I paid $1100 including tax for a Valve Index and the controllers only click when you push the thumbsticks in certain directions, the headset keeps shutting off and the worse part is after waiting 7 days for a response Valve is making me pay to return the defective unit back to them for a refund. The package weighs 16 pounds! I told them that's bullshit but they sent me a link to their return policy stating:
just ship it back who cares you arent poor are you user?
Sebastian Flores
It is pretty ridiculous that they force you to pay for return shipping, considering that they're not some fucking ebay scalper or rando selling on Amazon and are instead one of the most successful game-related businesses in history. It's not like they can't take the hit, what bitches.
Jaxon Bailey
I'm going to have to ship it back with something reliable and fully insure it. It's going to cost me $60 to get my $1100 back. I can't believe I'm going to lose money because Valve sent me defective junk. This was a big mistake.
Jeremiah Jenkins
Pretty sure you can fix that shit yourself. Google a guide. Don't preorder hardware next time, though. It's not like it can be fixed easily in a day without your involvement.
Mason Mitchell
VR is a meme gimmick fad that is already over.
Dylan Hill
>the controllers only click when you push the thumbsticks in certain directions It's not defective! It's by design, silly. t. Valve
Should of bought a Samsung odysey. It's insane people will spend almost 4 times the price for a headset with the same resolution and with slightly better refresh rate and controllers.
Benjamin Foster
You're a poor dumbass
Henry Reyes
Sounds like you fell for the Valve meme and the Facebook is bad meme, because I have only heard of issues like these with the Vive controller. Everybody knows the Vive Pro was a gimmick so obviously this would have been, you should have just got a Rift or Rift S
Thomas Diaz
It is a meme it's only good for racing / flying sims. Should have got an oculus desu
Jaxson Parker
live in a country with consumer protection lmfao amerifat btfo
its unironically not an issue. The stick movement is large and the clicking issues are at an edge only or they lack the tactile click and still function.
Literally the solution is not to click them at the edge of travel but plebbitors are too retarded and just get buttblasted over minor things.
Benjamin Sullivan
>facebook bad >meme i use that shit but cmon you can't be that retarded.
Michael Sullivan
Yes the company is trash but if that's the reason for not getting a Rift then you're the retard
Juan Gonzalez
>>Literally the solution is not to click them at the edge of travel You mean "don't use the basic functionality of the stick, the one that dozens of games expect, because Valve wanted to save 5 cents on stick production in 300 dollar peripherals"?
Unironically kill yourself. It's absolutely insane that 300 dollar joysticks, because those are the only reason anyone would buy knuckles in the first place, don't even work as joysticks.
Owen Rogers
BASED
Dylan Cooper
sounds like you listed quite a few reasons why it is better/costs more
Luke Price
Rift is straight up unusable. I've tried it, in a dozen different rooms with varying layouts, the tracking is just absolutely abysmal.
Lighthouses are the SOLE option. I fucking hope Pimax can shit out some decent controllers.
In an ideal world, I'd just be able to print a new shell for my Vive wands that tacks on a thumbstick and some face buttons, but unfortunately, VR is niche as fuck.
Aiden Wilson
you can press the sticks down at any angle on the beautiful rift controllers
they work in majority of the cases. You're just an unlucky one. Sure it's not okay for that issue to exist but the controllers aren't really artifically priced considerig wands cost 280 bucks.
Either suck it up paying for rma in your third world anti consumer shithole, open them up and fix them yourself or literally don't click sticks where they don't work but in areas where they do.
Alexander Mitchell
Your PC is not getting enough power then because the tracking is literally the exact same. Go back to redit
David Rodriguez
no I didn't get rift cause they have shit tracking and I didn't like the controllers. Now I got vive and index and I pirate every single ocushit game cause they don't want us to pay for them anyway.
>the controllers aren't really artifically priced considerig wands cost 280 bucks. Imagine arguing that the knuckles aren't overpriced because HTC, the company that put out a 1000 dollar headset only device, sells their shit for 300 bucks too. What's next, are you going to say that tracking pucks should be priced at 100 bucks each instead of the 20 maximum they should cost?
Benjamin James
I honestly don't understand why Valve kept the trackpads on the controllers after their Steam controllers flopped for that reason, you can tell Oculus' partnership with Microsoft paid off because the rift controllers feel like xbox one controllers
Camden Myers
>didn't like the controllers kek
>not to mention FB using your data illegally maybe just don't use Facebook, fuckwad
Austin Miller
>xbone elite >shitty generic xbone controller but costs 160 bucks and memed to be best >knuckles, single controller >filled with sensors and comfort and usbc charging and is 150 bucks for one
Honestly it's not bad. It's bad that they bought shitty joysticks but at least they replace them.
Caleb Brooks
Valve literally sabotaged HTC by telling them players didn't need thumbsticks because they were still pushing their trackpad cancer.
I don't know who it is on the design team that went to the Apple school of design, but holy fuck I hope one day they get hit by a truck.
Mason Parker
>maybe just don't use Facebook, fuckwad I don't have oculus so.
I find trackpads objectively superior and they're fucking great on steam controller. Steam controller is only controller that lets you play non gamepad games from couch eg shit like diablo and rts and other trash.
Zachary James
>at least they replace them Imagine sending your fucking 300 dollar controllers back halfway around the world because someone couldn't afford 10 cents in the budget.
I'm honestly glad they used "force sensing" garbage for the rest of the controller, that shit is idiot proof and almost impossible to break even if you do buy the cheapest stuff available. If they used actual buttons for shit like the thumbpad and grip, like every other company, I imagine half the controllers would be broken by now.
Gavin Peterson
I hope you're not assuming you need a Facebook account to use the OCULUS rift because that would really show your retardation
ocushit joysticks were near unusable in h3vr for gun interaction and i find them annoying to use as they get slippery from sweat.
Not to mention controller shape is pretty fucking shit and fuck that AA battery shit.
oculus is literally a small part of facebook. They track everything you do and they've confirmed to using that data at some point.
Nolan Miller
H3VR is just a very poorly made game in terms of controls, it took Anton years to add shit like twinstick movement, and right now you can't bind turn to buttons in SteamVR if you have Vive wands because... he's retarded?
Mason Scott
Move to a country that has better consumer laws.
Levi Lee
>H3VR is just a very poorly made game in terms of controls I definetly agree with the stuff you provided but shit like slide catches and stuff is just flat out easier and more comfortable on touchpad. And yes anton is retarded >refuses to get help to design levels and gamemodes and instead chooses to remake them over and over and over again slowly and marginally better each time
JUST FUCKING HIRE SOMEONE TO UNFUCK YOUR SHITTY LEVEL AND GAMEMODE DESIGN FUCK
Liam Reyes
Man, EUfags are taxed out of their ass, but they have 2 weeks to just send back any online order without giving a reason and receive a full refund.
Blake Lopez
Oh you're obese, of course you would have issues with slippery thumbsticks
>Controller shape is shit It's literally just an Xbox controller split in half
>AA battery shit obviously you would interchange rechargeable batteries dumb fuck, I would much rather go a month without needing to replace them then having to charge my controllers twice a day and making sure each one is up to date and double checking I have no way of unplugging my controllers while updating so they don't become literally bricked
Jonathan Young
>they've confirmed to using that data at some point.
prove that lmao
Justin Moore
taxes aren't that bad dude. Here you can go online start your own company in 10 minutes and get tax off everything you ever want making shit 20% cheaper.
Anthony Morales
>Oh you're obese, of course you would have issues with slippery thumbsticks what kinda mutated freak are you taht your hands dont sweat. You must have baby hands to find thumbsticks comfortable >>Controller shape is shit >It's literally just an Xbox controller split in half you must have baby hands to find slippery soap no grip touch controllers comfortable >>AA battery shit >obviously you would interchange rechargeable batteries dumb fuck, I would much rather go a month without needing to replace them then having to charge my controllers twice a day and making sure each one is up to date and double checking I have no way of unplugging my controllers while updating so they don't become literally bricked you clearly stated you enjoy vive wands more as you play way more with them lmao.
>plugging controllers in every few days as you pack up vs being cucked and having to buy rechargable batteries and chargers and littering your house with that shit no thanks I'd rather buy a system without that shit and enjoy actual real tracking.
Samuel Nelson
>7 days for a response Yeah they're telling you to go fuck yourself. Send it back and request a refund, don't try and get a new one because it will be most likely fucked up too.
Jayden Ortiz
they literally quoted to sit on your data but not using it at this moment, which was maybe a year or so ago. That's corporate speak for "we haven't found anyone to sell it to." Not gonna bother sourcing because I'm not the retard who defends a shitty company.
Yep. Valve is not your friend, not sure why you cucks worship them.
Caleb Miller
>$300 controllers lack basic functionality that literally all $50 controllers have >not an issue guys How does Gabe's cock taste?
John Wilson
>I bought Vive at full price and have to justify it somehow: the post So sad, sweetie!
Michael Scott
>paying $300 for controllers with unclickable sticks Why are Valve drones like this?
Levi Allen
>finally get VR set to work >realize there's nothing worth playing anyways
Hunter Scott
I bought my Vive for 300 bucks this year, though. I wish other forms of tracking were better, but they just aren't. Even lighthouse tech isn't perfect, but it's miles better than all the alternatives. It's a shame, I far prefer the Rift's controllers, but the complete lack of precision just makes them worthless.
Joshua Allen
Return it before the grace period ends.
Nolan Baker
except that we also get tax exemptions out of our asses literally: >do a thing >go to the tax office and tell them that I do something >get some taxes refunded feels pretty great
Jaxson Hill
>go to the tax office and tell them that I do something hows it like living in 1800's >go online >log in >press a few buttons >tax return done in literally 1 minute.
Jeremiah Fisher
Childhood was fighting this poster. Adulthood is realizing he was right all along.
Jeremiah Young
More like Poor Zoomers who browse this site can't afford a VR headset. Whilst the Boomers who do can.
Adam Gray
Boomer here, wouldn't recommend it. Only been using it for virt a mate and boxing for the past year. No real exciting games in the VR space.
Lincoln Cook
VR is the most expensive gaming gimmick that took off after the nintendo switch
I like to personally know the guy that handles my monetary issues also the 1800s were peak fashion as fuck
Ryder Kelly
Wrong, video games are the most expensive gimmick that took off. VR is arguably the smallest niche in the industry.
Hunter Thompson
*tips fedora*
Benjamin James
VR would need more than a single game for anyone to think it "took off".
Jacob Rivera
Valve hates gamers and probably the only reason they made Steam Controller and VR is to mess up with extra inputs. Steam Controller gets shat on Nintendo Pro Controller, but it will be ages before Nintendo is even capable of knocking-off PSVR, so they ended up with Index and no games.
Ethan Roberts
>Steam Controller gets shat on Nintendo Pro Controller
They've been hyped up to infinity, Dev Builds were solid (I know I tried), Valve fucked it up with mass-producing. There was literally no way to know, but I agree, you should know better and NEVER pre-order, especially from Valve.
Asher King
Post your index with timestamp and post ID
Isaac Hill
If it didn't register the button press it would be much worse but it does.
Noah Fisher
I can, FBT, Hotas, Wheel, everything. I still don't recommend it. 2019 was dogshit and it's only getting worse. Imagine if Sony made PS5 for 1000$ without launch titles, but hurr it has backwards compatibility, that's Index - the 'best' thing that happened for VR in 2019. If you're not a sim autist you're buying into an early access meme that looks like it will be stuck in this stage for years, possibly downgrade to Quest levels in near future.
Joshua Hernandez
Switch pro controller is cheaper and better
Chase Long
You have shit taste then im afraid
Carter Turner
no track pad makes it useless at what steam controller does.
Charles White
I paid 200 bucks for my windows mr headset. It's still emerging tech, if you buy the most expensive shit on the market, you've got nobody to blame but yourself. Especially if you're only tipping your toes into the VR thing, when you aren't sure if you even like it. Like buying a Porsche as a first car, cause you've watched top gear.
I mean, I still play daily, I would just not recommend it. If you are into simulators you probably won't need recommendations anyway because you'll get it anyway. The actual VR roomscale games? Those either dead or shit in one way or another, especially if you're not used to indie devs and their meltdowns and one bugfix a year (also introducing extra two)
Joshua Russell
vr is a meme to milk people with too much money, congrats you got milked
Ayden Reed
>t. doesn't own vr but pretends to
Jackson Moore
>maybe just don't use Facebook, fuckwad Facebook literally constructs a "shadow" profile on you even if you don't have an account
Jonathan Wood
Oh yeah, totally. Fuck off and name some games you think are so good that make someone who used this shit headset for two years now reconsider his stance that it's a platform on life-support.
Carson Smith
m'user
Dominic Clark
>implying OP isn't full of shit
Luke Russell
>made a new headset-specific wojack so, facebook or tencent or sony? who is it you work for?
Luke Green
I discovered honey selects VR mode last night. I ended up using it for 3 hours and got to work late this morning. Can't wait to do it again tonight
Henry Green
>Buy Occulus Rift. >Get Beat Saber. >Mod it for custom songs. >Invite normie girls over to try my toy. >Most of them are enamoured by it, use that to get lucky. >Having sex with multiple girls because they're falling for the meme machine.
I would expect this stance on Reddit. Those fuckers would pull this on everyone that complained about SDE issue in 2016. Now, with Index, they all suddenly agree that SDE in older headsets made in barely enjoyable. It's possible to be into something and still not recommend it, despite enjoying it daily. I bet you're one of those faggots that spergs out whenever he sees a review with thumbs down and hundreds of hours on record. I would say 2018 was really good for VR, but 2019 was shit. They keep breaking all the games with shit or no updates, outside of a handful of jank games everything else is dead. Index was shit, I regret I didn't see it coming. Maybe Boneworks will prove to be worth it in the end, but it's not looking good Facebook is the only one pumping money into VR, and they lean towards accessability. Valve has superior tracking, but they seem to have picked up on HTC's customer support habits, and make absolutely zero games. The only Index "exclusive" is a 15 minute outsourced demo.
Michael King
>sabotaged HTC lmao
Hudson Rivera
How hard is it to mod beatsaber?
Mason Collins
my vive shipped with defective controllers too but they still sorta worked and i ended up fixing them myself. most stressful self-repair i ever did knowing the things are 150 a pop. the internal components are just so breakable.
Andrew Stewart
>Index was shit, I regret I didn't see it coming. I don't know how anyone didn't realise this.
I wasn't a big fan of the Vive screen until I upped supersampling, now it's totally fine. Imagine spending 1000 bucks on something that only has 50% more pixels.
The only game of any value in VR remains H3VR, and even that is filled with bugs. Maybe Boneworks will be good, but if it doesn't have mod support (and it won't), it's just one step forward, 2 steps back again.
The only company who could've been good for VR was Valve, but unfortunately they became a children's gambling marketplace a few years back, and they have no interest in developing games anymore.
Dominic Jones
The wands were their design. I mean, HTC could have made their controllers based on Touch, so they're probably equally retarded and should take the blame too.
Jace Flores
It's a free manager that does it all for you. Stupid easy, takes all of 5 minutes.
Nolan Sanchez
The vive wands are a bit delicate, but no more so than any basic phone repair, or even most controllers nowadays because everything uses those ribbon connectors.
Wyatt Carter
Not hard at all, you download an program and it just werks, you can set it up any way you want and download songs in-game. The catch is the devs fuck it up with minor updates so you have to repeat the process every time. They're probably scratching their heads with Sony and Occulus how to remove modding from the equation too, but for now it still works.
Elijah Johnson
SDE on the Vive is fucking awful and I'm glad I sold that shit off in time.
Lucas Roberts
VR sucks
also valve is shit at hardware
it's so annoying having lighthouse sensors installed. any time the power goes out for even a few seconds, they turn on and NEVER turn off. so I have to unplug them and then go through the routine of plugging them back in and syncing when I use it again
Lucas Cook
HTC had no experience with the gaming market, obviously they're going to default to a company that seems to know the marketplace like Valve for decisions like controller design. And then Valve got to fix the issue they made by giving HTC an awful design.
How much experience do you need to look at designs of game controllers over the last 20 years and think that maybe hey we shouldn't reinvent the wheel in the first gen.
Michael Powell
>get sex because you showed some bimbos your VR toy yeah no
Kevin Butler
Man, wait until you find out what kinds of fucked up shit people do in non-virtual reality. I don't think you are ready for that.
Hunter Hall
how did you pay? most credit cards have protections against shit like this which totally negate any type of policy a company thinks they can institute when they really can't because their merchant contracts are fucking bullet proof and the card companies will ass fuck them if they try and not comply or add stipulations that they can't
Connor Jackson
I paid $70 for a Lenovo VR headset that included both controllers. It works well enough. It's not as nice as the $1100 shit, but I have had no issues, it's plug-and-play, and I can play VR games just as well as other people.
Just saying that you fell for the meme, and then you fell for the bad pricing. I'll bet you in 4 months all these issues will be resolved and the headset will cost $600.
Hunter Barnes
I left out the part where I sleep roofies into their drinks when they have VR on. Oopsie!
Kayden Bell
Valve were pretty adamant that nobody would want to use locomotion in VR because of sim sickness. And they probably bragged about their awful steam controller.
Bentley Cooper
get them replaced?
Adam Price
Man I wish Valve burned down like KyoAni already.
Samuel Scott
>Not using the neural link on the toilet What's the matter, Pajeet? Don't want to get run over and gang raped on your designated shitting street?
Alexander Cox
I'm pretty sure DV1 are the controllers they wanted to make and they made thumbsticks shit on purpose out of spite.
actually you left out 3d gaming which with 3d TV's was a thing for a little while
Jaxson Campbell
Bought my vive new on Facebook market for $350. I play every night. Beat sabers modding community is insane and it's way better to watch movies in a virtual theater than on my off color monitor.
That's painful still. No more Dragon Maid Season 2...
Elijah Jackson
>Yeah, make the thumbsticks lock up because of a hardware defect... also make sure the finger tracking is shitty and doesnt work properly when your fingers get a tiny bit damp... screechy triggers? You got that already? Good, make them break after some time too. >Oh, and also... tell Reddit the empty space in the headset is called 'Frunk'. Can't wait for their shitty memes.
James Long
3D gaming didn't take off at all, unless you count the 3DS.
Connor Gray
Normal guy: Bite the bullet. Pay for the shipping. Get a new one maybe? Neutral: see post Scumbag: Flip it on eBay. If the person who bought it complains tell them to fuck off and check their own hardware because IT WORKED PERFECTLY ON MY MACHINE. If they continue complaining then you're going to fight with Paypal for the next year and a half because they always side with the seller.
Hunter Hughes
Fuck off. Your FOTM-trope-filled-lesbian-loli-moe loving kind killed anime for me.
Nolan Williams
>$200 Why did you get the Samsung? The Lenovo/HP/Etc. is decent for the sub-$100 price point.
Hudson Ramirez
>tfw Paypal sided with me once with a scumbag seller.
Jack Johnson
Why'd you get the index instead of the oculus quest or rift s? At least those headsets are confirmed to actually work.
Wyatt Allen
Sorry I got that wrong >If they continue complaining then you're going to fight with Paypal for the next year and a half because they always side with the BUYER
I got my money back after being hosed by some scumbag eBay seller as well. Pretty quickly too, and he didn't fight it. Probably because he knew he was going to lose.
Colton Cook
>Oculus reports that they're literally selling Quest headsets as fast as they can be manufactured hm
Lucas Walker
Stay mad bro, those Dragons were CUTE and had some BOOBS
Crikey mate, watch out, that post is looking pretty fucking BASED
Zachary James
Fake news!
Carson Jenkins
Have you gone so far down the rabbit hole that your coworkers can sense your creepiness yet? asking for a friend
Benjamin Baker
How does it compare to Koikatsu/CM3D2 VR?
Dominic Hall
>letting seasonal anime memes dictate what you like or don't
Sebastian Morgan
>all the digital data was saved from the fire from a concrete surrounded server room >dragon maid season 2 is over yeah it's a shame the director passed but either kyoani can continue after 2-5 years or they'll just give it to someone else
Levi Anderson
i got the valve index yesterday and i'm having a blast with it
there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of really good games, but the ones i've found that i like i really enjoy
vrchat is cool, too
Lucas Hernandez
>he trusted Valve hardware oh I am laffin'
Colton Foster
The honeymoon period will end soon. Then you'll realise there really aren't any games.
Jeremiah Stewart
Boring boomer confirmed. This boomer has enjoyed In Death, Pavlov, Stand Out, A cybernetic, Gorn, Super Hot, Blade and Sorcery, sever tech demos like Plank Experience and Rick and morty along with Fallout 4 Vr, Dreadhalls and Arizona Sunshine. Beatsaber is my go to when I'm bored.
Jason Wood
Depends on what you like. VR handles itself to first person so you get a lot of shooting games or horror experiences. Rhythm games are all over the place.
Nathaniel Collins
I'm European, the Samsung one isn't available here. I got a rebranded Lenovo explorer ~6 months ago. Everything is a bit more expensive here and includes tax too. Rift rarely got close to 300 and vive was always above 500.
Hudson White
beatsaber is still the undisputed king of VR
Xavier Gray
>went for a rift during the dk1 days >got cold feet and refunded before they shipped >months later one arrives anyway >play with it for like a week before I got bored >waited a bit in case they asked for it back >sold it for more than I would have paid >now I know I dont give a shit about VR and will never buy in Thanks oculus!
Brayden Allen
Beat saber is peak zoomer garbage, a rhythm game designed for people who played one guitar hero 15 years ago who have no understanding of the genre at all.
Liam Thomas
If your a normie, if you aren't then Pavlov, Vr Chat, and even Rec Room has more potential than that. Talk about a boring user.
Austin Martin
>VR Chat sure, if you're a queer or a tranny that wants to ERP cause that's your only shot of being a "real" girl
Asher Morris
VR without motion controllers is worthless, though.
I don't really think VR is worth buying in for most people yet, simply because there are no fucking games, but there's a pretty big difference between head tracking and hand tracking.
Carson Edwards
Sure retards do that but more time than not I like to wander around, talk to meme spouting idiots and chill when I'm bored. Some of the animations fuck you up too, shits hilarious. People coming up with new shit almost every day.
Ethan Walker
VRChat is basically just SecondLife in VR. Eventually it will be taken over by the furries as well.
Alexander James
>dk1 days >based his opinion on the fucking DK1 >no room scale >no controllers >absolutely dogshit visuals You have no idea what you're talking about.
Nicholas Fisher
>if only the grafics were better then it wouldn't be a boring gimmick!! Ok user! Sorry about the buyers remorse
Brayden Ortiz
The only real difference is that SL is technically the better game. It's got an in-game editor, you can sell shit to furries, and it just generally has more going on.
I wouldn't want to play either game, but if I was forced to play one, it sure as fuck wouldn't be VRChat.
Nolan Reyes
>ignores everything else about immersion >but muh graphics meme
Christopher Martin
>pavlov shit game with shit dev that hates its fans. Entire game is only popular because of community marketplace and most of the best maps are more social than violent.
It's because the gunplay an interaction is absolute garbage.
Ryan Rodriguez
The joke is there's a VR game made by the Second Life devs but no one but furries probably knows about it. Perhaps that's why they aren't in VRchat
John Gonzalez
Nice LARP, OP. Can't wait to see this thread spammed 4+ times per day.
Austin Bailey
>it will be ages before Nintendo is even capable of knocking-off PSVR Other way around friendo