Defend this piece of shit. (pro-tip you can't)

fuck you its fun

Dragon's Dogma Assassin class
>has skills called 'stealth' and 'invisibility'
>these skills don't actually make you stealthy or invisible, they make you invincible, i.e. essentially grant you godmode for a time. Enemies still see you and run towards you. So the assassin, ostensibly a class all about being stealthy, can't actually be stealthy in Dragon's Dogma.
>to make matters worse, there is an assassin augment called 'Preemption' which doubles damage when hitting unaware targets. Presumably this was their way of adding the classic thief staple of backstabbing. But since there is no functional stealth system, enemies can't be caught unaware, so this augment is completely useless. Even if you do manage to catch enemies unaware, it's bugged and does nothing
>so basically, there is nothing assassin-related about the assassin class
Defend this.

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>Dialogue with other characters is oblivion tier
You're right about the conversations with npcs being bad, but you're way off on the reason. The problem with it is you have to keep initiating conversation until you exhaust their dialog. It would've been much better if the game would just have them go through all their lines in one go instead ending the conversation after a line or two.

>No indication of where roads lead
All roads lead to Gran Soren, Arisen.

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you didn't defend your argument and instead lashed out like a tranny proving me right

My argument is that it's not a very good party based RPG, yet faggots here jerk it off as if its amazing
>no control over party members
>party members aren't even characters
>combat mechanics are basically DA:Inquisition aka the combat loop isn't very good
>voice acting quality all over the place
This game is worse than Andromeda, jumping on the back of monsters is pretty fun though

it isn't a party based rpg, it's an action rpg where you have a party. and the combat is infinitely better than any trash divinity or whatever you'd cite

IT BEARS THE HEAD OF A COCK

>combat mechanics are basically DA:Inquisition
nigga you fuckin dumb

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SOUL

>being too smoothbrained to appreciate dragon's dogma
oof

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Why should I? The game defends itself just fine, filtering niggers like you.

zoom zoom zoom

They're masterworks, all. You can't go wrong

They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong.

It's not a very good action RPG either. in that regard it's worse than the Witcher 2 or 3, maybe it picks up later on but you'd the think the combat loop in an action RPG would be great from the get go.

Literally one of the best games of its genre.

OP is retarded.

Doesn’t even tell you if a tree is large or not. Sad!

The combat in dragon's dogma is absolutely better than any other action rpg. You'd have to be a mondo retard to think otherwise, especially if you're comparing it to the witcher sequels with their bam ham knock off combat.

What is it's genre? Must be so niche it's the only game in it or something.

I was about to ask if you had even played the game. Then I realised it was I who was the retard.

I had a good chuckle.

There's no parry with a greatsword how is this good?

>Defend this.

Every other class.

This look interesting.

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The combat and class customization are the games biggest strengths and the only reason I bothered finishing it.

Unfortunately it's all brought down by the absolute worst damage calculation I've ever seen in a game. It's a shame and I hope they fix it in the sequel.

Action RPG

>start a new game
>play all the way up to Gran Soren
>get bored and drop the game for months
>hey maybe I should give this game a shot again
>might as well start fresh since I've forgot where I am
I have done this at least 4-5 times

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The party member's AI was great in terms of combat and them learning and adapting, but their repeating voice lines really got to me and my pawn wouldn't shut up even after I told him to.
The combat was also neat.
But the color pallette is awful, the world is uglier than Skyrim somehow. The story is "I stole your heart now fite me!!!" nonsense with other kingly bullshit in-between.
If the eventual DD2 fixes all that bullshit it should be good.

It's literally my favourite game. I've bought this shit 4 times.
>Original release
>Dark Arisin
>PC version
>Switch version

And each time i've put 100-200 hours into it.
Bet your magnificent ass i'd buy it again if they did some sort of HD remaster or some shit.

I just want DD2 already.

>play all the way up to Gran Soren

So like, an hour?

That's where you're wrong.
It's a masterwork, you can't go wrong.

I'd play a bit beyond it like doing that underground spiral dungeon and exploring the spooky forest but yeah, 2-3 sessions of playing.

>citing witcher as good action rpgs
kek opinion immediately discarded

If you rush it. There's more than an hours worth of stuff to do at the beginning.

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It's certainly not the best action RPG of the year it was released

Takes a while to get to GS first time especially if you take the side quest.
I can understand, but it only really picks up once you start to explore further.

in regards to the combat loop the Witcher 2 has a better one than DD

THE WIND IS PUSHING ME

The ending of the story is, without a doubt, true fucking kino

Play magic archer instead retard

>witcher 2 combat
>good in any way
They got better about it in 3 but 2 was really just a shitty batman clone.

only homos like it

possibly, maybe this suffers from the same thing Mass Effect 1 did, that the final arc is amazing but the ride there is kind of janky.

This 2bh

I'll sever the tail!

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I can agree with that- whole premise of the story is that you're trying to get your heart back, but there's absolutely no indication where the thing is until the final arc is ready to begin, and until then you're faffing about with the Duke's court and the dumbass Doomsday cult

I do that with all elder scrolls games.
I hit about level 10, stop playing, uninstall the game, forget about it for a year or so. Reinstall, "I'm going to totally finish it this time"; repeat the process.

It isn't, that's my point, and this game is even worse.
People telling me oh it's not about the party it's about the action RPG stuff, but it falls flat here too.

>under 140 height
>silk lingerie
u tell me

I tried to play through that but the gameplay was so shitty that I just put it down and never picked it up again. DD in comparison had me more engaged from the start.

It's trash, but nu-Yea Forums zoomers think they have to defend it to fit in.

>Only a couple of vocations are viable, everything else is low-dmg trash
>Warrior gets 3(three) skills only, and almost all of them are shit
>Only the agility vocations get a dodge or any kind of mobility, every other vocations is slow as fuck
>the dmg calculation is some of the most retarded shit in vidya, completely indefensible (90% of your dmg is determined by your gear, rest is skills/level. The game virtually offers NO REWARD for player skill)
>goblin one-hits you, level up once, goblin does LITERALLY 1 dmg now
>very little variety in terms of weapons
>WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS ARISEN

The story is genuinely interesting and the final boss twist is pretty cool, but the game itself is utter dogshit. You go from being one hit by a wolf, level up,

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It feels janky until you play it again and notice things you didn't before. Everything is connected and wholly realized, nothing just happens out of nowhere. For instance, you can see the cockatrice that gets brought to gran soren before the relevant quest. Talk to the soldier and he comments how it doesn't have a scratch on it and will make a good offering to the duke. Inspect it and the game says it looks almost alive.

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homos are a lot better than trannies

>this game is even worse
Not even in your wildest shitposts.

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>Please explain this low-effort garbage
>ummmmm......ignore that and play something else xD?

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>posts a nigger
>pretends he has an opinion
yikes

Maybe, but Coils of Light is much better.

>calling Costanza a nigger
fuck you user

>Only a couple of vocations are viable
Not true. Assassin rapes everything with it's dagger counter, and magic archer rapes in bitterbutt, but you can do just fine as any class. Warrior is the only one that's really disadvantaged due to no ranged attack and only 3 skills.

>durr it's not a nigger meme because i made it an epic Yea Forums reference

>Costanza is a nigger now

I want plebbit to leave forever

blacks and women will never understand this game. it is for whites and asians only

>0 attempt to actually refute any of the points

Good job Zoom zoom

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jap coils of light > eng coils of light

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>OP couldn't fly into free
I pity you bro.

>Only a couple of vocations are viable, everything else is low-dmg trash
Just like every other game in existence, or maybe your build is wrong
>Warrior gets 3(three) skills only, and almost all of them are shit
The webms i've seen tell me otherwise
>Only the agility vocations get a dodge or any kind of mobility, every other vocations is slow as fuck
And yet you can dodge everything by simply moving away, git gud
>the dmg calculation is some of the most retarded shit in vidya, completely indefensible (90% of your dmg is determined by your gear, rest is skills/level. The game virtually offers NO REWARD for player skill)
Based on your reasoning, if it was determined only by your level or 50/50 it still would offer no reward for your skill, what does skill even mean to you
>goblin one-hits you, level up once, goblin does LITERALLY 1 dmg now
Objectively not true
>very little variety in terms of weapons
It's literally like every other rpg, someone didn't play dark arisen content

OK user, what are the classes that are actually viable?
Because clearly the class that can use great weapons isn't one of them if I wan't to have fun.
The Basic warrior wasn't terrible is that supposed to one of the better ones?

Why play any of these when Strider's Brain Splitter is by FAR the best DPS in the game? I always play with greatswords in any game whenever they're present, but DD's treatment of two-handers is almost criminal. It made me hate my experience with it. The fact that the Berserk sets weren't in the PC version just rubs salt on the wound.

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there aren't any points there, just a bunch of objectively wrong whining by someone that hasn't played the game

Everything's just a jape to you isn't it?

>something strong exists in the game so i NEED to play it and abuse it
every vocation has strong things. sorry you're too braindead to try other things and can only use a setup you found in a guide somewhere

>Why play any of these when Strider's Brain Splitter is by FAR the best DPS in the game?
Because not everyone is autistic and can enjoy playing a class while knowing they're not doing the absolute maximum damage possible.

>not from the webms I've read

Stopped reading right there. Confirmed for not even playing the game. I've 100% this piece of shit and hated most of my time with it. Suck a nigger dick you fucking faggot and try playing the game before spewing unsubstantiated nonsense

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Strider is the undisputed best class in the game, most mobility+highest DPS. If you aren't playing on Hard or just want to LARP feel free to play any vocation, but if you actually want to do dmg to enemies, play Strider

My switch copy arrived yesterday, bought all versions of this minus PC and xbox/xbox one.

Ok, great. I don't care about which vocations give me the best dps or whatever, I just want to have fun.
What vocations are actually the most fun to play?

>I've 100% this piece of shit and hated most of my time with it

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Confirmed for not playing on hard

...

All of them.

>2019
Like i care about a shitty poorfaggot opinion

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What pissed me off was how dodge roll and double jump weren't just limited to the Dex vocations, but to daggers only.

Are you literally the dumbest nigger in existence? Hard barely changes anything at all. You DO know that you're supposed to upgrade your equipment right?

>not having a backlog of shit to play

Wonder who the poorfag actually is

Still you i guess

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This definitely isn't true I can only do two things as a warrior swing my Greatsword and stab with it. why can I not parry?

The only real roadblock with hard mode is the damage you receive being upped to absurd levels. Even then it's only really a problem in early game. Just have a good defensive option and pack consumables like throwblast and you'll manage.

>i idled and used steam achievement manager so i know what I'm talking about

>hard barely changes anything

2/10, you're still getting me to reply

imagine being proud of something like this.

I actually can't refute it

greatswords aren't for parrying, dipshit.

I like it. Because the climbing mechanics are fun.

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>greatswords aren't for parrying
You've never used one have you?

Not him but it doesn't.

>Powerhouse ever needing to parry

Why would I use a greatsword? It's not the 1400s lmao

>I like to project

it increases enemy health a little bit, that's it. I have 100% on 360, ps4, and pc. and you didn't answer the question you dumb fuck nigger, did you upgrade your equipment?

so i was right and you have no evidence otherwise. you're a dumb black nigger

Battle of the nations
Maybe I'll play KC:D again or literally any other game as this one is clearly for retards

>muh parry
Warrior in dragon's dogma is about tanking shit with def boosts and i-frames, if you use that skill. It's the least fun class in the game if you're not already into the idea of swinging around a huge sword.

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On hard mode at level 1-5 you get one-shot by bats. Not on normies difficulty.

don't have to fagget

It also increases dmg received, and the amount of gold dropped by enemies.

Run along then. You're clearly too galaxy brained for this game.

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yeah, so barely fucking anything

You're actually right, Hard makes the first few levels an annoying hell full of one-shot bullet sponges followed by hours of you stomping the living shit out of everything due to the XP curve being so busted you become an unstoppable god after the first couple of hours.

>spamming attack is fun

Alright guys, defend Sorceror being literally unable to use anything but it's regular attack on anything that highly resists magic and defend Metal Golems basically being indestructible as this class.
But mostly save me, Metal Golems, Death and Daimon are so fucking bullshit.

and that lasts for all of maybe 2 minutes until you put a piece of armor on. the vast bulk of the game is not in the first 2 minutes. and the argument wasn't about damage received, it was about needing to minmax the most broken damage vocation in order to kill enemies, which you NEVER need to do

Well the dmg received is a pretty big deal early on. Gobbos can one shot you as soon as you leave cassardis.

What else would you spam?

I have 80 played of this game and I've never made it past meeting the Duke before I drop it

Strider pawns exist

Because you aren't meant to play solo. And every ice spell has physical damage, Gicel destroys metal golem amulets just fine

I want to be a sorcerer. What spells are most fun?

But I feel as if there is a great game hiding here somewhere. i think my biggest problem with this is the amount of times people say aught in this game.
Either A have them speak late middle English, or B have them speak normally.
One of the two but the fucking translation team decided to use aught for every thing

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Man, if only you could make a party with varying damage types.

>kingdom come deliverance
lmfao it baffles me just how braindead people on Yea Forumseddit are

>translation
You're ignorance is becoming tiresome. Begone already, unless there is aught else you wish to discuss besides your own shit taste.

How effective/viable is this against other enemies? I love kicking shit in games.

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It's just a counter skill with a fairly high chance to stagger, iirc. It's useful but you won't be kicking as your main source of damage.

I played it on switch a couple of weeks ago, with a magical save that included all of the weapons and armor, and infinite stamina mod. No farming, no grinding, just hack and slash through the story and BBI.

Shit was ultra cash, it made the game an arcade brawler like the old ones made by Capcom.

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Here's my defence: The game is fun. Fuck off.

Strider pawns can't stand up to Death, Daimon or golems though.

Obviously I have a party with me. The problem is not the variety of damage types, it's the fact that pawns only go so far.
They struggle against a great many foes, the most problematic of which I previously listed.

I didn't know about Gicel doing physical damage though, I hope that actually works well.

wrong

So in conclusion
>you can only have one save, because this is a gameboy color game
>Party banter doesn't exist because none of the party members are actual characters
>Action RPG stuff isn't great as there are too many classes so the game implements the various combat mechanics mediocrely
>writing is dogshit
>dialogue is like a preschooler Renaissance fair

not just gicel, many spells have physical damage properties. use conqueror periapts and those spells and you can kill metal golems and living armors easily

what your post translates to

"So in conclusion
>I'm a braindead tranny nigger"

eloquent as always user

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>frogposter nigger
typical

>No clue as to how far from shore fishermen venture.
>not clear as to when one should attack.
>nowhere are you told what, exactly, the bastion was built to keep out.
>not warned about the dangers of the water's edge, nor whether you should approach it or not.
>never told what to do at an inn
>no clue what kind of people Pawns are, nor where they are borne from.
>when picking a weapon or armour, never sure whether or not you can go wrong.
Game's shit.

>oh no! Two or three of the humongous load of skills that arguably the most versatile vocation gets are kinda wonky (yet still pretty useful) and don't line up with their names!
>oh no!

why would you replay the tutorial over and over?

defend this

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Name a better action RPG than Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen.

There is none.

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True, it’s shit

nu/v/eddit are all underage eceleb drones with short attention spans. if the game doesn't have multiplayer lootboxes then it's lost to modern Yea Forums

Holy shit! Where do you find that!?

ff15

>if the game doesn't have multiplayer lootboxes then it's lost to modern Yea Forums
I just want a compelling reason to do any of the things I'm supposed to be doing, this game doesn't give me that.

Mass Effect 2

Why though?
If I hate rap music, I don't listen to snoop dog for 101 hours.

>tits are too smol.
Goddamn I actually ended up really liking Madeleine after doing her quest.

why play any video game? get a real hobby if you want some sort of fulfilment

>if you find the composition of your party to be lacking arisen, don't be afraid to change it up.

>no control over party members
>combat mechanics are basically DA:Inquisition
Contradiction nigger
>no control over party members
True but why the fuck would you want to anyway? All the control you need is choosing a pawn and telling them to Go, Help, Come
Why would you want to play your Mage Pawn, your Tank Pawn, and a fuckall pawn. Just play the class you want and pawns support you because you are too dumb to play their class.

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With the right passive skill, If you hit attack as a yellow class with daggers, then pause for a beat then hit attack again you'll start a chain of roundhouse kicks.
Kicking the fuck out of bats is great.

They are equal

The game tells you all of those you fucking retard.

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Shitting on a whole game because one class has 2 janky things In a single player game where it wont have a big effect as if it was in a pvp multiplayer game

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>merely pretending

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They're masterworks all
You can't go wrong

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To this day I hear that in his voice.

>Masterful Kill sucks vs big monsters
>isn't even a parry since you can just hold it forever
What a gigantic waste. They'll fix this in Dragon's Dogma 2, right?

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For real now, even if capcom were to do what nintendo is doing with "botw2" and use the existing assets to create some sort of expansion, I'd be happy because there is not a single class I don't enjoy playing in Dark Arisen. All capcom would have to do is port models/assets from ddon but I guess everyone is really expecting DD2 instead.
I miss old vidya days where older games used to get expansions, even after a while.

Same, and since DDON is shutting down I wonder if we may get it soon, idk if that game was dead to the point of no revenue but shutting it down might be hinting something.

Sadly I didn't fall in love with the pawn system, and I think the game has awesome ideas but at some point I felt like the whole grand quest and even the exploration was watered down and meaningless
It's still a great game and I had fun but it was not what I expected it to be

>class can't even fulfil the basic functions of its class concept
>"2 janky things"

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I just can't bring myself to enjoy Warrior. It's scaling is broken and all the fun skills stop being useful past the early game.

If you're gonna be this autistic, stealth is nowhere mentioned in the definition of the word assassin.

>wojak poster
dumb nigger

>Play Warrior because I like big swords
>Finish BBI
>BBI 2.0 rapes me
>Hurr just re-roll as Strider or Magic Archer

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The only tier you need to know in DD:DA is
>Shit tier
Mage

Jump attack and minamx. Every vocation will destroy shit with full damage Augments and 4x Periapts.

>If you're gonna be this autistic, stealth is nowhere mentioned in the definition of the word assassin.

>official class description from Capcom is "An expert at covert attacks aided by mastery of a variety of weapons"
>COVERT
>skills are literally called STEALTH and INVISIBILITY
>another skill is called PREEMPTION, which again, indicates secrecy
>literally every other rpg that has the assassin skill gives that class stealth-related abilities

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Do you use Conquerors and Demon Charms?
Pop 4 each and steamroll

I get that leveling as an Warrior is rough but it is fun to play it once you're at the level cap, I enjoy it but it's far from my favourite. When I'm playing solo Warrior I hate fighting anything that flies or that is too fast.

fuck meant to quote

>having the longest range sniping ability in the game isn't covert

I don't use Invisibility much simply because my Lvl 200 Assassin WANTS the enemy to see him tear them apart and it does deplete your stamina fast. That being said, stock up on Liquid Vims and Invisibility works great.
Stealth was great at first but once uou reach high levels it isnt really needed much. I mainly use it when I fi Gut the ur dragon, just so it would stop throwing me off. Another way to use it is for when youre low on health, activate it and use some curatives tthn turn it off.

I think gale harness is a much better skill.
Just know learn what shit does nigger before bitching about it

I don't like playing Warrior at level cap since Arc of Obliteration is absolutely useless at later portions of the game because it practically doesn't scale at all. But yeah flying and fast enemies are really annoying to deal with. Fighter also has the same problem but not as bad.

it's stupid how you can make a loli character but all the voices sound like 30 year old women

every class is viable
>tfw soloing bitterbutt island with fighter and warrior after all the shitposting on them

>you are immune to all damage while stealthed.
Enemies have a set area of perception, get close enough they aggro, there aren't really any Stealth features so to speak. Yes you can walk up closer from behind the enemy but most of the time enemy groups are clustered so they can simply spot you once you are close enough.

There is no Stealth attacks in the way of say skyrim or metal gear solid, you merely get the jump on the enemy, allowing you the first strike which if you aren't strong enough to one shot the enemy you'll just get advantage.

You get a whole raft of skills that are "covert" - one that affects enemies that are unaware, you when caught off guard, night time stuff and more.
Don't be so pedantic.

tfw can't make a mute loli pawn trying her best to communicate with me while in battle

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>buy throwblasts
>curb stomp bbi and get to max level in about 2 hours
Here's a guide I made on how to max level and min max strenght in less than 3 hours youtube.com/watch?v=WXgzNWqtDoY
This game is full of broken items and shit. I really need to get back into the game.

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Mystic Knight. Spam Greater Cannon + Full Moon Slash. Have an enchant bitch pawn with you. Spin to win.

how to spot a parroting retard
>warrior is bad

Warrior is the 2nd worst vocation so it's not far off.

It's not far-fetched, there's a bunch of retards that genuinely believes warrior is just spamming arc, when their best move is the I-frame one.
Case in point just up ahead.

>retards that genuinely believes warrior is just spamming arc
Retards, it's spamming jump attacks

>worst vocation
>in a single player game where every class works just fine for all content

Nope. Ranger is more DPS and has the same amount of mobility.
All are pretty fun and worth trying, except for Mage, which is just a much less fun Sorcerer with some support spells.

Yes? All the classes are fine and you can beat the game with them, but that doesn't change the fact some are better than others.

>playing 100 hours of a game you don't like
kys achievement hunting zoomer

I liked everything about this game except for the level design. Absolute dogshit areas that only get slightly better later on. Brine was awful too, made water levels a pain in the ass when your pack mules fall in and worst of all, removed the possibility of having interesting sea monster fights.

all the world enders. miasma is god tier, i think people write it off as a shitty poison dot because of it's description but it's a fast cast that shits out damage. necromancy and brontide are also pretty fun

>he didn't take the iraklis pill

Abyssal Anguish + Blitz Strike/Full Moon Slash is always fun

Defend your post? You're right, I can't

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I'm hoping DD2 has water. I want to know what's across the ocean. I want to have a ship and fight pirates (bandits) and a giant kraken. Maybe some mermaids or sirens too.

It's not dark arisen

THE TAIL IS SEVERED!

I've been playing with mystic knight, and I have a sorcerer pawn with miasma. Miasma constantly triggered my ruinous sigil. It was insane.

Me with MGS V.
Shit game

>played with mods on switch
What? How?

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