Put in a high profile actor to voice a very talkative character

this
not in an environment where uncharted, till dawn, bioshock 1, half-life 2, every single game by monolith, riddick efbb, gta vc and sa exist.
MGS has no fucking concept of pace - it's an audiobook of vidya.

MGS > MGS3 > MGS2 > MGS5 >>>>>>>>> MGS4

Stop hating on MGS5. Even being unfinished it's still way better than 4.

He voices both characters

>uncharted, till dawn, bioshock 1, half-life 2, every single game by monolith, riddick efbb, gta vc and sa exist.
most of those are shit

first off, you're wrong contrarian and second: narrative-wise, they don't waste player's time (not to a degree mgs does) and/or deliver gripping dialogs, something mgs series was never good at.

>fallout 4
>masterful storytelling

Sure, Todd

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Venom Snake is still Snake and he is also Big Boss.
He's just not John, the original Snake and Big Boss.

>snake
>very talkative character
90% of his dialogue consists of rephrasing the last sentence said by the other person as a question.

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b-but him being a shitty character with no discernable motivations or anything individualistic really was the point

did you rike it??????!!! *gobbles Kojima's gook dick*

>You're probably the same people that unironically think Fallout 4 had masterful storytelling.
Nobody says this. Not even people who like that game think it has a good story.

>I have never played the games and yet feel the need to comment on shit because of memes

youtube.com/watch?v=cGOb1TcO-8o

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>3 minutes from four fucking games, with each of those games having cutscenes that last hours
The most ironic shit is that Snake has the most "character" and unique lines in MGS1 and that's where he repeats the most shit. Stop taking your info about games from memes and actually play them.

99% of the people who shit on Hayter don't remember the prison codec conversations with Naomi in 1, shit was golden and just nailed Snake's personality.

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fuck off faggot, it was finished, your daddy hackimbo cut out a lot of snake's dialogue and cut scenes. you would know it if you wouldn't be a dumb ignorant fuck who doesn't know how to google.

Those are not all the instances of him asking questions.

90% of the dialogue in MGS consists of other characters monologuing and explaining the plot. I don't know why you'd be in denial about this.

It's one of the reasons why MGS writing is so bad: characters talk in extremely unnatural ways and exposition is way too heavy-handed.

>MGS4 comes out
>people complain there is too much cutscenes
>MGS PW moves most of its cutscenes to cassete tapes to be optionally listened
>MGSV does the same
>waaah why snake doesn't talk

Go fuck yourselves.

Why did they change her accent?

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There's actually a bunch of voice work recorded by Keef that was cut from the game anyway because Kojima's a retard. Spent all that money to record this stuff and then suddenly decided he wanted a silent protagonist so he threw it all out.

youtu.be/VS0bltO8VAU

They wrote Venom as a quieter character long before Kiefer was hired because Kojima wanted to make a Mad Max 2 game. Hence the quiet protagonist, dog companion, desert, cars, annoying blonde kid with a machete etc. Kiefer talks plenty as actual Big Boss in his five minutes of screen time.
Retard.

Both Hayter and Kiefer are terrible voice actors for different reasons.

She was never meant to have one

blame shit translation. mgs1 sounds natural for a reason.

accents are racist

>90% of the dialogue in MGS consists of other characters monologuing and explaining the plot.
There is a lot of monologues but I don't see how that makes the plot shit. And the argument was about how Snake supposedly "asks a lot of questions" which is simply a fucking meme no matter how many goalposts you move or cherrypicked videos you provide. He does it sometimes and it's a result of translating from Japanese, which Blaustein and Kaku did an amazing job with anyway.
>It's one of the reasons why MGS writing is so bad: characters talk in extremely unnatural ways and exposition is way too heavy-handed.
The writing of an individual MGS game works as a contained work with its own themes, it only starts shitting itself once you bring up continuity and no fucking wonder since Kojima just made up shit as he went along. Nothing past 3 (aside from Peace Walker) is worth discussing really.

>They wrote Venom as a quieter character long
Source?
>in his five minutes of screen time.
not really

MGSV is a pointless game it adds nothing to the MGS series and doesn't deserve to be a numbered title

Learn to read retard

T. Someone who only watches videogame parodies

>"I've said it many times, but I understand why people feel Snake is cool and admire him," Kojima said. "In realty, though, Snake is and always has been nothing more than an extension of the player. He's your alter ego. Therefore, I made a very conscious effort this time to bring Snake closer to the player's perspective. As much as possible, Snake will act based on the player rather than doing things like making spontaneous comments or flirting with women."
>"In fact," Kojima continued, "this time, Snake won't really speak much at all. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is an open world game focused on giving freedom to the player who will drive Snake's actions. Snake himself will be more of a silent protagonist similar to Mad Max in Mad Max 2. It's the characters around him who will expand the story."
uk.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/snake-wont-really-speak-much-at-all-in-metal-gear-solid-5

it is not a numbered title. V not 5

This is 100 percent correct. FUCK konima for shitting on the series with some wanking boomer alco actor. The bullshit excuse he gave about needing facial expressions doesnt hold up- we see refn modeled with someone else’s voice just fine

Its not fair i want Hayter back

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>the other characters proceed to not expand the story at all
Bravo Kojimmy!

he's probably trolling

That doesn't explain the character assassination shit he pulled with Ocelot. Jesus fuck, everyone besides Huey was a dead plank.

It was dead obvious kojima was tired of the franchise by mg4. He was forced to make mg5 and the game just feels so shitty compared to the others.

The series is dead anyway

>create best selling mgs ever
>get shitcanned because reasons
'omg y do they hate us?' kucknami

has to be jap autism.

>go outta your way to make cool character ppl will wanna play as
>create icon
>somehow be perplexed

I think hes a bullshitter. Shit happened and legally he cant say. mgsv was clearly cut up and stitched back together rearranged. konami must have just cut funding and force shipped it. even if kojima was being extravagant all mgs games have a sheen that every other game lacks. that's why they sell well

>go outta your way to make cool character ppl will wanna play as
>create icon

>literal copy-pasta of snake plissken
>sprinkle anime tropes and anime behaviour on top
>"go out of your way"

>thus by extension hurting the game's writing
It has the best characterizations out of all MGS games.
Previously the characters were one or two dimensional comic book heroes and villains.
The scene wirh Huey on the raft wouldn't have been possible in older MGS games.

>Kiefer
>High profile
cope he's a Z-lister

>I can't accept this explanation from the creator so I'll just come up with my own conspiracy theory and believe that
Okay. He was already saying stuff like that long before anything even happened with Konami but whatever.

Heh, look at this """"fag"""".

holy shit I just realised
that's why it was a different voice actor
because it wasn't snake
kojima you genius!

The boss alone is better written than anything in that mess of a game. that's why the salute scene is one of the most memorable in the series

the salute scene is memorable because you're getting spoonfed emotion through music

no because 4 did the same thing but it was shit. its the context that makes it memorable.

Huey was the only character that got good characterization though.
Because you're meant to empathize with him as a victim of circumstance first, but then you realize that Skullface was right to look down on him as the emotionally manipulative weasel that he is and that he was manipulating you the same way.
All the other characters were still one note.
>Miller
Muh paranoia and revenge! *insert burgers and daddy issues to make him seem deeper*
>Ocelot
Literally just a voice over to tell you the next mission, has like 2 bits of dialog where he actually suggests you do something fun and also dumps a bucket of water on you if you don't shower enough.
>Code Talker
Not even a character but a plot McGuffin to help you cure vocal chord parasites, also acts as Quiet's mouthpiece to actually give her some characterization in her ending.
>Quiet
Silent love interest for our silent protagonist. I'm sure that'll work well. Bravo Kojimbob! Needs the Code Talker mouthpiece to finally make her a good character, ending sequence finally gives her good chemistry with BiBo for the first time but it's wasted for nothing but a tearjerker ending.

>The boss alone is better written
someone load up those brainlet wojaks

try consuming a piece of media for once that isnt a bidoo game

then again, even by those standards the boss is embarrassing trash

How will Kojimbo ever recover from being slammed by this master in """""linguistics"""""??

Why cant you let go, it was a long time ago niggers

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The seething about MGSV is eternal. Nobody can ever let go, we're all caught in its gravity

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That reminds me, is chapter 3 cult still alive?

they've moved on to thinking death stranding is the next piece to the MGSV experience and i'm on board with that

But Kojima bloated the budget to 80 million dollars already and the game still wasn't complete.

All of his dialogue lines are on the cassette tapes that everybody half-assed listened to.

That was only in the English version. Japan kept their VO. The truth is Kojima wanted upgrade and "direct" a Hollywood actor. The same reason he ditched the Jost.