SSBU 4.0 Patch Notes

>Mega Man remains unchanged
>Simon can't glide across the stage anymore

>tfw play Jiggs, Falcon and Lucina
Don't know what I expected

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>Ike unchanged
>Lucas buffs
Neat

>Ridley buffs
Nice.

>Samus Nerfed

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>Trainer Fixed
>Ivysaur Nerfed
>Charizard Buffed
>Squirtle Ignored

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>Pit buffs
>Palu unchanged
>Joker basically unchanged
>Young Link unchanged
>Cloud unchanged
Feels good. Wish Cloud could have a bit more range with Nair but oh well.

>no sheik damage buffs
RIP

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this might be a buff, it apparently makes it so people don't fall out of her Up Smash so much

>Simon can't glide across the stage anymore

What do you mean? They only changed his down air.

YAAAASSSSSS

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what changes did Lucas get?

No, it means that Samus’ Up Smash will do less knockback if you don’t connect all the hits

i want him to mating press me

He can spam PK in the air with less punishments

I’ll see you guys on the battlefield

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Nothing

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Dash attack is active for longer
Side tilt's hitbox is bigger at the beginning of the move and the sweetspot launches further
The invulnerability period at the start of up smash is longer
Up air has less recovery
Aerial PK Fire has less recovery upon landing

>Minor toad buff
>insignificant parasol nerf
>Daisy's first jab sound is back

Ok

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Falco got nothering and ritcher is the same basically

Give it to me straight, anons. Did Falcon get nerfed?

Ridley got buffs. Mewtwo got buffs. R.O.B. got 1 tiny change that affects nothing. So I'm good.

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He was ignored

Our time in the sun has come at last

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DK: It's a buff I guess...
Ike: Nothing.

He's 100% untouched.

give it to me straight, bros. did they nerf muh mains?

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>Immediately descend when using the attack after being launched.

What does this mean

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What compels a grown man to have wojaks saved on to his computer?

>bayo and bowser dair buffs
It's not much but I will take it.

There's a weird ass glitch with dive attack type moves that when you use em after being launched, they get no momentum and you just float there doing the attack animation without it going downwards. Now that doesn't happen so you immediately dive even after launching.

That wasn't a glitch though, it's just how the game worked.

Stall then falls used to float in the air if the character was launched upward. That's been fixed. Like say of toon link was launched upward and then tried to do his down air right afterwards. He'd just float in the air instead of going downward

>smaller hitbox
>buffed up smash
>buffed back throw
>buffed side special
I AM GROWING STRONGER

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Seems Sakurai disagrees and had that fixed according to and

>What compels a grown man to have wojaks saved on to his computer?
>Smash bros proteck me my main the Onion Swordsman got nerfed today pls who iwll be next confirmed vroooooos? I'm so excite

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Haven't met many Mewtwos, would a movement speed buff be the deal sealer? If I remember correctly that was the particular change that turned Mewtwo from a scrub into a monster back in sm4sh

Little Mac mains, you have my sympathy.

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>Joker got nerfed slightly
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED TWINKS

>buffs buffs buffs

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I wouldn't call him slow but more speed would be great. Side B getting quicker is a godsend.

No ness changes??

They would have fixed it right away if it was a glitch since it's pretty major and I think it was in Smash 4 as well.The devs probably didn't want the player to come back to the stage right after getting launched but they changed their mind and removed the mechanic.

I don't even understand that description. These translations are shit

I mean the biggest thing holding Mewtwo back in Ult was the tail hitbox. No joke his get up roll animation gave him a hitbox that was half the size of Wario Ware.

>Robin 2.0 coming out is already bad enough
>don't even get a single bone thrown our way
I'm just so deflated while everyone is so hyped

its more of a bugfix then anything

Characters with the same DAir properties could move either left or right a bit by using the attack right after getting launched and without jumping

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>all these people caring about patch notes for a party game
I love Smash, but lets not act like balance matters. This game was made for fun banter with people in your own household. The fact that the new DLC character has built-in RNG reinforces this.
I've played thousands of hours of Smash with my family and friends through the years, but this shit is not a fighting game. And I've even won Smash tournaments that I've entered just for fun.

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>Robin 2.0
I can see that, but they feel quite different in my opinion to play as.

You admitted in a thread you liked SFV. Your opinion is less credible than even a smelleefag.

I do like SFV. Tell me how this makes you feel.

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My big brown cock is forcibly stretching out Menat's love tunnel while you watch in the corner.

robin players are very dumb
they can't even count up to 3

see pic related
what a stupid robin player haha he's so mad

It really is similar to the obsession with boobs. Except they are desired to be firm instead of soft

>Lucas, Mewtwo and Ridley buffs
>Ridley's up special finally got a proper buff
Thank you Sakurai

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Simon could move across stages using that? Wow I didn't know, sad they removed it.

You tell me.

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>Ridley got a fuckton of buffs
RIDLEYCHADS WHERE WE AT

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That's fair.
I play Shulk. I love Smash. I just don't think it's competitive - and if it is competitive, that's not the enjoyable way of playing it.
Free-for-all with items is peak Smash.

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>Caring about small, miniscule changes to characters
If you were actually good at the game, it wouldnt matter

I don't think my main has been touched a single time since release.

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M-my pee pee feels funny

I'll main Robin and I will fucking kill every single one of you

>en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/47012
At least reply correctly you retarded cucknigger

>with items

FFA is the true Smash experience but not with items, they're stupidly broken in this game. Items in general got really bad with Smash 4.

buffed.

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>DURRFF BETTUR ROBIN HURRR
They play nearly entirely differently. None of their spells function remotely similarly
Shut the fuck up, any of you saying this haven't touched Robin for more than an hour

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BROS

Can I buy the Mii costumes yet? Is there a nintendo.com page for them?

Absolutely based

>Wario (Un)Touched
>Palu unchanged
>Ness no change
>Pac-man can hold his fruit a bit better
>Richter gets the universal Down-Air Fall change
Dunno what the very latter means but it's been mostly neutral for me.

Why would you want to buy that?

Rise up

Items have been shit since 4. Half the stuff just flat out kills your. Items were the best in melee, brawl was good too but pushing it

Pictochat / WarioWare only
Now that’s the true Smash experience.

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Joker got a slight nerf but nothing too major which is fine.

>they actually nerfed Samus
>again
what
fucking
WHY

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>he only goes all items or not
>he doesn't pick

Is Hero broke?

I want to save Dragon Ball video replays and play as Yamcha.

...

Get smoked.

So I could be the little girl

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She deserves it, she better keep getting nerfed until you can KO her in seconds so no one would ever use it

Which one

They're pushing into a keep-away with RNG elements

Kind of a lackluster patch compared to the last one desu

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Yellow backgrounds untouched, green is buffed. Went pretty well for me.

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I FUCKING TOLD YOU RIDLEYFAGS THAT SAKURAI DIDN'T HATE THE BIG GUY

why you gotta say mean things like that family

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>NOOO RIDLEY PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME BEHIND WE'RE BROS
>Haha sorry Rool don't worry somebody might pick you up as a gimmick secondary eventually

Ridley will never get a big win lmao.
Fuck off space niggers.

What? Melee items were dogshit. By far the worst they've ever been. Just bland crap that was badly thought out. There's a reason cloaking device and spinner fucked off forever.

Don't worry bro, they're both still going to be shit

Discounting Stage Maker and Shared Contents, Version 3.0.0 was a lackluster patch too

Wait for a 4.1.0, guys

R.O.B. got a change, but I don't speak "can't shower to save my life" so I can't tell if it's good or not.

We'll see. Didn't care much about stage builder but interested in online tourney.

Why is his arm pit breathing.

Finally.

WTF I'm gay now?

Faggots don't know anything about the real world so they just draw ugly crap.

ROB has a nerfed sour spot, It's practically a mildly bad thing because ROB is a keep-away. I don't see anyone using a jab as ROB, though

IT'S NOT FAIR BROS MUH MAIN OH MY FREAKING LORD HOES MAD WHY DID THEY NERF PANGENDER WOLFKIN FAGS
MY MOTHER WANTS ME TO PACK MY THINGS FOR I HAVE BEEN A TRANNY LOSER FOR TOO LONG SAVE ME SOIVROOOOS I WANT TO KEEP TAKING PART IN ROSTER THREADS AND OPENING MY MOUTH WIDE AND BIG AS FAR AS THE UNIVERSE ALLOWS ME, I'M ON MY LATE 20S I STILL HAVE TIME TO WASTE WITH CHILDREN'S TOYS I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FAMILY ANYWAYS WHO COULD PUT A SON IN THIS CRUEL WORLD OH MY GOD LGBT BROOOOOS BANJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN MY FACE IS WET HOOOOLY SHIT I NEED A SOILENT

I STINK SO MUCH BUT I WANNA PLAY HERO. WHATEVER I BET MY IDOL MANGO DOESN'T EVEN SHOWER AND HE'S THAT GOOD

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>only sonic and speed shulk are capable of running right over lloid trap now
>bunch of other nice buffs

FUCKING BASED

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Online is up bros

You can appreciate the male body without being gay. I know because despite the fact that I fap to it I'm still not gay.

HAHAHA

YES

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Why the fuck is Mario Bros playable in the tournament mode
Who thought this was a good idea.

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I agree, but honestly feels kinda broke. RNG insta-kills.
RNG crits that kill at 50%, Instant "Do not die" spell

Now swallow the cum.

What?

>SwordFighter got a meaningless buff.

I don't get it, why not just nerf the tornado and buff everything else? The character is incredibly lopsided in it's balance.

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Ridley got fucking up smash buff and command grab buff and bair buff. Now Ridley joins the list of poorly designed Heavies

>bowser barely altered, could technically be considered a buff
All good here

>doing that legendary DQ spirit
>always go villager because his tree is pretty good from what I can tell
>keep getting my ass kicked by the last 2 battles
>go as my guy Ridley with the akuma spirit just to see what happens
>fucking annihilate everyone
I get that Ridley was buffed but holy shit

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Yeah it seems that the starman hitbox viewer is currently inaccurate for mewtwo, his tail was properly fixed holy shit.

Its*

I believe that both Ridley and K. Rool are bros but would shank each other in a heartbeat, especially Ridley

What attacks even do more than 50% damage?

smell it

>no pk fire nerfs
why?

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Because you're shit and it doesn't need nerfed.

Nerfed again, but it's to be expected at this point

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So will this "Ultimate is well-balanced" meme end?

literally who uses blurring blade is my question

also is brawler back to being an ultra-fast faller now? oof

based

CLOUD DIDN'T GET SHIT

Based ESL favela Ness

I don't want much. I just want Kirby to get a buff for his inhale. Ideally give him the same startup/endlag as Dedede. Over buffing it would be allowing him to inhale multiple projectiles allowing you to spit them out into a bigger/stronger star, but I'm fine if that's never added. Ultimate has my favorite iteration of kirby by far, but he still gets tossed around in certain match ups.

>people still post this one
>despite the guy being called out for lying, possibly not even being at the event in question due to nobody being able to corroborate his attendance, and fucking off of Twitter after
Smashies have problems, but Jesus christ, use real shit against them, not bullshit hearsay.

>range on Purple pikmin buffed

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>Side-b still doesn't recover after being hit
>Counter still doesn't charge KO punch to help deal with projectiles
>Grab game is still not improved

Why would you do this to us soccer guy?

>despite the guy being called out for lying
are we basing truth on wishful thinking now
also I'm offended that you think I, or just about anybody here, can't see through your falseflagging. you insult me :(

The fucking balancing team is retarded, these patches get worse every time. Seriously a shitload of characters have more than 4 useless moves and others are just straight up garbage compared to others. The only character I think is actually balanced is R.O.B.

My boy made it through unscathed. No changes are perfect, very happy about this.

Where my Snake bros at?

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Wow you've won a local against bad players? You must truly be the preeminent expert on all things fighting games then.

Pichu wasn’t touched

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>Brawler air speed back to 3.0.0

What does this mean?

Stay in denial bro, we're all faggots now.

>Bowser's Down Air
>Immediately descend when using the attack after being launched.
Good. This shit was fucking annoying. Now my attacks will actually work.

>Ridley's stall-then-fall dair didn't get a note for that
Does that mean it's still wonky when he gets launched?

K. Rool is my main, fight me.

boy do i love having all my moves robbed by a fucking newcomer that has to deal with none of the drawbacks either

3.1 decreased brawler’s fall speed to its smash 4 value and now they changed it back again

Apparently they did mention that in the Japanese patch notes

here, everyone was expecting snake to get nerfed. Considering one of his worst matchups (ivysaur) got nerfed, this patch was actually a stealth buff for snake! yay!

I don't know if its just me missing shit or has Meta-Knight been the longest character that just hasn't gotten a change in anything in all?

No buffs, no nerfs, hes just been the same. Or am I missing something?

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Smash isn't a fighting game, so what does it matter?
I just played Hero for an hour with my brother, and he's insanely fun. Probably one of the most hilarious characters in the game. Ironic, considering he's the least competitive.

Cute pairing.

Who the fuck gets turned on by veins?

> Least competitive
> Motherfucker gets a Thoron that charges faster than Samus's charge shot and has a hitbox the size of a reddittor's mom, inflicts 40%
> Many instakill moves
> Three different types of Elwind that gimps & stage spike

....Yeah, the Toys'R'Us version of Robin doesn't look overpowered at aaaaall

>> Many instakill moves
Crit hit isn't an insta kill move
Freeze isn't an insta kill move
Snooze isn't an insta kill move
Magic Boom isn't an insta kill move
Kamikaze is an ironic insta kill move
Metal Slash isn't an insta kill move in the competitive set up

Dracula

Can you keep a down b pocketed for use later?

My boy Diddy stayed the same.

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Drac ain't gay, he has a son.

I think you need to experience the joy of getting instakilled by an uncharged Fsmash at 0% so you can tell me again how it's not Instakill.

>be fucking around with friend
>thwack
>thwack
>whackity whack
holy shit the chimpouts this move can cause

it's a masculinity thing
so fucking ripped even your veins bulge

>Wolf is safe
>but Zelda remains as she is
>Ridley got a few buff though which is nice
Overall I'm fine with this.

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>I think it was in Smash 4 as well
This has been here since brawl.

Explain in detail how it is not a fighting game please. So sick of this garbage argument the game can ALSO be a party game but it is a fighting game and obviously a competitive one at that otherwise they would not bother with balance patches.

>Wow I cherry picked two items
nice

>Free-for-all with items is peak Smash.
literally anything pis peak fun with friends

>Patch notes are on the fucking support website
????????

how garbage are you to get hit by hero's fucking Fsmash?

Down airs working properly is enough for me. Overall, very fair patch. Happy for all the buffs.

>only change was a bug fix to dair stalling randomly
Bowser proving once again he is the ultimate balanced character

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>Snake bros
Snake is cancer in this game. I'll stick with PM Snake.

That's what I thought too but it's been a long time since I haven't played Brawl so I didn't want to say any bullshit.

That's two more examples than you had
Melee items are dogshit and you know it

thirsty for kirby buffs pleas anyone

>Mii Brawler | Basic Movements | Reverted falling speed to match version 3.0.0

Fuck. There goes the F-air autocancel...

you know what

FUCK BUFFS
FUCK NERFS
FUCK FIXING A BUG THAT ACTUALLY BUFFED THE CHARACTER IN A CREATIVE WAY
FUCK FIXING THE BUGS THAT FUCKING NERF YOUR CHARACTER
AND FUCK THWACK

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You got a buff
It's called moving the character select onto Hero

>No Palutena nerfs

LONG LIVE THE QUEEN.

Ridley got buffed to the fucking moon and back, I'm speechless

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They probably just thought “fuck, we don’t really have the time to rework any of his kit... fuck it, just buff some numbers.” I’m not complaining though.

Are you fucking gay? Why wouldn't you want to be vascular?

>Mewtwo buffed once again
Absolutely BASED

Too bad K.Rool got nothing

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I've come to terms with the fact that he will just never get anything good as far as buffs go, so at least they didn't make him any worse

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>No Joker nerfs
>Barely and G&W buffs
fuck this gay earth.

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