reason for Dante to struggle against a new threat.

It's not hard to come up with an adventure after the events of DMC1. The reason the new team sucked is because they didn't play a role in Dante's creation. They don't know shit about the character and how to continue his story. So they made a prequel then made Nero

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yeah, DMC1 dante is basically a different character to every other dante
I do like both, but I wish we got DMC1 dante back

Well itsuno is probably done and tired of dmc by now. Dmc 5 was him making up for DmC, same reason for him putting his all into dmc 3 after dmc 2 shit the bed. God I love that man, full homo.
It would have been cool but I would miss the gothic atmosphere . And you’re right I just remembered dante talking about mundus returning in the end.. itsuno is probably done now though and if a new developer steps and the series continues its unlikely Dante will take the spotlight again. I’ve come to terms with it, itsuno blessed us with dmc 3 so I can’t complain

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>because replaying games isn't fun and it's just repetitive
so this is the state of modern Yea Forums huh

>because replaying games isn't fun and it's just repetitive.
Only if the game is shallow. If the game actually has some depth to it, then you'll still find or learn new things on a second playthrough.

there is a nother sky

is fair, always above our head no different

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>Well itsuno is probably done and tired of dmc by now.

Great news. Let's hope who ever takes his place puts Dante as the main character alongside goodie two shoe mommy boy Vergil.

I'm sick of being forced to play as 1 or 2 characters before i get to play Dante. And I'm also sick of Vergil only being playable in SE. Fuck off Capcom

>It would have been cool but I would miss the gothic atmosphere
Some games with scifi elements can feel similar. Gothic and darker scifi can kind of overlap a bit. If it had an atmosphere like Quake or System Shock 2, I think it would still be good.

Jumping has invincibility frames on the way up. Use that to your advantage.

>main character alongside goodie two shoe mommy boy Vergil.
>And I'm also sick of Vergil only being playable in SE.
my nig

I don't like the sci-fi overlapping too much myself. I wished the series stayed in one place in time and feel like we explored that instead of jumping all the fuck over. Closest we get is the anime. Look at Dante's equipment, he's a fan of vintage antiquity, from his jukebox, to his phone.

From what i know auto combo is forced if you choose easy mode in dmc1

What the fuck

I wouldn't want the entire setting to go scifi, mostly just related to what the bad guy is doing/using. It would be better than just putting Vergil or Mundus in again.

You're going to get Mundus someday, no point delaying the inevitable

Lobos is a ummm.... soulsborne speed runner for one. So that means he likes functional gameplay over curazzzhey ala dmc3/bayonetta shit and dmc1 has a mix of both. He also shit all over Dante’s character in dmc 3 (although he is suppose to be young and dumb and matured in the end, but I digress).
The genre just ain’t his bag honestly

Yeah I get it. Wouldn't be so out of place anymore with Nero's robo arms and shit. Dark backgrounds with some neon aesthetics, I always imagined would work with the series in someway though. Remember that adult feel to neon signs?

Speedrunners are mentally ill people so their opinions are not worth listening.

OP must be baiting. I can't believe someone this retarded actually exist.

Didn't even know that because I've never played on easy.

I know it's hard for zoomers, but you have to actually use that brain a little and git gud. Shocking, I know.

>boss battle turns game into an on rails shooter
that sounds badass, damn I need to pick this game back up

It's actually terrible. Your character is the firing reticule but the boss also shoots in a straight line towards you most of the time, so you have to be in the line of fire to do damage and luck out on not getting shot too.

DMC1 and Bayonetta 1 both have little problems that make them shitty compared to 3 and 2 respectively. I don't know if it's because Kamiya is a retard or just a coincidence.

It's fucking awful because it controls like shit. You WILL hate it when you get to it.

>if it's because Kamiya is a retard
Definitely this one, he likes to put gimmicky sections in his games. Thank god the rest of the team convinced him not to put QTEs in DMC1.

Dmc 1 is resident evil with swords. Ofcourse it plays like shit

On paper it sounds sick. But holy shit you'll hate it and you'll never go back to it once it's done.

Buy loads of Devil Stars and spam Dragon.

this

>dmc1 and i want to know: Why did they make it so hard on easy?
Wait until you play 3 and get the "easy mode is selectable", and be greatful that they tonned down the difficulty.

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It's just the final boss that's like this though

The rest of the game is pretty fun and is excusable for some jank since it literally invented the subgenre it's in.

>so you have to be in the line of fire to do damage and luck out on not getting shot too.
I've done the space harrier section without taking damage even on DMD with the huge health bar. You just need to keep moving. I actually find it fun, all the dodging and throwing dragons at Mundus is pretty badass.

>Why did they make it so hard on easy

they didn't you just suck zoomerfaggot
Games back then used to be hard by default, but then cinematics shit hit the industry so now you have easy games so it can be easier to progress and experience the story.

Why do you think this game and many other old games had a ranking system?
why do most games nowadays got rid of ranking/score system?

The game isnt hard, you just grew up playing easy games zoomer

I felt like DMC3 was slightly easier on normal than DMC1 (talking about toned down DMC3).

I didn't say it was impossible, just miserable

I got used to the Mako in Mass Effect and enjoy using it now, but I'm not going to pretend it's not objectively shit.

Don't listen to these fucking casuals, Mundus 1 controls fine. I bet these fucking mouth-breathers didn't even know you can Vortex through nearly everything he throws at you. The Mundus 1 fight controls as well as you can hope for. Your shoot button shoots DT runes at Mundus, your melee button uses a melee specific move to help get you through attacks, and your DT button lets you DT to hit him with a giant demon dragon. They probably got ass pained about inverted controls too.

Asking your modern DMC fan anything about DMC1 is a fruitless endeavor.

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>OP basically says he doesn't like Bloodborne
>MUH SOULSBOURNE SHITTERS
rent free

DMC3 has Trickster, a crutch Style. It's easier in the beginning than DMC1.

>Why did they make it so hard on easy?
Because boomers weren't bitches when they were your age.

I dunno. I feel the same way about it as I do the swimming sections. You get a button to quickturn while swimming, and a button to move faster while flying, and I think not utilizing those buttons is why people say those sections suck, because not using them makes it feel sluggish. Once you get used to the different controls and use those buttons, it feels good to me.

>I don't understand why Soulsborne fans bother with not Soulsborne games when they're unable to enjoy not Soulsborne games.

You can take this statement and switch "Soulsborne" with "Devil May Cry" and it would be 100% accurate when DMCfags try and play other action game IPs.

>It's shit because you don't know how to play it
>Except if you over look the shit part
The only moment that almost made me drop the game.

Look at this faggot defending Mundus 1.

>defending Mundus
Jesus
Don't tell me you liked Jubeleus fight

Read the thread; that statement ended being 100% correct.

It's okay user, I like Mundus 1 too. I think the problem is that you're given this new control scheme without much time to really get used to it unless you replay the game multiple times. Like with the swimming sections, you get a button to turn faster, and once you really start using it you can move pretty quickly and it feels fine. But I think most people don't use it, so they're just turning slowly the entire time which makes it feel slow and clunky. Same with Mundus 1, if you're not using the button to fly faster and Vortex to go through the rocks he throws and hit him as he flies by, you're just slowly moving around the screen firing at him without doing much else.

It's funny though, what I've noticed is that longterm "fans" of the series will be more likely to shit on DMC1 and say you should just skip to 3, but people who are just getting into the series after 5's announcement and are playing the games in order will praise DMC1 for what it does differently and be able to tell it's unique compared to later titles.

>but better bosses
>5's story is great

Bullshit

People here said it controls like shit, it doesn't. All you faggots got filtered by inverted controls and your inability to explore buttons on your controller.

Mundus 1 is an infinitely better fight than this pile of fucking trash.

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>t. Filtered by based Phantom

DMC1 is kino, and I say that as a zoomer. Played it for the first time this year and it still holds up perfectly, even if it is kind of clunky. S-ranked every mission on DMD too

You realize DMC1 came out almost 20 years ago right user? Of course its going to feel clunky in places compared to all the games it inspired and of course later games in the DMC series itself.

Pay Ninja Gaiden OP. It has a dedicated doge button like bloodbourne and it's an easier game than DMC. You'll fit right in.

Was DMC1 the first action game you played?

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The problem with Mundus 1 isn't the controls.
What makes that fight garbage is it changing the entire gameplay up to that point (aquatic parts aside) and making it annoyingly hard.
I'm playing is Devil May Cry, a hack and slash game, not faggot space adventure in space.

I will never, ever defend that fight.

It also has a dedicated *dodge button like *bloodborne

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>5's story is great
It makes DMC1's look like a materpiece.

Best first boss in DMC. Wrecking zoomers for years to come.

Would aerial combos work in a Soulsborne game?

At first I was sad that Phantom didn't make it to 5 but it makes sense that he's too much of an asshole to work with V

Good man

>mechaics

unintentional jank glitches are not mechanics you mong

Fuck off zoomer

SBFP came up with headcanon I prefer by saying Phantom wasn't in 5 because he left the franchise to team up with Bayonetta.

Same. I loved DMC3 but 4 & 5 just don't feel the same and I'm ready for someone else to take his place.

Why are you watching speedrun autismos? Not just that but SoulsShit speedrun autismos, the worst kind there is. Why is this person treated as being any sort of authority on anything?

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It's the opposite of funf

Reminds me of a certain fanbase :^)

>Every single blind LP of DMC game on youtube is some souls fag spamming the basic combo from start to finish
>No LPs of NG whatsoever

It's all so tiresome.

rekt

At least some of you actually play DMC1 to the end of DMD. Most mash normal and shelve it forever.

>DMC1 is kino
No, it's a game, you retard.

bloodborne is literally a dark souls game, they're just 3d metroidvanias and fun

I like that DMC rewarded you for not using the same combo over and over. VtMB actually did the same thing with its melee system, and though VtMB's melee isn't as polished and deep as DMC's I still find it fun and kind of similar.

There's nothing quite as disgusting as DMC CAWMBObrain zoomers hating on the first game.

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The Soulsborne fanbase is controlled by three e-celebs: Matthewmathosis, Vaatividya and Lobos.
They tell the Soulsborne fans what to think and the fans obey.

It's creepy and disturbing.

I wonder how many of them are even actually doing anything close to what you see in a combo video.

>Phantom was so mad about being in 2 that he left the series
Makes sense

That's some deep ass lore

Something's fucky here, the only DMC that's confusing is DMC2 with its open, empty areas and unclear combat progress.
As for difficulty, I'm fairly sure if you use the right tools against the right enemy it shouldn't be that difficult. If you're just mindlessly slashing or shooting away you'll have trouble but that's less on the game and more your reluctance to figure out what among your arsenal works best against what you're up against.

Read the thread. Op's beef is that DMC doesn't play exactly the same as BB, down to one button to side dodge.
So, instead of wasting time with his stupidity people made this thread a general DMC thread.

He's right, you're all massive faggits

>i hate souls series

Eat shit and die please

Guaranteed to be none. Also guaranteed that 70% of the people here did not play DMD and 90% of those that did only did it once.

>Soulsbabbies who only play those and nothing else are lame as fuck
I have a hard time believing this is even a thing since souls is one of the least entry level series in the modern market but then again I guess the memecal le prepare to die culture made them popular enough for idiots to start playing them

It is.
Most of Soulsborne players were unable to move on. That's why we have this thread. Or those regular threads where people laments that there isn't nothing to play besides Dark Souls. Or those regular threads where people reminisce about their first Dark Souls playtthrought with the same melancholy someone remembers his dead spouse.
Pathetic as fuck if you ask me. I liked those games but come on

A lot of zoomers don't even play them, they just watch streamers playing them on twitch all day and then pretend to be hardcore gamers while repeating what those streamers said.

>Of course that i play on easy

OH NO NO NO NO

Fuck off, garbage series like dark souls deserves to be trashed

The fuck does dmc have to do with Bloodborne???????

Oh i know. Back when DaS2 released i was watching one of the former e-celebs stream gameplay early to see if the game interested me or not, i think the guy was called Peeve or something to that effect, a lot of e-celebs sprung out from those games, i know he was pat of some souls shit e-celeb group. Anyway, on that very stream, that one guy decided basically on his own what the PVP level cap meta was gonna be for the game, and i remember specifically that his only blatant reasoning was that it was the level at which his dark buffed katana build felt "complete". Lo and behold, the whole of the community just follows along with this one faggot and the meta is set at like 100 levels below what it should actually be and buffed katanas is the broken meta and everyone just dies in 3 hits. This shit always stuck with me, it opened my eyes and you can now find many examples of similar herd behavior in other games.

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dark souls invented action games duhhhh

You can absolutely mash your way brainlessly through all DMC games on normal. DMC1 bosses on normal are hilarious, just turn on Devil Trigger and literally face tank while mashing,

Why would i want to play on high difficulty? There is absolutely no fun in challenge and in overcoming it

You must be living under a rock. Dark Souls has been literally Facebook tier since the first game came to PC and those people not only exist but they are plenty and loud about it.

DMC is the Dark Souls of Soulslike games.

You need to turn your brain on a bit against phantom and nightmare, attacking them wherever head on won't work. Not that they're hard, but still.

Lobos is a turbo autist, who gives a fuck.

Why do all you fall for such obvious bait?

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>phantom

No, you can legit facetank phantom with DT and mashing, The damage is obscene while you heal through his and interrupt attacks. All brainlets need to do is figure out that DT exists and the head is the weakspot.

Nelo Angelo is the most hilarious, he gets parried and guard broken non stop.

Yeah it's called difficulty scaling. That shot won't work on DMD.

>Normal Difficulty
>High

*WHEEZE*
LOOK AT THIS DOOD

>>OP basically says he doesn't like Bloodborne
Are you blind? Did you fail every reading comprehension exam in school?

There is no bait here, dear poodle.
OP is legitimately an imbecile.

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Yea Forums is not nearly as smart as you think

>All brainlets need to do is figure out that DT exists and the head is the weakspot
I just jumped on his back

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DT is pretty limited early on, and you'll still go down in just a few hits if you keep trying to mash without it

I did that too the first time because i either saw some footage of it on tv or the demo on the start screen, forgot which one. It's hard to do though because the camera angles and hitbox on his legs just makes you bounce off them.

If you wanted good gameplay, you should have played a real man's game

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It's not hard. In fact it is very basic, the first of them all, in fact, so if you think it's confusing you might be overthink it. It's an RE game, most of its functions are made to accomodate you having to hold on to the lock-on. This game is easy as hell compared to the original US release.

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The games have some similarities. Gothic setting, strange creatures, atmosphere, stuff like that. DMC has far less content since it is far older but I can see why someone would like both games.

Considering this is Yea Forums i refuse to believe most people on these threads, especially post 3 zoomers, ever beat Vergil 3 on DMD or beat him more than once. This is the place where every minor thing gets blown out of proportion but Vergil 3 gets nothing but blank praise despite being a cheap boss with RNG elements to boot? Nah, does not compute.

>LMAO just RG perfect block
This is larping.

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The fuck are you on? It's generally agreed 3's DMD is the worst in the series.

git gud_______________________

>DMD is the same across all versions
>only marginal enemy health and damage dealt differences

WOW it's literally nothing.

People say 3's DMD sucks and also that it has some of the worst bosses overall.

That is true but it's not talking about bosses. It's talking about the regular enemies. It especially is not talking about Vergil 3. Also "people" don't say that, like 3 people say that including me.

yakuza is the biggest fucking joke in gaming and the fanbase have no idea

>enemies are literally just standing in place making no attacks
>cinematic slow motion
no

>and the fanbase have no idea

It's a Japanese soap opera also featuring retarded beat 'em up pocket dimensions, arcade games, karaoke rhythm games, and nonsensical plots.

The fans are the most aware of it being a joke.

Found the larper

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And it’s still better than 99% of western releases.. hmmmmmm

Because you're a casual 12 year old fuckwit and that's all you deserve to be called here.Don't even bother trying to convince us otherwise

I say it all the time, I say DMC3's DMD balance is shit that includes both enemies and bosses. Mission 5, Mission 12, and Mission 15 on DMD are some of the most unfun slogs of shit I've ever done in a video game.

Forgot to add Mission 19. Arkham is legitimately one of the worst bosses ever made.

I don't think Vergil 3 is shit. He's cheap and has RNG but that does not necessarily mean bad. Being forced to meme attacks for damage that sticks is shit though.

I don't remember missions by the title number. Basically any mission with even a single Enigma on it is automatically shit, that mission with the unstable reactor is shit because of that one room.

Unstable reactor is Mission 12, same mission with Geryon boss.

I have been mocked in the past for not getting emotional during some of "the great" films and tv shows out there. (I'm a little autistic) But Yakuza and anime can make me emotional because the writing is melodramatic and it's always very clear what I should be feeling. The music helps, but mostly I like that the characters all say clearly how they are feeling and what they are thinking. This helps me understand them and I can feel myself getting emotional from the sad parts.

most dmcfags i've talked to are pretty chill and enjoy a variety of action games, NG fags are definitely the most autistic of the bunch

DMC was dead for a very long time. The fanbase ended up playing other games in the genre to fill the void.

You MUST be new.

Just skip to DMC3 retard. That's what LITERALLY everyone else did.

Nope. Enter any DMC thread and mention other action game IPs, if they have knowledge it's at best surface level.

>literally proves him right in his own post

Good job you fucking retard.

That's not what you see when you engage with them, at least not on this board.

>Daily NO OUTSIDERS WELCOME Boogeyman witch hunts
>Pretty chill
>Enjoy variety of action games

LMAO

also rent free

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>Enter any DMC thread and mention other action game IPs
What kind of dumb criteria is this?
Someone not derailing the thread to go into another topic in depth isn't an indication of not being able to enjoy or play it.
It's basic thread etiquette, which you're clearly incapable of.

Besides your argument was immediately invalidated by visible evidence of what proposed. Go to most DMC youtuber channels and during the hiatus after DMC4 and its SE you'll see those like Donguri playing Nier, Bayo or whatever else
>Inb4 D-donguri isn't your typical DMCfag, exception, not rule!
Yeah, yeah, he's just the most easily visible example. There are others you'd likely just dismiss as not important if namedropped, the point is they all have the trend of having previously occupied themselves with other titles and still keeping up that practice. Hell the original "crazy games" generals are further evidence since they opened their doors to a wide plethora of action games. You're not going to say those other generals doing the same for DMC.

When the Soulsborne tide grew most channels who were riding it before are still circling that drain.

And now you'll likely switch gears and say if there's nothing wrong with DMC threads sticking to their topic, neither is there with others, failing to recall this entire argument stemmed from OP's puzzling supposition that action games, even ones made prior fucking Demon Souls, would be Soulsborne derivatives. That's where the original poster's remark took off.

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NGfag please stop baiting.

>which he starts himself and blames "dmcfags"

Where's the bait?

It's figuratively true. Another thing DMCfriends love to do is larp as their cawmbo e-celebs, just look at I'm starting to wonder if they even play DMC past a first playthrough at all. Some don't even play all the games in the series.

Talking in general terms obviously so it's to be taken with a grain of saly (no, the other kind of salt). I post in DMC threads so obviously it does not apply to everyone there :^)

>literally case in point

Always blows my mind every time i see blatant displays of no self awareness on this board. It happens a lot.

>favorite game is Witcher 3
Embarrassing

damn how did people take all this bait?

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>No argument
>"Technically I'm not incorrect"
>Whataboutism
>Unsubstantiated suppositions
> :^)

>Where's the bait?
Q.E.D.

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Why are you so upset friendo?