>Stop shoving politics in my games!
Stop shoving politics in my games!
Half Life and Wolfenstein are really out of place there
how is half life political? gman?
Why the fuck Deus Ex is there
These games weren't political in the sense they were making a comment on modern society
The politics were superficial in support of gameplay mechanics or setting.
Half life wasn't political in any sense of the word, nor was Wolf3d
>politics in pic related
>we have politics in those to make you think about it in your way
>politics in nugames
>we have politics that we want to force down your throat and our view is the right one
>Wolfenstein 3D
Go destroy Germany because they are the enemy of WW2, oh shit Cyborg Hitler
>FF7
Go stop Sephiroth from using the planet's life force for his own good
>Alpha Centuri
Go colonize other planets
>Half Life
How the fuck do you get a political message from Half Life
>Metal Gear
Terrorists have a nuke, go fuck them up
>Fallout
Granted.
>C&C Red Alert
Silly AU but granted
>Deus Ex
I wouldn't call it politics, rather conspiracies
not sure if bait or just retarded
I think he meant to pit Gunman Chronnicles instead of HL
Stop letting politics use games rather than games use politics
There's a difference between politics and SJW degeneracy.
people don't really care about politics in games
they just really hate blacks and women and gays and hide it behind "muh identity politics" buzzword
This. It’s not politics when it doesn’t comment on trump or the state of America today, but you make one kill nazi joke or let blacks and gays into your video games and suddenly the incels are on full offense.
lmao, if FFVII released today Yea Forums would have a fit
>ex-mil joins ecoterrorists in a plot to bomb a corporation
There is a difference between political themes such as "nukes r bad" in MGS, and the leftist propaganda that's in modern burger/yuro games
There's a difference between politics and propaganda
>it’s no political if I agree with it
keep drinking that kool aid virgins
Which game do you want? The one wich ask a question or the one wich tell you what tho think?
Same with VtMB.
it's not that games are political, it's that they pander to the highest bidder
And Bioshock would get labeled as being communist propaganda
>American government decides to murder its own citizens in a cover-up
>Marines portrayed as bloodthirsty psychos while scientists are portrayed nobly
>Implied that almost everyone on Earth is unconsciously following the whims of secret conspiracies
the difference is these games have nuance and aren't simple tranny propaganda
If pic related was talking about Trump or Pence and was released today you'd all bitch about it too
>Metal Gear
>Not tranny propaganda
Refer to .
>Marines portrayed as bloodthirsty psychos while scientists are portrayed nobly
If you say so.
How is Nines wrong?
I never liked mgs personally, it's a moviegame any way
even so it has more nuance than that with its moral statements mostly serving the story and characters rather than the other way around
Check behind the scenes.
fallout.fandom.com
cope, I don't want to be lectured about modern politics by lefty pandering gamedev faggots
>b-but old games did it!
They also had giant titties, why does this double standard exist where we should accept retarded political propaganda in games because MUH OLD GAMES DID IT but all other changes to games are okay because MUH CHANGE IS NEEDED?
>halo
>9/11
end your life
theres a difference between those politics and nu-identity politics
truth be told people are just sick of obnoxious dykes/fags dictating what everyone should like and think.
If it wasn't for this America wouldn't have a pathetic clown for president
That's actually clever. You can't find thing as well made as this in modern titles.
People already have been bitching about it for the pop culture references
When people mean stop shoving politics in there games they mean liberal shit and you know it OP. Stop pretending to be a centrist.
t. someone who doesnt understand the difference between politics in world building/storytelling(which nobody has a problem with) and censoring/banning/changing stuff because some tranny forgot to dilate and is now without cruise control while screeching about politics
seriously: learn.the.fucking.difference!
>Stop [awkwardly] shoving [current year progressive propaganda] in my games!
People used to like politics in games and used to like discussing politics in games because:
(a) The political content came from a place of creative honesty
(b) You could discuss politics and share your opinions without crybabies getting offended and organizing a twitter mob to harass your employer until they fire you for being a nazi.
Politics were secondary or implicit in many of those examples. As an example, Wolfenstein wasn't directly trying to preach a message, it just used nazis and their weirdness for a good foundation to do weird shit like mechahitler and later pseudo-horror demons. By modern standard Nu-Wolfenstein tries too hard to make political statements and allusions to real life situations instead of just putting all focus into being as weird and campy as possible(note: its still weird and campy, but not as much as it should or could be. Even then the weird and camp is to further a political agenda in the most blunt easy to consume way possible)
>Game A is made by a bunch of socialist millennials
>it tells you that capitalism = bad and that men = evil
>it also indulges in "progressive" virtues such as sexual deviance
>game turns out to be very preachy and many people involved in creating it openly show their disdain for gamers
>game usually isn't fun to play but looks superficially pretty and gets high praise from woke games media
this is what we refer to when we say stop shoving YOUR politics into our games
>Game B is a game made by a bunch of proper nerds
>game has internal political system that might be inspired by but is not blatantly copied from current real world politics or history
>game explores its fictional system in ways that we might not think about in our day to day lives
>game is made to be appealing to gamers and can be enjoyed for gameplay alone even by those who don't care about the underlying themes
I will now buy your game
Every single game in the OP is leftist.
Political issues in games are fine. It's just pretty painful to see a game passionately take the socially acceptable stance on very widely discussed issues, as if it's a notable thing to do.
There was not anything really political in Wolfenstein 3D. It was just a run and gun FPS. You could mod the game to replace the enemies with NKVD and Red Army personnel and change the propaganda images to Soviet ones. In fact, there is even a mod taking place during the Cold War and involves fighting commies.
By the way, I wish the real original Wolfenstein would get some attention.
As for FF7, there is a revelation that the motives of AVALANCHE were more personal than political and that saving the planet from literally dying was simply an added motivation. They are kind of like the "environmentalists" who have daddy issues except the FF7 cast grew up and realized their own self-righteousness.
>it tells you that capitalism = bad and that men = evil
Name three (3) games that do this.
>Red Alert
>political
>Killing mecha Hitler is political
Shut the fuck up.
shit thread
Well that's capitalism then, isn't it
Mirror's Edge
Night In The Woods
Recettear
Leftist in the since of trying to bring people into a way of thinking about said problems. They don't demonize and blatantly attack the other side under blankets of propaganda.
When you're playing a game that just somehow """coincidentally""" manages to tick every box in the progressive demand list and is dominated by narratives that overtly confirm their (warped) worldview and prejudices at every opportunity, it's propaganda.
>Recettear
If anything, it tells that capitalism is _ho!
yeah that was back before the left went completely insane sometime around 2012-2013. Yes the crazy elements always existed and there was a notable thrust of Political Correctness in the 90s but the current plague didn't really exist then and exerted minimal influence on creative people. They were far more worried about conservative mothers.
The kids grew up and loved to shovel shit into their mouths once they had their own money to spend. Who is to fault for the poop supplier for never learning otherwise?
>stop shoving hamfisted retardedly written political "commentary" in my games!
ftfy famalamadingdong
Trump was also a leftist when these games released
The only two games in that list I would qualify as political are Deus Ex and Metal Gear Solid.
>Confusing in-game worldbuilding and throwaway lines with political content
Also, "Masses good, elite bad" is a bromide that has been repeated since time immemorial. Remember that people who insist that everything is or must be political are just looking for a way to shove propaganda into your mouth.
but also the other way round. if you say nowadays that any leftist idea put in a game might be good Yea Forums would sperg the fuck out
Deus Ex is Libertarian if anything. not sure about the others except FF7 which is protecting the plants. A much more persuasive topic than "kill that ebil nahzee no more white males"
Half-Life wasn't overtly political but its entire story with an evil government conspiracy, classified immoral bio-weapons projects, and dumb brutish bloodthirsty government goons came straight out of the political climate of the mid 90s. Skepticism towards the federal government for Waco and the Iran-Contra Affair pardons and the popularity of conspiracy thrillers like The X-Files meant an American developer could get away with a game where the hero basically massacres a battalion of moronic (judging by their inability to spell "you're"), trigger-happy black ops soldiers.
Trust in the U.S. federal government hit a nadir around the time HL1 started development in the mid-90s.
people-press.org
that's a really clumsy and awkward analogy for a very complex problem involving postmodern academia, the rapid spread of the internet in particular the rise of social media, and perverted political incentives (to import dirt-worlders to complain about white people and vote against the party of white people).
Sure but nobody really cares about Yea Forums. You can't even prove it's not some false-flagging troll doing it on purpose to generate controversy attention.
there's also the problem that most leftist ideas currently popular are objectively retarded and almost invariably lead to shit content. (It's not like there are games talking about universal healthcare. It's all gender+identify politics bullshit)
Halo's story was absolutely influenced by Islamic fundamentalism. It was big in the news well before 9/11, and went into overdrive after 9/11. This wasn't exclusive to Halo: over the last two and a half decades or so, the greatest threat to 'civilization' in the popular imagination comes in the form of fanatical extremist religious cults (as opposed to before then, where it was Communists, or before then, where it was Fascists). Thus the Covenant; a highly advanced, fanatically religious, threat to civilization, which cannot be negotiated or bargained with. Since I keep an eye on some tabletop war gaming, two other examples to immediately spring to mind are the Word of Blake Jihad (BattleTech) and the Cygnar-Menoth war (Iron Kingdoms). (Respectively, fanatical technology cult declares war on all other states, using religion and memetics to control people, and throwing nuclear weaponry around; and a fanatical monotheist theocracy from a desert kingdom going on a crusade to take over and convert a more liberal steampunk kingdom.) Another example? The Brotherhood of Nod, perhaps? (C&C) Or in Supreme Commander, notice how one of the main bad guys, again, was the fanatical self-sacrificing extremist religion?
It's not even just the Covenant's religious fanaticism. I think the Insurrection are dirty terrorists because of the War on Terror. It's quite transparent: the UEG/UNSC are Space America, real America fights terrorists, therefore Space America fights Space Terrorists. The bits with the Insurrectionists near the start of The Fall of Reach feel a lot like they're about elite American commandos training to fight al-Qaeda.
>I wouldn't call it politics, rather conspiracies
The biggest of cope-stretches
It's undeniable that all of those games would get shat on if they released today for shoving politics.
Ryan failed because he violated his libertarian principles.
>Last of Us 2
Go kill zombies and survive
>Wolfenstein 2
Go kill nazis
WOW, DUDE!!!!!! SUCH POLITICS!
>no more white males
Has any game actually said this? Can you even name one? Because Wolfenstein 2 didn't say this. The Last of Us didn't say this.
Literal hypocrisy, /pol/ is just as bad if not worse than the sjw's they seethe at so much
The 50cent game
>jc has conversations about politics with random people
>"haha it's just silly conspiracies I dont know what you're talking about :)"
how was half-life political in any way
ok retard
usually when I see these posts and go check out the actual games, lots of relevant details have been left out.
SJWs always lie.
i agree but name 1 good integration of politics in a game this decade
I
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The first C&C or Generals would be a better pick over Red Alert IMO. Both of them practically predicted the future.
seethe more polack
I remember even before the arguments over "the politics of games" started in the mid-2010s (Gamergate probably triggered that more than anything else, even if that wasn't the original goal), lefties got extremely mad at Bioshock 2 and Bioshock Infinite for respectively showing that socialists can totalitarian as and tyrannical as the worst right-wingers in pursuit of their Utopian goals and that plucky rebels in civil wars almost always radicalize and become utterly murderous and indiscriminate due to how dehumanizing civil wars and repressive regimes are in the first place. They argued that it made a false equivalence between them and the villains of Bioshock 1 and the other two thirds of Bioshock Infinite, those being an Objectivist ideologue and an ultra-racist, ultra-xenophobic, hyper-jingoistic government modeled on the most ghoulish extremes of American Exceptionalism.
Amusingly, Bioshock Infinite's position was completely validated (again) barely a few months after its release, when the factions fighting the ethnicist, repressive, murderous Syrian government radicalized and became almost completely dominated by Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Spec Ops: The Line
>90s/00s
>leftist vidya
One of HL2's big themes are about the importance of freedom VS security
HL1 has, uh, the military as an antagonist, I guess
You CAN read it as "fascism bad", which is hardly political and brave ; then again "gay people exist" also isn't political, it's just shitty writing
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
>literally can't see the agenda
they leave out all of the controversial political issues in wolfenstein like "the nazis were bad guys". literally sjw propaganda
t. Another retard that sees politics in everything because he’s a retard
This is true for OP and /pol/zoomers (who are the same thing)
Any work which presents a social or economical system is political.
ok
at least those games have redeeming qualities. they didn't seem too shoehorned in.
>there are niggers in this video game, must be an evil political agenda
You are fucking delusional.
nu-politics
>umm being a white male is racist.
That's because you were a kid and didn't notice any of it.
I miss when political games were made by people who had any fucking idea what they were talking about, rather than loser communist homosexuals.
Democratization of the means of coding was a mistake.
>old games made you think about politics and make up your own mind about who was in the right.
>modern games tell you what and how to think about politics, and its always "Republicans bad m'kay"
Art asks you to think about ths content. Propoganda tells you what to think about the content. Try again faggots.
Do you think a nigger should be the default character in a video game in the western world, home of white man? Yes or no?
52% of gamers are women
no it should be native american
That isn’t clever at all. It’s literally putting a real life VP in a video game and slightly changing his name. If someone did that with Trump or Pence everyone would bitch. The only reason why no one complains now is because Trump supporters are boomers with dementia or zoomers who don’t know or remember who Dan Quayle is
Wolf was not political until bethesda got ahold of it, it was way more focused on the occult side of nazism you would know that if you ever played any wolf game made before this decade.
Deus ex was like a bunch of dudes in texas listening to alex jones on the radio and making a game of it. If you dont see the alex jones influence in the game its because youre retarded
Did that image break your brain or something? None of these games say that at all.
Only if you include cell phone and browser games
excluding mobile shit like candy crush it falls to .5%
>Deus Ex
>Not political
Literally the opening mission contains crucial redpills.
if the game is good they will play it regardless of the game devs personal opinions.
>D-d-doesn't count!!
We must end white men as the default in video games.
>trump is senator Armstrong
If this were true I’d actually vote for him. He was based.
Deus Ex has tons of actual politics in it, did you even play the game?
too bad the type of people that desire that stuff are garbage game designers and suck at writing.
Everyone did bitch. Mafia 3 has a Trump stand in named Truss
I wish vidya was mature enough to have some political commentary that wouldn't be "fascism bad"
I want to start the United Mojave Communes in Fallout New Vegas
It's a literal propaganda slideshow. Somehow, SJWs are the people that bark the loudest so the shareholders ask the devs to put some thing here and there for good boy points. That's how you end up with Solider "I sucked" 76 (dicks)
I don't mind it at all ; it's just obviously for diversity points and it's taking a bland character from a shitty game.
It literally says that western European white men shouldn't be the default character in western a European video game. Why should it be ended?
Women can have all the characters in candy crush, I'm completely fine with that
>Politics in games used to be properly fitted into the theme of the game and were not placed in just to appeal to certain sexual identities and (((buzzwords))). Also, politics were limited in their scope and they didn't appear in all games like today.
It doesn't count
>Half-Life
>political
are you that faggot who tried to argue that Tetris is political?
>Somehow, SJWs are the people that bark the loudest so the shareholders ask the devs to put some thing here and there for good boy points.
I know, that's half of my point.
The image isn't from a video game. Did you think it was a screenshot of wolfenstein or something?
>alex jones invented conspiracy theories
>alex jones invented people not trusting the government
what does that have to do with anything? Alex jones is political nigger amd I just said it was alex jones the game specifying the type of politics youre going to get when diving into that.
The strawman cope
I'm pretty sure he saw the Alex Jones edit with Deus Ex music and that's his entire concept of Deus Ex
Fuck gun control race war now
It was a reply to a post that left out all the relevant details of the games it was talking about. It's easy to simplify everything to an absurd degree.
he didn't but the ion storm headquarters would have got him on the radio you fuckin retard
This is cringe because you haven't played metal gear
got me there you retarded zoomer or maybe its cause ion storm would have been getting alex over the air and who doesnt wanna listen to that shit? way better than the trash pop music on the radio or faggot rock
>I wouldn't call it politics, rather conspiracies
Meanwhile, in Deus Ex
>Multiple references to political ideology
>The whole setting is a world where the middle class is dying out and the elite are thriving over a downtrodden poor underclass
>Every conspiracy has some reference to real world politics
>Terrorist leader dropping literal facts that have gotten more depressing since
>every ending of the game is a political statement.
Also
>Go colonize other planets
youtube.com
Yet somehow you can grasp Fallout being poltical?
>they just really hate blacks and women and gays
but what's wrong with that?
nothing user youre doing gods work
>I didnt notice it when i was a kid so obviously it wasnt there
cuz le racism and miso soggy knees are le bad
Whats wrong with hating straight white males?
i noticed it but didnt care.
Go shoot up garlic festival you incel
we dindu nuffin, everything you blame on us was actually the jews or free masons
And you think you became a better person by posting that?
trump is actually the president from metal wolf chaos
D-d-doesn't count!
ITT: Butthurt swedes whose game isn't selling.
It should be up to the game developers what their protagonist is.
MGR:R
Valhalla (The bartender game)
>/pol/cel cope
All those games are from before G*merGate
nice bait
>tumblr is more self aware and intelligent than leftists on Yea Forums
Holy shit lol
Make sure you real patriots get metal wolf chaos on the 6th when it drops, we will enjoy a good game while these blue haired vaginas bleed.
Dude leftist has always done this, literally the have to
A republican is a socialist going the speeding limit
Its more apolitcal to me, then libertarian
When people say they don't want politics in games, they mean they don't want retarded californian politics that are about as subtle as getting your head caved in by a sledgehammer.
The issue here is one is more about direct identity politics
>The first C&C
>predicted the future.
Where's my fucking Tiberium?
i hope based poles keep trannies out of their fuckin game, if you can select a tranny you should only have a 60% chance of surviving the game even if you play perfectly.
the annoying thing isn't that you hate blacks, women, gays etc
the annoying thing is that most people hide it behind the dumb fucking identity politics argument
just say you're racist
having a debate about that is much more interesting
...
None of those games are designed to advance political agendas or serve as propaganda.
>Thinking Deus Ex has anything remotely close to a valid, coherent political point
Autism, Many such cases!
>terrorism can be a necessary evil
That one is blatantly wrong and not a message the game is trying to convey. Even though Shinra was destroying the planet, Tifa says they were wrong at a few points and even Barret who spearheaded the organization admits he was wrong for killing all those people at one point towards the end when you're on the airship. Also their one terroristic act of blowing up that one reactor had about zero net effect on Shinra's operations.
Just pretend all those wars relating to the petrodollar were about tiberium
reinforcing the status quo is still political user
>2019
>Still not knowing the difference between politics as a story and politics as an agenda
>games that have politics to make you think about the context for the gameplay and deepen the setting while not telling you what to believe
vs
>blatant political messaging that is a transparent allegory for the modern day and is woefully out of place and forced
NuWolfenstein is a perfect example. In the first game the Nazis won WW2 and it was horrifying to see advanced concentration camps and how the world would change. There were no forced scenes where someone would take to you about how oppressed black women are and how they should be the ones in charge. The second has you siding with communists because they're way better than the Nazis, and "hur dur white pepol gave up on fighting Nazis because they raysus! Start the revolution against the white man because the KKK is in charge now" Marketing about how it's okay to punch Nazis and how we need to "make America nazi free again" which is an obvious nod to Richard Spencer and the MAGA slogan.
It's all just really cringe inducing.
People here keep trying to deny those games are pitical just shows how stupid and quick people are to defend what they like.
Politics in games are fine, the actual problem is developers who focus solely on the politocs and story while ignoring the gameplay. Even then people will defend games or any political media as long as it caters to their political stance, no matter how heavy handed it is.
There's a good handful of people starting to not care anymore, it honestly feels like a weight being lifted off your shoulders.
Obfuscating the point and stretching things to ridiculous may be a good tactic to try and demoralize an opponent, but it doesn't work when you reject the ridiculous attempt to push the argument to absurd limits. The fact remains that when a game seeks to act as a vehicle of propaganda, especially in the context of today's extremely twisted ideological hold on society today and the destruction of any form of actual tolerance, it is a major detriment to that game.
so left wingers are angry because most people dont want trannies or faggots in their games and they retort with B-BUT LE OLD VIDEO GAMES HAD POLITICS TOO?
>expecting ideological consistency from the right
They don’t care if you call them out on their hypocrisy, because if they had any real moral principles they wouldn’t be conservatives in the first place.
They don’t stand for anything besides what OWNS THE LIBS the most at any given time. If rightists were rational or empathetic, they would be leftists.
Well I don't try to make excuses for it or blame the kikes for my countrymen letting me down
No, I will not! Tiberium is actually useful, at the very least it can produce cool shit in our lifetime. Oil can only be used as a convenient energy resource that slowly boils the entire human species. Fuck that shit.
Wasnt Miriam rightt about a majority of the tech
>this much projection without even a hint of self-awareness
Yuri was right.
These games focused on more nuanced ideas instead of browbeating people about how racist, sexist, and homophobic they are for simply existing.
>They don’t care if you call them out on their hypocrisy, because if they had any real moral principles they wouldn’t be conservatives in the first place.
Do you support muslims, trannies or women?
You can only support one, because the other two are ideologically opposed, even if they avoid admitting it
This
But also this
Metal Gear Solid is a nice example of having a political theme but not having it feel forced and awkward. Having an anti war and anti nuke stance is something pretty much everyone can get behind on a certain level. Nobody gets hard thinking about death and complete annihilation of the human race. It's generally seen as something not desirable. Nobody says to Snake anything like "You know, Democrats are secretly run by the Jews and they just want to erase white culture and plunge the world into war while taxing the middle class to hell so they can fill their own pockets. Isn't that weird? Also trans women are women. Now don't get spotted by the guards!"
If Fallout New Vegas came out today /pol/ and Yea Forums would have dozens of threads calling it identity politics and virtue signaling. Add Persona 4 to that list too, actually.
Bioshock, and spec ops: the line are also inherently political games. Even fucking COD and GTA have political themes.
Traditional conservatives have always had the same core values. If anything the goal posts are perpetually moving for the Left because the cultural shift has always been in their favor.
>Bioshock, and spec ops: the line are also inherently political games.
No one denies it. They weren't idpol, tho.
but 30 years ago it was supposed to freeze us, stop listening to the boomers theyre fucking crazy and just want you funding their spending addiction
>even GTA
All GTA games from 3 to 5 are full of political satire.
Having political context and forcing political correctness are 2 completely separate things you enormous bafoon.
>You know, Democrats are secretly run by the Jews and they just want to erase white culture and plunge the world into war while taxing the middle class to hell so they can fill their own pockets. Isn't that weird?
Damn it, Sam Raimi.
New Vegas is shit enough on its own without the need for calling it propaganda.
>Persona 4
What? The fags and trannies hate that game because of Kanji and Naoto.
Honor, tradition and chivalry is inherently rightist. Read some right-core books to get a better understanding instead of looking at Youtube comments of little kids arguing about if Trump is racist or not.
Where's the political message in any of these?
Go on OP, I'm waiting you gigantic faggot.
Why the people who complain about GAMERS are always either a: tranny, faggot or furry, all of them liberals, communists and left wingers?
Brainlets like to say that the Metal Gear series is political. It's one of the most bland, inoffensive "political" statements ever.
"Don't go around attacking other countries, and take pride in your own. Also, Globalism is bad."
>New Vegas is shi-
>those games
use politics to make a game
>the usual suspects
use game to make politics
know the difference
Post anarcho-primitive vidya.
if you can't see the inherent political message of fallout you're actually a retard
>The fags and trannies hate that game because of Kanji and Naoto.
Because they don't like the politics in the game. X not liking it doesn't make it less political at all.
What politics are there in that game? Adachi being a butthurt incel? It's essentially Japanese Scooby Doo
Christ, I was sick of GTA being overtly political by 4.
But by 6, they'll have a playable female character or some shit, and that's when people are going to be "tired of politics in gaming infecting even GTA".
Rockstar is a tax avoiding multimillionaire company that works it's developers to the bone, but people will still gladly gobble up a game that critiques the "american dream" as being impossible for the normal man to reach. Honestly, it's kind of fucking sickening.
If "Gamer" is one's primary group of identification, they're in need of mental help, regardless of ideology.
>half of those constantly glitch out
>reload a save to try to fix it
>realize you're still in an open world landfill where all you do is walk and collect trash
Pathetic
>b-but you're stupid AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
OP your brain is kill, please direct to the nearest trauma center.
>Politcs in those games
>Shit that actually matters in the bigger picture of things
>Politics in nugames
>Shit that literally could not matter any less but schitzos of the modern age care about for some reason i.e. feminist talking points, trannies, gays, etc
Fallout has lots of political themes but not really an overall message, even within specific games
>Yea Forums
>dude identity politics doesn't matter
>also Yea Forums
>what the fuck why is that character gay? does it serve the story? whats the point?
best post in thread
>black people can act like shitheads because some white people acted like shitheads towards them
>white people acting like shitheads because some black people were shitheads to them is rayciss
you guys are so dishonest and transparent at the same time, if you want real honest moral principles stop putting people into collectives, black people who act out against white people who havent personally done anything arent excused because of other bullshit that people they arent even responsible for may have done. The left is always making excuses for people. Black people as a collective dont get to lash out against white people as a collective that is morally wrong and you need to understand that.
March will be interesting for sure. Some liberals are already trying to use the remake to talk about climate change.
Interesting how you're asking them to not put people into collectives, but you were the first to bring up white people and black people.
Sounds like you're putting people into a collective there, buddy
The protagonist is a white male.
>just say you're racist
why do americans pretend skin colour is the national identity and think they're in good company with european countries that have a real national identity and would enforce their borders against other "whites"
im using it as an adjective not as a noun you fucking idiot
Excepth both the cammies and anarch are shown to be equally retarded.
People put themselves into those collectives.
The bigger crime is what they've done to the gameplay. That game is a fucking episodic shitshow
We're just pointing out your hypocrisy lol
Who said anything about anger?
See that's the problem. Oversimplification of language.
There is a difference between the use of a political structure to establish a setting and the use of a political structure to to make (on-the-nose most often) political commentary. HL1's story could work just as well if it was a private organization using mercenaries. At no time does it reference external things not directly needed for the advancement of the game story, and thus makes no commentary beyond the most superficially trivial (which you referenced). Its story could work as well in the 1950s as it would today, in any country or political system, through the use of public or private systems, and should continue to work well into the future. It works in science fiction and fantasy models.
Political commentary on the other hand tends to age poorly, especially when it is not directly related to the story, and almost universally worsens the game. Thus it should be avoided.
Not cages, they should be immediately deported, preferably to antartica
Obama did it too, though right?
That was the old European right. Most "modern" right wingers of Europe called for a European super-state if you consider Mosley a right winger to begin with.
illegal immigrants are not immigrants they are criminals and criminals belong in cages. there goes the left making excuses for people who cant play by the rules again, the rules they mostly created.
how are any of those games political?
>the liberal take
MORE
*clap emoji*
FEMALE
*clap emoji*
PRISONERS
*clap emoji*
Theres a difference between having a message and BEING a message.
Yes, the meme calls out Democrats too.
>The issue here is one is more about direct identity politics
So the issue here is a term that was invented after the 2016 election and means absolutely nothing?
>Envinronemtalivsm good
>Corporations bad
When did you realize it was leftish trash, Yea Forums?
Lmao these threads are always so predictable that they are massive bait.
Anyhow, having political elements in your media is not bad, it is what they are and how they are handled.
E.g. Young Blood and BF5, but also movies like Ghost busters and Captain Marvel are just to ride the contemporary virtue bucks and feel disingenuous. That is why people don't like it; all these themes neatly coincide with the contemporary left of center or "progressive" talking points. Instead of a nuanced and interesting way the themes are handled in a world or narrative building design.
Not that OP would care, because he/she/it seems to be in the business of shitposting.
>anti-globalist right wingers calling for a globalist solution
this always cracks me up
They can go home whenever they want
>What is the gulag
>What is the Holodomor
>What is the great purges to Kazachstan
>What is the Berlin wall
>What is the Cultural Revolution
>What is the great leap forward
>What is pol pot
>inb4 muh not real communism/socialism
>Democrats are literally the punchline of the joke
>"WTF WHY NOT CALL OUT THE DEMOCRATS?!"
You forgot Super Mario
>women are helpless and need saving
>(((bowser))), obviously
>communists
>not putting people in cages
>just sending them to the gulags for forty years hard labor in siberia for not smiling big enough when the soldiers marched in to rape their kids and steal all their food
lol the commie literally put people in deaths camp and worse
they know deep inside that they are abnormal freaks that will never be truly accepted os to cope they double down in their obnoxiousness
The old EU was basically a bulwark against Marxism. Now it's one of its promoters.
Jokes are funny or interesting, or mildly amusing. Liberal "memes" are a miracle. They don't have any of that.
Globalist in a sense of white people who are almost all Gemanic Northern European descent. Meaing an American like myself is welcome to do fuck all.He didn't want cheap labor Indians or Towel Heads though, obviously.
funny how so many iterations of communism can exist fail and still have attempts made while fascism can't even sustain itself to hold one government together
S-SHUT UP!!! COMMUNISM WAS BASED AS F-FUCK!!! IT WAS THE REAL RED PILL!!!
>this joke isn't funny because my ideology demands that I pretend that it isn't, for the sake of a literal forced meme
The absolute state of the right-wing
>it took literally the entire world to take down the one fascist state in history and it has been universally and relentlessly demonized since to ensure nobody tries to make one again
>funny how so many iterations of communism can exist fail and still have attempts made
so you are saying that communists are, indeed, retards? thanks you for being honest, comrade.
>it took literally the entire world to take down the one fascist state in history
The Axis was composed of several fascist states
The joke isn't funny in part because it's not even true. Mainstream democrats advocate for open borders.
obviously nazis are the way to go. look how great they were! they lasted a whole 10 years before collapsing
KEK
>fascism
Apart from Italy and Germany between 1922 and 1945, there was no other fascist state. Since Mussolini the socialist came up with it and they lost ww2. Japan wasn't really a fascist state.
You might say Chille and Argentina were, but that is debatable.
huh wow. you mean i have to focus on foreign relations too because im not the only one in the world. B-B-BUGGED LIFE MECHANICS
>I force laughter at something clearly not funny as a social cue that I am part of a collective, and not one of the designated enemies.
And just like the EU today, the only one doing any work was Germany
>AGAIN pretending that literal forced memes are reality, thus doubling down and further proving my point
there are even more old games that are political, bloodlines is political, arcanum is political, even warcraft is political, huge amounts of jrpgs are political. I remember playing front mission 3 and being surprised by how geopolitical the story was.
the difference? people here are conservative, and many developers today are liberal, so when they put something liberal in their game, they don't like it. the problem is those older games were also more left wing than right, but arguably weren't so blatant about it so it flew over the zoomers heads when they played them.
lol
yeah and the soviet union will surely last forever....oh wait
>I force laughter at something clearly not funny as a social cue that I am part of a collective, and not one of the designated enemies.
That's right-wing memes for ya
People would be less inclined to hire you
The triple entente would love to have a word with you as they like putting potential powerful nations in a place of massive social-economical disrepair causing a second world conflict that became the deadliest one in human history.
/thread
>Trust in the U.S. federal government hit a nadir around the time HL1 started development in the mid-90s.
It's even lower now
partly, but mostly what this guy said
Good thing I own my business
T HI S
I take it he was agreeable?
I would play a liberal game with good writing. I'm mostly liberal myself. But there's a difference between real liberalism and AWOOGA FUCK YEH BLUUUUURGH PARTY TIME FLOSSING *DABS* AYO WITE PEPOL.
I really liked LiS. I can't come up with other liberal examples of good writing, but I'm sure there are.
In his defense
Japan and Germany had a rocky relationship at best since the nazis didn't want to mate with the mastero Yamato raceuh and Italy wanted to reclaim clay. Hilter was left to fight off a rebellion, America Fuck Yeah, and Commie Bastards.
Well I just don't like women and faggots, I know that the rest is just Yea Forums cope
It’s all in the numbers.
Number one. That’s terror.
Number two. Thats terror.
>conspiracy theories and fantasy power fantasies are the same as transsexual shitskins and stronk womyn everywhere
Lmao nigger
Not a single one of those games said retarded shit like current games today
>Racism is bad, all whites are evil
>Sexism is wrong, All men are bad.
>Third worlders want to live with us because their nations are shit and they can't fix them, ButThey make our country better.
Nothing wrong with politics in games, its just your lefty politics are fucking retarded and make no damn sense.
>fascism can't even sustain itself to hold one government together
Argentina and Chile did fine, what are you talking about?
there is literally always going to be political commentary in works of fiction and art. that's how it always has been, that's how it always will be. you're an absolute fucking retarded brainlet if you think this is a new thing, or if you get offended by it. fucking stop consuming fiction if you don't want political commentary.
I'm not wrong.
But I don't play any of those games you're referring to.
I've received reports of armed attacks on shipments. There's not enough vaccine to go around. And the underclasses are starting to get desperate. Your turn.
oh well if a government that lasted 69 years failed obviously the one that lasted 10 is a much better choice
It's also because they were kids and didn't care about politics back then, so they just passed straight through them.
dont think you know the commander i know the commander because hes my pal heres a picture
Yes, you are. You literally think right-wing forced memes are reality.
>I'm mostly liberal myself
WHY?
It's not a forced meme, it's literally the democrat platform to decriminalize illegal immigration.
>political commentary
It isn't commentary, more propaganda.
The secondary unit should be online within six months. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on its progress within six months.
>It's not a forced meme
Yes, it is
No, it's not. It's been democrat policy for decades to decriminalize illegal immigration.
Welcome to the Coalition JC, I might as well start using coke.
>No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
As opposed to Blumpf personally donning a klan hood and blaring moonman as guns down jews and mexicans, in between hits of Zyklon-B
The NSF have taken one of our Agents hostage. I think Manderly wants to see how you handle the situation. Stick with the prod! Prod, with the prod! Just in case though, we're police!
exactly, its so fucking annoying when someone complains about politics in the way that new games do it so autistically and then they bring up "HURR DURR NEW VEGAS WAS ALL ABOUT POLITICS" shut up nigger
Being dogpiled by a dozen nations in the biggest war in history solo =/= collapse
If the entire world shows up to kick your ass, it is a failure of your diplomacy
savage; your turn
Because I hate the state controlling human behavior and I hate the centralized state controlling it even more.
That's liberalism. I'm not religious, I'm for sexual freedom and freedom of the arts.
Why would I be conservative? Humanity has already gone through too many cultural changes to conserve anything. In fact I find the idea of a conservative party in America of all places a bad joke.
>scientists are portrayed nobly
Gordan is portrayed nobly, the others are portrayed as needlessly reckless and full of themselves. You are supposed to feel enjoyment when those fuckers that risked your life by ordering you in the test chamber are killed by the xen monsters. Meanwhile, the simple blue collar security guards are based and will help you out. It's pretty on the nose commentary that just because you are smart doesn't make you a nice person.
desperate
>Le epic strawman maymay
No, it's the machinations of the jews, who refuse to allow the existence of a power they don't control
or fear of what you could be.
>people here are conservative
Well, they pretend they are.
oh yes
>trying this hard to fit in
The "conservative" party of USA literally is Globohomo Gayplex HQ.
>"oh my god, who could have predicted running a country included FOREIGN RELATIONS"
yea no that's still a collapse of your weak ass government
where are the politics?
Have sex
user just became an ancap
Communists built a wall and minefield to keep people from escaping to the west and put people in forced labour camps.
>biggest war in history solo
>italy and japan don't exist
>turns out annexing entire countries makes other countries hate you
has he been infected?
>communists are incapable of learning from past mistakes
sounds like a self-own to me
When confronted with evidence that proves how wrong they are, commies will simply ignore or fall back on "whataboutism." If you get a particularly dense one, they'll just deny and project.
The liberals are the authoritarian ones you fucking moron. They're the ones passing speech laws, social engineering, and both psychological and biological experimentation to develop what they consider an ideal society. What would a conservative stop you from doing? They might cal you a fag.
One word: Abortion
>government can only take one form in a name
i would say communism is thriving considering china then
It's true. Also our conservatives are literally 80s liberals.
t. American
Conspiracies and political subterfuge as a backdrop in media can make for fun entertainment.
Opaquely glorifying racial heterogeneity and acceptance of sexual misconduct, eh, not so much.
The key to making a good message in any media is subtlety. It doesn't take much dwelling on a certain point before your audience starts imagining you standing on a soap box.
oh yes...
One word:
Bakeries
have deus ex
Indeed. America is the most progressive country of the world. I wouldn't mind if it wasn't by the fact they spread their bullshit overseas.
do you live in Chile or Argentina?
I just want to know
electronic old men will rule the world
Nigga I don't care about parties rebranding, what do you think I follow modern politics? I'm not a flaming homosexual.
One word: Unatco?
yet it got btfo by the superior system
and more people have died on the US/Mexico border than because of the Berlin Wall, oops.
Two words:
No, Savage.
>ethnicist, repressive, murderous Syrian government
What a fucking retard you are.
If you don't have a vagina I'd suggest you travel around Syria a bit, you have no idea what you're talking about.
In the absense of infanticidal lunatics, most conservatives are fine with first trimester abortion.
Those are foreigners religious customs right? Foreigners get a one way ticket back to their homeland, where they belong, under a conservative society. Remember you're suppose to conserve something, and no, its not about conserving the foreigners culture and religion, its about conserving the local customs.
I don't care if people in India eat shit, I don't plan to change their customs, its their turf, they rule it however they want, and so should I under my land.
is that why trump complains about getting rekt by china?
Yeah, that's why I didn't criticized China for eating dogs. I wouldn't like to have Indians to tell me "You can't eat cows."
NOOOOO I WAS A CHILD BACK THENNNNZTOPP
no. its american law and american soil. land of the pedos
> the Conservative party is based on logic
U-Unatco?
>people getting heatstroke crossing the desert is America's fault
>people being gunned down trying to leave the DDR isn't Communism's fault
Commie doublethink is absolutely astounding.
god given right
>halo is about space muslims because the covenant have a religion
Where'd you get your theology degree?
>I think the Insurrection are dirty terrorists because of the War on Terror
The insurrection doesn't show up in the games until reach. Try harder faggot.
based tranny
There is a greater chance that everthing in the bible is literally true than the liberal creation myth of human equality of character and potential.
you do know the left is bending over backwards right now just to appease a even crazier religion right?
Fuck America to be honest. All I was saying is that the image up there is what happens under liberalism. Everyone is free to rule over everyone, that includes foreigners.
There are no countries left worth a shit on this planet. Just end us.
Conservatives deserve to be killed both in games and in real life.
Islam is quite redpilled, tho. And that's mostly an European thing.
NUH UH!
I'm sure the muslims will be far more tolerant of our deviant behaivor than those fucking GODDAMN CHR*STIANS.
t. false prophet
I hope his bone spurs don't cause him too much grief :S
lol if you believe that you are retarded.
They all had something interesting to say, while modern games that are political are filled with the same boring politics and ideals spouted by disgusting degenerate freaks.
I don’t need several games every year about why women are strong and I don’t need to be told why we should open our borders. I don’t need some ‘clever’ answer totally edgy metaphor about Trump and Brexit. I don’t need diatribes from fucking cosmopolitan scumbags living in California, Canada, or London. I don’t need to be lectured on workers rights while you work your people to the brink of mental break downs.
What astounds me is the fact that these fucks bitch when we don’t embrace their shitty media propaganda, despite it never been aimed at us in the first place. For example, Star Wars, Star Trek, and Doctor Who are no longer aimed at its original fanbase, the fans are rightfully privy to that, and they’re all in the dumps.
To add to all this, their games suck with predatory consumerism practices. Fuck you.
>Japan fought on the European front
>Italy anything but dead weight
TNC and Youngblood are bad.
this is top bait
This
>germany is in a corner only needs one front
absolute state of wehraboos
>looks at muslim politicians
>they all follow leftist agenda to a T
Looks like their alliance is legit
Hey italians invented tankettes
if you think a nigger cant be a good character or a at least a normal one
you need to play more games.
or maybe you are a genuinely racist person .
is ok if you are dont get me wrong
>fairytales literally true
Stopped reading
> yeah my religion doesn’t make sense but theirs is worse so vote for us!
Strong viewpoint
He is not asking you if you think a nigger can be a good character. Please learn to read before replying.
>game has political reference in it
this is fine if done right, forcing your character to agree, especially if in an RPG, is a bit shitty but whatever
>game has political reference in it, this is used as part of the marketing for the game
this is not okay, the game is now directly political outside of itself and a shitstorm awaits
Star Trek has literally always been aimed at the left. This is absolutely not disputable.
How is talking about nuclear war related to current lets make our protagonist lesbian out of nowhere clearly just to cater to people who dont even play our games to begin with?
Congrats on missing the point. The fundamental dogma of modern liberalism is literally less substantiated than an unfalsifiable fairy tail.
So what battles did Germans and Japanese fight side by side in exactly? I'm really curious.
The great war of ww2 duh
Are you a retard? People are referring to gender and race politics. Literally anything else that isn't those two don't matter at all.
Yes but which battles?
>Watch video about whining about Wolfenstein Youngblood
>Very little discussion about the game's flaws, mostly bitching about the game's message of "nazis bad, women/left good"
>His whole point is... "nazis/germans/white men good, women/jews/left bad"
>Wahhhh wahhhh, nazis aren't being portrayed as three dimensional characters *praise of nazi accomplishments ensues"
>Proceeds to shill nazis as absolute heroes that can do no wrong, and women/jews/anyone that isn't white as two dimensional villains
>"The allies were the real evil", "muh poor germans in concentration camps, muh Dresden bombings, muh soviet rape, muh Morgenthau Plan, muh immigration, muh miscegenation, muh marxism"
>About Hitler having a killswitch in the game to change climate and destroy the world: "b-b-but Israel!!!!!!"
And that's all the altright has to offer
The one where me, hitler and the power rangers mechazord do a tag team on your mom, thats how you were born brw
Too bad every Italian tank and tankette was already outdated by pre-war standards even at the end of the war.
They were cute tho thats all it matters in war
>So the issue here is a term that was invented after the 2016 election
The specific term maybe, but it was a thing iteself long before 2016 (in the 90's it was "wedge issues").
>I’m trying to sound smart
> literally
Cringe
> an ideology is not substantial
Duh
> prove that my whimsical fairytales didn’t actually happen
This is just grasping.
Tldnr
Damn my mom was pretty cool back in the day
true but also aimed at neckbeard white males who are increasingly not left as they begin to notice the only reality consistent theme in modern left is fuck white men.
themes were obvious from the start. characters made it work
>no no no stop having a different reason why you dislike this, just dislike it so I can use a pejorative
It genuinely makes me laugh whenever I remember that's literally how they think.
Chile is a second world country and will be first world in 8-10 years. Argentina literally looks like Spain or Portugal in some places. Also, operation paperclip is the reason why America advanced so far in science, interpret that how you like.
"""the left""" is a single idea. the right is totally not genocidal because hitler is left wing and i love him but i hate the left and i'm totally not just spouting propaganda and arguing in bad faith with no intention of having consistency to my thoughts
Cloud literally couldnt care less and by the time he starts to care shits too big for him anyways and has to roll with it, again its pretty different actually making a functioning engaging story from catering to someone that wont even play your game
And no, I don't. I'm an Amerifat
Congrats on STILL MISSING THE POINT. There is no proof that christianity is true. But not only is there no proof that the fundamental tenants of liberalism are true, there is proof that it's WRONG. It's not just believing in something fake, it's believing in something which is measurably, objectively incorrect.
Politics only means black people, women, gay people and trannys.
Dude that video was a reaction to Rock Paper Shotguns articles attacking cyberpunk2077.
t. man who wishes to go back when rape was accepted because that's the only way he can have sex now
That's the only way slimy leftists get laid they just aren't violent about it and use other means.
Imagine being such a bot that when faced with even the threat of introspection, your brain shuts fown and starts shitting out baseless insults
I would add
>complaining about the portrayal of nazis not being accurate to WW2 Germany, despite the game taking place 40 years after the war, at an alternate timeline where Germans won it.
The difference is those aren’t social politics. Normal politics people are okay with, left vs right social politics is dreadful.
I've been so wondering about this for a while, but why are you people here?
You obviously don't like the board culture or people here, so what are you doing?
A broad ideology cannot be measured as objectively incorrect. You can’t just say something is wrong and claim it as fact. I’m sure you will try to shill me with your saved links of times liberalism have failed and anyone can do that with any political ideology
There is a greater chance that everthing in the Quran is literally true than the conservative creation myth of traditional values and attitudes.
As long as i have choice, I don't give a shit
>a white utopia gets destroyed by a cryptokike
now that i see, this is a pretty lowkey redpill.
China isnt fucking open borders marxists they dont believe in a wokers paradise they believe in a chinese paradise. China is based
>a white utopia
Built with jewish technology
>destroyed by a cryptokike
Using that same technology
What did they mean with this?
right
Obviously if its populist politics people aren't going to have a problem, the problem lies in demoralization and condemning groups which is what most modern politics in games strive to do.
"I believe in facts and statistics but dont bring up niggers and violent crime"
There's a fucking difference between
>Politics that are completely fictional and are a basis for the story
and
>Obvious shoe in of modern politics to force that their opinion on it is the correct one
You absolute retard
>100 Syrian lira has been deposited into your account
This, It ages like milk
>>a white utopia
>Built with jewish technology
Oh that's right, they put in a "The Ancient Jews were super advanced" subplot or something along those lines.
>Black people bad!
I feel bad this hasn't gotten more (You)'s, so much effort was spent.
Don't forget they hate globohomo and post-modern gender bullshit.
Mussolini's definition of fascism was state controlled capitalism.
Guess what China started doing after leaving retarded commie ideology behind?
They aren't commies.
Rockstar literally paid game reviewers to show the absolute worst aspect of their game to scare and shock conservative parties into fear mongering retard.
Ah, but I actually can. The greatest fundamental tenant of modern liberalism is the concept that people are fundamentally more or less the same, with major differences both within and between groups arising mainly from environmental factors. Accordingly, they believe that differences in condition between groups must arise from a disparity in external conditions, and that, in the name of equality, which they hold identically to equity, steps ought to be taken to adjust the environment under the principle that an equality of outcome indicates an equality of opportunity.
But every effort that the liberals have made towards this end for decades have utterly failed. And they failed because there are very large fundamental differences between groups.
>libtard response to black crime
Let’s try to integrate them more
> poltard response to black crime
Let’s kill every black person. Based and red pilled. Praise kek
They are both bad but at least one of these is more realistic
That depends on what you mean by "bad".
Do you mean the entirety of their people are evil in a moral sense? Of course not.
If you mean they''re a net loss in most tangible ways, then absolutely.
>MGS
>politics
The difference is setting politics for the story and trying to shove political agenda
>What is the The People's Republic of China after Deng Xiaoping
>China
>Still communist
>Not Rexist
Everything is political. What people mean when they say something isn't political is that it supports the current regime and doesn't threaten it at all. It's still political though.
Every form of art and media is political.
Jackson Pollock was hired by the CIA because his paintings were abstract expressionist and that went against the socialist realist art buzz going on in the USSR at that time.
R* autist here, They are radical centrists and mock both sides a lot, There's some good shit on the radio. But after all the lawsuits during the 2000's they fell in line, They are too scared to be controversial
Who actually had problems with the "political" messages in any of those games though, even at the time of their release? The "nuclear weapons bad", "destroying the environment", or "authoritarians/elites bad" messages barely qualify as political statements.
GTA V is literally the most profitable entertainment product ever made.
How about reparations and a free trip back to their ancestral homeland?
And what real life politics is that mirroring or satirising or commenting on?
Oh.... Oh you're retarded and think that means it's political. Oh no. How sad.
And?
lefties are trying to push their identity politics but since they are getting told to fuck off they double down with saying that old video games were political as fuck too
> tldr I don’t believe what they believe
You can just say this. Your beliefs are not facts as much you want to believe it to be. If they actually were then we wouldn’t have political differences
Crime wouldn't be nearly as high if the South never imported them in the first pace. They should do their crime in the congo on Tarzan away from the first world.
Glad to see more people are aware the CIA invented postmodernism
Any democrat would consider your integration suggestion to be racist. Their solution is to simply give black people free shit.
>when the NPC doubles down
Consider this
None of those games is good
They could make an AO-rated game and they still would be in the black.
>t. Ryan Faulk
Neither are your grammar.
But they are facts. It is a fucking fact that blacks are stupid, genetically. It is a fucking fact that shitty countries are the product of shitty peoples. It is a fact that most of any individual's problems are self inflicted.
I was a different user, friend.
hmmm
Read Uncle Ted's manifesto if you don't understand what "the Left" refers to and why it's used in place of specific commentary on a particular political group.
Unless you're just a /pol/tard LARPing as a bottom of the bin moron, in which case congratulations you tricked me.
>>t. Ryan Faulk
?
Without a doubt they could. They are sociopaths underneath it all, But they won't in this day and age. They even said they are scared over the trump era. No balls.
I didn't say kill them just be aware of the risk they pose
It seriously disturbs me when people act like victimized and persecuted over inane shit like this. I thought this was supposed to be nigger and woman behavior, why the fuck are so many white """men""" doing it now?
>read uncle ted
no thanks, I don't like reading
This is hilarious because dude was obviously a liberal relaxin around blacks like that
37 million deportation does not sound free
Get off /pol/, not even half the liberals support actual reparations
I love actual fantasy political shit in games, not being punched in the nose with CURRENT YEAR
Polotics are fine. Identity/sex politics are retarded.
For them it is. It's a small cost for 50% less crime
*politics
dilate, cope and have sex 40%
But the 50 cent game was in the middle east.
>having a government as a bad guy is political
Guess every RPG where you fight an evil king is political too.
Gravity Rush 2
Watchdogs 2
Red Dead Redemption 2
Communist China is an awful place that literally embodied the red scare in Fallout, all subterfuge and skullduggery.
Yes, you made another single sentence as a greentext which means you're doubling down, what of it?
liberals and left wingers are mentally ill people. but i like when they get a dose of the cold reality.
Having a fantasy king as the bad guy isn't political. Having a real life king as a bad guy is.
all politics are social you fucking clown
I'm not talking reparations, I'm talking 'bout dem programs.
Metal Gear Solid literally ends with the game giving you a speech about how your genes don’t really matter or determine who you are as a person. Try posting that on /pol/ now and see what happens
>we have politics in those to make you think about it in your way
>lol killing nazis
>lol save the planet
>lol post-apocalypse is bad
>lol government is controlling people
You are not a very bright person aren't you?
>We're just pointing out your hypocrisy lol
If that were true, "you" would've stopped after the dozen(s) of comments pointing out the false conflation of the two.
No, you're doing this to shitpost.
I have no passion or love for media anymore. It's all been hijacked and will remain shitty forever, so fuck it. I'd rather be a complete shell of a person than endure this shit anymore. I'm just waiting for China to declare war and murder us all.
In fact, It will pay for itself over time and the tax payers will save more money, Prisons won't be full, Crime will be halved (Especially gun crime) Cheap housing, etc.
It's a cherry picked example and it only represents 1 person or at most a small group of people at a single expo. Congrats. Its fucking nothing that anybody cares about. It's probably not even related to any games you've ever heard of, or would play anyway
>The second has you siding with communists because they're way better than the Nazis
Completely unheard of during the actual second world war. Truly fairytales land.
social commentary and plot about cold war is not about anything relevant today. beyond the most broad strokes it wasn't political, it was trying to tell a fucking story
that's what people want and the pack of it is why they're angry. nu wolf is not trying to a story so much as overtly convince you white conservative men - the ones around you today - are the most evil creatures on the planet
sephiroth represent exxon mobil and jenova represents BP and she also is john carpenter's the thing and this represents the bush dynasty
see, all games are politics
>Nobody gets hard thinking about death and complete annihilation of the human race
literally the GOP
And rightly so, pop culture references are fucking cancer and I'm glad people are realizing it, even if it is through on the nose political commentary
if you want a real answer its because theres a difference between a intriguing story based on politics and a hamfisted snore pandering game that lacks any real meat and is just cute sweet frosting that appeals at the surface but is rancid shit underneath.
>destroying environment is bad
>hardly qualifies as political
Tell me, which president and political party removed 83 environmental regulations in favor for corporate interests?
Which party has an overwhelming number of congressmen who do not believe man-made climate change is teal?
Which president wants to give the coal industry subsidies?
Which president has direct ties to Big Oil?
Which president claimed that climate change is a myth invented by the Chinese?
oh pay no attention to sephiroths name and all the religious symbolism that's actually an evangelion reference which is commentary on the trump and hillary race obviously
Genetic variation will always be a factor
The liberals are all about helping forgivers, taking them back home to Africa to get away from KKK America and Nazi Europe should be your priority.
I remember during GG that a lot of game journalists were shitting on white gamers.
Tldr faggot
Good post
foreigners*
GUH...
Back then it wasn't in every AAA game and it wasn't always borderline far-left propoganda.
>politics thread
>900 replies
>everytime
unironically stop politicizing my Yea Forums
there's a very clear difference between using politics to tell a story, and using a story to push a certain political agenda
But it doesn't say that, it says that while genes may set you down a life path, it is ultimately your choice, and that you can change it.
I disagree with it almost entirely, but that's beside the point
Was it that Krogan channel?
Tell 8/leftypol/ to stop running shitcord OPs then.
Whaaaaaaa? Blacks are stupid? Clearly you havent see this sir.
metal gear is full of politics but most of it is just driving the action-hero story. the parts that can be taken as commentary on modern society are very abstract and arent pushing some agenda.
it's all shit like "whoa dude how do you even know what's like true in the age of information" and shit about how tragic a soldiers life is
when you welcome r/gamingcirclejerk and breadtwitter with open arms because you are tired of poltards, this is bound to happen, my dude.
Don't know why I subbed to him. His Youngblood and Rage 2 videos made me realize how crazy he actually is.
Was it them or was you that took the propaganda pill?
This is low IQ shit from r/gamingciclejerk, a bunch of teenage faggots who make and post contrarian memes on gayms as long as they don't insult leftist views.
I wouldn't be surprised if they also posted on infinity though.
If you really think this is an equivalent to modern politics in games, you're brainwashed beyond repair. The modern situation would be more akin to suburban mom's trying to censor mortal Kombat and other violent games in the 90s. Or when they claimed D&D was satanic. Something, I know 90% of you left-tards were against at the time (if old enough). You stupid, hypocritical fucks.
This
The terrorist that talks to you at the statute of liberty (whom speaking to is entirely optional) prompts Denton to think.
In a modern game he would just scream ORANGE MAN BAD FUCK DRUMPF FUCK NAZI
>politics being internally part of the world building
VS
>politics being cheap attempts at inserting real life politics where it doesn't fit anything or makes the world building bad
Also
>implying we're neutral
If a game is right wing propaganda, I am buying it collectors edition and all dlc unless it's objective irredeemably shit. I never claimed to be a neutral party. I hope the communist atheist propagandists get culturally enriched
>I wouldn't call it politics, rather conspiracies
lmao go back
Progressives are gay lol
Jesus fuckign christ.
I fucking hate this whole "politics in video games" debate because it's just two different sides being two different extremes instead of one trying to correct the statement of the other.
Both are retarded but for different reasons.
Some guy doesn't know what politics are or didn't know how to communicate his statement, so the other guy acts as an obnoxious faggot by going "hurrr then what about MGS" and acts like he won, because he didn't even bother to go "what do you mean" or see through his view like someone who's not a selfish, egocentric faggot.
It's the same shit with "should video game stories be 100% forced or not exist at all" and "should sequels be repetitive and samey or completely different and out of place in a franchise".
Or the same thing with arguing about video games being art.
Someone says something dumb and the counter arguement is just "what you said but the exact opposite so you know i disagree with you and you're wrong i win" rather than actually adding up shit.
And all of these arguements always sound surface as fuck, you can't even tell them apart from made up shit coming out of someone's made up boogeyman strawman made to parody a certain opinion.
EXTREME COUNTER ARGUEMENTS ARE SHIT, YOU FUCKING RETARDS.
ALL OF YOU EAT SHIT AND HERE'S SOME APE ESCAPE SHOTA.
>its not politics when it doesnt agree with me
>its not politics when it doesnt fit my worldview
>muh incel boogieman
wasted trips kys
This ain't it chief
>I wouldn't call it politics, rather conspiracies
yea man so far fetched from reality lmao
Thanks for recommending him, he seems pretty good.
>HERE'S SOME APE ESCAPE
BAS-
>SHOTA.
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Below clearly proves it is
If you are that emotionally invested in an ideology you will actiavlly seek validation or disapproval in content
I'm 100% ok with politics in games because the left are starting to lose, let their games keep losing money.
I want the next 50 years to be the most rightwing shit you have ever seen in gaming history
Bring it on.
The absurdity of his videos make me "wtf I'm watching", he does exactly what his lot accuse game journalists of doing, pretending to review videogames, but talking very little about them, and instead shilling his personal politics.
oh my lord if you played deus ex you played it with a blindfold and the sound off
I doubt the right would even bother pushing politics as hard as the left
>rightwing vidya
>good
If it's anything like rightwing literature, then it's going to be even more brainless and dumbed down than current games