*runs towards you*

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>Is considered by many to be a worse RL than stock
>Got nerfed anyway
Blackbox has had a rough life

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>is considered fun
>gets nerfed

As a spy, how do I deal with this?
My revolver misses more than it hits and there’s no way I can dodge around a spastic fuck that plays pyro to matador them without dying

W+M1 4 lyfe

>team is so shit that one guy W+M1 pushes their shit in

If you really can't aim just run away.

>As a spy, how do I deal with this?
by not playing spy and using a counter class.

because otherwise you're retarded.
Or at least work with your team, it's called "TEAM fortress 2 "and not "ONE retarded fuck trying to esports like it's speshul limpiks 2".

There’s akways situations where I’m trying to bust a sentry nest or dismantle a push but some pyro is just running everywhere spraying fire and there’s no real way to get away from it
It’s a common obstacle for what I try to do as a spy

Run to midrange out of the flamethrowers range, if he's alone or you got some backup than you can beat him midrange, if not than bolt. Don't use the ambassador, stock revolver is already robust enough to get the job done.

I usually use the Enforcer and the Big Earner because I like to go for chainstabs on an objective
Is that good or bad

>Pyro spraying fire
>I can't get in there as spy
>MAYBE I SHOULD PLAY AS SPY MORE

that pyro's doing god's work.

Excuse me for trying to learn how to deal with a common issue
I’ll just continue being shit and just instantly hit my killbind and switch to soldier every time a problem comes up and just shoot at people’s feet instead of actually trying to improve at the game

Enforcer is trash use stock.

What’s trash about it

there is literally nothing wrong with phlog pyros

They should learn to airblast. They hold themselves back
The real redpill is that there was nothing wrong with Backburner at release

>Hit someones pinkytoe nail with the edge of your explosion radius even though you missed completley
>Lmao heal a bunch anyway
Fuck off, the scaling heal should have been a thing since day 1. Put your fucking crutches away zoomer

*has the highest DPS in the game*

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Not OP but every class has a counter class. Using your logic you should change your class literally every time you come in contact with another class. That's fucking stupid.

Also OP you're just kind of fucked on this one. One thing I can say is (at least with Jarate) it goes away faster if your cloaked so stay cloaked if you can't kill an enemy that's covered you.

Yeah, when he’s right next to you
Good luck getting there

WTF? THATS NOT FAIR!

oh boy

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Is this pre or post op

>FUCKING W+M1 NOOOB, FUCK YOU FAG

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It’s just pyro stuffing their suit for whatever reason
Maybe it’s their idea of a joke

>both teams neck and neck trading one capture point back and forth
>both teams have medics, soldiers, demos, scouts, heavies, engies, snipers, and even a few spies
>I switch to pyro
>match suddenly turns on it's head because now everyone's being hurt at once
>rockets fly backwards
>spies can't get through
>medics being separated from their targets
>medics having to spread their healing too thin to deal with big immediate damage or let people die
>even if I die, the chaos is too much for the enemy team to handle
Pyro takes the most skill

you'd be surprised how many people try and take on a heavy at close range

>mfw people always say this when I grab pyro
>mfw the spies with spyscycles mock me
>mfw they get mad when I kill them
>mfw the spyscycle saves their life, but they're still fucked without their primary weapon
>mfw spies try to shoot me in absence of a backstab and I just shotgun them

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Real talk, why do people say shit like this? or things like "lol bodyshotter" after dying from being dominated.

Is it because they're inherently bad so their self defense kicks in to try and guilt trip other players into giving them a chance?

or are they just trying to change the other player's tactics or give themselves some time by forcing a window of time for them to react?

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They’re annoyed they died and deal with it by throwing out a quick insult
They don’t mean anything by it unless they take the game way too seriously, they’re just dealing with their emotions

it should be easy to kill a pyro running straight towards you as a sniper
but I always get anxious when they're close and spurting flames which makes me miss and die
how do I deal with this?

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I remember when I was staying at my friends. He had to do a shift at work and told me to stick around until he she got home and saw she had TF2 installed and had FemPyro, FemScout and FemMedic modded into it. This was before Valve Servers disabled the mods.

I brought it up to her and instantly got kicked out.

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*walks backwards and shoots*

>He had to do a shift
>stick around until he she got home
>saw she had

What fucking gender is your friend user

They sound sad and pathetic and probably should stop playing TF2 all together.

You switch to your secondary and pray

>competitive fags still trying to convince Valve to balance around 6v6
Maybe if it was Highlander fags I would be more inclined to understand, even if I would still disagree, but holy shit are 6s-fags such an annoying sector of the competitive community

>Blocks your path

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>+20 hp
>heal a bunch

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he means pre-nerf.
stay based, retard.

Its just dumb kids or manchildren getting mad.

youtu.be/fwOzxCdZiOc
>bans Short Circuit cause it made pushing last boring
>6v6-fags calling anything boring
It's like they can't see that theyre the Melee-fags of TF2.

What the eff???

This game is full kids and manchildren??

Ewww.

*uninstalls tf2*

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you'd be surprised how many heavies can't track at close range

I'm surprised how you haven't noticed this until now.

You'd be surprised how many heavies are at close range.

>play medic
>call out on voice that there's a pyro chasing me
>there are 3 players on my team next to me
>none of them notice Carlos.Rodriguez.2010 holding W and M1 at me
>die
>get called a tryhard for asking for help

I don't even know why I play this game.

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*types in chat "W+M1"*

Pyro is unironically the patrician's choice

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Why does Valve hate the Heavy so much?

>haven't played tf2 in years
>start playing it
>kill someone
>"DUDE WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM"
>?
>"I CROUCHED AT YOU"
>???
>"THAT MEANS I'M FRIENDLY YOU FUCKING TRYHARD"
I don't think I've ever played another game where so many people got upset at you for actually playing

Play fortnite just as autistic

>cleaver to the face
>1 (one) scattergun shot

Today I was CALMLY explaining why this team was struggling to push (too many pyros and support classes, no classes that I can properly uber and no explosive classes to kill buildings) and some guy just goes on mic and straight-up YELLS "JUST SHUT UP AND PLAY COMPETITIVE!"

I have been kicked so many times for shit like this it's unreal to me. I've never seen a community more anti-winning than TF2.

>dominate somebody
>they spend the rest of game complaining about you in chat
>haven't even said anything all match

Reminder that salty soldier mains bitched and moaned about Pyro combos until valve made w+m1 the only semi-viable Pyro playstyle.

kill them and then schadenfreude (lenny bind for increased effect) it gets their fucking salt mines flowing like crazy
also if you have #KeepRandomCrits in your name you're based

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>that guy that posts his bind for every time he dies to a random crit

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>mfw spies that try to dead ring when I have a backburner

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>using the backburner

Make the flamethrower an LG.
BOOM I fixed Pyro.
Not only does this solve the situation of shitters gravitating towards him but it also helps skilled players who can aim and don't want to flail around like a retard spewing flames.

>guy has 7 HP
>crit finishes him off
>RANDOM CRITS ARE FAIR AND BALANCED

But Pyro is supposed to be a disruptive class with a large AOE cone.

>That guy who who does this or for when he kills another person with a crit
We get it, you don't like your wacky and unpredictable shooter to be wacky and unpredictable.

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>Blinds you with flames
Fuck this class

>not using the one item thats perfect for flanking, the one thing a pyro is supposed to do

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>"We at Valve apologize on behalf of that random crit xDDD"

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>get licked by enemy pyro's flame
>melt instantly
>concentrate fire when playing pyro
>20 years until enemy dies
wtf

I just want a LG in TF2

>W+M1
I never understood this, thats how you literally play a shooter

I've seen too many pyros who beef absolutely GUARANTEED kills because they want to avoid looking like a "noob."

Do anything it takes to win, and you'll win.

spycicle
if you get a failed attempt, cloak and run to a safe location to try again. if you succeed you're doing exactly what you sought out to do in the first place.
use the default revolver if you're bad at landing headshots and can slip away well. otherwise l'etranger and be a puss. alternatively run the diamondback if you can succeed in getting kills/downing an engie nest but can't outrun the pyro's flames.
never use the C&D or DR, they make you wait around too long. you need to be relentless but cautious. keep tabs on the pyro and find a downtime where he isn't near your target
speaking of targets, p r i o r a t i z e. going after a nobody instead of a succulent engie, sniper, or M&H brojob combo is dumb when literally any kill will alert their pyro.
if all else fails, stay the fuck back supporting with your revolver or switch classes. you're more useful doing damage than wasting time and flanking only to get killed and continuously throw shit at the wall and seeing if something sticks
t. Spy "main"

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>never use the C&D or DR
This. All C&D spies do is wait in one spot for the whole round, literally doing nothing useful. Be proactive.

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You can see his health as a spy. If he's low health or far away enough, you can shoot him. An easy trick to remember is that the first shot is always accurate, meaning you can shot once, time the reload and shoot again for maximum accuracy.

Some newer players seem to lack depth perception so they'll run across the map holding m1 as pyro thinking that they're doing damage. That's when you can safely say that it's wm1.
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wouldn't it be a funny joke if he performed sexual favors on the other classes and pretended to be a girl haha

When I was in highschool I had a bind that was essentially "you mad" for everytime I killed someone, or won a duel

sure, but most players call you w+m1 literally any time you use the flamethrower

Oh yeah, I know.
>As Pyro
>Ambush a soldier after carefully planning where he was going
>Puff with the flamethrower, flare to the face, back to flamethrower, airblast his rocket back at him, dodge a second rocket as I get closer, finish with the axe
>"Fucking wm1"
You just have to ignore them. These are people who have to find excuses when they're killed by better players.

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The best thing you can do is trying to bait the pyro in a 1v1 far enough from his teammates.But be careful,because even if the pyro will try anything to kill you,they'll not fall for an obvious bait(i.e. leading them near stairs).
Also,if they have any kind of flare and are good with them,you could need the help of a teammate to kill him,or at least fight him near water
Good luck t.Pyro main

A good Pyro is a sight to behold.

>Do anything it takes to win, and you'll win.
You are a true shinobi.

Honestly, they're not that rare. They might not be god tier or anything, sometimes will ignore burning teammates, but it's rare for me to find a pyro that really is too retarded to live.

I'm talking about Pyros that homewreck sappers, protect sentry nests from rockets and demos, airblast rockets as a rule, scorch shot and disrupt enemy groups and snipers, spy check like crazy and generally just make an outsized impact on the course of the match despite barely pumping out any damage.

Fighting a team with a pyro like that can be hell. They singlehandely can push back an entire team. Never seem to die, always seem like they're everywhere at the same time. It's only against pyro's like that that I understand why some people hate pyro.

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How do I have fun playing wrench Engie?

>Übercharges Heavy

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>enemy team goes full heavy and two pocket medics

>My team is all medic with just one heavy
>We win

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post pyros

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>Some newer players seem to lack depth perception so they'll run across the map holding m1 as pyro thinking that they're doing damage
It's more that they realize that it's an effective strategy relative to their performance playing other classes. Not only is it easy to do, but most other players are also n00bs who can't kill a guy running straight at them.

>enter a game
>go medic
>there's nobody decent to heal

>is
>gets nerfed

>avoid a scout trying to ambush me
>swing flamethrower to hit him but just fail short too often to do any significant damage
>switch to melee and hit him
>he's a lot more erratic and desperate to try and land a hit with his scattergun so he's probably low on health
>pull flamethrower and set him on a fire one finale time
>"W+M1"

>was perfect
>gets buffed for no reason
>people complain
>nerfed to being complete borderline unusable shit

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Bait them, And try not to get ambushed yourself. A pyro will almost always buttrush a spy, so just fuck with them from a distance so you control the battle. Either keep them distracted and make a getaway, sending him on a chase in the backlines away from the actual fights, where you now are, Or keep far far away and pick them off with the revolver. I've hardly ever managed to avoid pyros up close, so the best you can do is initiate yourself

>kill someone with a crit in a close match
>use killbind
i like to think it makes them feel at least a bit better
probably not though

>people bitching about the economy
>meanwhile game breaking stuff like spy cl_interp runs rampant
wtf

They get mad that the ''noskill'' class manages to outplay them.

In my experience it's ususally the pubstar soldiers who complain.

>kill with flamethrower
>w+m1
>kill with flare
>flare whore
>kill with melee
>combo whore
>kill with shotgun
>tryhard

It's what makes playing pyro hilarious really.

>huntsman going for cheap shots in the turbine vents
>walk up and reflect arrow back into his stupid face
>"lol lucky"

back when i still played i noticed how much spies under estimate running away
every moment an enemy takes chasing after you is a moment they aren't playing the objective
if you run into a pyro just run around a corner and double back after cloaking
obligatory joke about running away as a french person

I hate Sniper so much. Fucking overpowered cunt class.

TF2 is fucking broken and needs a gameplay overhaul.
I hate it so much it has way too many op mechanics that are impossible to learn and some classes are outright broken op like Spy

>BANG BANG

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>random crit
>ragdoll reaches escape velocity

i named my flamethrower w+m1 = u mad :)

>try to use this
>follow up shot just grazes them while they're being pushed to safety

>Pushed to “safety”
>Pull out the pistol and bust a cap

That's the point. Black box was for soldiers that don't want a pocket medic. It was also balanced because 3 shots couldn't take out a sentry nest so a medic had no reason to pocket a BB soldier.

>misses every shot even though your crosshair is on target

why does valve nerf all my favorite fun things

>sandman
>air strike
>parachute
>escape plan

Does portugal even have arms factory

people don't like stuns
that's all i have
meat knife critz when it mini critz when?

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Remove the Phlog from the game. Fucking stupid weapon.

>reinstall because of the economy crash
>got 5 games with obvious aimbotters in a row and the other team wont kick them
>all of those aimbotter's accounts have been VACed at one point
>some even a week or so ago
whats the fucking point of that shitty system if it literally doesnt matter if they get VACed?

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Just play on community server bro

sick of friendly pyros not airblasting fire off you huh?

Why do people complain about bodyshots as sniper
A hit is still a hit

>want to play tf2
>remind myself that i have a better shot at running saints row 2 at full speed than this polemic shit

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For real though, I don't understand the purpose of this weapon. 99% of the time it would be better to just have follow up shots.

because you can't aim lol

what community servers?
they're all 24/7 instant respawn 2fort or idle servers still, and the ones that run stock maps with no special bullshit are dead most of the time or just filled with bots

It’s fun

My head canon for scout is that he's an old, canadian handyman of dubious skill ala Red Green

He's not crazy, just senile

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I mostly just find it frustrating

>scout
FUCK meant pyro

How do I Engie? People bum rush me while I'm setting up the nest and I end up having to switch to contribute to team.

I was aware of that lol
*dabs*

Remember that your role as a Spy is to disrupt the enemy team. If you can lead the Pyro on a wild goose chase you're doing good.

Spy is shit dude lmao learn to play

Don't people say it's not that bad due to ignoring protection?

I'm personally too fond of killing people with l'etranger

engi is not the front line
he is the back line
the bubble is the sentrys range
jag>anything else for speed

>be gud at TF2
>run at pyros as scout
>jump over them and meatshot them 3 times

Feels good to instill fear in these fucks

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No he isn't. He can turn invisible and instakill people. Completely broken.
TF2 needs fixing, and this is how you fix it:
I know how to fix TF2:
>Only 6v6 games in matchmaking
>Turn off random crits
>No duplicate classes in matchmaking
>Heavy has to reload his minigun
>Everyone gets infinite ammo
>Only payload, koth and attack/defense as matchmaking modes
>Remove trading
>Add competitive rewards so more people play it
>Engineers turret upgrades automatically to lvl 2, but deals less damage
>Dispenser and tele removed
>Spy has infinite cloak and cannot instakill backstab anymore, his main damage is now his revolver
>Rocketjump gets dedicated button and doesn't do damage. It has a cooldown
>Stickyjump gets a dedicated button and doesn't do damage to yourself. It has a cooldown
>You get removed from game if you afk more than 30 secods
>Crouch jump gets removed
>Scout's doublejump gets removed
>Bonk! has a dedicated button with a cooldown
>Jarate has a dedicated button with a cooldown
>Jetpack has a dedicated button with a cooldown
>Every class has only one weapon, melee weapons have been turned into quick-melees which have their own dedicated button
>Air strafing gets removed
>B-hop gets removed
>Every 4-6 months a new class is introduced that completely breaks the meta for 1-12 months

>Only 6v6 games in matchmaking
kys this is not overwtach

>Enemy Heavy spots me in their base in Turbine
>Hide in the vent
>the guy starts shooting at it from the entrance, but doesn't get in
>after a bit gets tired and goes to the middle ground for a push
>backstab
He's a funny man.

fuck off b4nny

Play a real class instead of spy

>>Turn off random crits
also kys and stop crying it was worse when it was at 10%, how would u cope fgt

>Heavy has to reload his minigun
kys seriously.

>Spy has infinite cloak and cannot instakill backstab anymore, his main damage is now his revolver
kys

voice comms in pubs is one of the most autistic things you can do, well deserved

>>Every class has only one weapon, melee weapons have been turned into quick-melees which have their own dedicated button
don't touch my or anyones wifu stick

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Spy is the patrician's choice. It takes the most skill now that everyone knows all the tricks.

>>Scout's doublejump gets removed
hey that would be nice

>>Scout's doublejump gets removed
>>Bonk! has a dedicated button with a cooldown
>>Jarate has a dedicated button with a cooldown
>>Jetpack has a dedicated button with a cooldown
just no, this is not overwatch

how do I stop getting motherfucking backstabbed as heavy

>Had a bind that said "No scope nadies for the ladies"
>Didn't spam it, just an occasional bind press
>Anally annihilated kids always told me it didn't makes sense since nades don't use scopes.
>Told them thats the joke.
>Next five minutes is them raging and telling me how dumb I am.

Every time, never got old.

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>random crit
>taunt
>type git gud

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shit taste

>>Every 4-6 months a new class is introduced that completely breaks the meta for 1-12 months
you clearly don't like tf2 so just play overwatch.

don't be shy post yours.

autism

/tf2g/ raids /owg/ too often already

>spray a bit at Pyro with Syringe gun
>dies
???

Overwatch is better and has diversity unlike ToxicFortress 2. TF2 has only one black character and he is quite problematic.

You people are retarded if you don't realize he's describing overwatch

>black character and he is quite problematic.
calling black people problematic? u racist?

How do I CnD? The cloak ends really fast if I run or jump.

cringe bait

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Do you have autism? It's a joke, he's literally describing Overwatch

can you niggers get more autistic? taking the most obvious bait i have ever seen in my life

>Roll booty burner
>Take note of where enemy is gathered, impossible to get near from the front.
>Navigate around map, listening for enemies, dodging past or taking down the occasional enemy.
>Minute or so later, I'm behind entire enemy team.
>Roast them from behind, wipe entire enemy team without even needing an uber to survive thanks to careful maneuvering and forward thinking.
>Butt blastered enemy all calling me a b.b w+m1 noob.

Listen mate, it's not my fault you were so clueless that you never noticed the mumbling ball of fire manage to flank your entire team.

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same fag btfo

100% a troll

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He is pictured as a drunk and stupid. I think that is quite problematic as everyone else is pictured smart and civilized in TF2

Shut up! SHUT UP SHUT UP YOU ARE BEING TOXIC!

For me, it's the Air Strike.

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>making a push with our team in Turbine to cap the int
>everyone in the team dies but us, three medics
>we stand at the door to the int location in confusion, overhealing each other
What are you supposed to do in this situation?
Tbh it's bizarre how everyone died despite three meds being there.

u sayin niggers look uncivilised? u racist?

daily reminder that there is literally zero counterplay to a good sniper

>he doesn't play C&D spy and focuses on 1 specific player to get them salty

No, but TF2 depicts Demoman as stupid and uncivilized which is racist. I do not understand how they got away with it. They should take notes from OW and make non-racist black characters like Doomfist.

kek, I love that this shit still get sincere (you)'s despite being posted every tf2 thread

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But I'm not going to build a nest at base or two points back when we're defending the payload.
I try to pick good spots but getting to the place and deploying everything takes too long and setup ends.

Turn around, fatty.

I only play Scottish Resistance Demo on RED and Loch 'n' Load Demo on BLU. Do I have autism?

yes, because you aren't using the Loose Cannon

call for medic to block headshots with your hand hitbox

that only happens when you upgrade your telly/waste time upgrading someone else's
the every one but medics and switch off for a sec to upgrade the tellys
try learning where the ammo/metal is

But Demo is a good lad, he works three jobs to maintain his mother.

nice bait

Daily reminder that Badwater is a shit map

>and
can*

What classes should I prioritize for Über?
I go Heavy > Pyro > Demo as available as Demo is the most maneuverable and Soldier just fucks off with his rocket jumps.

youtu.be/0fCpAuxrQ_I?t=68

Reminder that Scout is unironically Jesus H. Christ.

Friendly reminder that I still like Badwater

yeah
floodwater is a better map

2fort is the worst map

>spycheck once every few seconds
>kill this one spy a bunch of times
>"WOW SOMEONE IS PARANOID"

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every time I play BLU is sniper/spy and RED is kritz demo

Am I doing wrong in setting and levelling the dispenser first to get metal quickly?

>in silent area
>hear footsteps
>shoot and kill invisible spy
>"CHEATER"

lets hear what your favorite map is

>chase down a spy
>he walks up some stairs and does a jump in midair
>stare at him like the fucking idiot he is
>airblast him into a corner and kill him

all payload maps are bad due to being linear as shit

O MY PARTICLE WEAPON

no but you shouldn't use it as your main supply of metal, remember ammo crates are for engi's everyone else gets the dispenser

>it's a copypasta
damn i was hoping i saw something fresh

sniper

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So is it true that tf2's graphics keep getting downgraded the more bloatware it gets? I had a shitty PC back in 2012 but I remember TF2 looking nicer

That can be summed up as bum-rushing. There is no meticulous planning, you saw enemies and you torched them. W+M1 with the crutch burner

Spy

ubersaw infinite uber combo

Counter feel:
>Cloak and Dagger into base and start spamming engineer voicelines
>Entire base spends 15 minutes searching just for you and ends up dying/losing the match in the process

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>you are not useful if you keep flanking and dying
You can make the opposing team paranoid which in itself helps immensely, they'll waste time spychecking everyone.
Sometimes getting C&D, going around snipers and spamming the spy line will prompt them into spamming jarate and melee everywhere for several minutes, which is immensely better than just killing them
Of course this only works in pubs.

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So...the way to fix TF2 is for it to become Overwatch?

fuck bodyshooters though

>fight high ping demoknight
>do barely any damage because he's far away on my screen
>die because he's right next to me on his
wtf valvtendo

YES
THAT IS THE JOKE

You avoid pyros unless it's absolutely necessary to attack them.
You see this Pyro with his back turned you think to yourself i am going to stab him, but knowing the nature of the Pyro chances are he will turn around at the last second and burn you alive.
I have a no-fuck policy with pyros

No memes, use the enforcer. Its slower fire rate means that the spread is lessened. I took the enforcer pill and haven't looked back after they castrated amby. Fuck razorback faggots I'm still gonna murder you for playing that bitchboy class.

100% fact
though its not enough since the game still runs like ass out of the box and im certain its just the two people working on the game either being lazy shits or they just dont have enough manpower to take on a major optimization overhaul of tf2 since everyone's working on VR and dotashit

give heavy a razorback

>*dies*
I fucking hate pyros

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I do this too

Enforcer is fine now for its niche. Which is shitting on razorbad snipers that are such trashcans they need a tool to have their soft counter neutered.
Goddamn do I hate faggot snipers in this game. If they all made like a tree and killed themselves tomorrow the game and the very world itself would improve for the better.

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>tfw you wanna make an anti sniper weapon but its a no bc every one wears a hat

Literally just run away. The pyro was made to counter the spy so there just isn’t a way to tackle one other than to just avoid them at all costs. The spy is so weak that he really isn’t meant to get hit by anything anyways, so your best bet is to play as carefully as possible with the spy.

Some dude kept trying to convince the entire server that I was cheating once.
Kept posting some fucking false positive or made up warning from a cheat detection software he claimed to be running.
I was playing scout and he kept claiming I used some fucking flick/accel mod or whatever.

life of a spy

>run around in the backlines doing nothing
>go in
>get one stab, probably not on a medic because you fucking suck
>die
>lose
>valve gives you 2 points for every kill so you don't cry and uninstall

>points meaning anything

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Biggest problem for this goddamn weapon. I love double barrels in every single game I play, but FaN outside of ctf_turbine is a pile of shit since the following shot doesn't do much damage and the first shot blows them away to distance and far far away from you. Unironically would be better if it had no knockback.

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points are a direct representation of your usefulness

>picking up Dustbowl contract
>"Defend the control point"
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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Are stickyjumpers and rocket jumpers the speedrunners of tf2?
youtube.com/watch?v=f8cMxLrbytA

>there is nothing wrong with encouraging WM1
utter retard

That’s only as YOUR spy. My spy is top scoring.

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Make knockback work on ubers

>someone tried that on a server and I got the one miracle flanking crit on the heavy with the third degree
>mfw 6 medic kills at once as the heavy turns around and instantly deletes me

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your spy is "top scoring" because valve inflates your points

retards like to brag and act like they're the best player on the team
then you point out that spy gets 2 points per stab and you're only 5 points behind having played soldier all game

You can use the Soda Popper then

It also lags down a ton. Fuck Valve and Jewben

>enemy team has 3 medic soldier/demoman pairs
thanks i didnt want to play anyway

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Eh, I hate how it looks and I hate the dumb ass hype meter. I just want a straight up forward BANG BANG double barrel with nothing more to it. Wish the FaN would keep the triple jump but remove enemy knockback.

>Decide to gitgud in TF2 unironically for lulz
>Play all classes default loadout
>Shit on people as soldier by shooting directs
>Actually learn how to charge shots as scout
>Direct pipe people into the next dimension as demo
>Join a team in plat

life's good

Dont forget it was +15 per person hit it just told you 15

TF2 would be better without Snipers and Spies. Fuck instant kills. Incredibly unsatisfying.

Mine is top scoring regardless of inflation. I’m that high up. Keep crying heavyfag/engiefag

>Portugal
>Spanish bullfighter

>Actually learn how to charge shots as scout
As someone who hardly plays scout, what does this mean?

Speak for yourself, backstabs are the most satisfying things to land in the game.

>Mine is top scoring regardless of inflation. I’m that high up.

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>get close by running in at the last second
>massively more damage
>hit 108s
>laugh

>revolver misses
What's with spy mains and whining about the revolver? Is it because of the ambassador?
It gets the very same spread pistol and smg get. and it has the very same PERFECT ACCURACY AS LONG AS YOU WAIT 0.8 SEC between shots. Are people that play spy incapable of remembering that simple fact? Why do you never see scouts complaining about 'muh peestol not work'?

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"No aim no brain thats how you know a pyro main!!" - tawkSIK, the 200 hour australium Black Box-Conch high tier unusual soldier main that couldn't hit an enemy to save his life but survives on splash damage and constant self heals

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9 retards actually fell for this joke. its not even bait, its just a plain old joke. this is the tf2 / ow version of the old post with the dark souls pic where the guy was actually complaining about skyrim the whole time. this board is unironically filled with retards.

>backstab
who needs that shit when facestabs exist lmao

Haven't played in a while, what's with the influx of Russian subhumans playing? There weren't that much back in 2014

>gets top scoring off of sapping teleporters and running away and getting 1337 ambassador bodyshots off of jose.hernandez2007 while he cant figure out how to move
dam i wish i could be an epic gamer like you user

now take down a sentry by running around it
it's possible

t. Russian

Thats because that's exactly what you are you low tier fucking virgin faggot LMAO. If you dont want to get your feefees hurt for being an inbred retard who's bad at videogames maybe you shouldnt use weapons on a class specifically designed to let room temperature IQ kids with down syndrome to get kills, capishe? ya dumb fucking faggot LMAO fuck outta my fuckin face kid "WTF NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT CALL ME A WM1 EVEN THOUGH I JUST GOT A KILL BY HOLDING DOWN THOSE EXACT 2 BUTTONS WITHOUT AIMING OR DOING ANYTHING SKILLFUL!!" ROFL!. Get good kid.

sniper: yes, whoever thought a dedicated long range instakill class in a game where everyone is specialized to close to mid range is retarded, snipers drag the game down for everyone else

spy: no, they're not hard to take care of if you have a brain but they keep you on your toes

yeah the problem is getting close to those fuckers
running around heavies is much more fun and safer

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>join late
>deal more damage than everyone else in the server

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>not jumping on top of it
casual

>Kill someone
>Z2

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

FUCK DUSTBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWL

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

nerf quickscoping

nerf it

>deals 40,000 damage in one match
>but gets 2 kills because he can't follow through
Epic gamer moment

fucking news on this hat fiasco WHEN

Time to TRICKSTAB this pyro

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Why do the heavy and medic not have any class specific domination lines?

i get all the kills

>Abusing cl interp as spy
YIKES

>game with lots of mechanics that make you harder to hit or literally invincible
>please let me get around this one thing in the game!!!!

the story of almost every nerf in this game honestly

>tfw 10k dmg with sub 20 kills demo
how do i get gud at finishing up people

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>abusing cl_interp
>equip kunai/spycicle, l'etranger/ambassador, and deadringer
>dress like
>join pub
yep, it's gamer time

seething sniperfag

don't just spam to delay people if it doesn't help, wait and ambush or just direct pipe and don't be bad

How 2 fly as demonstration man?

>gets posted damn near every TF2 thread
>anons still fall for it
absolute madness

>play casual
>top score and top frag each game with fucking meme loadouts
>least amount of kills i get in a game is 30
>meanwhile everyone else is either sub 20 or 10
how?

but it actually takes (and rewards) skill

sHoOt YoUrE FeEt lOl

youtube.com/watch?v=pZwMPmJq0_M

>Cheat death mechanics in a fps
>forcing every spy kill to be a boring 'welp time to walk to the nearest ammopack' minigame
>perfect

Yeah, no. glad that thing's in the trash, it far outstayed it's welcome

you're taking fat dumps on actual children
try to play more competitively or find some tf2 teams and apply

You must be 18 years old to post on 4channel

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you must have at least 400 hr on tf2 to post about it here

when i played tf2 12 years ago, i had a bind that said "noob class down" every time i got a kill

you and about 100,000 other teenagers

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It should heal like 15 % of your rocket's damage instead of giving 15 hp

>tfw I got over 3k hours in TF2 and I still play like an amateur

Why are cases worth more if the items are worth less?

>playing comp

Because the case has a chance of giving you a high value item.

t. average Yea Forums user

Keep seething

if the comp mode wasn't actual dogshit i'd play there.
in terms of playing comp with an actual team, i'd really only want to do that with friends.

you know nothing about this video game, whore
stop talking to me

Seethe harder. Keep loosing

WHAT went wrong?

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>get so good all the people are actually fun and smart
oh wow, it's like actually being good and putting effort into things makes you surrounded by people who aren't retards

>bind FURRY DOWN
>spam it every time I kill a furry
>he always fucking leaves after I dominate

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lol

Every Nerf since Tough Shit in a Greentext

increased spread

C&D Is great for gathering Intel though, constantly feeding information to your teammates about everything the enemy team is doing.

Why do TF2 players love jojo so much? How do the two even remotely correlate with eachother?

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nope, just you

>let's nerf bonk after years of being the gold standard of an unlock, that no one ever whined about
you wonder sometimes what the 2 devs left are thinking

Tf2 is a shitty game with poor registration

I really wonder what complaints the team even got about Bonk
>This one time I was an Engineer and a Scout was useless half the game by Bonking behind the team and destroying my teleporters, please fix this, bye

>be a spy
>stab a medic and his pocket
>Pyro chases me
>end up on a rooftop and Soldier trades missiles with me
>he ends up dying to l'etranger
What was he even doing?

i am going to load tf2 to trimp

Pyros are the reason why I always use a spycycle when I play as a Spy.

I haven't played in years for any consistent period of time because i was fed up with the amount of downgrades the base game received in quality, the poor optimization, death of community servers, UI overhaul, and of course as the cherry on the top the nonsensical idea of nerfing every item into oblivion to please Reddit's obsession with E-Sports autism. I joined to play for a moment during Jungle Inferno, but i didn't find anything that made me want to keep playing. I just joined for the occasion and to see what's up.

Real Talk, Gun Mettle was the last majority 'good' large scale addition of content into the game. Tough Shit basically undid all the changes to the items from the previous update, added more downgrades, and then Meet Your Rage broke everything.

Is there still any point towards launching a game and playing on Metalworks, Hydro, or even Upward? Is it still even playable?

and how do I rocket jump as black man?

Wait, they nerfed the fucking BONK?! THE FUCKING BONK?!
??????

The life of an engineer is so boring
>go to intelligence spawn
>set up sentry and dispenser
>level them up
>rot away all match because no one comes, and when they do they're insta gibbed by the sentry

>Literally one pixel away from getting within backstab range of a Medic
>Some paranoid Pyro who was flaming all over the place hits one particle of fire on you
>Can't backstab anyone now, time to just run away or get killed like a retard
This shit has happened far too many times. I don't trust that knife anymore if I'm playing aggressive.

Playing Spy to get backstabs is the worst way to play him. His actual purpose is to sap an engineer nest to give your team a brief window to come in and clear it all.

Upward is one of the most popular payload maps.
Metalworks is average. If a team steamrolls you'll quickly find yourself on a different map.
Hydro has almost no players but you can queue for it while playing on another map so you're not waiting in the main menu forever.

you forgot
>then the rest of the team comes and undoes all your progress

Playing Engineer isn't the same as it used to be for some reason, it always feels like a liability

>want to play some good ole' tf2
>Team is a bunch of friendlyniggers
>Motivation to play drops to 0

Damage dealt to you while bonked gets applied as a temporary slow down after bonk runs out. So the more damage you take while bonked the longer you'll be slowed afterwards.

>friendlys start doing conga or square dancing
>switch to spy and backstab them for achievement

Horribly wrong. Getting backstabs is integral with Spy because it is what allows your team to push in the first place if you are killing the targets that matter. A Heavy, a Medic, a Sniper or an Engie getting deleted without your team wasting time or health to kill them is what allows your team to get properly set up to push on the sentry in the first place. Then you sap once your backstabs have given your team the room to make use of it. It's all about knowing where your team is and what targets you need to take out at any given moment, Engie buildings just being one of them.

The bonk nerf was probably the worst nerf next to the sandman. Meanwhile Spy is fucking useless because of all the Pyro buffs and all the Spy nerfs.

The pistol is clearly a spray and pray weapon, 12 rapid-fire shots that recharge in a flash.

>want to have the classic TF2 experience again and stick around for a long match, doing a bunch of retarded things like it's a sandbox as i used to
>can't do much with items other than stock because they were all nerfed
>can't use sticky jumper, base jumper, headtaker or waraxe combo on upward, the epitome of fun because they nerfed the base jumper for no reason and changed the sounds/models of the sticky and rocket jumper for no reason
>every match is either a steamroll with teams consisting of retards on each team with two gods at the top that destroy everything
>no social cohesion present whatsoever
>boring, generic atmosphere devoid of character, full of tradefag tryhards
>can't keep a consisting, smooth framerate because the optimisation is shit
AAAAAAAAAA

>Enemy team sees this
>Pretend to also be friendly while actually capturing the objective and killing those who see through them
>Team votekicks those who are le tryhards
>Lose

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daily reminder to kick blatant tradefags engaging in pubstomping on sight

GET GOOD GET LMAOBOX

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>tfw ricocheting a pipe off a wall and into a hallway and hear a loud clang
Demo is a beautiful bastard.

I've experienced this. The despair is incredible

>I know how to fix TF2:

Posts a list of retarded shit that makes it worse.

KYS

>As a spy, how do I deal with this?

you can't. an attentive pyro will shit on the best of spy mains all the time.

Not since the 90's

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Tell me about relaying Intel to the team. How do you give information quickly and efficiently?

holy shit I remember like two or three years ago the pubs with a random cheater and spamming lmaobox, good times, simpler times

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anytime I get backstabbed now I just say "cl_interp is bannable" and then watch the children seethe

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"Work" was the surgery center user.

What about backstabbing someone far from him to draw the Pyro there?

youtube.com/watch?v=w1W5DU4zmAA

Is the game even worth saving at this point? Or playing? Why have Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike suffered such a major downgrade in shader quality and performance in the past 4 years?

Its still a thing

But deals less damage than revolver. Your point? I got it wrong, the delay is actually 1.25 s but still. It's even more important as a spy to remember this delay.
Don't just hold m1 like a retarded pyro and your aim will miraculously improve.

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Valve wanted to make the game run on shit pc's.
It works tf2 can run on the atomic pi at 60 fps.
But it fucks over everyone other than 3rd world

>going to intelligence spawn
>not building a level 2 to redeploy quickly on the frontlines and see niggas drop
>not supporting your team by placing a dispenser behind a corner
>not placing a sneaky teleport on the enemy base
you're playing it wrong

They literally made the game run worse as time goes on with these supposed 'optimizations'. I could easily run the game on the highest settings at hundreds of frames per second with maps such as Upward on a 300$ laptop from 2011. I can barely pull off 40 on the lowest settings now.

>its another episode of melee thwack sounds being played but no damage being delt
how the fuck do people play demoknight and not lose their minds with this shitty hit reg

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You have to disable cosmetics and ragdolls.
Showing ragdolls is over 20% of the performance goes to

>Your point?
More shots mean less accuracy is punished less.

I can't even maintain a consistent framerate anymore on medium settings with a Sandy Bridge i5 with Integrated Graphics on most maps, not even talking about the action. Also, the broken animations are INEXCUSABLE.
Since when did ragdolls suddenly become a problem?

>Game drops to fucking unplayable fps episode
Really starting to hate this arc

>play as spy
>disguise as enemy engineer, sit in nest and don’t destroy anything
>team yells at you to sap the sentries
>”I’m deep undercover”

>be in spawn
>120 fps
>walk into teamfight
>40 fps
>pyro uses xher plog infront of me
>20 fps
aaAA

Why is it so good?
>can hit from long distances
>unlike flare gun and detonator, it's easy to hit things
>can hit multiple targets and even the same target twice
>minicrits burning players

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>Those manhips
oh nonono

>You have to disable cosmetics and ragdolls.
This just sent me back to the fucking past where I had to put in a bunch of console commands to make my game more optimised.
Fuck man, wish I still had those console commands on a notepad; the only one I can remember is "mat_phong 0" now.

he's not dumb just drunk.
he's a good demoman he is discussing it with you

They take too much of the cpu and gpu to process. I'm not even joking it's awful. Just disable it and it will run 20% better

it's good because it bounces people around and annoys them

I still use the flare gun because that's the only projectile weapon I'm good with. Suddenly everyone uses the scorch shot for some reason.

You forgot
>Can flarejump, although not as effectively as with a Detonator

Tf2 also depicts the demoman and his parents (also demomen) as hardworking, having 30ish different jobs

scorch shot requires minimum aim

sv_pure 1 is a crime against humanity

Who /capture the flag and king of the hill/ exclusively here?

demoman is actually pretty knowledgable about his job and explosives, he just happens to be an alcoholic

same

I know this is bait but Tavish Finnegan DeGroot is one of best black characters in vidya

Don’t have to aim

I wish comp played more than just 5 cp and some koth
I also with CTF wasnt dogshit

The good players in your team that acknowledge you are there and I don't mean it for pride's sake. The uber will fail if he just runs in with no regards to you.
Any heavy class is fine.

>Read this post while playing KOTH Lazarus
>Play youtu.be/DZz3y6r-5H8
>Storm with a stock flamethrower and scorch shot
>Kill the entire team there
>Smug unusual dead ringer spies are seething and calling me w+m1
>"Kill 5 people in one Life" contract goes from 0 to 4

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its the rocket launcher for the pyro if it took even less skill to use but traded killing power for just pissing everyone off

he's good for certain mindless payload spam maps with choky side paths, i.e., most maps on regular rotation for smooth brains.

Didn't \v\ have a server? Is it still up in tyool 2019?

idk
i haven't been on for a year

i specifically target these people and bully them

Anyone?

Sticky spam and place traps.
Only use pipes when you feel life you are cornered or there is not enough time to sticky trap

As a Med this thing is a blight

>Spamming GO GO with full overheal on a pyro and full uber after surfing off a rocket
>pyro insists on getting those 2 extra clutch shots on that threatening gibus sniper


At least the brass beast is only used by f2p heavies who already kinda suck and i can forgive them, that weapon turns all pyros into retards. bonus pts if a spy is recking havoc right behind them

don't? that's what demo is for, to put constant pressure on the other team and deny passage to an area. If you want kills, setup ambushes with the sticky launcher. plus, you get 1 point for an assist anyways so you should be on the score board.

>dragon's fury is good for like 3 days
>gets nerfed and now no one uses it
gee thanks valve

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I see almost every F2P pyro using it
before they quickly die

Do you play any background music to put you in the mood?
Here's mine youtube.com/watch?v=aQrVI-C0ets

The hitbox is broken, it's half the size of the projectile model. It's shit

>fully charged bodyshot a scout/medic/spy
>they complain
why should I go for the head when I'm already full mast?

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>when you kill a medic

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They're just coping
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO, YOU MUST KILL ME THAT WAY, NOT LIKE THIS

My favorite part of the game is when Backburner Pyro suddenly appears behind a wall of like six players and massacres them before they can react.

Excellent bait compliments to the chef

These are objectively the best hats for each class respectively
>Bonk helm
>Stainless pot
>Tyrannus
>Afro
>Tough guy's toque
>Engi cap
>Tyrolean
>Panama
>Magistrate's mullet
Anything released post 2011 is trash

Pyro-mains (and pit bull owners) are the true subhumans.

What about pic related, it was released on january 2012

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>tfw use the machina exclusively for this

youtube.com/watch?v=JqaI5LhNalk
Fix when?

>i remember when a cheater would join my games and completely ruin them, good times
man nostalgia really does turn you into a retard, doesnt it

*shoots you in the body 3 times*
oof, now that is just embarassing

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youtube.com/watch?v=Sp5_QuZqJe4
Usually accompanied with some Bourbon

Ok, anything released post Feb 2012 since you seem to really like that one.

Didnt they nerf backburner?

>Batters/Bonk helm
>Soldier's stash
>Brigade helm
>Demoman's Fro
>Officer's Ushanka
>Texas Ten Gallon
>Prussian Pricklehaube/Vintage Tyrolean
>Trophy Belt
>Fancy Fedora
Reminds me, why did Valve decide to retire the first 9 hats?

Because they NEED to finish their contracts to get it. Valve should make a daily objective system for these f2ps that hands out a weapon of basic type and make the objectives really team oriented. Would make them maybe a bit useful.
>help destroying 2 sentries in a single uber as med
>kill a spy that has a sapper on a friendly building
>extinguish 20 players
>don't play sniper/spy for the entire match
>assist in killing x players
>spread your heals on other teammates than that one conchbox soldier

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You'd need at least 59 damage on each shot to kill him in 3. Max damage on the revolver is 60 at absolute point blank, the range at which he destroys you first. The Pyro is taunting your corpse by the time your second shot comes out.

>defending on Thundermountain stage 1 as Heavy
>team kills enough of them to get us some downtime
>pull out my GRU and run to the little shack next to the hill on which they spawn
>they keep jumping down right in front of me and I mow down about 7 of them before I get killed
God bless Heavy.

>don't play sniper/spy for the entire match
Now this would be pretty good.

Anything from Pendulum or Dance with the Dead, really. I don't really listen to them when not playing vidya though.

>Tough Guy's Toque
Truly a man of taste.

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while that would be nice i dont think it would solve the problem of f2ps having single digit IQ
>webm related

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Autists are too scared to use VC. He must be a Chad.

>My revolver misses more than it hits
Sounds like you already know what you have to do

I think the plan was to slowly do that to all the hats that have the vintage prefix but they stopped after the first 9 and never did it again, ruining the point

You'd be suprised how reliable the stock spy revolver is. the damage falloff isn't that bad, it relys on being accurate. Yes, 3 shots, okay is a little hard to pull off perfectly, 3 full damage shots needs the right distance/aim on the model and usually is when the pyro isn't facing you.
But I very often am backpedaling out of the pyros range while consistently hitting 35-50 meatshots on him. 4 shots at most and his down. I'm not even good at spy at all, but sometimes I troll and just play Revolver spy and it does require good aim and positioning, but there's nothing funnier than defeating much better equip classes in a shit players hands with the revolver.
Sometimes I even left and right strafe in front of heavies and kill them in 4-6 straight body shots and they don't even hit me at all (their gun is revving in my face). I think TF2s net code is really shit. Its easily exploitable.

Anons what do you think is going to happen in the next update

You run at higher move speed. Just run away.

It goes both ways, I've shot at Demomen flailing ten feet away and suddenly my head just falls off. Don't even get me started on Spy

When activated, it should just make you immune to all special effects, like afterburn, Jarate, bleeding, etc. and have no extra damage resistance, but let you pick up ammo for cloak.

>Ubercharge the heavy
>slow cunt barely makes any impact, 2-3 kills at most
>Ubercharge the pyro
>kills entire enemy team, destroys all their shit

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the next major update or just update?
the latter, i'd say either the unusuals that were unboxed will be made counterfeit quality or just not touched at all beyond unmarketable, untradeable, etc etc
the former, i dont think much is going to happen
>heavy gets like 3 new miniguns that are all trash
>matchmaking gets 3 new maps with two of them being dogshit and one of them being mediocre
>nothing gets fixed like cl_interp 5 abuse or hit reg
>tf team goes back into hibernation for another 2+ years

why is the flame cone narrower than minigun spread

Why is it always soldiers too? You'd think the people the most butthurt about pyros would be spies.

>bang bang
>hit them so hard it sends them flying backwards, often solders/demomen kill themselves with their own projectiles
based gun

Should do extra damage on launched enemies.

whats with the sudden influx of "first.last.year" players now?

it was meant to be a flanking weapon that encouraged shooting targets in the back for insta kills instead of consistent dps, but even valve fucked up the premise and it was just worse in every regard to any other choice.
Valve is always afraid of making weapons too good, its why they split the Equalizer into 2 weapons, it was too good. Its why the +damage on the Natascha was quickly removed.

more stylish is getting a shot/kill with the taunt

>ubercharges a Pyro
>Pyro has activated his Mmmph

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I usually will always uber a good/decent Pyro because Flamethrower damage cannot be avoided or blocked, etc. If a Pyro is invulnerable and unloading flames into every target, the only way to counter that is with Pyro Air blasting you away from his team/building (which usually results in his death) to stall your uber.

If you uber a heavy, they are slow moving, need to keep spinning or moving up and respinning during the uber. Yes the damage is very high, but his slow and a few seconds of the uber is often lost because of bad aim, or moving and rerevving the gun.

Ubering a Solder/Demoman, can be countered or completely nullified by a few classes. A good Demoman will destroy the entire enemy team ubered with just the stickybomb launcher, but they are rare.

I don't play medic alot, I do sometimes, but often when I am playing, I observe who is making the most impact / doing good plays instead of just running forward and dying over and over, and I will uber them.

I don't always uber the same person over and over like most medics. its predictable, the enemy team if they are good will adapt to that. I always uber on the fly who I think will do the most damage/impact.

I think most of those were one retard.

I agree.
The reward-for-skill ceiling is too high, so the best Snipers (Or bots) can literally ruin a game.

even better
>one of the miniguns is actually good
>valve nerfs it in two weeks

>That guy who spams lenny face binds after he dies/gets a kill

>lose two shots for the chance to do extra damage if you can actually sneak behind someone very close
>also less accurate
Should have full six shots and full accuracy, but do 20% more from the back and 10% less from the front, and work at any range.

Probably rage instead of fear. I imagine it feels as good too though.

>They nerf degreaser + axetinguiser combo

It hurts to live. It was so fun to use

But the default is the best weapon for all the classes so why not use that

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>even less skill
It has less splash range than the rocket launchers.

>kill with shotgun
>tryhard
Hey it's what I always see.

>attack/defense or payload map
>assigned to red team
dropped

So bros, how come the Dragon's Fury doesn't do 3x damage to players sometimes, even when they're on fire? I assume it has something to do with the time between ticks of fire damage being just out of the timer for the Fury, but yeah, I would probably use that weapon all the time if this weren't the case.

Just use the Soda Popper, it's like FaN without making the second shot worthless.

youtube.com/watch?v=AuSwUxkCW_4&list=RD50c0WOHndvo&index=8
Eurobeat every single time.

Wanna know how I know you're a newfag?

>See this
>Try to play Revolver Spy instead of the typical backstab Spy I always play and got used to
>Still end up making it to the topscore despite getting at most 8 backstabs an entire game of Badwater, both offense and defense
Well alright.

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as I said, its very reliable, and I am a shit spy. if you're a really good spy, you need to use it way more.

most of your kills as spy should be with revolver anyway

Pyro got a primary, two secondaries, and a melee, while Heavy got a secondary.
So I figure Heavy will get one minigun, one secondary, two melees, and Pyro will get a melee.

Fuck off retard prenerf was busted in pubs and the truth is that hurts the game more than weapons that are busted in comp. Especially 4+ years ago, fuck. You're still crying.

But defending is the most fun.

>intelligence spawn
You can't complain about thegame being boring if you pick the most boring mode.

I never use it, but I think only a small part in the center of the shot does the full damage, the others only mini crit or do less damage in some other way

>he enjoys 25 second respawn time

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Seething

Agreed, defending and having players basically suicide into your defenses is quite enjoyable

>he dies

>A common complaint with most shotguns is that they reload TOO FAST and hold TOO MANY shells
>THE FORCE-A-NATURE has solved these problems! This two-shotter loads nice and slow, so you can SAVOR every precious moment.
I love this. It's such a fresh and novel way to describe the advantages and disadvantages that the weapon was going to release with without leaving the propaganda-like tone of the whole thing. You don't see this shit anymore at all, in any game.

This was my very first hat. Still have it though I don’t use it since I’m not sure how I would use it in a loadout.

>niggers who vote kick for no reason
wtf assholes

>The weapon doesn't function how it shpuld\
GOD I hope they fix this, would use this fun weapon so much more if it didn't do this. It's also great for sentry busting.

it was funnier back in the day when people could switch teams and votekick you if you killed them

Nah defending is boring.

I'm more confused why so many people instantly press F1 for bogus votekicks but then press F2 when people actually deserve it.

maybe they're both over the top, bizarre and cartoonish but both shine bright on their serious side as well

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probably can't do shit because i can't see shit through the flames

You actually had me until the last line

t. never played Overwatch

that is the intended behavior, straight from a valve nerf
aimbros finally had a reason to play pyro, but it caused too much butthurt so valve nerfed it

sometimes i equip the cloak and dagger and just watch people

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What if they got rid of restrictions for primary and secondary slot restrictions?
>Flare Gun and Gas Passer
>Backpack and SMG
>TWO Mediguns
>Two Backpacks and a Melee
>Sandvich and a Shotgun for full fatscout
>Booties/Peg Leg and a Grenade Launcher
>Shield and Stickies

I main the Brass Beast and I have 4.5K hours. Medics will actively compliments me/my gun because they have never seen someone use it correctly. It's gotten to the point that I can't even use any other minigun.
I hope no one saw the typo in my original post

>tfw when triclops on crafting 8 years ago because I was retarded

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>shield and stickies
only if you are allowed to detonate while charging for maximum space adventures

>retards still fall for this pasta

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>full fatscout
that would be nice
>booties and a grenade launcher
that would be just a soldier with a grenade launcher with better movement speed then
>shield and stickies
same thing really except you have blast & fire resistance
>two mediguns
overpowered since you could just switch between quick fix to insta heal your team and a different medigun to push
>the rest of them
worse than the meme loadouts we already have

And frightening engies with different voices as they start shooting everywhere but top of their sentries.

Why do all spy mains dress exactly the same?

Every thread until everyone achieves Nirvana:
youtu.be/07oKaWzJ13Q

there arent alot of cosmetics for spy

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Spy has tons of cosmetics but like 10 good ones

>fires shorch shot in your general direction

why is the pyro seeing you from a range where he would use his secondary?

>2500 hours
>still can't do rollouts or marker garder

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Give Heavy the Soldier's banners.
>but it'll be OP/minicrits with no damage falloff
It'll be strong when utilized effectively, but that's the point of sacrificing one of your Sandviches for a more team anchor oriented playstyle. The main thing it does do, however, is open up a brand new playstyle for Heavies without changing much.

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>how do I deal with pyro as spy?
>just run away, don't be in his flamethrower range
>but he'll just scorch shot me and fuck me because that thing is literally impossible to miss
>DUURRRRHHHH WHY IS THE PYRO SEEING YOU?
are you retarded?

If you're within scorch shot range but outside flamethrower range, I'm pretty sure revolver will win that fight.
Scorch shot doesn't deal very much damage if you aren't scoring direct hits and it has a very slow fire rate.

I miss these sort of in-game/in-universe adverts in TF2.

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what does "within scorch shot range" mean? you know scorch shot has literally zero damage falloff, right? every range is scorch shot range

The range that you're actually going to be forced to fight him instead of running around a corner where he can't get to you and grabbing the health pack there.

imgur.com/a/PAhuV9o
who knows

Why would anyone ever use the manmelter? Even the detonator is better

What if the shorch only aoe if you scored a direct hit?

that would actually make it balanced and not cancer

>almost all of them are painted lime, or pink
>like 3 in total that arent complete ant total dogshit

ironically i can only hit directs with the scorcshot but not with any other flare gun so nothing would really change

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That would make it shit, you mean.

is it worth it crafting your own hats?

this one ain't that bad
it's like that edgy nigga from overwatch

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no

Just play stock/gunboats/mg soldier and go for mgs only on easy targets, and over time you will get a better feel for the jumps and timing your hit. Worked for me anyway.

Why is stock demoman so powerful?

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The yellow one is nice.