Smash ultimate is balanced!

Has a very low chance of being obtained, and they need to take the time to even equip that ability, meaning in that time you could hitstun them out of their menu.

since he came from a turn based game, shouldnt he alsay wait to attack and then wait to get hit?

for Roy and Marth the critical hits are their final smash.

Ness's critical hits are represented in his forward SMAAAAASH

No casual match will ever be enough to use all his moves. And no casual will be able to use them in a way that they can understand.

It honestly feels like Sakurai is doing it because he doesn't like competitive play. Which I mean, it probably won't work, but it feels spiteful as fuck. Pretty pathetic, honestly.

he's going to be the most fun character to play at, and nobody gives a shit if it doesn't please your competitive ass, who fucking gives a shit at this point

>It has the iconic sound
OH SHIT THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING SHUT IT DOWN user WON ALL THE ARGUMENTS

Cause they're not designed around mimicking the RPG mechanics

>he's going to be fun
I doubt, again, all his stupid spells are too complex to use in a casual match. The only people that will use him to his full potential will be competitivefags, that's why it feels spiteful and dumb. It's poor design, user. You don't have to lie to yourself just because you don't like competitive play.

critical hits are actually a mechanic in dragon quest, there are attacks who forces critical hits to happen, and the joy of having a critical hit happening on a metal slime and having that xp makes it iconic.

In pokemon the critical hits don't change animation they just make you do more damage.

And Fire Emblem as said, some has their animation as final smashes.

I mean, you're wrong, but hey, don't let me stop you indulging in your fantasies

If I'm wrong, then Sakurai must've forgotten how to design fun and straight-forward characters like Falcon and Marth. He's packing in gimmicks without actually thinking how they'll be used in actual gameplay. AKA poor design.

Wow, it's just like the games. I totally apologize for talking about how it affects the gameplay.

IT'S OK EVERYONE, THE CRITS ARE ICONIC.

>Sakurai must've forgotten how to design fun and straight-forward characters like Falcon and Marth.
What is Banjo Kazooie?

>He's packing in gimmicks without actually thinking how they'll be used in actual gameplay.
Yeah I'm sure you'd know, having only seen maybe 5 minutes of gameplay.

you don't add shit to the conversation,
the point of Smash brothers is having characters well represented within the game, and as a person that played most dragon quest games, I can guarantee you that critical hits are way more impressive and memorable than in other games because it has more function that doing more damage.

We don't know Banjo's moveset yet, retard.
>I'm sure you know how it works, after having seen all his moves and how they work
Well, yes, actually

Pokemon and fire emblem have tons of weapons, abilities, moves, and items that increase crit chance as well, stupid. In Pokemon they not only deal more damage, but ignore stat changes that would lessen their damage while using stat changes that increase the damage. And you ignored the iconic SMAAAAAASH from the Mother series.

Have sex redditor u dont even know how common is the chance to get a critical hit and bet ur manchild tears that the chances of getting a crit will be lower if u cry more

>all this seething

You are literally just biased toward DQ. FE and Mother games have far more iconic crits, and Pokemon and FE both have a lot more mechanics and tools built around them.

The SMAAAASH thing is actually in the game, but only when you hit the starman for some reason.

>extremely precise attack that requires heavily reading & punishing your opponent, and if you miss you are wide open as the easiest character to combo in the entire game
>60% damage

vs.

>use a smash attack
>50% damage

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>SMAAAAAASH text doesn't pop up when it successfully connects

Fuck you too Sakurai

>no argument
You simply haven't played any of the games in question.

God I wish that were me...

Kill yourself Smelee

LOOK I SAID I WAS SORRY! I PROMISE I WON'T TALK ABOUT GAMEPLAY EVER AGAIN! PLEASE, YOU WIN, HERO IS PERFECT BECAUSE HIS CRITICAL HIT MECHANIC IS ICONIC!

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you guys logic is fucking deplorable.
Just because sakurai didn't had the "SMAAAAAAAASH" fx in melee
or critical hits on pokemons from smash 64
If a character from another series that has cool critical hits then ALL THE OTHER GAMES THAT HAS CRITICAL HITS MUST HAVE THAT MECHANIC IN SMASH
you guys are fucking retards it's incredible

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I guess you must have missed it
youtu.be/I67pPXS96UI
Looks pretty simple to me, and everyone else who was comparing him to Hero.

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Haha... I wonder what it smells like in her tummy!

I agree. Its like the people who say "Why does Robin have a durability mechanic when Snake doesnt run out of ammo?"

New characters are becoming more and more gimmicky with each new entry and Sakurai refuses to go back to rework older characters

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>character reliant on RNG
>good

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The Ultimate newcomers were pretty vanilla in terms of "gimmicks".

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>Veronica costume
Nice

Is it even possible to punish with that?
I've landed it on people and it scares the fuck out of them, but then I have no time to even cstick them

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>The Ultimate newcomers were pretty vanilla in terms of "gimmicks".
yeah, it feels like all of the base games newcomers were designed like brawl and before while the DLC is made like smash 4's were guess the fact its additional lets sakurai experiment more..

Post more i'm horny

I don't really care, I was just pointing out how hilariously bullshit your logic is. I'm actually good with only Hero having crits (I'd rather it be nobody), but to outright lie and claim "w-w-w-well DQ crits are the most ICONIC because a few moves make them happen" isn't just wrong, it's stupid. FE and Pokemon both make more use of crits in gameplay and mechanics, and Mother's are more iconic.

smash isnt fucking chess you virgin it's not supposed to be serious or require skill.
stop seriously investing yourself in a game youre supposed to play with friends before you go out on the weekend

>reliant on RNG
yes, lets just ignore the already high damage moves and near instant projectiles and specials. /s
>but muh mp bar makes it balanced!

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People are all making a big deal when the character is midtier at best

>inflation

Yawn. Post weight gain.

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BanjoBro here, and I am stoked as FUCK to play him

He's my type of character: The Mind Fuck kind

Congrats to HeroChads for getting such a busted character

You really DO keep on winning

HOES MAD
>HOES MAD
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>HOES MAD
HOES MAD
>HOES MAD

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>fsmash kills at around 100% on medium stages
>projectiles are weak when spammed and heavily limited when made strong
>literally forced to play the game and not spam to make any use whatsoever of the special moves

>people defending crits when you could have just made psyche up be the "crit"
Here are the issues:
>snooze works in the air
Has the potential for extreme jank low % stocks
>MP regens on its own at a pretty good pace
Meaning he really doesn't ever have to approach except in rare MUs
>zoom + crits
Random stocks will be lost sooner or lived longer all while he has functional tools without them. I'm not going to claim top tier or whatever, but he's not going to be very fun to fight against and encourages the type of play which already isn't very fun online-- running away and trying for YOLO shit.

I don't like either of these, but the risk for GW/Luigi's not pulling out a "crit" is often being punishable on hit. Over half of GW's attack pulls are straight up terrible. These are on regular smash attacks, and are no more slow than Link's.

A character who both has zoning and anti-zoning properties along with a bar that regens over time. Yeah, great one.

Sorry I dont have much in terms of WG
Please understand

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I would've put .gif Wartortle balloon belly, but the file is too big. No joke.

when does the update come out?

>Haha le epic Hero crits!
>Some fag picks Lucina
>F-air spam
>F-air hits hero outside the stage
>He dies

Wow such an epic and random quirky character that will break the game oh wow OP you're so right nobody else in the game can just combo the faggot or gimp his bad recovery nope no sir he definitely won't get beat at all even though he's gonna have a shitty neutral game oh golly gee what a quirky character he even has spells that are like zimby zambo ZIMBABWE wow very awesome

>>MP regens on its own at a pretty good pace
>Meaning he really doesn't ever have to approach except in rare MUs
It's a bit faster than 1 per second. So if he were to be too low to use frizz, that would be a good 4 seconds ingame between frizz shots, which are slow, do fuckall knockback, and are only moderate in damage. Yeah, real spammy.

And that makes him have to approach how? He doesn't get any real incentive to approach. He also gets his recovery back more quickly than Robin does even with shit resource management. This is all assuming he allows himself to get that low in the first place you know.
>you finally approach and he does a retreating aerial and gets 15 MP back if it hits
>can also heal himself 11% for sub 10MP

Can you link it instead?

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Can you link it?

The fuck did this thread turn into

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>go out of your way to edgeguard him and stuff his recovery with Lucina
>he still has an RNG chance to make it back for free

Idk where to link it though. It's bigger like 20MB.

nintendofags:
>SNOY HAS NO GAMES, ONLY MOVIES! GAMEPLAY IS ALL THAT MATTERS!
also nintendofags:
>WHO CARES ABOUT GAMEPLAY IN SMAAAAAASH? MY CHILDHOOD NOSTALGIA IS ALL THAT MATTERS!

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That's the power of someone getting BTFO so hard by posters here that lets his autism dominate him.

also
Frizz spells: 5, 16, 36 MP
Zap spells: 8, 18, 42 MP

Because the Links all hit harder in general than he does, and don't have 4+ second cooldowns at any point in time when spamming their three simultaneous projectiles. Ditto for the Belmonts and even Samus. You must not play Smash very often.

Just upload it to mega or google drive

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>I can guarantee you that critical hits are way more impressive and memorable than in other games because it has more function that doing more damage.
Everything you said here is outright wrong, lol.

That's only true if you're only looking at Ridley.

...I didn't know I wanted this.

DRAGON QUEST WEEABOOS RISE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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We already have the retard Joker running around with free kills

Where in that post you read something like that, you fucking goddamn retard?
He's just saying that Hero's Crits are correct.

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>Where in that post you read something like that, you fucking goddamn retard?
the very first sentence, where he tells someone that they "don't add shit to the conversation" because they care about GAMEPLAY in a GAME.

Once again, none of this makes him have to approach. I'd also like to see your data about him hitting softer or harder than Link (smash attacks aside, which we cannot quantify due to not knowing the rate of crits). Belmonts and Samus don't often have to approach either, which is why I clear stated I am not calling them overpowered, I'm saying we have enough of annoying projectile characters designed around running away.

And guess what? It's validated even more by the change to those mini-chargable final smashes by giving them a timer to encourage the other player to actually approach

>tfw melee can never be tainted

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Everyone's freaking out about a move that, even if the spell you want is on the list, takes 10-15 frames to input plus the startup lag of the move itself. Unless of course you commit yourself to the first choice blindly and get kamakaze for your trouble.

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>hit someone offstage
>pull up menu and have free shot at snooze which is instant kill or healing 11%
It doesn't look bad

I'm just glad that I got into DQ before the Smash reveal. I haven't gotten this excited about a video game in a while.

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It's not a serious fighting game

Arigato, user-Sama

Landing that move allows you to punish their wake up options. Down smash will cover a get up attack, forward roll, and reg get up. If they roll away you can land the command grab.