*insta gibs you*

I have difficulty with the RNG so whenever I use 'command?' I just skim for a buff or heal. It's too dangerous to use a melee move usually. Do you guys think that's a decent strategy?

The issue with Bayonetta was she suffered from the least amount of balance patches.
Whereas even if Hero is ridiculously OP now, he'll be hit with a multitude of patches because there's still three more DLC characters coming out.

Too be fair DQ is fucking batshit huge in japan and basically the equivalent of FF over there, SE is just retarded in marketing and thought both DQ and FF in the west would over saturate markets.

Yes
Most of his Down-B specials aren't very good compared to his Smash attacks or his neutral / side special

Nice. I'm finding Frizz very helpful and Kaswoosh charges a lot quicker than I thought. Still getting the hang of timing the zap spells though. Metal Slash being in the game feels like an outright nerf to him. It's so insanely situational

>Play against Hero
>He's on the menu
>try to get a free hit
>THWACK'd

>Play as Hero
>get KO'd
>open up menu
>THWACKED

Keyblades are stupid.

Could be worse Noctis could have gotten in

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I tried to ruin DMC5 threads and failed.

gay

Hero is by far the most fun character they've added. Cloud was boring, Corrin was dull, Bayo put me to sleep, Ryu was fun if you had autism, Joker was ok.
Hero is actually fun as shit, every match feels completely different.

Sora looks like a fag, im glad we got manly toriyama heroes

Is Dragon Quest music usually this boring?

>gets you to 60-70% damage
>sends you off stage
>rngjesus blesses him with Magic Burst
>steals your stock for free
Not gonna lie, this shit is fun as hell.
>tfw hitting someone with Hatchet Man

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Hero will be God tier when people start really putting that command menu to use. I'm still slow to pick something but the people I'm fighting online seem to think they're playing an actual turn based RPG and just read for like 8 seconds.
No one uses buffs when all of them are amazing, heals are good, magic burst is pretty much an insta kill at corners, and there's just so much you can do with him.

I have landed hatchet man far more often than I thought I would. I don't know why I keep picking it, but it seems that I am blessed by Yangus.

Nah the selection is honestly weak. The fact it's just the overworld and battle themes from the repped heroes is honestly p disappointing but it at least it's not Cloud.
The only real gems in there are Adventure and Wagon Wheel March

>just baited a Hatchet Man to end the match

I've been training myself to instinctively go for heal and Magic burst if I see them. While Magic burst takes all your Mp, it doesn't take long to get your mp back and the results are usually devastating.

Excuse me ever played smash flash 2?

been trashing these all day. nothing special

>Killed someone in a match with Kamikaze, then Whack at 73%, then Snooze followed by a fully-charged f-smash at the ledge at 40% (no crit)
You're almost guaranteed a cheese option whenever you hit down-b

Hatchet Man is the chaddest move in the game. Just throw a b-reversed one out and get random shield breaks.

>people keep sleeping on fully charged Side-b
>when that shit kills early, has super armor, and isn't reflectable
Maybe they'll learn one day. But today, their ass is electrified

Everyone saying the menu ability isn't "all that" is foolish. Literally just activate anywhere, anytime if you're not in imediate danger, always. There will be something you can use. In the rare occasion there isn't, do it again.

>Hero will be God tier when people start really putting that command menu to use

Love this meme

Not sure if Hero will be high or low tier, but he's fun as hell to play as so I'm definitely maining Erdrick.

If Shulk's objectively more reliable version of this isn't able to get people to use him competitively, nothing will. It's too much effort when you can just pick a more conventional character to do better results with less training time

Dr.Wily spirit

>Takes your stock at 60%
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Post Webms/Gifs faggot

Hero is going to be a litmus test on how much Nintendo cares about competitive smash. Because it's absolutely retarded that players will be negatively affected by playing in different language regions. So either they will update the game to give the moves unique symbols, or they will ignore this problem and let it all go to shit.

Some of the commands make for some crazy edge guards. Both elemental slashes are deceptively large and the magic burst is just busted if you get it.

Sora would be even more broken and you fucking know it

With his gimmick being long combos and air combat and the way that Sakurai has been doing these characters lately, he'd have fucking aerial smash attacks like that bird in rivals of aether and magnet spells

You know, i'm starting to see the pros of the slashes after a bit more practice. Holding it in the menu as the opponent approaches usually works for keeping them away. While it does literally spell out what you plan on doing, it seems like most people don't pay attention to the menu.

>Tfw oophm+ pyshe up
it's like I'm really playing DQ

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if you don't know your own region's language it's your fault

The problem is that people from out of country do fly in to compete at majors, like EVO coming up, and not all of them will know the lingua franca to the extent that they can glance at the command list and know what they are choosing.
As I understand it, this issue can be mitigated by messing with language/region settings, but problems will arise if you have two different Hero players who speak different languages.

bump

of course they go for the most iconic music, even if that song sucks

We cannot ignore this...

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/442253084/#442254868

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>to learn the DQ Hero properly, you must also learn Japanese
Seems very fitting to be honest with you, very in line with the series history

For most big majors, it would be the other way around, it would be the JP players having to put in the extra work to learn the English version of the command list, more often than not.

hero is mid tier, loses to fast characters, and characters with projectiles to stop his menu

Kill yourself Barry
FFXV suck ass

Because all retards want to do right now is run and then cycle through down B to try to do the RNG shit. Best play is using fully charged neutral B, half charged side B, buffs and down B, and recovery. You'll never run out of MP and kick the shit out of stuff.

already confirmed fake

The issue with Bayo is that death combo aside, most of the cast literally could not contest her hitboxes cleanly so she could just throw shit out and they had to respect it. Hero isn't that way. Hero is probably closer to Cloud in that he can just shit damage and kill you at stupid %s if he catches you with stuff.

The buffs are amazing. The attacks are situational, but snooze is definitely fucking good. It's larger than I would have thought and many characters who want to approach can't just shorthop over it; they have to very deliberately full hop or respect it.

I feel like it would be better if the spell list was visible at all times, and only re-rolled after using one of the spells.
At least that way you could be prepared to react to whatever options your opponent has and the rng would at least be tolerable.
While we're at it, put the criticals on a pattern instead of being random. Make it every fifth smash attack (including whiffs), so you can be rewarded for being observant

Anyone saying he’s top tier is a dumbass.

>Spamming spells is the ultimate brainlet move. You don’t get MP back for landing them, so Kafrizz spamming can make even your down b useless
>Additionally, Woosh costs 5 MP, Swoosh costs 11, Kaswoosh is 18, and all are pretty eaay to punish provided you don’t walk into the tornado. If you don’t have the MP to Kaswoosh, you’re gonna die
>Normals are slow. Your best bet for anything are Jabs and your shitty crouch move. Unless you space it right, you’re not getting that smash crit
>A lot of Menu Commands are made useless to rely on just due to Rarity. Bounce would be a lot better if you could consistently get it, as with Snooze, Zoom, etc
>Rerolling is pretty impractical, too. By the time you realize you don’t have what you want and shield to reroll, the enemy has already closed in
>Zoom is next to useless. You’re always going to be able to get back with Kaswoosh, you can’t move when you open the menu, and you’re probably not going to get Zoom
>Accelerate can’t be canceled unless you get another buff, which means if you get read at 50 you’re done
>Snooze is slow, goes half of battlefield, and has a distinct sound and color. You won’t get hit by it if you’re paying attention
>Hocus Pocus is a gamble within a gamble that contains every buff, every power-down, and every spell in the game. Yes, you can maybe get a final smash off it, but you can also be shrunk, flowered, Eigoned, poisoned, even die instantly
>Kaclang is pretty much shit. Only good for taunting. But it is the ultimate taunt. Metal Slash is also largely useless
>Whack and Thwack seem scary until you realize you’re usually not going to be within range to get hit by it. To land it, you have to be extremely bold, which again, not ideal, because you have to be completely vulnerable

He is a Pub Stomper at best, there’s so many layers of uncertainty behind him, which is not ideal since without those, he’s a worse Link

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this character is great

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Almost forgot

>Magic Burst is only really worth it when you’ve got Mana to burn and you’re at the ledge when your opponent is recovering. You can get punished as soon as the attack is over and you’re going to have trouble recovering since you just used all your mp