Underrail Thread

Gunslinger does not. There are a couple others that only work for ballistic pistols also.

>perception, paranoia, motion tracking goggles
I literally have all 3 of those and they're still unspottable. Also remember they have like a zillion initiative so they'll attack you first if you're anywhere even slightly near.

Is this the closest I can get to Fallout 1/2 in current year? I've already tried Atom RPG and wasn't a fan.

That's the starting place you first go to. Go north where you can kill rathounds and light up the outposts. You shouldn't be struggling with rathounds, unless you're on dominating. There is one fight there which I would say a molotov helps tremendously.

Age of Decadence is more Fallouty in some ways. But yeah try both.

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yes. underrail kicks ass. if you like the soundtrack for fo1 and 2, you'll like underrail's soundtrack.

Right I know but how difficult is say, the first 2-3 screens in the other directions? Am I gonna get fucked by something I can't handle so quickly if I go exploring?

>I literally have all 3 of those and they're still unspottable.
Take your time when you suspect they are near.

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Yeah PSI beetles will fuck you up, so only go to the north caves for now.

>that filename
>not posting the ppsh
One job.

That game was pretty fun and made me appreciate coop.
Underrail is just better in every way except maybe graphics and audio but if you're here chances are you don't really care about that shit and want the absurd replay and autistic character fine-tuning value this game offers instead.

I don't have stealth though. At that proximity he'd already have pumped-and-dumped me before teleporting away.

from everything I've seen, everyone seems to consider combat shotguns shit.

how viable is stealth?

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do you ever meet the guys from recovery team alfa? I've rescued the professor and all that, when I radio them they say they're at the camp, but I haven't seen them. is my game bugged to shit?

>mfw killing everyone in the grey army base including the lunch lady

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>I don't have stealth though
Then you have no excuse not to be a tin can that laughs at their puny stings.

very

>I'll just finish the one quest and head off to expedition
>10 quests later I'm level 20 now

Fuck, I think I've ruined it for myself.

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>you have no excuse not to be a tin can
I use tac vests. Really they're not unbeatable, just extremely unfun because you can't fucking spot them from a reasonable distance, at least not without stealth like with that webm.

viable?
It's pretty much gives you full control over every battle since it bypasses the initiative check and always lets you go first.

How did you become so sidetracked, user?

Same situation. I was planning to do DLC around level 16, but now I'm level 21.

You might as well do it from level 20 since you'll be having to deal with faggots dealing one gorillion damage from offscreen with their crossbows all the time, and also facetanking endless sneknigger invasions to avoid letting sec personnel die, and don't even get me started on the awful naval combat.

What does psi do for initiative?

How do i start expedition?

If I forgot everything since I last played, am I going to get assfucked playing a special pistol build?

Lost myself doing side areas for hours on classic mode and ended up overleveled too.
Felt good to dab on the content for a change not going to lie.

Can I wait some amount of time for enemies to deaggro in a zone?
>go into screen
>5rathound LMAO

Nice one user, that's all I needed to hear. I'll gladly spend that extra 1 ability point elsewhere.

>classic mode

I just lost control, also wanted to grab some specific gear.

this graveyard is spoopy
dont even have a reason to be here atm, so i'll just stay out for now

no

Chem and energy pistols are ridiculously good.

why the FUCK won't any shopkeepers sell a GODDAMN STURDY VEST AAAAAAAAAA

So when's a good level to go into expedition content? On my second playthrough and I'm blazing through the game, pure psi is fucking ridiculous.
The speedup options help a lot too.

Welp
Got my ass systematically kicked by Carnifex

There is one trader that sells high quality Sturdy vests, is Marty on the upper underrail railroad system
From Core City upper underrail station, venture north, then west, following the orange line
However he ONLY sells high quality sturdy vests once you completed the entire questline of a Core City faction

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Well it isn't actually required

Dude just alt tab for like an hour and do something else LMAO
Leave me alone meanie, classic is for true gamers like myself.

am i just or are you supposed to struggle early game with a psi build?

Still worth it to run a assault rifle as sidearm

This game is like crack.

>find anti rifle overcoat on random dude with 22 DT and 200% increased DT against bullets
>massive swathes of the game become piss easy because 66 effective DT
I feel like I'm fucking cheating at this point

How early? Immediately after getting pyrokinesis and pyromaniac it became a cakewalk for me and that was right before Depot A.

Yes full psikers struggle a lot at the start of the game, it's normal
Abuse the 'Chill' effect of cryokinesis and the stuns of Telekinetic punch

What about fire pistols? Are they any good?

You're kidding me right? Psi has it better at every stage of the game but it's particularly noticeable both: the higher you go in difficulty and the earlier you are in the game.

how early

in my experience they're usually really good by around level 8 so long as you rush force user

Adrenaline Shot
Psycho-temporal Contraction
Psycho-temporal Acceleration

Was Foundry supposed to be the very first thing you do after the Depot A? The difficulty level of quests is very low and oddities are stuffed in nearly every fucking corner.

fire pistols are a chem pistol and yes they're retarded good

*retarded good so long as the enemy doesn't have this character portrait/model

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autism crack

newton quest

What about Al Fabet?

stop talking about styg's butt

then yeah you're still a weak little shit

you still don't have it as bad as most builds do during that quest though, atleast you can kite them

>Al Fabet
>enemy

Only combat shotties can burst fire. I'm running a shotty + time mage build with extended mag so I can perform two 4-shot bursts in one round.

bros what the fuck I go fuckin' deal with shitty fucking spiders to get to the mines and they're all fuckin' unusable
do I have to go inside the place south of them to find usable mines? shit's fucked I don't want to try that until I know its my last resort. I just cheesed the guys on the dock with a jetski and high bio resist armor, but now the melee guys can get me since I'm on land

Molotovs, HE grenades, caltrops, traps, beetles cant open doors

>implying he's not

Cryokinesis should suffice for azuridae. Low cost so even two at a time should be fine if you regenerate psi at all. Do you have low INT?

go to corecity

>fully charge the Lifeman robo in the medical center
>still can't open the door
wtf do i do

Core City harbor.

What's a build that has many options with regards to both combat and non-combat.

I love the idea of a character who has numerous choices, maybe traps, maybe an energy pistol, maybe a grenade, a rare psi power here or there. But also is able to craft or lockpick.

Is it possible to build something like that and still be effective? If not, what's the best middle-ground that is all about the theme 'options'?

The prophet Al Fabet is everyone's eternal bre, don't spread your ignorance here.

>get super expensive sniper
>miss 2 shots in a row with 12 per on newton's quest and proceed to get raped by two (2) psi beetles because RNG
>Restart the game as a psion again because who wants to deal with that shit
I'd pay top dollar for a balance patch that makes my guns exceed that capricious 95% cth cap

most builds people run typically have lockpicking + hacking + crafting + a maxed combat skill as well as some points in either throwing or traps

You sure it isn't still missing a tiny little tick that's practically invisible?

how? aren't you wearing max tungsten armor?

Burst fire's nice when it comes up and removing a problem target immediately is nice but you lose a lot of overall damage unless you have drugs or time manipulation. I've just been using the non-burst guns.

Also, seriously, am the only one who keeps getting startled by the fucking jumpscare crab spawns? It's so loud and jarring.

you don't need skills for traps or nades and should be carrying them anyways

Ive kept charging it with large batteries just to be sure. still isnt opening shit

>super expensive sniper
>newton's quest

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lock picking and hacking dont really need to go higher than 50 points for at least like 60% of the game. crafting is not really useful imo and should only be dipped into just enough to unlock health/psi syringes.

but you do??

>bear traps
>he mines/grenades
>pyrokinesis
>corners/doors
>cryokinesis any survivors
yawn

Recommended level for expedition?

What you're describing is impossible and exactly the type of build that you should avoid working towards unless you're a fucking expert and know exactly where your points are going.

Sadly, no my 3 INT doesnt allow me to craft a high tier tungsteen armor, my current armor has 25 DT, which is not enough for Carnifex, I need around 10 more points for it
Here's the real problem, I got myself into Praetorian Security and I cant pass the warehouse quest, for all the fucking mercenaries are RIGHT there waiting on the entrance door, so I need level up more, and since I cannot complete a core city questline, I wont have access to workbenches
Goddamm

50 lockpicking and hacking won't even unlock half the shit in Depot A user

Strange. He opened that door and left as soon as he was charged for me.

>snort cocaine
>use crowbar

15+

>I got myself into Praetorian Security and I cant pass the warehouse quest, for all the fucking mercenaries are RIGHT there waiting on the entrance door
Bribe the janny so you can enter through the vents.

15

I just started exploring the caves. I just hit 14 and have not done a single quest in Hrathor, Core, or Railroad Xing on oddity.

No, that's the Gorsky quest in a Protectorade warehouse
As Praetorian, you're forced to clear the warehouse full of 15 different types of mercenaries without other entrance

>he doesn't steal/pickpocket pretty much everything in junkyard-GMS and grind/loot lower passages and side areas before doing newton's
ask me how i know you're an f9 pressing normal difficulty casul

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Haven't played for a while and never made it super far into the game, as I restarted the game multiple times and played to like after junkyard to try out different builds.

How do the new weapons play like? What differentiates swords and spears from other melee weapons? Why would I go shotgun, sounds like it would play like heavy assault to me? how are other builds affected by the new additions?

every single time a relatively unknown game is out, we get this reddit tsunami of FAG that is so bad at games you just want to shit in their mouth for it

what happened plebbit, did your subplebbit not answer your turboscrub question instantly so you run over here? fuck you
they even openly false-flag against the deserved reddit tag like the subhuman poojeets that they are
*spits*

So
Every snoiper build usually carries a secondary weapon for cqc
You think it would be viable to use proper psi attacks like cryoshot or mind crush as your secondary attack instead?

Doors user, animals can't open fucking doors, just open one, throw shit then close it

oh yeah, I'm sure you got REAL far in them tunnels LOL

Gorsky sucks flaccid cocks

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Ah sorry I'm retarded and keep mixing Praetectorate and Protorian, Either way, do you just get attacked by all the mercs as soon as you enter the warehouse? For me, I had a little bit of room to move after entering and could take out the merc by boxes on the left to start the fight, then keep in mind the melee guy that shows up later from the right. You can probably use a molotov to funnel them to one side.

Dont you get boosts to hacking and locking picking depending on how high your Intelligence or Dexterity are?

Spear = low basic attack damage but extremely powerful special abilities
Sword = gets buffed more and more with successive hits but buffs are lost if you miss an attack
Shotgun = lower range than assault rifles, crazy damage

All of them
Literally as soon as I enter
The problem is that FUCKING Sniperfag sniping me outside view and another FUCKING Crossbowfag netting me, and these FUCKING knifefags crippling the shit outta of me and I cant run

God why am I getting so fucking destroyed in this game. Like every single dog just hits me for half my hp in a single turn and it takes me like 2 turns to kill it.

swords are very high risk high reward, as long as you keep hacking shit they have more speed and more damage but you lose it if you miss, spears are like a mix between melee and ranged thanks to spear throw, the catch is that you have to go pick up your spear once you throw it and it gives decent defense through block

>STILL
>NO
>SHELL
>BELT

What the fuck do I have to do, Styg? I've killed your pirate shotgunners, I checked Blaine and Jonas several times.

Swords - High Risk, High Reward. Can be extremely deadly if you land your hits, but not so efficient if you are not hitting your stacks (Sword relies on stack effects to increase crit chance and debuff opponents).

Spears - Versatile. 2 tile hit range, medium weight, relies on Dex and Str. Weaker stats compared to other melee weapons, but still very strong in my opinion. Spear feat ability has some of the most OP feats out there like spear throw, which some people have reported to have hit up to 5k in damage.

Have you trying going to the left and aggroing them from the window? They will even shoot adrenaline so you could try to time it and catch them during fatigue.

what's the actual roleplaying like in this game?

As far as the outside area where there are burrowers and lunatics yeah, easily done at lvl 4 on dominating if you know where the stalkers are and have enough coin for a few bear traps and mollys.

yes but not shitloads
even with 13 in both of those stats you'd have less than 90 effective skill with 50 points invested

You need to use all your options. Sometimes even a crapshoot last chance molotov that can and will set yourself on fire along with your enemy might just save you. Use everything no matter what you spec into and explore your options, there are probably many things you're not aware of yet.

I tried to that, I think thats exacly why they are on the entrance
The mercs that couldnt stab the window due the crowd started to walk around the whole place, the same mercs that are on the entrance
I was better off not standing by the window

Fuck

Swords and spears sound fucking rad. Guess I will play around with the character build tool a bit. Any tips on what to focus on, and what supports these playstyles? Are they better for tanky or speedy playstyles?

the 95% shit is so stupid, it was one of the worst parts of Fallout they could have copied

I saw one being sold in SGS early on so you can for sure get it there with RNG and I also found one in Depot A

Shotguns let you get by with 5 strength letting you either go full agility or constitution with 15+ perception. And they're actually fun to use.

KEEP
CHECKING

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the guy bragging about side areas cant fuck up a psi beetle, nigga please

autism

If you're playing on classic mode (which I'm guessign you are) you deserve this.

get temporal manipulation for spears, and pretty much for every single other build since it basically mixes perfectly with everything

okay i just didnt abuse the doors enough

I mean I'm trying but it took me lots of fucking cheesing to get through those junkyard mutants to find that fucking drill parts.

I think speedy builds with light armor are better for melee. But you'll have to use your movement and tools well to prevent all enemies from being able to attack you each turn.

anyone know any rift locations?

Is persuasion mandatory for certain quest lines?

>I tried to that, I think thats exacly why they are on the entrance
Ah yeah, if you aggro them once over there they'll flock to the entrance. GG, either load before you did that or just reload over and over at the entrance until you can survive into your turn. There's a closed off section at the back which can only be accessed by the sewers, maybe from there you can make a shitton of noise and draw them away from the entrance.

As long as you do metathermics and psychokinesis schools first it's not that hard. I just ignored the other two until at least level 5 for this run.

no

at least in fallout with 10 luck you get a guaranteed 100% hit chance even it only says 95%

Well if you got through then you can celebrate cause you're pretty much good to go from this point on.

Speedy for spear. Swords can do either.

That wasn't my point, the point is that i can be punished by RNG out of 100 action points (or more) on a super specialized build for not picking PSI, Jesus Christ man.
Yup

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I have 9 perception for this shotgun build and I'm wondering if it's worth it to go any higher. It kinda feels like I'm either in range to hit them or I need to get closer moreso than 'I bet I'd be more accurate if I had more perception!' Because otherwise I'm pumping my con to 10.

hit and run is shit for heavy armor hammer I think, but super good on knife or spear. That + sprint means you should be able to kill and get into cover every round

That's xcom baby.

if you ever want to play dominating get used to it, they are animals + doors are your best friends

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No! I wont surrender that easy
I will keep leveling up until I become stronger and/or craft a super armor

extremely based

Uh you guys know that psibugs abilities can be disabled with a throwing net and then getting into melee range.

Where else would you put your points

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ok

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First time player here, yeah psi feels to me like it struggles a bit early on. It's definitely gotten a lot easier as I got more psionics options though. Depot A was a hellish experience filled with reloads and shooting enough meds into my system to fully engorge a bull elephant, but past that, outside of some retarded one shots I blindly stumbled into (some sniper fag in a tunnel a bit beyond Rail Crossing, for example, who just kills me from full shield and health), the game's difficulty has begun to smooth out pretty well.

On Normal and using Based Classic mode though.

I told you. Con. I have a juggernaut build with con at 8 so I'm actually quite a hefty boy.

Remember that shotgun accuracy does not work like firearm accuracy 50% chance to hit doesn't mean 50% chance to hit that target it means 50% of the pellets you fire will hit.

>Burning man build
>Calmly walk into the enemies, with a tranquil demeanor, as you scream AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in a soul shattering scream of pain

Try from the sewer side, maybe someone is still there to see you.

Right. So I should just get con, is what you're saying.

You'll regret classic once you're level 20 before you've even started the dlc

>Remember that shotgun accuracy does not work like firearm accuracy
It does tho.

>50% chance to hit doesn't mean 50% chance to hit that target it means 50% of the pellets you fire will hit.
No, it means each pellet has a 50% chance to hit

Just got to Core City, did one of Gorsky's quests...Anything else I should look out for to do here?

would oddity be hard if you have no lockpick/hack/pickpocket + im not really a player to check every barrel

Core City quest
Occulus quests
Start doing Arena matches

I don't even have the DLC. I've owned the game for a while due to past sales, I just never got into it until now because all of the people playing it got me hyped, and theres been tons of QOL changes since I attempted it last so stuff that pissed me off, like the slow ass movement speed, is gone now.

Wait, yeah, I didn't read the post clearly. I don't know why I said 'right' because that's not right. It's also why 20p feels like it does more damage on average than most of the other shotgun types so long as the target isn't super armored.

Text says you'll be immune to fire though.

Probably yeah

Abram

if you helped abram in the junkyard you can find him here and go from there

Yeah it would suck for you. Play classic and fuck the autists on here who think the experience is not authentic and is "cheating".

As someone who never took the Regalia off the whole game my first run, you are not 'calm' around fire. Not for one second.

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Is there going to be some faction choices or something here? Looks like theres 3 of them, who is best for a psi guy?

The DLC adds a ton of stuff to the base game bre. Get it if you like the game.

>would oddity be hard if you have no lockpick/hack/pickpocket + im not really a player to check every barrel
No. There's next to no oddities that are gated behind lockpicking/hacking and very few behind pickpocket.

I totally ratted out Abram because he looked like an edgelord faggot. So thats a no go.

I want to, but I don't know how I'd fit in time magic, and I'm broke man.

>that sad justification
lmao, do what you want, it's a single player game. Is 100% is not the way the game was designed to be played regardless of how you try to rationalize it, though.

Sorry.

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>He ratted out the fucking Illuminati

very
wheeze
poor choice, user

There he is posting that pic again, I baited him out.

> I totally ratted out Abram
congratulations, you fucked up really bad.

there is barely any oddity behind pickpocket/hacking/lockpicking , specially ones that you can't get any other way, hell there is more than enough oddities to max level 2 times in the whole game

there he is, mad as fuck and trying to justify his decisions to people online again

I would go con, if you are playing hard or dominating enemies get a boost to their stats making your to hit lower if you dont have high perception

Fuck'em, he wouldn't talk to me initially, he's dressed like a fedorafag, and tried to make me his bitch errand boy. I've got psionics, if he comes at me I'll explode his brain out of his asshole.

I know, that's what makes it hillarious
Imagine a tranquil man, on fire, starting his day, getting off bed, preparing his coffee, goes out of his home to reach the newspaper, neightbour next's door is also there, watching horrified as he, well, is on fucking fire.
Burning man smiles and waves at his neightbour in greetings, he opens his mouth
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And then walks back at home with his newspaper and coffee at hand. What a good day.

>ratted out abram

congratulations you cucked yourself from the best quest chain in the game pre-dlc

>hell there is more than enough oddities to max level 2 times in the whole game
Not really, no.

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What do you think of Russian Game Man and his version of TS build? It's pretty similar to what I was doing

>wheeze
What happens if you have enough persuasion to convince him to treat his lung cancer?

None of them in particular are better for a psi guy -if I remenber correctly-
You can choose Praetorian Security or Coretech
I -think- you unlock a trader for praetorian security when you finish all it's quest, not entirely sure about Core Tech

youtube.com/watch?v=njS68RyhzDQ
forgot the link, my mistake

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>Snitched Abram
*WHEEEEZE*

He shows you the reason he's like this to shut you the fuck up.

it worked

with the dlc there are

anyone tried playing psiker that focuses on temporal distortion and continuum ripple?

I suppose, but can't say I tried.

He will show you it's no mere lung cancer
And show you why you shouldnt have asked that in the very first place

Expedition also increases the level cap by 5 and those 5 levels take over 60 XP each. It's actually even harder now, I was only level 28 before DC.

Yes. It's rough early but cleared Depot A with no effort. I rerolled it around level 13 because I find Thermodynamics way more fun.

You will have no problems, just don't go psychosis with it.

>He shows you the reason he's like this
He's a mutant? Or what?

infused cave hopper leather armor
and either:
cave hopper boots with the highest q boot springs you can find
or
infused ancient rathound leather tabis of the highest quality you can find
forgot about that sprint cooldown; you'll net more move points with either of these two things

what were your base stats?

Pick persuasion to find out!

How do I make my character marry Ladelman?

What stats should I take for a spear build? Shield or no shield? What feats other than the obvious spear(/shield) ones should I look out for?

nope
in the base game, there's enough oddity exp (all oddities, all possible quests) to get to almost 28th level

Or the doctor feat

Any good psi monk build guides around?

Str and Dex need to be high.
Spear throw, impale.
No shield, go speed spear guy, not heavy spear guy.

> almost 28th level
You can get a bit over 28

Guess I'm gonna try
It's on normal so I'm sure it's gonna be fine
maybe this time I can stick with a build long enough to finish the game

actually the same as the video I linked
I valued Blitz and initiative extremely highly. Early on, initiative is all you have to keep your bonus from Tranq.

I would also go a 6 con 2 points wherever 10 int build with paranoia. That would be more forgiving, easy to maintain tranq with Fast Metabolism, and have lodes e free skill points due to 10 int. The psi regen is whatever, a slight bonus that we don't really care about.

I wouldn't do a 9 con build myself with TM; not worth it.

Any chances we will get marriable NPC's that cook random stuff for us on a 1 hour timer and we can buy a cat/dog pet and furnish our house in the future?
Also where my CLASSIC chads @?

few posts above theres a yt link to some guy who have a lot of builds. im pretty sure psimonk is there

Underrail: Stardew Station coming SOON bre

Classic is the only way to play, Oddity is for retards who want to Stealth past every fight because it does nothing but waste their time instead of actually playing the game.

Is that beggar at the north part of the first area supposed to be a "this aint your grandma's game" type moment? Am I even supposed to be over here for that base reactivation quest? Then I went below and got stabbed by youths, fuck this game is hard.

Is there any way to make peace with the Tribals or at least explore their stuff? Also I've been hearing about Yngwar and can't seem to find him, unless he's the hostile guy in the cave

Oh, do be advised while Ripple does spread your Distortions, you wait 2 turns for the initial proc, 2 more turns for the spread ones to blow up, 2 turns for THOSE spreads to blow up, etc.

It's a lot of waiting which is why I ended up ditching the idea. The classic LoC freeze everybody or Thermo 1 turn OHKO still work better with less effort.

Classic is for cheater zoomers who are only one step above faggots using trainers to get level 30 instantly. Sorry, sweety.

>force user
>stasis

hmm
didnt realize my crossbow chick was missing 12+ exp; thought it was like 6-7

>Is there any way to make peace with the Tribals
No.

>at least explore their stuff
You mean, learn more about them? Yes.

> Also I've been hearing about Yngwar and can't seem to find him
You'll know when you find him.

>and furnish our house in the future?
But you can do that in the present.

you will become truly immersed

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>The virgin stealth PSI oddity player vs the spearChad aluminized cloth classic player

You're like 6 short if you didn't find the torch and used it on 2 shadowliths

I don't think I ever said you didn't have the tools to wait. It works perfectly. It's also a lot of waiting for mobs to figure out they can't walk past a force field. That's it. That's all I said.

I would prefer to end the fight in 1-2 turns, but pure TM works just fine.

I can't seem to get the stats to line up right when remaking this build
> 5 str, 7 dex, 6 agi, 7 con, 10 per, will 3, int 5
that's too many points
Best I can do is
> 5 str, 7 dex, 6 agi, 7 con, 7 per, will 3, int 5

I don't see the npc thing because the game doesn't even have companions even though combat system works well enough where you can fight along side a small army. This game could be like xcom if it wanted.

No, they are there to be killed.
If you are talking about the waterfall cave and the savage doing a ritual then no, but you are close. If it's a different cave and he is hostile then you have already fucked up.

you ding dong, I said the base game

Giv Ethan hazubando pls

I met and spoke with Yngwar and it ended with him leaving. Will I see him again or what? Been looking for that shard as well but haven't had any luck.

This is what I'm running with at the moment, pretty dominating.

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You sure you want that?

Doesn't look like it but thanks

Did he give you the rune drawing?

Then you're wrong, since levels after 25 cost 60, 61,62, 63 and 64 XP.

STOP

PLAYING

CLASSIC

YOU HAVE TO LOOK INSIDE EVERY BARREL AND DIG THROUGH TRASHCANS JUST LIKE I DO

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>Will I see him again or what?
Nope, he is gone.

Guess not. I assume I'm fucked now?

Nothing in will?

>this sensitive he's playing on baby mode

STOP

PLAYING

ODDITY

YOU HAVE TO FARM RATHOUNDS UNTIL YOU'RE LEVEL 30 BEFORE DEPOT A LIKE I DO

How exactly does the spread angle work on shotguns? I'm wondering if the short barrel making the spread angle be 55 is gonna make a big difference if I always fire my shotgun in barrel stare range. Will all of my pellets still be able to hit from there even with a shorty?

He can do magic tricks with fizzly water which means he would be a hit with the kids, is very very young and dresses sharp as fuck!!
How is that even a question lmao.

There's nothing beneficial in regards of feats for will without sacrificing something crucial.

yes, I was wrong, it's almost 27, not almost 28
still

Oh fuck I just chose tranquility for my full PSI character not knowing how big a decision it was. Is it generally good? Does it open up good feat down the line?

Did he tell you about that guy that got killed by a pebble?
Remember what body part got hit.

Has anyone actually sided with the pirates? Does it make a difference? I'm at the point where I can either go in guns blazing or somehow make friends with them.

For me, its Katherine from Junkyard.

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You have to do that anyway since you need all the money in the world.

>Tranquility is a feat. It is one of two possible development paths for psionic characters.
What the fuck I've never taken either of these what do they do?

then why are you posting a picture of my wife, Sneaky of the Zone Rats?

Yahota is the best waifu. Sneaky isn't even useful as an ally, Yahota literally 1-shots enemies.

it just increases the size of the cone infront of you for where your pellets can hit assuming they miss the primary target but don't miss completely. It hardly matters and it makes me wonder what the fuck styg was smoking when he decided that the choke should lower damage to 'compensate' for having a smaller spread angle.

Best feeling is when an NPC who isn't really suppose to die, dies and you get to loot their shit.

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how do you make yngvar not attack when you first meet him?

It's better if your gameplan leans towards sustainability instead of just nuking everything.
Although not all that different in the grand scheme of things.

No, fuck her.
She loses her shit every time i accidentally click that footlocker that's like 1 pixel in front of her.
Like.. bitch if you don't want me to even look at it why do you make it so easy for me to missclick in the first place?

stop being racist not all lady abrams look the same

I agree, but I don't even need the loot.

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intimidate

>lady abrams
Did you just cuck yourself?

Wider the angle and farther the target, the less THC for the pellets.

Okay, well, that works, then. Thanks.

Or pass the INT check. Or challenge him to a spear duel and not be shit.

I love doing this.

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>killing six
lol

What does he drop?

I thought they were all just siblings that dress alike?

Didnt you get that from the wiki? That quote?

Nothing, because you are not supposed to be able to kill him. His method was patched years ago.

Yeah, I thought it was in the neck? Think I might be too much of a brainlet though, committed a genocide on the savages and still haven't figured it or the graveyard out.

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There's a rune in the village that tells you which body it is if you fucked up go talk to the ferryman about it and he tells you which body part.

It would be better if you had it figured out before you entered, because it is randomized in four fucking ways.

Tranquility is great, yeah. It's a different play style than psychosis of course. And yeah stuff like Locus of Control is fucking amazing.

...did you just incest cuck yourself? Jesus Christ user, stop.

Million dollar question: Do hives respawn or are they gone for good when I break them?

ye i just realized that the playstyle is quite boring
i guess its time reroll

don't kinkshame me or my wife's son/nephew ever again

gone

Yeah, I'm 100% sure I know the body part, I just don't know what to do with that knowledge.

Got the graveyard check the right rune for the right body
Hoist up the body
Check the body part
Acquire the shard

Doing alright.

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Gone. Just thinking of respawning hives gives me nightmares.

Any cheat tables for this game. I wanna just blast through everything.

>evasion and dodging
If you do it right you will have movement points and all kinds of stuns and disables which makes makes the very concept of ever getting hit laughable.

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look for his club at the village

yeah, play on CLASSIC lol

Yeah it's going full psi on classic.

You get 2 more base points in CON at level 30 by taking increased constitution feat. Starting is
5 7 6 5 9 3 5

>classic xp

based and odditypilled

Ah, I see. That makes sense. Thanks for explaining.

The chad way to play.

Me too

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Remnider that shotgun enemies are in fact your friends.

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What's the max amount that's necessary of every skill? Is there a list somewhere that mentions the point where it's useless to add more points into a skill (ie because of diminishing returns/caps/no higher checks etc)

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kek

>loaded dice 1 of 4.
how old is this image

>started making super steel like 3 hours ago
>return from the black sea finally to go reap the harvest I have sown
>still melting
what
I thought it was a half hour
did I get scammed and my game is bugged?

>easy mode
>not intended by dev or balanced
>he only can't remove it because people bought the game with it in
>being the Chad ANYTHING
lol the delusion

I am literally already on psi classic. Just give me the cheats.

we call it TURBOCHAD xp sweaty, get with the times oddity losers.

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what is best combat shotgun frame, long or short barrel, forward grip or tube for more shells?

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Sorry I don't know any more cheats.

Is there a cheat program so I can modify my character without starting again? I just want to take 1 stat point out of an attribute and put it into something else.

Pretty old.

not really, but you can work it out yourself with this
(Skill bench at your house gives 15% if you get them, so plan ahead)

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=843557165

Cheat engine

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what build should i play?

you might unironically be too retarded for this game

I've read that spears might be underpowered a few times. Is that actually true?

...I bet the black sea has its own counter
leave the game running for an hour, exit the super steel map then go back in and talk to him

Alternatively, high int.

>There are people that don't play with CE speed hack.
what the fuck

How can you put up with that shit?

>no eye
It hurts

Yes

I wanted to do something similar but had to restart. The way the game loads data makes cheat tables wacky so many tablemakers don't bother. We're talking like, you have to wait to select a feat to LOAD the feats to be able to modify them kind of stuff.

i mean, you are already cheating pretty hard, you might aswell download cheat engine and just make yourself immortal or something

by not being a filthy cheater

grab cheat engine tablet

Who 1000% combat speed here?

>there are people who are too retarded to read patch notes and/or what changed in the DLC

How can you put up with that shit?

Is mental subversion ever worth it?

thanks user

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they aren't even similar in the slightest

I have it on another character who is also capable of getting all the oddities; I just didn't finish before the beta started. Someday.

fucked up, man
guess I'll blast through some quests

How do I actually navigate the swamp? I walked into this area with a bunch of heartbreakers and hives but it looks like I need a jetski to go in any further, and I can't get past the rocks or anything.

Thank anyway.
Yeah, I was hoping to take the easy way out but I guess Ill do it manually.
That's the wrong "too" idiot
Immortal is nof un

Just save yourself the trouble and jetski around that shithole and watch out for pirates

Feel free to point out the patch where it was implemented.

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How do you wind the drum fellas?

Classic players everyone

In the graveyard?
It's randomized that one of them could have the crank on them already so you can take it out or you can find it lying around.

Yeah, but there's a shotgun in the Viridescent Valley..

Stop saying "shotty" you sound like a fruitcake.

Oddity player that hasn't done the DLC yet :).

I'll assume you're just a purist slowie that's baiting. Get CE and stop wasting your own time, mate.

Shoddy Shotty!!

Different games. Like both.

Appreciate it, lads
Another question though, what are the potential outcomes for the medical center?
I had high enough will to get body horror but out of curiosity I was wondering what other outcomes there were?

Goddamn, soon as I read this I immediately found it the next screen over. Thanks.

How good are Power Management and Skinner?

>tfw pickpocketing oddities off mooks far too high level for you to fight
Damn it feels good to play standard.

Not getting your resolve reduced to shit.

Power management makes endgame shields ridiculous while skinner is pretty meh with the diminishing returns from infused leather.

>5x speed isn't enough
>probably has the game on 100x speed, doesn't read anything, doesn't loot anything
>classic exp
fucking zoomers were a mistake. Why even "play" a fucking game at that point?

power management is great
skinner is a decent buff but honestly not worth a feat imo, unless you're going for a max crit-chance build

Warehouse is a fucking nightmare. I could barely complete that quest by covering the entire floor in traps.

where does the ferryman take the sub? I accidentally skipped the dialogue and have no clue what to do now.

The reward for will is actually not getting Body Horror.

>He plays oddity where you kill defenseless rats, fish, and steal shit as a means to level instead of actually getting out there and blowing shit up
Lmaoing @ your life odditycuck

Eh I don't mind the unoptimized bits so much since hopefully, I can sort it with philosophy once I find out where that is. Is there at least an ending slide or maybe an interaction with the final boss if you have it? Or just crit for reduced resolve?

oddity mode more of a grind killing mobs and they don't drop collectables. Classic you dont have to level up if you dont want to also LOL

Couldn't be further from the truth, my dear!

In fact it's because I do everything and loot everything that CE is so necessary. Being able to toggle super speed and instantly teleport across the map is great for when you're hauling shitloads of gear back to base.

I guess you could say speed hack really helps me zoom :)

L2 on your map.

LemCO

>Dude what if we just made it so that it's impossible to get a shotgun until after Depot A unless you have 20 persuasion
cringe, shit game

thxx guys

rush mechanics

Actually it might be another coordinate nearby L2. I cant precisely remember.

stay mad nigger

lmao just buy one poorfag

You can buy one from the armory you know?

Even on the hardest difficulty you can reliably craft a very fucking decent one with 5 fucking int even before finishing newton's quest.
Great bait man.

Thanks

I found two high quality shotguns in junkyard. You have to have decent stealth to get.

It's annoying there aren't spear/machete/shotgun enemies outside of the dlc

there are

theres a machete dude in the lurker base now and theres a webm circling these threads of a free drone with a shotgun killing his mates

I'm too dumb for this shit and cant unga bunga my way in am i missing any misson or lore shit in here?

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Man psychosis got cucked hard by the new school.
I feel like the increased cost shouldn't expand to the support psi. No matter how good it is to have an auto-crit ability you simply sacrifice too much for it.

there are
plenty of shotgun guys
haven't seen a spear user in underrail yet though
not just the base

Anyone got Telekinetic punch build?

>he plays baby mode
>trying to laugh at anyone else
lol @ your crutches, zoom zoom

just a special weapon

I don't know why I thought bio DT would protect against poison injections. Wouldn't even make sense.

Sonocaster an energy weapon based on soundwaves or something.

it's balanced out by the fact that psych gets a bigger psi pool for free now, too.

Oddity exp

Some guards and hunters in Camp Hathor have spears.

>Dude just buy one man, wtf
You cannot buy this until Core City. Period.
Apologists are retarded.
No you can't. The price for parts is ridiculous.

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A camp hathor dude teaches naval jousting.

The casting for health thingy?
Honestly not very impressive as well compared to a free adrenaline.

Sniper builds can afford to craft a decent sniper before going into depot A. Shotgun parts aren't any more expensive.

>kill the Beast
>go to explore the rest of the mine
>dev actually bothered to add miners all over the map as well as new barricades with guards near unexplored passages
The attention to details is fucking amazing.

This shoeless nigga broke

Be sure to return to SGS outposts and Hathor's mine, too.

You can buy/find parts or you can lug back kit to sell off in exchange. Clear out the bandits right in front of the train station and their kit will usually buy you something nice

No, the Philosophy III feat.

wrong and gay, you can make money so easily in junkyard, lol
the shotgun you get from the 20 persuasion check fucking sucks as well, the only reason you would want to actually pass the check would be if you were a turbo autist and wanted to collect every unique weapon in the game.

I don't see a problem with it, they get Hemo to get access to a larger pool. And the thing is, you are not forced to pick psycho or tranq, you could always pick neither and gain nothing but lose nothing either.

What's the ferryman getting at with his weird gnostic philosophy? Also do I need more int to unlock conversation options? He won't tell me about the center because he says I haven't understood the other concepts well enough.

With tranq you don't ever lose anything too, at worst you get a base psi.

Is this........ the power of four drunken slavs with unlimited time on their hands?

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Take the int pill to understand.

Already killed them. Repaired the SMG too so it sells for more. Still don't have enough to buy a barrel, the frame and the blueprints.

slavic magic is real, and its a beautiful thing.

isn't rage single target?

I have 7 int. Cerebrix time?

How do I build a machete character? Seems like they need alot of different stats. Light armor for mobility to better keep your stacks or heavier armor to not be a complete glasscanon?

i went to lemco after having the conversation, i went back to make sure and he says i'll meet you there - he's not here and there's no sub :(

Anyone got a good shotty build? Trying to think of how to balance it out. Thinking a shotgun assault rifle hybrid, leaning toward shotguns. How heavy to go with the armor and which feats to prioritize are a bit confusing though.

Yup also works for other int checks

bru get some shoes befor thinking about shotguns & shit lmao

You lose a feat. If you know you don't want the defensive/control playstyle tranq demands there's no reason to take it. For example if you won't have stealth or initiative, it's not likely you'll get much out of it even on your first turn.

just buy a few bear traps and go rob the rich dude with the old man's knife in junkyard. that's how i usually afford a sniper before depot A, i haven't paid attention to shotties but i can't imagine they cost more.

I bought or made a shotgun before I even got to rail crossing, user.

Also asking again, how do I get to the other side of the swamp here in my jetski so I can actually get to the Viridescent Quarry?

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Wot
I'm level 6 in junkyward on dominating and I just crafted a bunch of shit and I've been drinking psi boosters like candy.

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>throwing molotov to illuminate area where enemy is so you get ambush bonus
brilliant
why did I never think of that

I had a shotgun before I made it to junkyard

What is this build?

Also, nice portrait.

meant to quote

If you have a decent way to heal yourself (Fast Metabolism, Doctor, etc), you really don't need either stealth or initiative. Everything you need is one turn of rape.

You can sneak past the pirates give me a minute to draw a line.

is there a bug with calling in remotely to ferryman to deliver the sub? on my save the sub is gone from its location, it's not in l2 and the ferryman has nothing to say about it, after i contacted him on the radio to move it.

Never doubt slav magic

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How do you learn the philosophy feats? Just play through the dlc areas?

I made spear on dominating and it feels shit because I win 90% with grenades.

ATOM is such a fuckin' good game, if only all the best parts of ATOM were combined with all the best parts of Underrail

How long does respawn take? I accidentally must've broken down my psi vest, but it was kind of old always. I found a Goliath, but it didn't drop anything.

He won't be there, he just drops it off right here L2.

How the fuck did you get so much money?

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But you are already thinking of ways to make it into a tranq build. The point is you don't have to make one and force yourself into the gotta have max hp mindset, one turn is not going to change the world unless you plan on playing defensively from there.

Stick to the map edges to avoid pirates and it gets you straight to where the sub needs to be but you have fight a bunch of spiders to get to the naval mines.

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welcome to dominating, bitch. enjoy your stay.

What pirates? In Port Crag? They're fucking dead.

I'm so fucking poor bros
I'm level 19 or something, man
I got like 3.5k charons
so this... is the power of 20 effective merchantile...
fucking jet ski from ray's never

Speak with the Ferryman a lot and have high int

About two hours usually.

>classic xp

High how? I have 8. Should I pump it to ten?

Thanks homo but I've cleared it twice already. My rant was about boring spec.

>drop stuff on the mine before killing the mine
>it's tagged as owned now that the miners moved in
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Reload the area until it drops 100+ qual carapace

I bet you missed the oddity there too

yeah weird as fuck, not there for me. very frustrating bug, wonder what i did wrong.

Which one?

just take +2 int pill before starting a dialog

I didn't do anything special. Repair shit for maximum gain, steal what I can, do quests, et cetera. Just doing a circuit of junkyard and stealing shit gives you like 200-400 coins. Just doing Abram's quests gives you like 1.2k coins.

>before killing the mine
Meant the beast, derp.

The lantern

5 in str, 6 int, max con and per
Go for crit feats

You pay him the money?

So dont worry about getting full auto?

whats the 6 int for

Probably armor sloping

>sneaking in protectorate warehouse in core city for gorsky
>guard talks to me instantly after a transition
>cant select any dialogue choices so game is soft locked
geeze, thanks styg

First time playing this.

Will pirate and maybe buy it if I like it.

Will start on Hard and make a melee unarmed character with mind buffs.
Any tips or general directions?

my character is intelligent, nihilistic, and has a wicked sense of humor

>What's the ferryman getting at with his weird gnostic philosophy?
He is an old guy who spends all of his time alone out on the waters. He has nothing better to do but wait for death and think. And he probably had some fucked up background I guess since he gives you a fake name.

Start on normal. The game's hard enough if you haven't played it before.

Are psi beetles weak to fire or emp nades?

underrail.com/forums/index.php?topic=4092.0

So is spear guardian worth it?

Thinking something like this, though the feats are obviously kind of a mess order wise. Need at least 6 strength for Assault rifles right, so went to 7 so I could try full auto, or is full auto pretty meh?

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>is guaranteed block worth it?
You tell me.

Get shoes first then we can talk

Armor sloping, weapon smith, ballistics for later. The main reason for int is expose weakness with a low AP melee weapon then erase anything with 20p shot. Having a few extra points in dex or agility isnt worth it imo

The auto shotguns aren't impressive to me for the strength because they cost so much AP to use and you can still shoot 3 times with a forward grip and
adrenaline. Also metal armor doesnt work well with shotguns even if you waste stat points for sprint

>just started game
>doing outpost quest
>literally two screen in (first screen after the gatehouse, then the first screen west)
>somehow have aggroed five (5) rathounds who all wave their furry dicks in my face as soon as I enter the screen
Any advice, fellas?

Listen to what NPCs tell you goddamn.

I tried going AR and shotguns with metal armor and it wasn't that great and if you go into strength and dont wear metal armor it's a waste imo

I found putting everything into perception more worthwhile because the THC is for each pellet not a single shot, meaning every little bit you can get multiples the damage by alot

Kill them.

I already talked to the faceless outside foundry and turned in the quest with the chief, and right now I'm in buzzer's shop. I can't pass either speech checks. I think I need to kill the rest of the faceless here before buzzer tells me about cornell, right? He just gives me the "be careful about the rest of the faceless" lines trying to converse with him.

Will the foundry faceless disappear since I turned in the quest, or can I go back still and tell them about the cube? That, and I only need to help one or the other to befriend them in DC, right? That and maybe the injured one which I haven't done yet

>Pass by the medical center
>Immediately distracted
>Also making will saves with my 3 will

This is shaping up to be bad.

If you made the faceless outside of foundry leave you should be able to tell the faceless mindreader to fuck off and leave Buzzer alone.

What do you do at long ranges then? You can't ALWAYS be in shotgun range? Or do you just charge in anyway? Should I grab sprint?

Think no matter what you won't get the best outcome but if you do everything else right they won't be hostile.

Flares and molotov
Abuse doors, animals cant open doors
Abuse chokepoints, its better to have a mousedog mob attacking you 1 by 1

just let them kill him

submit, you are a slave to the rathound cock now.

>If you made the faceless outside of foundry leave you should be able to tell the faceless mindreader to fuck off and leave Buzzer alone.
they didn't leave yet though, how do I get them to do that?

fuck me if I'm gonna let a good vendor go to waste

Come back and pass the persuation check, Buzzer is really good merchant

AWOOOOOOOOO
AWOOOOOOOOO

Go back to your room
Assume fetal position
Cry

throw a flare

did you even read what the fuck the faceless told you? or do you just skip dialogue like a retard?

No merchant is worth 60 skill points.

I didn't think dropping a molotov on myself was a good idea. Does enemy damage persist if I'm off-screen (if I DoT them and run away, does it still do damage?)
I could also possibly try running to the door they are close to but that requires going through them
We'll see what happens!

Did you think you could just not pick up anything and have money?

Things that can hit you far away are probably going to stay there. Just get flash bangs and strider boots. Sprint is overkill if you aren't wearing heavy armor

Say that again when youre desperate for merchants to buy your shit to get super steel
Dumbass

ah fuck I figured it out, time to head back to foundry, I can still get the best outcome from this.

and yes I was skipping dialogue because I've played up to DC about a year ago before expedition

Quick question; once I've destroyed the rocks in the underground factory like area and around the Underrail leading to the various cities, do I need to lug around the Jackhammer any longer?

15 is a lot of weight for a STRlet

Is this "fenced area" Myles is telling me to look for (for the Rail Crossing abandoned warehouse emmiter thing) this first door in the dark tunnel? If so that's just retarded. These directions might be the worst thing of all time.

literally make a new character and READ NIGGA READ

Just bring like two TNT with you at all times for certain areas.

Is this guys youtube.com/watch?v=dfVq2NnM4TQ build (just scroll to the end) a good heavy armor sword build? Anything that should be changed?

Keep 2 or 3 TNTs in your backpack at all times

You can probably kill the bandits if you go out of SGS by the railway and kill some rathounds there to level up then come back to the starting quest if you don't want to make a new character because I don't think enemies ever reset if you've aggrod them and haven't killed them. You need molotovs though.

READ WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU

this fucking zoomers

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Can you go heaviest armor with full PSI?

literally just wait a bit and do a circuit through every other merchant

those jetski prices man
really pushing me to steal one

That strength requirement is going to gut at least one of your other stats. Doable if you're fine with that

So I made the mistake of talking about the Ferryman to Yngwar and now he won't talk unless I bring him food but for the life of me I can't find out what he'll eat. Does anyone know?

Cum

the psi crabs in the dlc drop psi carapace with massive armour penalty so you can go pretty heavy yeah

You can try, but its virtually impossible without getting caught at some level. In which the entire city turns against you.

When nobody is around steal the parts from the jetski then buy the jetski for a reduced price

Stop telling the super secret way of making boat loads of cash.

terrible, I'd take points out of dex past 12 and just pump con to capitalize that armor
paranoia isn't very good at all, especially with that whopping 3 per
you don't need traps at all, can save so many more points if you put only like 20 or 30 in throwing for grenades and like 35-45 into each psi school for shit like cryostasis, electrokinesis, mental breakdown, etc. just nice stuns to have and stuns are your bread and butter
literally no reason to have hacking and lockpicking that fucking high, highest check is like 130-ish I'm sure
onslaught shouldn't be taken that late
parry/riposte aren't the greatest things to take for 2 whole fucking feats
where the fuck is opportunist?

What's the difference between long and short barrels? What do they each add?

Well, at least I got another Fold-M! h-ha ha..

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Long barrel is standard damage and accuracy while short barrel is huge damage with reduced accuracy.

>paranoia isn't very good at all
30% damage vs stealth targets is amazing, nevermind the better detection you get and the protection against crits.
You're right that a low Per build shouldn't take it though, despite that probably being a thing made to help low per builds, it just works much better on high ones.

short barrel=more damage,more spread,-10% precision and long barrel is just tighter spread. I'd recommend short barrel since it looks like shotguns can only reach 75% accuracy max anyway

oh not only all that shit I listed but he doesn't even bother to take shit like premeditation, psycho-temporal acceleration, etc

retarded build

Shorter barrel is always better

I left her alive. I also pussied out on slaughtering the natives when I realized that they had civies in their village.

You can get philosphy to counteract the resolve reduction

how can you do it without the cameras seeing you?

You can do it even if the cameras see you.

?
how does that not trigger hostility?