Persona 5 sold over 2.5 million

cringe

Never ever sadly

If you got to fuck a legit 10/10 Asian escort cosplaying as a maid like I did you'd probably start to say they were equal. Was worth every dollar.

Because those happen to be good games.
Now if games like Atelier Ryza or Code Vein manage to break 500k , now we can call that a success for anime games.

It's a natural response to the western model of games where you play in a "realistic world" as a generic man-dude who collects crafting materials, kills things with a bat or gun, or sword, cut-scenes with characterization and plot, and quick time events.

Anime games have cool asthetic and aren't bogged down by political crap. The new Fire Emblem also has really good gameplay. I wasn't expecting it to be this good since the last game was dogshit.

>REEEEEEEE STOP MAKING FUN OF MY MOVIE

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>If you got to
You're phasing it like it's some sort of accomplishment.

>It's only a movie if you willfully ignore the gameplay
lol what a stupid argument

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Enjoy your siphilis

In case of xenoblade and fe because they have terminal shit taste.

how is 2 million successful a turd like nioh sold 2.5m

All the attach rates on those games are minimal.
I mean, i love all these games, but your run off the mill westernshit does the same numbers as all three combined.

Do they allow you to record or does that cost extra?

Rin's thighs are so perfect, I want to rub my penis between them, but just before I cum, I will shove my hard member inside and impregnate her.

>I will purposefully ignore the amount of dungeon exploration, scripted events, boss battles, normal battles, side quests and persona fusion so i can attempt to justify my lack of mental capacity required to read some conversations

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I mean Persona 5 is like 100 hours long.
Even if theres 40 or so hours of cutscenes, that still leaves 60 hours worth of otherwise gameplay

absolutely destroyed, can't wait for le angry wojak ""comeback""

>not wanting to impregnate her thighs
weak

Because the bias against anime weakens by the year.

>this game has a literal 40 hours of cutscenes
>b-but there's gameplay eventually, I swear

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There it is ^

>40 hours of cutscenes in a 100 hour game
>B-but that other 60% doesn't count I swear

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Still jealous?

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The only place a mans seed should be is deep inside a womans womb.

No im not, you can do it too.

That was 3 years ago and im still STI free. Expensive prostitutes are safe and clean.

I don't even think this was an option.

Th-that doesn't count! Famitsu isn't based!
STOP IT

Gaming in general is just bigger now

that skirt looks really short

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u mad?

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I wish and yet I also worry they'd totally fuck it up.

>aren't bogged down by political crap.
Why does P5 have blatant feminist propaganda, then?

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>Literally one cherrypicked example
pffft

Is this not an anime game too?

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>/pol/ being triggered

I also funny that the FFXV section does fuckall and never impacts the game.

and yet it's the last decent part before the game goes on rails, literally, and just speeds you to the end of the plot after fighting a boss that is copied from Sonic 2006, see

>Look mom I did rush through one random battle!
I like how you're now acknowledging that yes, it does have gameplay

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>doesn't bother showing the enemy turn so we don't know if he is in NG+ with end game armor or a Phys Immune Persona

sad

>physical copies
based

>not wanting to coat her delicious thighs with your seed
gay af ngl

Funny hoe you won't say this about even nu god of war, which is more of a game than persòyna 5, a friendship and dating simulator.

You could have just said escapism is good.

Nah, Goy of War 4 is a game. It's just a shit game. Now if you tried to say Life is Strange, then we can argue

Oh they totally would. And personally I wouldnt even want a turn based game as the remake. Id want them to give Golden Sun the FFVII Remake treatment where it plays more like a kingdom hearts game.

>OOGA BOOGA IF GAME HAVE TEXT GAME NOT GAME
It would be fine if the dialogue was actually interactive, like in a proper RPG.

As it is, Persona 5 is a 100 hour game where 50 hours is spent in non-interactive cutscenes (with atrocious writing and voice acting, to boot) and the other 50 hours in braindead and simplistic menu-based combat,

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is this webm meant to make a point? rush battles go as far back as SNES. why the hell would someone buy a jrpg and whine about rush option.

Why don't you use a WRPG from the same year, not one from 12 years before P5

It was meant to make a point I think, but kinda just proved that user's a moron

Persona 5 is good but I haven’t played the other 2 and prolly won’t
Honestly that could be why
Here’s your (you)

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>Why are anime games having so much success?
Easy, spend less money on actual making a good game and more on marketing.

>Why don't you use a WRPG from the same year
If you insist.

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>ironic weeb
This doesn't make any sense.

>WRPG dialogue
God I hope my transition goes over fine I can finally feel right in my body

when did skirts, especially miniskirts, go out of style?

Nigga wut what marketing for persona 5

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persona is overrated garbage

>Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You know what? I'll stick with Persona 5 over boring pieces of shit like that
No wonder you had KOTOR in the image, lol

i blame jeans

What's the proper skirt length for a girl?

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In japan they actually are extremely sexist to woman in the office unlike in america where women have to pretend.

Never because we can't have nice things

What the fuck is an ironic weeb

Not him but Persona 5 had commercials on TV where I live, like hourly

>Nigga wut what marketing for persona 5
You must be either clueless or a zoomer.
P5 had the most marketing by Atlus of all their titles combined.

Never because it's shit.

I never saw any Persona 5 commercials here in America

I live in texas, and like I said, hourly. Mainly on TNT and USA

Mini skirts = cute
Micro skirts = trashy

>Famitsu

They given even literal garbage 40/40. If anything, them ranking Persona 5 as best RPG is indicative how mediocre a game it is.

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>There are people ITT actually triggered by Persona's success
I wonder why it seems to annoy people so much. I don't care if a game series I hate does good.

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>As it is, Persona 5 is a 100 hour game
Concession accepted.

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Depends on the girl.
Everything can be fixed if she wears pantyhose though.

Pantyhose + any skirt length = perfect.

Dont only like 10 or 15 games have a 40/40?

Fair. But it's better than p5 honestly. P5 was garbage. Only p3 was god tier.

>Kat
> Loli
> turned dark skin for SJW purposes

dude, stop.

I love my wife May Sakaali and her perfect thighs!!!!

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Everyone wants what they don't personally like to fail. Everyone wants another TORtanic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famitsū_scores
Twenty-five

Maybe for nostalgiafags and edgefags.
P4 had better character development, plot, mechanics etc. than P3FES

Imagine thinking 60 hours of cutscenes of FORREAL and "JOKER... ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING BRO :(?" is good
I swear, Yea Forums is the biggest hypocrite when criticising games. They'll call games shit while liking abysmal trash like VNs.

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An ironic weeb is just a weeb

Is that rin tohsaka?

>At first it was "40 hours of cutscenes"
>Now it's "60 hours"
lol

why is the knight a nigger
niggers couldn't be knights

Who else would it be

Persona 4 was incel tier. It was what drew all these faggots who want friends and shit in. It's literally a dating sim with scooby doo antics.
Persona 4 is even worse than 5.

>Hurr it's just scooby doo
Oh look, it's this old meme
So which are you, nostalgiafag or edgelord?

>P4 had better character development
Uh not that guy but bullshit. P3 had in my opinion some of the best character development. It's the only game in the series where everyone's Ultimate Persona awakenings are actually written into the plot, and where everyone's plotlines don't just stop until social links

tifa lockhart

>perfect thighs
>No skindentation

Eh, no.

That's where the fantasy part of 'fantasy RPG' comes in.

Ironic weebs are entry level "weebs" that don't like weebshit apart from using it as a fashion or humor accessory online. It's the sort of person that likes JoJo or Persona but then complains about how all anime are shallow shounen or cringey pandering harems.

>the game where literally nothing happens and every gameplay and story element is weaker than P5
>better than P5
P3 autists never fail to amaze me with their delusion.

in what world do you think those numbers are impressive? the world where the global gaming population hasn't increased and we should always compare numbers of units sold to numbers from the fucking 1990s?

>muh scooby doo
>muh dating sim
Yeah so you literally don’t play Persona I see. All dating scenes combined is only one hour out of the 100 hour game in both P3, P4, and P5. In fact, P3 is more of a dating sim than any of the others since you aren’t allowed to be friends with the girls, you have to date them if you do their social links and they start their romance at rank 7.

I wish I were a rich old man so I'd pay this slut to please me

>Nearly half of the game is Cutscenes
You’re not really helping your case

>its finally weeb games turn to get eaten from the inside out by popularity
beautiful. I will cherish every tear. Yea Forums is already a 3rd worlder board now too. hehehehe

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Because all 3 games are good.
Weird, huh.

Ah yes, the true western game, appealing to my cuck fetishes

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P3 character development is shit. Everyone loses their shit because a couple of characters have one short scene where they gain resolve near the end and then go back to doing nothing for a month, just like the rest of the game. The persona awakenings canonically happen in 4 and 5 too, it’s canon that you max out your social links and get the ultimate personas.

did you not look at the picture?

>the true western game
>russia
>western

>stinky weebs talk about a franchise
>wannabe stinky weebs talk about said franchise like they have been fans of it all along
>normalfags that think having anime as an interest makes them less of a normalfag pick it up due to word of weebmouth

Still better than most ps4 games

The writing varied from average to straight pants on head retarded, but the gameplay was enjoyable enough. Easy to break and be overpowered, but what rpg isn't.

And they're all complete shit

>B-but PS4!!

That's not success those are pretty average sales numbers compared to the size of the industry

Ironic weebs are to otaku culture like IM SO NERDYYY girls are to videogame culture

soul soulless

>stinky weeb franchise caters to the larger audience now
forgot that part.

Note that all the games you listed are related to Nintendo.

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did this idiot just use "scripted event" as a counterpoint to a game being called a movie?

>Emotionally abused elven slut
>Bisexual psychopathic Orc
God I hate Octavia and Regongar so fucking much. I play that game pretending these fucks don't even exist. The only reason I keep them around is because I need advisors.

>Brawl
>DQ9
>>>>>Skyward Sword
>Skyrim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL STAR BATTLE
Why do people defend Famitsu again?

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Anime games are shit, I want a Daytona remake or collection

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In that game you're the one doing the cucking

Persona 5 isn't

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persona 5 is successful because it's a good game.
xenoblade is successful because switchfags are desperate.

Yeah, it's very weird how people act like a 50/50 cutscene/gameplay split is normal. Take for example Deus Ex: it's a far better written RPG than Persona 5, yet it only has maybe a few minutes of cutscenes in what is a 25-30 hour game.

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>he doesn't know

Find me the anime

Shit, I did. Sometimes this works out as some Jap games have real archaic design choices, but usually it's just a downgrade across the board.

This. No one actually likes xenoblade apart from cringey waifushitters, it's just a cope because switchfags have no jrpgs.

As a game XB2 blows the all out simulator the fuck out.

Not really because you're the one trying to have a serious relationship with Octavia while Regongar doesn't give a fuck and he just wants to bum you while you fuck his sex friend.

You steal his elf away from him and can pretty much even turn her against him. He basically views her as his.
Also, shes a slutty elf sex slave so you knew what to expect from the start.
You want nice romance? Fuck the demon(s).

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I love Tohsaka!!

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Musou clone doesnt count

>someone actually took the time to make this

My only problem with most animes that actually might be good is that they use gore so much it's really offputting, like I understand if it's some kind of body horror / gore anime but like just a normalish anime but it has to have so much gore without brining anything to the anime is just dumb

p5 is one of the biggest shitposter magnets of all time:
>switchfags shitpost against it because they didn't get the port they begged for
>console-war fags shitpost against it because it's a sony exclusive
>smashfags shitpost against it because joker got into their party game before geno/isaac/doomguy
>mainline-only fags shitpost against it because it's persona and they want attention
>p3 and p4 babbies shitpost against it because they're jealous that p5 got more mainstream attention than their games
>westaboos shitpost against it because it's a japanese game with an anime art style
>tortanicfags shitpost against it because it's a new game released this decade
>xenofags shitpost against it because of their made-up "rivalry" between p5 and xeno 2
>xv-kun shitposted against it because it was a more critically acclaimed jrpg than ffxv
>wrpg-kun shitposts against it because it's a jrpg
>acfag shitposts against it because it has a story and cutscenes

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>gacha simulator BTFO an actual well made JRPG
Try harder faggot

>inb4 "Japanese humor"

This It's cool and hip to pretend to like anime, now that mainstream youtubers like pewdiepie have made it something that is cool to like and you are not an epic memester if you don't like anime. It's basically what big bang theory did to nerd culture in the late 00s - early 10s.

Still better than the ttrpg where they have dumb shit like a lesbian Paladin selling a Holy Avenger to get a magic gender change potion for her girlfriend that costs pocket change in the setting.

>>xenofags shitpost against it because of their made-up "rivalry" between p5 and xeno 2
Can someone give me a quick rundown?

the gacha is entirely optional

What if I simply disliked it?

There's nothing well made about P5. It's a braindead, poorly paced and incredibly repetitive game with incredilby limited combat system fully broken by the all-outs. XB2 has some issues but in terms of actual gameplay mechanics it just blows Persona out.

i think the game is fun

Don't have the DLC so i can't romance the demon. Stuck with the Lawful neutral failed Paladin that is depressed because everyone says she's too beautiful even though she's basically average especially with that haircut.

It really isnt. Blades are a core mechanic of the game, even with the charity blades the game gives you, you still need to occassionally use cores if you wanna unlock everything

But bro, how can a game with 80 hours of cutscene be a real game? That's 100 hours you're not playing.

P4 is the most transparent about it being a friend simulator and nothing else. 3 tried to tie other themes into it and had a cast who actually didn't like each other at first. In 4 they start sucking your dick right away. That is fucking incelcore. I don't even know why you try to deny this. It's the worst of the 3, and you only defend it because 4 was your first.

This

Then you have shit taste.

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i like it

This and it’s hilarious
Also
>nierfags shitpost it because P5 got JRPG of the year the year it was released

Based.

You are a normal scum ironic weeb if you actually think P4 is “incelcore” whatever the fuck that means. The P3 casts sucks you off the same as all the other games you edgelord faggot, stop parroting the retarded shit other P3fags told you.

lmao what game is this?

I'd rather be a normalfag than a stinky weeb, honestly.

You literally cuck him to death in the end and break up their pair.
Their relationships are at a dead end naturally anyway.

Still, Octavia is used goods. How do I know she isn't STD ridden and her holes stretched beyond salvation?

Retard faggot

>having good taste makes you an ironic weeb
Ah, so that's it. I understand now.

you can beat the game with a team of commons, though if you go for the superbosses you probably need to go for rares

golden showers is trash. not even in the top 5 gba jrpg's. speaking of that...

>v's official top 5 gba rpgs (no ports or trpgs)
>5. Pokemon Emerald
>4. Summon Night: Swordcraft Story
>3. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue Rescue Team
>2. Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
>1. Mother 3

>honorable mention: Tomato Adventure

Everyone in that game aside from the blue oni are used goods and questions about veneric diseases in a setting with retarded levels of magic where remove disease scroll is sold by any vendor are moot to begin with.
What you should be concerned with is her annoying personality.

It's not "anime" having success, it is Japanese games having success. Larger parts of the gaming market are starting to notice that Japanese games have higher quality.

Western games are shitting the bed as AAA publishers chase the next golden goose while fucking over the entire industry. There's absolutely no competition anymore

>that list
LMAO

. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue Rescue Team
This is only rated highly because of nostalgia. The gameplay, story and characters are absolute trash.

entry level weeb

I always thought FE was based on a pseudo-feudal Japan. Apparently, it's actually based on Medieval European culture. So I guess I can see why Westerners have a easier time being acclimated to it.

The p3 cast only values you MONTHS into the game, while incelsona 4 sucks your dick from day fucking 1. Stop seething that p4 is shit, /r9k/ boy.

True. Isn't Valerie a virgin though or just generally inexperienced? Tbh if Amiri was romance-able i'd have gone for her no matter how experienced or not she is. Kind of miffed that Pathfinder didn't allow her to be an option.

>gameplay, story and characters are absolute trash
compared to what? golden sun?

I like anime but I dissociate from the """people""" who watch anime. If that makes me an ironic weeb, so be it.

>Only value you months into the game
>Literally nominates you to lead the Tartarus team from day 1
Only Junpei is a particular faggot about you starting out because he was cucked out of being the protagonist

Wind blows
Rain falls
Yea Forums seethes about P5

>I always thought FE was based on a pseudo-feudal Japan.

>European medieval knights in armor cavalry and clerical bishops and healers
>feudal Japan

Which vidya is this?

If Atelier Ryza breaks a million copies sold I'm gonna lose my shit.

You're basically the only option though. Mitsuru is busy trying to guide the party, Junpei is a fucking moron, and Yukari and Akihiko want nothing to do with it or are busy. Then by the time you have a semi-functional team when Fuuka joins, you've proven yourself with actual results

fate go, you fucking retard

They nominate you the leader because Akihiko is hurt, and Mitsuru needs to do recon, retard.

At the end of a day it's still just a shitty yuribait atelier, it won't even break 500k.

They literally suck your dick from day one for no reason.

>Fate go

I've never actually played Atelier but aren't they all yuribait? It's why I've never actually played one, either make 'em lesbians or not.

Dunno about Valerie since she is just a retard.
True about Amiri since that would warrant a playtrhough with some giga melee chad who pushes her to the ground and forces her to embrace her own feminity.

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By that logic, it's the same in P4. Yosuke straight admits he cant lead for shit and since you start the game with only you and Yosuke able to summon, there not many choices there.

>Success
Call me when they are making CoD money

>for no reason
I mean to be fair they nominate you the leader because you're the one most readily able to summon your persona. Plus you can have multiple personas

3 houses is less anime than fates so it's significantly better.

>P3 had in my opinion some of the best character development.
delusional. junpei is the only example p3fags can ever point to, and his arc is shit. in the main story, he starts out as an asshole, acts all apologetic and remorseful for a while, then goes back to being an asshole again. then in the answer, he abruptly becomes the voice of reason. this is what p3fags consider "the best character development."
>It's the only game in the series where everyone's Ultimate Persona awakenings are actually written into the plot
p2is does the same thing for everyone other than jun. even yukino's ultimate persona is written into the plot, and she only gets to have hers at caracol.

>aren't they all yuribait?
Nope

Atelier Iris games have male protagonists and they are all pretty comfy though still somewhat low quality.
Ar series is the only Gust thing that doesn't suck complete dick and it has a male protagonist too.

Watch more anime

>literally just joined and they don’t know whether you’re capable or if you’re a threat
>haha just be our leader even though we’ve been doing fine ourselves without you

funny joke.

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>doing fine
wew

>doing fine
The cope p4incels do. Aki was INJURED and Mitsuru was doing recon.

>game stops to announce a move
This is some bad design right here.

>In my opinion P3 doesn't have the best character development
Ok. And I like how you just described Junpei's story like that invalidates the rest of the game somehow. Also how does he go back to being an asshole?
>p2is does the same thing for everyone other than jun
So... it's not the same then. Plus they're not the same as P3, if you don't choose the right options you don't get the ultimate Personas.

This. P3fags always prove they’re wannabe boomers because they dick ride P3 simply for being the oldest and edgiest of the new persona games when they refuse to play the superior P2 because it’s too old. P2 does the dark themes and character development better than P3.

What this is even supposed to prove?

But user it‘s from atlus, it has demons and looks evil also you can date your waifus hehehe

Did you honestly think people won‘t like it? It‘s a shitty jrpg with waifus and this boards consists of 16year olds

LMao and some people think this competes with P5's gameplay

I didn't pay attention to FE until recently. Literally the only thing I knew about FE is Marth from Smash Bros. And he doesn't at all look like a European knight, especially because of his pretty boy long-haired looks and the fact that he speaks Japanese in the game. If you told me he was Japanese, I would have believe you.

I've been impressed by 3 houses as someone who started with awakening and skipped fates. All of the changes they made are great. Every unit has more depth immediately and more available actions in combat.

Even the browser games can compete with
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>all out
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>all out

I've completed like 300 shows and I'm basically done with anime. The only thing I watched recently was mob psycho and jojo because that's the only thing I can stand anymore. I hate SoL shit and all this retarded isekai shit.

To be fair, the Birthright army in Fates was all Feudal Japan and the series was only in Japan for a long time, so nobody knew much about it until FE8.

people want to go back to a simpler time where high schools were filled with white people who were straight

Post your top 20

What is the Fate movie/series with Tohsaka as the female lead?

You'd probably be a lot happier if you didn't just create things to be mad at

Unlimited Blade Works

Gee I wonder why...
Such a tough mystery to crack...

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Rad, thanks, my guy. I heard that was the best one, am I wrong?

Character background wise, yes (unless you're unironically a wormslut fag)
Overall plot, no

>Also how does he go back to being an asshole?
by blaming door-kun for nyx's arrival towards the end of the game, showing that he never really stopped being a jealous asshole after all.
>So... it's not the same then. Plus they're not the same as P3, if you don't choose the right options you don't get the ultimate Personas.
yukino gets her ultimate persona if you convince her to stay with the group and move on from fujii's death. tatsuya, maya, eikichi, and lisa are given their ultimate personas by philemon after defeating jun at caracol. like it or not, it's written into the plot. the player just has to earn it by finding all the featherman masks at mt. iwato and convincing yukino to stay with the group.

DQIX was great you friendless fuck

Are you telling me this character looks Medieval European to you? Cause his design looks Jap and even his armor looks like it's based on a Samurai. In the game he debuted in for most Westerns (Melee), he only spoke Japanese.

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I really don’t get why western devs go out of their way to make characters as ugly as possible

>by blaming door-kun for nyx's arrival towards the end of the game, showing that he never really stopped being a jealous asshole after all.
Yeah that one one emotional outburst during a stressful moment. I think you just have absolutely no patience with characters in fiction, kinda sad.
>yukino gets her ultimate persona if you convince her to stay with the group and move on from fujii's death. tatsuya, maya, eikichi, and lisa are given their ultimate personas by philemon after defeating jun at caracol.
So "if you don't choose the right options you don't get the ultimate Personas", just like I literaly said and you quoted directly. Thanks for agreeing with me.
> like it or not, it's written into the plot. the player just has to earn it by finding all the featherman masks at mt. iwato and convincing yukino to stay with the group.
Yeah it's written into the plot, but it's something you have to go out of your way for and there's a decent chance you as a new player won't get it. I prefer the way P3 does it, when it's inevitable that you'll come across it.

>Longsword
>Breastplate
>European style clothing
Change his hair to brown or blonde and this wouldnt even be an argument

Bullshit. Seriously, I see more Personafag attacking Xenoblade threads than I see(more like never) Xenofags in Persona threads. The only reason this fake rivalry started was because of Smash.

Is there a worse fanbase than Persona4fags? Because they got into persona from 4, they seem to regard it the best ever. They're so vitriolic too, when their game was the most boring of the nusonas.

Probably anti-4 people because they're so goddamn annoying

>character development is getting rid of a character's interesting traits until they're mary sues

>xenofags shitpost against it because of their made-up "rivalry" between p5 and xeno 2
I have literally never seen Xenofags shitpost against P5. I've seen a lot of P5fags shitpost against Xeno, though.

because the west are shoving sjw shit up everyone's arse and nobody likes it.

Manga is outselling Comics in the west. Think about that.

NuPersona fags in general. I wanna go back to fighting demon hitler

Never ever

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>4 replies
good bait, people died.

Person who likes entry level shit and keeps saying that is not a weeb,calls others weebs too then proceeds to laugh on it. Also says the word "waifu" a lot and it most likely refers to some fotm female character from the current season. Then he switches the next season most likely.
Avoid at all costs.

All weeb games have the worst fandoms. Just some are more bearable then the other.

P5 is a PS3 port

Kinda reminds me of my roommate. Plays Nintendo games all the time and watches Attack on Titan, but also got annoyed when some anime video played on his youtube account because "he doesn't wanna be recommended this weeb stuff"

Persona 3fags are way worse and more obnoxious and nostalgia goggled

428 Shibuya is fantastic you gigantic pussy

>Yeah that one one emotional outburst during a stressful moment.
yeah, that "one emotional outburst" that the rest of the group manages to refrain from even though they're all scared shitless too. yukari even steps in to defend door-kun in that conversation. and it's not like junpei gets the benefit of the doubt considering that he was already a jealous asshole long before that rant.
>I think you just have absolutely no patience with characters in fiction, kinda sad.
no, i just expect to see good character development from a game that gets praised for its character development.
>Yeah it's written into the plot
glad to see you're admitting that p3 isn't the only game in the series that did this, then.

Three House is MUCH less anime than Awakening, Fates and Echoes though, at least as artstyle and character's design goes.

Persona 5 is unironically one of the greatest games made.

what are you talking about, it's fun as fuck

The Switch has been dead for months. It's normal if the first game it gets since December sells.

I hope that's a dude on the right.

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I'm not gay

>yeah, that "one emotional outburst" that the rest of the group manages to refrain from even though they're all scared shitless too.
If you've paid attention the rest of the game then you may have noticed that Junpei is a bit more impulsive than the rest.
>and it's not like junpei gets the benefit of the doubt considering that he was already a jealous asshole long before that rant.
Well, he does, because he actively apologizes for losing his cool. And also he found out that all the human race was gonna die.
>no, i just expect to see good character development from a game that gets praised for its character development.
There was good character development, you just don't seem to be very patient with characters not acting perfect.
>glad to see you're admitting that p3 isn't the only game in the series that did this, then.
I like how you cut off the rest of my statement because I actively admit that P3 did it way better, and P2 even did it differently so no you're still wrong.

This

Why lie?

>

Nope. It had the worst story and characters by far, and the gameplay was completely casualized.
SMT is much better.

>P3 AND Snoyfags in one thread.
Wow, this cancer is about to go stage 4

>yukari fags

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Stop samefagging about muh p3 fags.

no you faggot
kys

>its cool to pretend to like vidya
>its cool to pretend to like anime
I used to get beaten up after school for playing age of mythology and watching inuyasha,what the fuck happened?

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Is that why you're assigned to be the leader over two experienced persona users?

Stop being one

Imagine writing all that and spending time cherry picking screenshots to argue that a game is bad
No one will ever see a picture like that and suddenly decide the 100 hours they put into the game were actually fake fun fuck off no fun fag

Bend over.

Obsessed.

Isn't she Mexican?

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you're the one shitting up a persona 5 thread because you have nothing to do. stay celibate, brother.

Seething

Lie?
The Switch has been dead this 2019.

yes

Everyone hates P3fags

P4fags don't get it any better.

Pretty much. I liked Xenoblade X and and wanted a new RPG for Switch so I got it despite how turboweeb it looked. I regret it and it's a big step down from XCX. Literally shit besides the anime tits.

I haven't posted anything about Persona, I'm just mocking you for being absolutely obsessed about an imaginary enemy. You've already given me a label despite me not saying anything. Absolutely obsessed.

>There was a character cut from launch
>A blog id was skipped, so we know roughly when it would have been revealed
>Isaac comes back as an assist trophy after being absent from sm4sh
>He has a greatly expanded moveset and an odd amount of effort put in for being from such a dead, niche franchise
It's not fair bros...

>nostalgia goggled
3 and 4 came out within 2 years of each other tho

lmao at p3 somehow not being an "incel fantasy" compared to 4 and 5, yet its the only game, where every s. link with female character ends with a relationship and you dont even have social links with male characters from your team

No one cares about your shit obscure games

>Imagine writing all that and spending time cherry picking screenshots to argue that a game is bad
If it's cherrypicking, why has nobody ever been able to present even a single jrpg with a coherent dialogue system as a counter-example during any of the billion times this bait image has been posted?

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Because nobody really cares about the dialogue argument, and almost no modern WRPGs do that which if why you always use 12-15 year old games

Except they fixed all of that in P3P.

>still seething

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P3fags are bigger nostalgiafags and most people got into P4 after the anime came out years later and after Golden came out which gave it more popularity.

Japanese devs make video games whereas most Western devs make garbage

Good thing I have a PS4
Persona 5 is still shit too

Nah fuck off faggot. Anyone who likes harem anime is an incel loser who doesn't have any friends and also has shit taste.

well I mean that kind of depends on whether you count the dialogue sections as cutscene. I feel like it's a bit of a gray area

Most people on Yea Forums back in the day got into P4 because of the Endurance Run, not the anime

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>Japanese devs make video games
Refer to

I feel you. I used to unironically collect Lego star wars sets in middle school and read ultimate marvel but I was torn apart for it sort of.
Now everyone loves talking about star wars and talking about how avengers endgame made them cry

The NPC meme is kinda real. People will only like something if they're told by the masses and media TO like it. They're being told to like anime and all that stuff now.

>muh generic attack animation followed by 2deep4u quote written by a 14 year old

Nah, he has good taste and you're just a fag.

Nooooooo Switchbros it was supposed to be OUR turn to play Persona 5!

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>If you've paid attention the rest of the game then you may have noticed that Junpei is a bit more impulsive than the rest.
i did pay attention to the rest of the game. i've also paid attention to p3fags' arguments over how great its character development is. i'm not impressed by a character "developing" from a jealous impulsive asshole into a... jealous impulsive asshole.
>And also he found out that all the human race was gonna die.
so did the rest of the group and they still weren't petty enough to blame the mc. junpei does, becaus at the end of the day, he's still jealous.
>There was good character development
there really wasn't. it was such a step down from the p2 duology, it's not even funny.
>P3 did it way better
no, p2is did it better by remembering that it's a game, not a movie, and tying gameplay to the ultimate persona awakenings while still weaving them into the plot.

>single jrpg with a coherent dialogue system
Doesn't exist because jrpgs are aimed at nip high schoolers and otakus.

Or it's simply that things fall in and out of fashion and have always done so.
Remember, the comics aren't as big as they were when you were a kid.

>almost no modern WRPG do that

>every WRPG outside of Bioware/Bethesda games still use such a dialogue system
>Bioware/Bethesda games are now representative of WRPGs despite coming out like maybe once every half decade
Sounds to me like you're the one desperately cherrypicking

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No most people on Yea Forums got into it from P4arena. The persona general started because of arena.

>>xv-kun shitposted against it because it was a more critically acclaimed jrpg than ffxv

He shitposts against ANY JRPG that is better than FFXV.

Which is a lot because holy fuck FFXV was so bad.

/pol/ buzzword to whinge about people who like anime, just test it anytime, it's always 100% a /pol/tard who hates anime that uses it

Based.

and your point is what, exactly? a game has cutscenes?
i didn't say shit about cutscenes, if you happened to read my post, I said they make garbage

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Because Gamers don't have sex

>i did pay attention to the rest of the game.
I mean, considering you ignored Junpei's apology I really can't believe that.
>so did the rest of the group and they still weren't petty enough to blame the mc. junpei does, becaus at the end of the day, he's still jealous.
There's no indication he's still jealous though. I think it's far, far more likely that he just gets upset because he doesn't wanna die along with the rest of the human race.
>there really wasn't. it was such a step down from the p2 duology, it's not even funny.
I disagree, especially because P2:EP drops that ball severely.
>no, p2is did it better by remembering that it's a game, not a movie, and tying gameplay to the ultimate persona awakenings while still weaving them into the plot.
Tying gameplay to the Ultimate Persona awakenings? So "gameplay" for you is deciding between two choices when you have all the time in the world to choose? Well I've got to say that I find your opinion pretty shit, especially because this aspect isn't even carried over to EP. I much prefer my characters growing and moving on, rather than them possibly not doing so because I chose the wrong response.

you mean like the garbage in your images that is a watered down Cinematic game of a good series?

>every WRPG outside of Bioware/Bethesda games still use such a dialogue system
You could try listing some? Saying "no seriously everyone does" says nothing.
>Sounds to me like you're the one desperately cherrypicking
This is hilarious, seeing as you could have just listed some examples yet here we are.

Exactly, god of war was perfectly fine series, even a pretty good one, up until the most recent game.

Because westerners need an escape from society’s pressures just like the Japanese do and they are the only ones making content uninhibited by puritans and the idea that cartoons are “just for kids”

>4m

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>Shitmata
1000x worse than OP's games.
Yikes

A few of the 40/40 are quite based really
>Vagrant Story
>FF12
>BW1
>KI Uprising
>DQXI

But then they've got complete kusoge like FF13-2 which only succeeds in the music.

I assume that P5 was a bigger deal for Atlus because it was their best selling game ever

Yes. the PS4 reboot ruined the series

just say entry level weeb or basic weeb

an ironic weeb isnt any of the above

>You could try listing some?
I already did:

>FF12
>DQXI
Nah

salsa pls

That was literally ONE example. You just said that
>every WRPG outside of Bioware/Bethesda games still use such a dialogue system
So c'mon, name a few more

None of those games are even remotely deserving of 40/40. Take Vagrant Story for example. The game not only looks hideous and consists almost entirely of puke brown corridors with some of the ugliest texture work I've seen, and with characters being jittery, low-poly deformed abominations, but its combat is beyond clunky. You can't simply fight an enemy like you would in a normal action-RPG, between every attack there is a pause where you have to retarget them. Even something as simple as casting a spell pauses the game.

This is also a game where you have to switch weapons constantly, and to do so requires constant laborious and lengthy scrolling through what has got to be the worst menu system ever made.The music consists of bland, utterly forgettable orchestral ambient tracks. There's barely any sound design to speak of, and a complete lack of voice acting, while still having cutscenes with close-ups of character faces, bizarrely enough. The story is nothing more than the cliche 'bad guy gets corrupted with ancient evil force and goes mad with power' trope told in a needlessly pretentious manner.

To put things into perspective: Vagrant Story came out within the same year as other action-RPGs like Severance: Blade of Darkness, Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and Diablo 2, all of which are vastly superior.

I remember yoko taro talking about being scared of persona or something where he did those chart things. But nier totally outsold persona lmao

>That was literally ONE example.
You want more examples? There's the Expeditions games, the Pillars games, the upcoming The Outer Worlds, ATOM RPG, etc.

>FF13-2 is a 40/40 game
...Um, what? What?

>I mean, considering you ignored Junpei's apology I really can't believe that.
junpei's apologies are meaningless because he never actually stops being a dick.
>There's no indication he's still jealous though. I think it's far, far more likely that he just gets upset because he doesn't wanna die along with the rest of the human race.
he's the only one who turns it around on the mc, you know, the guy he's been jealous and resentful of from day one.
>I disagree, especially because P2:EP drops that ball severely.
ep is still better written than any of the hackshino games.
>So "gameplay" for you is deciding between two choices when you have all the time in the world to choose?
uh, yeah. gameplay is making decisions, exploring mt. iwato to find all the masks, actually interacting with the game.
>Well I've got to say that I find your opinion pretty shit, especially because this aspect isn't even carried over to EP.
which is why i specifically brought up p2is, not ep.

All those options results in the same outcome tho, like when those dark knights terrorize your kingdom and everything you say they just laugh at you.

>But nier totally outsold persona lmao
By being on multiple platforms.

>How about these 5 RPGs that came out, mostly from indie devs
Hah! Ok

>FF12
>40/40

>Dude what if we made literally half the cast be inconsequential to the story
>Dude what if we made a cast that barely says anything and almost never interacts with each other
>Dude what if we made multiple cutscenes where the main character has no idea what's going on and just stands in the background while people who matter speak
>Dude what if we made a character who's literally just a random girl off the street
>Dude what if we made a villain who has zero emotional connection to the heroes and doesn't even meet them until the last ten minutes
>Dude what if we took Final Fantasy Tactics' setting and made it a poor man's Star Wars
>Dude what if we gave the narrator a comical Apu accent
>Dude what if we made a political plot and then ruined it by turning it into standard ancient god shenanigans
>Dude what if we made a plot where the heroes have almost no impact on what happens until 95% of the way through the story and spend their time traipsing through non-descript caves and ruins
>Dude what if I'm Captain Basch
>Dude what if we took everything 100% seriously and had zero levity
>Dude what if we wrote all of the dialogue to sound like a Renaissance Fair
>Dude what if we we had no overworld and all travel was handled by a menu or floating teleport crystals
>Dude what if we made a battle system where you set everything up in advance so that you don't actually play the game
>Dude what if we made summons useless except for opening doors
>Dude what if instead of fun side quests we had only fetch/kill quests like in some generic MMO
>Dude what if instead of having fun side games like the motorcycle chase and Triple Triad we had nothing
>Dude what if we had really shitty music
>Dude what if we made the gameplay so shit that we need to rerelease the game THREE TIMES and change the gameplay THREE TIMES

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>it doesn't count because it's indie
Yikes

>moving the goal posts
So what, because wrpgs as a genre are inherently more niche than jrpgs, those examples don't count?

Also:
>Obsidian
>indie devs

>junpei's apologies are meaningless because he never actually stops being a dick.
Yeah, he does. He's not a dick after he says it in fact.
>he's the only one who turns it around on the mc, you know, the guy he's been jealous and resentful of from day one.
And he also learned that all of humanity was doomed, I think that's the more pressing fact
>ep is still better written than any of the hackshino games.
Highly disagree
>uh, yeah. gameplay is making decisions, exploring mt. iwato to find all the masks, actually interacting with the game.
Well then the gameplay is really shit and wastes time.
>which is why i specifically brought up p2is, not ep.
I think it's important to bring up EP, because even apart from everything else, almost all of the character development from IS disappears in EP

I just know they gave Skyrim, MGS5 and BOTW a 40, and thats enough for me to know they have horrible taste.

Well, it doesn't. The point of the image was that it implied all WRPGs are like this. IT's why I'm actively mocking you for bringing up some piddly indie games, some of which were kickstarted
The goalposts have been firmly in place, other people are trying to pretend like indie games are AAA WRPG titles

>I said they make garbage
Refer to

All turn based rpgs are shit

>mocking you for bringing up some piddly indie games
Not even that user, you fucking retard.

Except all those games deserved it.

>Refer to this post where everyone called me stupid

>The goalposts have been firmly in place, other people are trying to pretend like indie games are AAA WRPG titles
Persona is an AAA RPG now?

Also, Pathfinder, an adaptation of a popular tabletop RPG, is an indie game now?

Just how many menetal gymnastics are you willing to go to avoid admitting you're wrong?

The undeniable fact is that there are plenty of wrpgs, both in the AAA, AA and indie space that have a decently fleshed out dialogue system, whereas not a single jjrpg does.

The gameplay was fine. The mechanics needed tweaks. This during an era without patches. Every FF game is poor man's Star Wars. The only legit point from that list is the story being completely forgettable.

that post is pasta

Those three games are definitely 10/10 though, you're just a buttblasted boomer who can't handle the fact that New > Old

>The gameplay was fine.
Gameplay is garbage since there's no way to control party members outside of Gambits, at which point the game plays itself.

Compare FF12 to other real-time party-based RPGs like Baldur's Gate and it becomes painfully clear how primitive its gameplay is.

droomftards are mentally ill, just like trannies

>You may not have noticed, but everyone on this site is anonymous

P5 had an insall base of PS3 and PS4 and it still sold like ass in comparison.
Utterly pathetic.

You can control individual characters and their actions you dumb parrot

Damn I fucking love Rin.
She's been my waifu for nine years.

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>Persona is an AAA RPG now?
Yes? Do you know what AAA means?
>Also, Pathfinder, an adaptation of a popular tabletop RPG, is an indie game now?
Yes. It was kickstarted by an independent developer, are you retarded?
>Just how many menetal gymnastics are you willing to go to avoid admitting you're wrong?
Not nearly as much as you I guess? Did you look up any of these terms or examples?

Please post her penis.

>And he also learned that all of humanity was doomed, I think that's the more pressing fact
as did everyone else, which you keep ignoring. seeing as how everybody's scared of what's about to happen, but he's the only one who blames door-kun, there's clearly another reason for that. his raging inferiority complex, which he's supposedly "developed out of," has come right back in the face of adversity.
>Well then the gameplay is really shit and wastes time.
imagine arguing that gameplay is a waste of time in a game. the absolute state of p3fags.
>I think it's important to bring up EP, because even apart from everything else, almost all of the character development from IS disappears in EP
yeah, and there's a pretty obvious reason for that. it takes place in an alternate timeline where the events of p2is didn't happen and tatsuya is the only one who remembers them.

Best-selling title in the series

>You can control individual characters and their actions you dumb parrot
Not in any way that is remotely efficient or comfortable.

In Baldur's Gate, if an enemy is about to cast an AoE spell and your characters are clumped together, you can pause the game, order your characters to spread out and move in different directions, unpause and they will all move simultaneously.
You can't do this in FFXII. To move a character, you take control of them like you would in an action-RPG. It's impossible to move multiple characters simultaneously.

Another difference is how area of effect abilities are targeted. In BG they can be manually positioned anywhere, including on the ground. This is an important aspect of gameplay for several reasons. For starters, it lets you avoid the effects of friendly fire and prevent your own characters from being harmed by the AoE. It also lets you affect the battlefield. Many AoE abilities create long-lasting environmental hazards, so you might place them in a spot that is empty, in anticipation of enemies that will move there.
Again, you can't do this in FFXII. You can't freely target AoEs, they just snap to a target. Friendly fire is non-existent. Abilities that create environmental hazards or otherwise affect the battlefield likewise don't exist.

Lastly, party size. In BG, your party size consists of six characters + summons. You can have multiple creatures summoned at the same time, and you can all control them manually.
In FFXII the party size is three characters. Summons cannot fight alongside the party, instead they paradoxically make the party smaller by removing everyone but the summoner.

And yet, despite a smaller party and less tactical options, FFXII is the one that needs a gambit system to automate party behaviour because manual control is so cumbersome and tedious.

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Doesn't say much.

>Refer to this post where everyone could see how retarded I am

wut you talking about dawg Shonen shit is the most entry level to being a weeb. Harem animes used to be also back in the day with newgrounds flash games. Both the genres are shallow you can't tell me "In another world world with my cellphone". Is not shallow harem anime or vinland saga isn't your typical angsty teenager powers up and defeats baddies shonen shit

>as did everyone else, which you keep ignoring. seeing as how everybody's scared of what's about to happen, but he's the only one who blames door-kun, there's clearly another reason for that. his raging inferiority complex, which he's supposedly "developed out of," has come right back in the face of adversity.
That's your own interpretation of this. I just took from this scene that he was scared of dying, since it's one of the major themes of the game
>imagine arguing that gameplay is a waste of time in a game.
That particular aspect of P2's gameplay is, yes.
>yeah, and there's a pretty obvious reason for that. it takes place in an alternate timeline where the events of p2is didn't happen and tatsuya is the only one who remembers them.
Ok? All of the character development from P2 still goes out the window in EP. And there's not even that same development in EP.

I like how people are so dumb as to think a game that doesn't sell as much as your garden variety overbudgeted, ovetmarketed AAA is just a failure, as if success isn't at all relative to budget. Yeah, something like CoD or GTA sell 20+ million copies but they're also massive money sinks on the publisher's part, mostly because they know they'll make a solid profit. A lot of weeb games are much lower budget, they probably get away with a profit at 200k copies sold.

Also the Gambit system can't handle enemies that are immune to phys/magical attacks and debuffs.

Best-selling title Atlus has ever had, by around double

Doesn't say much, considering they spend almost a decade making the game.

>I like how people are so dumb as to think a game that doesn't sell as much as your garden variety overbudgeted, ovetmarketed AAA is just a failure, as if success isn't at all relative to budget. Yeah, something like CoD or GTA sell 20+ million copies but they're also massive money sinks on the publisher's part, mostly because they know they'll make a solid profit. A lot of weeb games are much lower budget, they probably get away with a profit at 200k copies sold.

Are you not aware that Persona 5 had a longer development team and a bigger team size than sprawling triple-A open-world RPGs?

No wonder Atlus' financial reports list losses year after year.

personacentral.com/atlus-financial-fiscal-year-2019/

>Atlus Reports Net Loss of 904 Million Yen for Fiscal Year Ended March 2019
>Atlus reported a net loss of 686 million yen for Fiscal Year Ended March 2018, and net loss of 570 million for Fiscal Year Ended March 2017.
>Atlus states that their sales target for the previous fiscal year were pleasantly exceeded, and that the company greatly contributed to the performance of the Sega Sammy Group.

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Paradoxically also one of the worst of their games in terms of story and gameplay.
Excluding other persona games of course.

are we posting rin cosplays in here?

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Based.

>>There was a character cut from launch
citation needed

you're so based, user

Maybe it's because Baldur's Gate is a top down RPG and FFXII isn't? Admittedly I haven't played much western party-based action RPGs, but IIRC even games like KOTOR(which FFXII seems to take inspiration from) doesn't give you control as you describe. This limitation isn't exclusive to FFXII when it comes to JRPGs, at least.

They didn't take close to a decade, even after having to restart production.

No wonder milking P5 happened so quickly compared to P4's kinda slow and eventually overwhelming rollout of spin offs and side material like two animes.

>Doesn't say much
P5 was called the best JRPG of the decade and there's been nothing but praise for it

>Shitlus thinking that milking the shitsona franchise will earn them more money so they can finally finish RE;Fantasy and SMTV in 2025

I disagree, and so do most reviewers seeing the glowing scores it got

It actually baffles me literally no crpg past Dragon Age Origins has decided to parrot the gambit system
In Pathfinder it could've made the buff routine so much simpler.

>Maybe it's because Baldur's Gate is a top down RPG and FFXII isn't?
Dragon Age: Origins is 3D and third-person and allows for all those things that Baldur's Gate does.

Atlus' losses may be attributed to basically every spinoff selling horrifically despite being based on the most popular entry in the franchise. People underestimate how incompetent they really are. I wonder what would happen if P5R failed to sell enough even though it probably will.

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No one thing happened. Xbox brought frat-boy dude-bros into gaming (they were coming anyway, MS was just at the ground floor). Marvel started making comic book movies that normies could watch. Anime and Manga spent decades creeping into the western main stream, and it happened so slowly no one really noticed it.

>Are you not aware that Persona 5 had a longer development team and a bigger team size than sprawling triple-A open-world RPGs?

I didn't know that Persona 5 took longer than the TEN YEARS that was took to make FFXV

>Those are all the Skyrim credits
Hey faggot, how about you don't lie
en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Credits

It's a sad thing that the only people who like P5 are complete normalfaggots who never even played a single, say, Etrian Odyssey, eh.

>the best JRPG
By people and game "journos" who only played 1 more jrpg in their entire life.

Not surprising considering how protracted P5's development was. Wasn't it initially slated for like 2014 or some shit?

>I wonder what would happen if P5R failed to sell enough
We can only hope...

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I wish it was last gen again when everyone knew japan made nothing but garbage and arent stupid enough to buy their garbage instead of ironic zoomer weebs today.

>actually caring about scores that "game journalists" give out

okay then user

>All those people who scored P5 well and called it great were normies!
I believe the term people are using nowadays is "cope"

Western games were even worse back then. Shit's been on a steep decline since around 2008.

>The game is bad despite the good scores, just trust me bruh
But that's way dumber, user

Why have Japanese games become popular recently?

>Wasn't it initially slated for like 2014 or some shit?
Yeah, Atlus thought they could do the same shtick like on ps2, but their devs are retards and incompetent and couldn't adapt to new gen.

Nobles would dye their hair in medieval Europe

That comparison image doesn't list logistics and localization publisher-related staff, which are actually far more numerous in Persona 5's case.

So good job on undermining your own argument?

To be fair though, Skyrim undoubtedly had a much larger MARKETING budget than Persona 5. But that's separate from development/production.

Coping is the only thing left to an exposed normalfag, i do agree with that.

ill never understand how can anyone claim x game has low budget without the company itself disclosing it

I liked the game too but don't kid yourself.
As far as normies are concerned P5 was the first game in the franchise. Just like it was with MGS5 and Witcher3.

>nips have to work multiple jobs
either that or people have same name

>decline since around 2008
Blame it on the great UE3 engine that made 95% of games look like brown shit.

>That comparison image doesn't list logistics and localization publisher-related staff,
Yeah, it doesn't list a bunch of shit. Like music, for example. Don't pretend like this is completely legit, that's one of the most dishonest images I've seen on Yea Forums

It's unironically better than X-2 which was the best GAME in the FF series for nearly a decade prior

>Only normies played it, that's why it got good scores
I'm sure you can find reviews from people who played the entire series and ranked it bad then
Also most of the reviews I saw at least played the nu Personas

because of the sudden, sharp, decline in quality from Western games

cope

Why are you talking like that about yourself, user?

Don't blame Sega for Atlus' greediness. Sega may own Atlus but they have basically no control over them as a condition of their buyout. It's why basically every other Sega IP has been ported to PC while Atlus still sticks religiously to Sony for no reason.

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I mean, you can go to Mobygames and check the credits for yourself. Persona 5 has like a billion people credited for those anime cutscenes alone.

mobygames.com/game/windows/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/credits

mobygames.com/game/playstation-4/persona-5/credits

That comparison image is actually being favorable to Persona 5 by only comparing core staff.

>I just assume that people only played P5 and no other Persona games
That seems like a stupid thing to assume though. Also P4G had the same thing said about it and yet it scored worse than P5. So did all those reviewers just... not return for P5?

>success

You sound like a /biz/ faggot. Are they good games? Why should we care that a lot of people are buying them?

okay but why do we not have a PC release yet???

they think japanese games are made off love
so of course japanese people don't care if they get a paycheck

doesn't stinkin nips don't want money for food and shelter! its not like they're human! jap insect just need to make vidya gaem for me!

120 hours game has 20 hours of cutscenes
wow

>Why should we care that a lot of people are buying them?
So they can make more of them?

>the best JRPG of the decade

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pc ports aren't easy or cheap to make, at least a well-optimized one

>blame it on something that had nothing to do with that

brainlet

>that persona cast
well i know where all the production money went

P5 was better, so was P4G

The Dark Souls of Persona games.

More of what? Are they good games?

New=old dumbass

yeah, but atlus is gonna get 2x whatever amount of money they spend on making the game work. how are they not abusing this cash cow?

GoW spawned the massive influx of cover shooters.

>want to play a Persona game
>can't stomach 80 hours of JRPG
Shame

they have no experience porting games to pc
thats not a guarantee

stop begging for ports

I know she's a Mexican cosplayer.
But she's so damn hot!

literally catherine?

>pc ports aren't easy or cheap to make
Yet even one-man indie developers can manage multiplatform releases just fine.

Pretty sure there was an interview with Sega where they said the Valkyria Chronicles port was literally done by 2 people.

The average time to complete Persona 5 is 96 hours and the game has 44 hours of cutscenes. That means that 46% of the "game" is spent in non-gameplay segments and that's not factoring in how many times you'll have to watch the same battle transition screens.

They just hired The Eccentric Ape to port Catherine and they did it fine despite the game being made for the autism that was PS3. There's no reason for there not to be a port other than Atlus' retardation.

they could always outsource it

aw shit 2 parts, i missed that

>can't stomach 80 hours of JRPG
Then why do you want to play Persona

That's not to mention the horrible combat system

If she has a nice body, cute face, and is pure on the inside, then the shorter the better.

>The average time to complete Persona 5 is 96 hours and the game has 44 hours of cutscenes. That means that 46% of the "game" is spent in non-gameplay segments and that's not factoring in how many times you'll have to watch the same battle transition screens.

>7 seconds from dungeon map to combat

>10 seconds from rewards screen back to the dungeon map

>15 seconds for full All-Out-Attack animation until back in the the dungeon map

It's safe to say that most of the 'play' time is spent watching rather than playing.

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Kek

I like the settings and the music. The character designs are also great.

kek

Ameture hour the game.

You will fucking hate the music by the end since it's repeated beyond measure

Then just play it. Put it on easy or whatever if you wanna finish it quicker

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if there's something we can all admit, regardless of our opinion about the game its that it has fantastic presentation and artstyle & OST

Speak for yourself, I'm still not sick of Last Surprise.

Apocalypse was better but P5 was better than both

You will wish the game was longer by the time you finish it. I spent 100 hours on it in my first play through and I was sad it was over and I wanted more. More good content is always a good thing in a game.

you think that's bad?

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This. Honestly Mass Destruction wore on me by the end but I liked Last Surprise the whole time

This.

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I just want Camelot to make another JRPG instead of continually pumping out Mario sports games. I'd take a Golden Sun remake or a Golden Sun prequel where you play as Babi and go on adventures as you try to take over the world because you discovered that psynergy is real and that you can become immortal though.

>you think that's bad?

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>cutscenes
43 of those hours have interactive dialogue and story telling, there’s very few cutscenes in the game.
Also it has over 50 hours of pure gameplay which is more than 99% of games out there, and that’s not even factoring in replay value and grinding to get all the personas and be max level. Most games wish they could provide 50 hours of pure gameplay content in a single casual playthrough of the game.

That doesn't change the fact that for $60 (when it released) you got a 52 hour long game on top of those 44 hours of cutscenes.
Whereas with a more linear PS exclusive like Uncharted, for the same launch price you get a 8-10 hour game with 2 hours of cutscenes and around an hour or so of "cinematic" walking and talking.

>have interactive dialogue and story telling
There is zero player agency in Persona 5's dialog or story.
>50 hours of pure gameplay
Refer to

I hate Persona 5 fags so much. Just because their game got of lot of praise, they are becoming cancer. Seriously, I get it, it's a good game, but the cancer you brought make Sonicfags look like saints.

They exist. They use anime picture avatars from shows they've never watched. Trannies make up alot of ironic weebs.

>This rushing a normal enemy and then not even stopping to see if I win surely proves that there is no gameplay in P5
Everyone made fun of you for that then too

So the irony lies in the fact that nothing about them is ironic? I don't get it.

Those menus are dangerous. I love how expressive Joker is in them.

>I came into this thread to inform everyone when the thread wasn't even specifically about P5
Obsessed

>Persona
>interactive dialogue and story telling

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Harem anime is absolutely garbage though. 12 episodes of the same shit over and over, they've cut down on them lately though now that the trend is moving to isekai.

You literally didn’t play the game. You choose what to say in all of the conversations, and for some reason you think doing rush mode on low level enemies like every other JRPG proves it has bad gameplay. Fuck off newfag.

Nice newfag filename.

>You choose what to say in all of the conversations
It literally changes nothing. No gameplay there.

You don't choose anything, all the dialogue amounts to basically the same thing its like fallout 4

Is it 100 hours of game or 100 hours of grind? I hate grinding.

Greentexting isn't an argument
>You don't choose what you can say
>Yes you can
>Ok you can but it doesn't change anything
Goalpost moving must be fun

>interactive dialogue
"Interactive" dialogue mostly apply to the confidant events and even then they merely dictate the amount of internal points you get towards the next rank. It's atrocious.
>50 hours of pure gameplay
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>all out
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>hit the weakness
>all out
Even PS1 era JRPGs had better gameplay.
Besides, if you actually think that 99% of modern vidya lacks in gameplay aspect you're some sort of an AAA shit eater. P5's gameplay is the worst even out of Atlus games. Things like Etrian Odyssey Nexus provide you with like 80 hours of pure gameplay with way deeper gameplay systems.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is unironically the best JRPG ever made.
Name a game with better exploration and world building - you can't. Now add to that the best video game soundtrack ever composed, god-tier art direction, a compelling story and an exciting battle system that, even if it gets repetitive later on, always makes you feel amazing when you finish all combos.
XC2 is the peak of gaming. Nia is the cutest character ever created too.

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>You choose what to say in all of the conversations
barely, it's all inane three-word responses that don't matter in the long run

You don't need to grind much at all.

>Ok there is some interactive dialogue but not that much
>Let me shift focus onto me complaining about the gameplay so it doesn't undermine how I admitted you're right

It literally changes the flow of conversation, and there’s tons of unique dialogue choices that evoke funny or shocked responses.

>but not that much
More like none at all.
You don't make actual decisions. At worst your dialogue choice will lead you to spend 1 more day leveling up the confidant arc. There's no real interactivity, no player agency.

It’s 100 hours of game. Persona has the least grinding in the series, in fact the game kind of discouraged grinding since it takes away from the days you can do other things. You can still grind if you want to as long as you get sp adhesives and conserve your sp a bit.

I bet you like manly games like Fallout 4 and Halo you manly man

the fuck is this? sauce?

It's more like 60 hours of cutscene and 20 hours of game.

>More like none at all.
I mean, you just openly admitted the opposite so this seems not true even by your own admission.
>"Interactive" dialogue mostly apply to the confidant events
>You don't make actual decisions.
Yes you do.
>At worst your dialogue choice will lead you to spend 1 more day leveling up the confidant arc.
So in other words you can make decisions that'll have a noticeable outcome.
>There's no real interactivity, no player agency.
So apart from all that player agency there's no player agency?

Kounai Shasei - 2
Use saucenao

>43 of those hours have interactive dialogue and story telling
Completely false. Refer to: Dark Souls with its yes/no responses has more interactive dialogue.

Because non-retards don't generalize entire genres by a screenshot of a joke question
Again, nobody is going to change their opinion of a game they like because of such low tier shitposting user, step your game up

1) Japanese games became good again after the shitshow that was the Wii/PS3/X360 era
2) PS4 (and now Switch) being successful and popular among the core gaming fanbase brought attention to formerly niche series like Persona, Xenoblade, Nier and so on
3) Mobile gaming is very hit-and-miss so companies are starting to go back to consoles and PC (look Cygames which is opening a console division after raking in cash from mobile)
4) Japan's declining gaming demography forces devs to think about international market, so more games are getting translated and released (Yakuza, Sakura Wars, all those very weeb stuff you find on Steam...)

The interactive dialogue affects the conversation and helps you progress better in links.
Have you literally never played a JRPG? First of all your straw man of the gameplay is retarded. There’s literally so many different attacks and aliments you can do in battle and it takes time to figure out weaknesses. If you’re playing on a harder difficulty the enemies can wipe you out if you’re not prepared with good personas, which is a huge chunk of the game with Persona fusion and customization, negotiating with the demons you fight and making the best use of them.
Most games do not provide you with more than 50 hours of gameplay on one playthrough, they require replaying and grinding and doing side objectives to come close to that, and a second playthrough of P5 adds another 50 hours and more if you’re going for the platinum.

>Yes you do.
No you don't. You can't change a thing in the story. You can't change a thing in your relationships with characters. Shit, confidant arcs don't impact the story whatsoever.
>a noticeable outcome.
If that's your definition of "noticeable outcome", never play in CRPGs. Ever.
>So apart from all that player agency
Where?

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i'm a p2chad, so i'm unbiased. from what i can see, the supposed "cancerous p5fags" are vastly outnumbered by all the people who still bitch and moan about p5 every day.

>So in other words you can make decisions that'll have a noticeable outcome.
Not him but are you retarded?
In persona the dialogue choices don't affect the end results, they're always the exact same no matter what you do. If I remember right they even removed reverses in 5 so there's even less variation.

>are vastly outnumbered by all the people who still bitch and moan about p5 every day.
Considering the SMT fanbase is only a fraction of the Persona one I would say otherwise.

>No you don't. You can't change a thing in the story.
Yes you do. You even directly admitted you make choices that affect the outcome of the game.
>At worst your dialogue choice will lead you to spend 1 more day leveling up the confidant arc.
So you do have choices, and they do have an impact. By your own admission, once again.
>You can't change a thing in your relationships with characters
You can choose to date someone or not
>Shit, confidant arcs don't impact the story whatsoever.
Except for the fact that those you maxed appear to help during Yaldy's speech
>If that's your definition of "noticeable outcome", never play in CRPGs. Ever.
I define "noticable outcome" as "an outcome that is noticable" Sorry I don't move goalposts to try defending my point like you
>Where?
Where you make all those choices that affect the game, like you admitted.

So you literally didn’t play the game. We already proved it has interactive dialogue retard, now go buy the game and play it before you talk out of your ass.
You literally can change the ending based off of your dialogue and change how much people like you.
Nice newfag filename by the way, newfag-kun.

>In persona the dialogue choices don't affect the end results
That isn't true, each game has a bad end in fact that you can get through making wrong choices. And you can choose to romance or not romance people.
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>through making wrong choices.
you'd have to be an actual honest-to-god retard to make the incorrect choice

This. P3/4fags are the real cancer. Honestly P1, P2, and P5 are the only true persona games. P3 and P4 feel like shitty low budget spinoffs.

>Moving goalposts
Bitch you just said
>In persona the dialogue choices don't affect the end results
And you were wrong, fuck off

>The interactive dialogue affects the conversation
Which doesn't affect anything, only an insignificant amount of fluff
>and helps you progress better in links.
You progress links regardless. You can't fail a link. You can't choose a way for link to develop. Nothing.
>Have you literally never played a JRPG?
I've played in a ridiculous shitton of JRPGs in my life and i can confidently say that in gameplay aspect P5 is one of the worst and most primitive JRPGs i've ever seen.
>There’s literally so many different attacks and aliments you can do in battle and it takes time to figure out weaknesses
It takes roughly two turns to figure out the weakness of any enemy at worst, after that you're good to go for any encounter with that enemy.
>If you’re playing on a harder difficulty the enemies can wipe you out if you’re not prepared with good personas
Nothing changes on harder difficulties as far as general "tactic" goes. At worst some enemies can survive the all-out, but oh what are we going to do? More all outs!
> Persona fusion and customization, negotiating with the demons you fight
All done way, WAY better by any competent SMT entry.
>Most games do not provide you with more than 50 hours of gameplay on one playthrough
There's a shitload of games that provide you with better 50 hours of gameplay even among JRPGs, let alone games in their entirety.

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They have a noticeable outcome. Days are limited, as are opportunities to rank up your confidants, who grant useful skills at higher difficulties. They aren't just there for the hell of it.

>implying I'm the other user
a choice even a downie could handle in the last act of the game really isn't helping out player agency. If you
>killed Ryoji
>suspected anyone besides Adachi
>took Yalda's offer
then you're a literal retard

>muh weakness abuse
you mean the thing that almost fully disappears by the midpoint?
It's almost like all these shitposters don't play these games beyond the first 2 hours yet proceed to act like they know everything

Okay so you are retarded.
No they don't, that "bad end" in Persona isn't a bad end like they are in games like say SMT or even Fallout, it's a halt to your progression more along the lines of not getting the emeralds in Sonic.

>You progress links regardless. You can't fail a link.
Yes but it helps you level it faster, which was the point of what he said.
>You can't choose a way for link to develop.
You can choose to date or not date someone
>All done way, WAY better by any competent SMT entry.
Ok this is just bullshit. Seriously, name a title that has better fusion besides maybe P4G

because they have no rpg competence from the west

>And you can choose to romance or not romance people.
Literally changes nothing. When people talk about choice they mean story changing choices that could set you down a different path, Persona has never had that. Picking the wrong answers just gives you a premature game over.

>you mean the thing that almost fully disappears by the midpoint?
It never disappears. If enemy doesn't have a weakness (which is at worst 1-2 enemies per dungeon) you always have crits. Strategy never changes.

>Why are anime games having so much success?
That's nothing, wait for The Lesbian of Us 2 numbers

>You progress links regardless
sure but this a game with a time limit. failing to increase a link as much as possible means that you wasted a valuable time slot and will have to waste more time slots in the future.

>you mean the thing that almost fully disappears by the midpoint?
If anything it gets worse at that point. Not to mention by then you'll have access to almighty attacks that no one can block.

>You literally can change the ending based off of your dialogue
How is that meaningful in any way? That doesn't affect the game, an ending occurs AFTER the game.

How does a different 5 minute cutscene at the end of a 100+ hour game have any significant effect on how you experience that game?

A game has true interactivity when instead of just getting a different ending, you can play the game in a different way. The original Fallout is an example of a highly interactive RPG: every location in the game is accessible from the start and you can tackle everything in the game (including the final boss) with combat, stealth or diplomacy, or a combination of these. Deus Ex is another example: while it has a linear mission structure, it lets you tackle those missions in an enormous variety of ways.

And most of those endings in Persona 5 aren't really endings, they're just non-standard game overs.

Are the standards of Persona 5 fans really this low that they think something as basic as multiple endings is a notable example of interacivity?

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anime games aren't successful now because the Japs are good, it's because the West is so shit now that anything else looks good in comparison. A bunch of polacks are being touted as the saviours of video games, shouldn't that tell you something?

You just admitted that it does affect things, now you’re moving the goalposts and coping by saying it’s shit.
You have to repeatedly hang out with a person to make them like you more if you don’t choose the right options, this affects gameplay and your relationship with them.
You literally haven’t played JRPGs if you think P5’s deep combat system is primitive.
No it doesn’t take two turns to figure out a weakness, that’s only two guesses out of the 10 elements in the game and there’s ailments on top of that and persona negotiations, changing equipment, hitting one enemy or multiple enemies, instant kills, and much more.
The enemies can wipe you out on harder difficulties because crits do way more damage so if they hit your weakness first you’re done.
>it’s a regarded SMTfag
Don’t make me laugh. Persona 5 has a better fusion and negotiation system than any SMT game other than IV, and IV only beats it in fusions. The rest of them don’t let you choose which skills you want, and the negotiation is just random with shit dialogue choices.
There’s barely any games that give you more than 50 hours of gameplay in a single playthrough.

bro you guys have been at it going around in circles for like 50 years you look actually autistic let's just agree to disagree

Anyone who has played any MegaTen game knows almighty is shit.

>No they don't, that "bad end" in Persona isn't a bad end like they are in games like say SMT or even Fallout
What? Are you just saying "That bad end doesn't count because I said so?" Fuck off

>You have to repeatedly hang out with a person to make them like you more if you don’t choose the right options, this affects gameplay and your relationship with them.
Are you an idiot?
It's not affecting your relationship with them in the slightest. If you act like an asshole they still give you the same dialogue in the next link and if you act like a saint you still get the same dialogue. All it changes is how fast you reach it which is insignificant.

>i'm a p2chad, so i'm unbiased
Fuck off

>almighty attacks
that do fuckall damage and eat up SP like crazy

>When people talk about choice they mean story changing choices that could set you down a different path, Persona has never had that. Picking the wrong answers just gives you a premature game over.
So story changing choices that set you down a different path are what people mean
But Persona's bad endings don't count"just because"
Ok

Fallout has multiple equally valid endings, so does SMT
Persona has good ending, bad ending, and really bad ending

>it’s a wrpgfag
Those games are boring as fuck, nobody cares about interactivity when the game itself is overrated garbage.

>"That bad end doesn't count because I said so?"
No? I'm saying it doesn't count because it's not even a real bad end. It's the same thing you'll see on the good end just stopped prematurely.

>How is that meaningful in any way?
This doesn't exactly explain how it's not meaningful, user
>A game has true interactivity when instead of just getting a different ending, you can play the game in a different way.
This is just literally your own personal definition of the term, user.
>And most of those endings in Persona 5 aren't really endings, they're just non-standard game overs.
A non-standard game-over? You mean an ENDING for the game?
Jesus the amount of goalpost moving is impressive

>But Persona's bad endings don't count"just because"
They don't count because they don't change the story. In fact most of them just give you a restart and tell you that you've fucked up. Like that other user said it's more like Sonic than an actual bad end.

zoom zoom zoom.

>Persona has good ending, bad ending, and really bad ending
But Persona 3 and 4 each had multiple endings of various descriptions. Also I like how 3 endings doesn't count as "multiple"somehow

>Almighty
>shit
>in Persona of all games
Wow, I knew you guys sucked but this is a whole new level. Did you put it on a physical demon or something?

>They don't count because they don't change the story.
Uh, yes they do. They directly change how the story concludes.
>In fact most of them just give you a restart and tell you that you've fucked up
The final one where you sell out your teammates doesn't
>Like that other user said it's more like Sonic than an actual bad end.
It sounds like an actual bad end to me. Also most games with bad endings let you continue

compare that to SMT SJR that had
>Law
>Neutral
>Chaos
>New Law
>New Neutral
>New Chaos
Or Fallout NV, that had 4 major endings with variations by karma, and then dozens of minor endings with variations depending on your actions during the questlines

SMT literally has the same 3 endings in every game retard. Nocturne just changes the names of them. Don’t pretend you’re special because you think you’re the only person who’s played SMT.
They affect gameplay because this is a time based game and losing out on points and days is slowing down your progression and lowering the amount of things you can do, you are essentially losing in a confidant if you repeatedly fail to advance the link.

P4G had more endings than SJR, so I guess it's automatically better than both of those

Why don't more games have this play-doh esque rendering style?
I really like it.

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You absolute retard. Play more SMT and Persona games. Almighty costs way more than the average skill and consistently does less damage. Doing a regular skill is always better.

They do change the story.

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how did right wingers got more fragile than SJW
just let peopel make shit why gotta be a bitch about evertyhing

No, no, letting all your friends stay locked up forever and letting humanity fall to darkness is the same as freeing everyone, it's the same bro

alright, we have
>game over 1
>game over 2
>game over 3
>complete fucking brainlet ending
>the real ending (and fucking Marie)

Yeah no they don't. Especially not in P5 where it essentially just cuts the end chunk out and gives you a try again speech.

gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/641695-persona-4-golden/69817462
There are 7 endings in P4G

>Also most games with bad endings let you continue
What games have you been playing? Most games with significant story altering bad ends are definite. There's no going back short of a restart.

>ending ends the game
>that doesn’t count as an ending!!!

This doesn't even count the other "bad ends" when you simply don't rescue people in time. With those added it's more like 12

Do you really not understand the difference between an ending and a game over?

>play game
>gets shit kicked out of you by first boss
>it ends the game
good ending, totally counts

No shit the accomplice ending cuts you off from the true ending.

Every visual novel ever with bad endings I've played has this

Each of them is framed as an ending, sorry P4G has more endings than your favorite game

>game literally changes what happens and then ends outside of combat gameplay
>not an ending

>ending ends the game
>that doesn’t count as an ending!!!
By that logic, a game over screen is also an ending.
Nobody has ever considered non-standard game overs as endings, you retard.
By your logic, Sierra adventure games have thousands of different endings becuase they wrote unique dialogue for each different way you could lose the game.

>game tells you that you clearly fucked up, try again dipshit
>totally counts