How the hell did digimon do it? How the hell did digimon kill pokemon so quickly...

How the hell did digimon do it? How the hell did digimon kill pokemon so quickly? We had 20 years where digimon was pretty much nonexistent but it dethroned pokemon in the span of a couple weeks

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It never did and never will hipster

Digimon was always better, schoolyard rumors about digimon ripping off pokemon poisoned many 8 y/o minds

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I'm a digimon fag going almost 20 years now but I'm not delusional enough to think furries and autists crying on /vp/ and reddit will kill pokemon.

stop baiting, you know full well that 15 million bingtendies will still buy whatever game freak shits out.

I fucking wish, the only thing that will save pokemon is a worthwhile competitor.
If WoW is anything to go by, a decent one takes around 15+ years to crop up.

Digimon is soulless gook shit. Pokemon atleast has roots besides "ok we need competition for Pokemon so lets copy Pokemon"

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Well I assume Digimon had to keep improving in order to drive sales while pokemon was able to stay relatively stagnant since it would always sell no matter what.

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>How the hell did digimon kill pokemon so quickly?
you should be talking the opposite considering that the upcoming Digimon movie will kill the entire franchise in a similar way to pic related's 3rd movie, which is pretty ironic

Can we all agree that digimon was innocent all along?
Those apple faced pieces of shit that they say they rip off pkmn, they shoud burn in a gasoline station

both ripped off SMT, that's the hard true to swallow

tri didn't kill the franchise, neither will this shitty movie.

>pic
Fucking cry more tears faggot. And I don't even like pokemon

digimon is megaten if it focused entirely on technology instead of spirituality.
pokemon is megaten if it was made by calarts.

Of course it won’t, you can’t kill something that’s already dead.

digimon games are pretty damn awful.

Digimon was /literally/ tamagotchi for boys. Never had anything to do with Pokemon. Only fags like you insist on comparing the two. Hell, Pokemon was also years and years behind on the "monster collect" mechanic so it just makes you look like a huge fag when you spout off shit you heard on the playground 2 years ago.

Digimon is superior in every single aspect. The first 3 anime seasons absolutely MURDER any season of Pokémon (only nostagia slobs will say otherwise). Don't even let me start talking about the games...
Aside from some design choices from specific Digimons, it is probably better than anything Pokémon created. Pic related: a 10/10 design choice.

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>"rip off"

imagine if someone did something cool one time and then nobody was ever allowed to build on it.
"already done, bro! don't rip me off!"

>Only fags like you insist on comparing the two
>pic
>posts
>thread
Lmaoooo

Digimon games have been improving, yes, but they still don't even have as fun of a meta as Pokemon did in Gen 1 (albeit nowadays they also don't have many of the annoying things gen 1 had either)

Digimon anime is wildly inconsistent though

Digimon didn't do a damn thing, Pokemon just self-destructed. At least on the marketing side.
Who knows what'll happen sales-wise.

Pokemon has the advantage of consistency, but I prefer most iterations of the Digimon world over the Pokemon one. The Pokemon world just comes off as kind of a Disney utopia, where nothing can really go wrong.

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Pokemon has a competitive battling scene. And its the biggest media franchise in the world, beating both starwars and marvel combined.

do you even know what calarts is

And they copied from dragon quest or some shit

Reminder that the Digiworld chosen are now are adults while Ash Ketchum is still ten.

no

>he liked 02

>Who knows what'll happen sales-wise.
It'll still sell like hotcakes. Probably less than Sun/Moon, in which we'll see a bunch of retards here going "OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO" and pointing to disgruntled Amazon/Metacritic review bombs, but still making enough bank that The Pokémon Company will still be sitting pretty.

DQ invented the monster catching sim, eat it monfags

that's just not true, SMT did. Even so, who cares. Every franchise has brought something different and can be enjoyed equally. fag.

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reminder that based masaru punched god, said "fuck your sad ending" and moved back to the digital world, and showed up in tai's game just to mog him. meanwhile, ash can't even win a league.

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Pokemon killed it self and then most people looked to digimon as that plan b monster franchise with nostalgia.
Now that its coming to the switch coupled with the unmeasurable level of disappointment that is sword and shield, digimon is on the rise.

This image is god-fucking-tier.

Also, didn't Digimon games recently start using an artist from the persona series or something?

even if the new games are mediocre I still have 2-5 gens until I replay them so much I get burnt out

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Game?

I don't think so, but the promo images have a similar style. HM also flat out references the dream of the butterfly, just like P1

>Digifags actually believe this
HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

No and this is from someone who likes Digimon. I want it to be Niche here In the states. When Digimon was pushed hard in the states we got a shitty movie and a shitty dub

>People will actually buy Sword and Shield despite it being total shit
>It will probably outsell the entire 3DS era
Why do I live on a planet that has so many idiots? Where objectively shit games can sell millions and millions of copies just on name value, the basis that they used to make good games in 1999. Where cutting off your genitals is now not only considered acceptable, but encouraged by society. Where EA games continue to sell any copies at all, despite them leading the charge in fucking over the consumer. God i hate this planet. I hope Sword and Shield at least gets torn apart by critics if nothing else.

We're talking from a game perspective, right?
Pokemon has been stagnant and aiming for the same crowd for years while Digimon knows that their fanbase is getting older and is making games to target them. Survive seems like a weird remix of the original show mixed with Devil Survivor.

The whole "Mature story" bit always has me laughing because if you think Digimon games have mature stories you're on the same tier of man child as the average Pokémon fan

digimon adventure for the psp.

>ok we need competition for Pokemon so lets copy Pokemon
That's not what Digimon ever was.

>I hope Sword and Shield at least gets torn apart by critics if nothing else.
don't hold your breath. they don't take pokemon seriously enough to criticize it. the only exception were the mystery dungeon games, which got ripped to shreds because journos are too casual for roguelikes.

>How the hell did digimon kill pokemon so quickly?
It didn't. Pokémon killed itself. It's not even that the newest game is so bad that everyone just dropped it; Pokémon has been killing itself for more than half a decade by releasing rushed, shitty, low-content games. Those games sold well so GF then LOWERED the bar with each successive game.
Pokémon fans have been bitching about the games since XY (some longer than that). Sword and Shield just finally got the notice of casuals because of the National Dex purge, and then they looked around and finally noticed how shitty everything else has been for a while.

The reason people are paying attention to Digimon now is because the last couple games have been very well-received and a new port of one of said games is getting released soon, and people are finally saying "well Pokémon's dead, so maybe I should finally give this a look." I'm personally in that camp, probably going to try that one DS game I saw someone recommend in an earlier thread.

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Have you actually played the Cyber Sleuth games? They clearly aren't meant for children

02 may be garbage compared to Adventure and Tamers (and even Frontier and Savers), but its still better than the pokemon anime

What the fuck happened to cause all these pokemon x digimon threads.

Not being kiddy games ≠ Being mature

Feels great that Digimon has more life and discussion now than its had in years. It's a childhood dream come true. If only we had a new decently animated anime series

>Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei
1987
>Dragon Quest V (first one with monster catching)
1992
SMT created the genre

pokemon is shitting itself, so inferiority complex fanbases try to abuse the situation to push their games.
same with WoW and FF14 threads.

Sword and Shield are looking terrible in every single capacity and caused outrage by normalfags (and also hardcore fans but they haven't been happy for a while), and Digimon fans are taking advantage of that by shilling their own series.

Devil Survivor not Persona

Obviously, but it's not like they're going overboard on the gore or tits either. There's a lot of existentialist and arguably transhumanist stuff going on in CS. That not enough for you?

as far as i'm concerned, digimon survive *is* the new anime.

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>so inferiority complex fanbases try to abuse the situation to push their games.
That's why all the vanilla WOW "HOME" threads popped up right?

It's the first game I've been excited for in awhile. It looks like a thought out approach to the digimon lore. And I learned the other day that this is only to tide people over until the next Story game, which is supposed to be the best game to date.

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That's clearly not the case, if anything Survive is going to have more effort put into it than the next Story game. Survive will have no reused assets whatsoever and the next Story game will inevitably have very many.

HM, on the other hand, absolutely was made to tide people over, they said as much themselves.

there's nothing Marcus can't punch

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Do you reckon Digimon would have done better if they didn't call it something that sounds so similar to Pokemon? Like Digidudes or something.

PUNCH

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the new story game is being developed with the ps4 as the base (instead of the weak-ass vita), will take place in the digital world, and isn't a sequel to cyber sleuth. plus, since the story games sell better in the west, they're going to want to impress western audiences. i wouldn't be surprised if it has a tales of arise-tier graphical upgrade.

PUNCH

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I grow more interested in Survive each time they release more information. I'm interested to see how much the player's choices will affect how the story plays out since they already confirmed that there can be one-off evolution based on the character's emotional state so I'm hoping the protagonist can end up with a SkullGreymon moment. I'm also happy that it looks like the protagonist is actually going to be his own character instead of a silent protagonist like the story games which should help story flow and some of the more emotional moments.

I would since every Digimon game is now being developed for the Switch as well. It ain't gonna be that much of a jump

the next story game hasn't been confirmed for anything other than ps4.

KICK

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Every time I think about Survive my mind immediately goes to the SRPG gameplay and totally glosses over the whole part-visual novel aspect. I wish they'd show more of the "VN" side because it's the best part.

PUNCH

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Pokemon on Switch looks like total garbage.
Meanwhile, Cyber Sleuth and its sequel are coming to Switch as a two-in-one $50 package.

does this dude just come in and sock anything that the digimon can't handle?
That would make for a genuinely funny series, like Mike Tyson Digimon Adventures

Please, with all the other games getting Switch ports, it's gonna happen

We have almost no details whatsoever on the next Story game, so it's likely only in the conceptual stages right now anyway

it's the MC and he tries to fight everything

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Is the series actually decent? Or is this the highlight reel?

It didn't, idiot.

next order didn't get a switch port.

the only series i think is decent is Tamers, but next up would be this one. It's Digimon Cops.

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I can't remember exactly how it worked, but he had to punch a digimon and steal some of its data to digivolve his Agumon

IIRC he was a boxer before a tamer and his punching charges his partner's digisoul to digivolve.

it's unironically the second-best season.

Of note, the DS games (Digimon World DS, Dawn/Dusk, and all the japan-only Digimon Story games) are okay to pretty good, all depending on how well you handle surprisingly high encounter rates and a weird/different grinding/EXP system.

wasn't he just a street thug that got offered a police job?

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Although I have a PS4 I really hope it's coming to Xbox One. The fact something as niche as Survive is hitting the Xbone is a really good sign for the next Digimon Story

It's actually my favorite show in the franchise, and not just for le epic punch man either. Good plot, good pacing, some nice character development for everyone, no lame gimmicks, no one feels useless, unlike every show before it, very good stuff. Also best OP

youtube.com/watch?v=9J7rs4soug8

fuck it, I'ma check this out

what's the best season? What this guy said?

It didn't. Pokemon will always be more popular despite doing literally nothing to advance the franchise. Digimon simply doesn't have likeable characters or as good of a premise as Pokemon originally did

Pretty much. I just forget which background was the dub version versus the subbed version.

ABSORB

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It's too bad survivor still has no sate and there has been what, 2 good digimon games in the last decade?

PEE PEE POO PO

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Probably only because they didn't think it would sell. They've said the Story games are what they consider the most marketable property going forward, and they're right, Next 0rder is absolutely the kind of game that is for fans only, much as I enjoyed it.

date

tamers is the best season, then savers, then adventure. those are the only must-watch seasons, though.

So here's the rundown on how Marcus' bullshit works. In Digimon, when you have a Digivice and use it to evolve your partner, you're focusing your emotional energy and spirit through the Digivice like a filter, which then gets sent to your partner as fuel to evolve. In Digimon Savers, the folks with Digivices physically amass this in their hands and pump it through the Digivice on demand.
Marcus is an anomaly, as he basically can't get his spirit high enough to manifest that energy on demand, and the only way he CAN hype himself up enough to do it is punching the shit out of a Digimon, THEN push it through the Digivice.
As for how the punches of this human can rock a Digimon so hard it knocks them flat on their ass, can you possibly imagine the amount of energy required to force a living being to evolve, grow in size and become that much stronger? Now imagine focusing all that energy into a single point the size of a fist and hitting something with it. He's basically a missile fueled on hype and courage.

UNTIL

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it also got a full graphical update for the western release and the switch would melt trying to run it.

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wait a second... is that?

on the right? the switch could definitely handle that. looks kinda bad desu.

Pokemon only exists thanks to Dragonchad Quest

>Pokemon finally getting shat on like it deserves
>Digimon threads become more frequent
>But Yo-kai Watch continues to be ignored
>There was barely a peep out of Yea Forums from 4 releasing and 1 getting announced as a re-release for the Switch
I just can't win.

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It is

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That just goes to show how much of a badass BanchoLeomon is. He WAS his dad's Partner, after all.

But yeah after that he gets even more powerful

make way for the objective best season

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I wish. Digimon may have a resurgence if the next World game is amazing, but Yokai Watch is the only thing that can compete with Pokemon

it will probably get more threads when it gets localized.

Saying this after the wastr of time that was known as tri, hell as much as i love the cyber sleuth games theyre still only in the fine territory but after decades of fucking trash games they where bound to finally have some decent ones and even then its gone from good (sleuth) to meh (order) back to decent (hackers)

You think so? I fell like YW relies too heavily on japanese folklore. Most of the designs are goofy and unappealing to me.

Is that an Appmon next to Lucemon X

YW isn't even a multibillion dollar franchise yet. Wasn't YW4 an absolute flop anyway?

Beats me, I didn't watch Appmon. Looks like it though

yo-kai watch isn't popular or well-known outside of japan. digimon has avid fanbases in the west, china and korea.

yes:
wikimon.net/Timemon

I want to get into Digimon, would you say that Dawn/Dusk would be a good game to start with?

No, that game is absolute garbage, with number of Digimon being its only redeeming quality. Start with CS

If you want to get into the monster-collecting RPG part of the franchise then yeah. Cyber Sleuth makes so many QoL changes to the formula that going back to Dusk/Dawn is painful.

Only in Japan, not worldwide. YW actually beated Pokemon in sales. I think it beat ORAS in sales.

Try it out. I really like Dawn/Dusk. Pretty grindy but I still have played through a couple times.

so thats what FOX engine is for now dang

I have no idea what you enjoy about it, because the game is literally just about grinding. There's almost no plot to speak of, no animations to enjoy, no interesting battle mechanics, no level design. Just grinding.

I find it comfy. I like the farm and following pokemon, the battle system isn't amazing but it's one that I enjoy spending time with. I'm not saying it's a good game, but I do like it a lot.

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following digimon*
lmao

Digimon still exists? lmao

Now real question, who has the best waifus?

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is it really even a question?

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take a wild guess.

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You're in the club and this guy punches your girlfriend's ass. What do you do?

Are you fucking blind or can't see the gigantic pile of high tier waifus Digimon has?

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Survive was coming to Steam, right? My weeb machine broke so I can't play Next Order or SRW games anymore

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Yes. Steam, PS4 and Switch.

>retard defending pokemon posts offtopic twitternigger meme
Every time

Pokemon, literally the only reason people can even bother still posting about it
Digimon has better titty monsters though

Sorry user, I cannot remotely get into Yo-Kai Watch's designs.

you don't catch monsters in smt

that's the appealof the games though

You don't catch them in Digimon either (outside of like a single game that no one ever discusses) and I doubt you catch them in YW either

>tamagotchi for boys
Wait, tamagotchi was suppose to be for girls?

What Digimon game should I play right now?

Is all fault of the stupid C and lower designs they are all shit, the good designs start at B and get generally better on each rank with S being the best looking ones.

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Digimon world championship for the DS, aka: the stress and impotency simulator, the dark souls of tamagotchi games.

Nonsense, Digimon World Championship has nothing on IRL child rearing

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7.7, while this Pokemon game will without a doubt get a 9+. Deal with it.

The design that saved Digimon.

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It didn't really, Game Freak just got super complacent and got backlash as a result. Props to Digimon for doing alright with vidya though.

too bad the only good digimon game is Digimon world 1

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Who cares national dex?
You just don't have $ 300 for buy Switch?

>get 3 digimon
>evolve and train them as normal
>prepare you digimon for preliminaries
>manage to win preliminaries
>not so bad
>world tournament soon to come
>all 3 digimon become eggs
>try evolve them all at the same time as fast as you can
>some of them need fights to evolve
>some of them need specific rooms to evolve
>they get tired and have to rest and eat all the time
>if you fail to train them they will evolve into something shitty or that you don't want
>on top of that you have to train them as Megas
>all 3 of them at the same time
>it takes a fuck while of time
>still have to manage the other digimon you have around for minor medal stuff or backup
>world tournament right next to come
>pushing the training and evolving and healing and fighting and resting for all the digimon as fast as you can
>world tournament day
>1 fully trained Mega, 1 half assed trained Mega, 1 freshly evolved Mega or even worse an Ultimate
>get your shit stomped because 5 consecutive battles and you didn't had backup Megas
>gg no re see you in 4 in-game years lmao
Is truly soul crushing how bullshit the game can get, specially if they become eggs right before an important fight.

It's a show made to sell toys to 7 year olds, just like Pokemon.

Nothing will kill the kino that was the original Adventure's charm or Tamers as a whole. The 3 part movie aired in the states cemented Digimon being a cult classic.

Thinking about it, I doubt any nuPokefag cares or even knows about the first 3 Pokemon movies at this point. The fact the first one is getting CGI'd and looks like shit, is going to be sad if that's some newfags first take on the first movie.

fix your English first, cabron

Gear Savanna best BGM

Do you retards still compare Digimon to Pokemon?
Thier nothing alike besides the name being similar

and you know, that tiny fact that they're both monster collection rpgs

then SMT is the same as pokemon and digimon, as are some gacha games except no they aren't because anyone that isn't a braindead buffoon could tell you that outside of that one idea, the properties are nothing alike.

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SMT is absolutely like them you fucking idiot.
literally the same subgenre of rpgs.