WELCOME TO SUPER VEGETA'S BIG BANG ATTACK

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why are DBZ games so trash now?

OH NO!

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Because they shit them out on a yearly basis and retards buy them no matter how last they are

I am your host, Alex Trebek.

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Can I get uhhhhhhhhh

Is that the line?
I always heard it as "Welcome, tester of Vegeta's 'Big Bang Attack!'"

IT'S THE BIGGIE

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THE SAIYANS ARE A TRUE WARRIOR RACE

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In my defense, the game had bad audio mixing.
Can't hear shit over the sound effects and music when playing through a tv.

user.. I could understand what he was saying when I was 10 years old. Maybe you're autistic?

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SATURDAY CRUSH
DOUBLE SUNDAY

Used to get so many blisters from when you had to wiggle the analog for ultimates.

>not being able to hear something well over loud noises is now autism
Somehow I feel like that's the opposite.

>DBZ games will never have soul like Budokai 3 and tenkaichi 3 ever again
Bros idk if I can go on like this

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God, I fucking hate how Goten and Trunks are now like, 12 and 13, respectively, yet they STILL LOOK LIKE THEY'RE 7 AND 8. Change their fucking designs, Toei. You bothered with History of Trunks, why not here?

YOU DO WELL HA HA HA YOU DO WELL

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I'll send you to the next world with this...

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Budokai 3 with some cleaning up of the models and more characters would be great. They refined the fuck outta Budokai. Dragon World in 2 was legit fun though.

Ah the old days when you were the strongest SS4 gogeta, not canonically, but you were the peak all the same.

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OKAY PLANET GIVE ME THAT STUPID ENERGY

I actually love the lines in the budokais and tenkaichis

>those giant ass hands
every time

Dragon World sucked ass. Budokai 1 had the best story mode in any DBZ game.

DROP DEAD

It was legit terrifying when Buu was on the map absorbing everyone, especially if you lost to him

Too bad Budokai 1 sucked ass everywhere else, Dragon World is still better in my opinion. 3 could have been more like 1with stry and maybe I would just say 3 takes it all.

That game's story mode was fun, I don't know why. Maybe cause it was semi "what if" mixed with the normal story.

Budokai 1 remade with budokai 3's graphics and gameplay would be literal perfection.

Because it ends with cell

But Super Saiyan 3 is cool, also no their fucking system for forms is ass. Much like 2's. 3 with 1's story is perfection. With or without Buu. I don't hate Buu, despite the large hatred for it.

Oh you said with 3's gameplay, my bad.

All I know is that a tenkaichi 3 HD remake is all I'd need for the rest of my life. If dbs characters were to be added to it, I really wouldn't complain

I wanna see Budokai 3 though. Then we can worry about Tenkaichi 3. Also honestly I don't hate Raging Blast 1 or 2's graphics or even XV 1 or 2's. The gameplay of the former is better than the latter. Especially XV2. Fucking stamina bars in a DBZ game of all things.

Budokai already got it's hd remake, even though it's not all that great. It's time for tenkaichi to rise from the grave

Tenkaichi is soulless

Xenoverses graphics are weird and I can't get behind it. If it had fighterz graphics then I'd have a lot more fun I feel

Tenkaichi 1 is soulless, but it's opening is kino. Tenkaichi 3s open is soulless but the game is kino

The stamina bars in xenoverse 2 are bullshit but if you use dodoria's super soul and wear some gear that gives better stamina it makes it much more manageable.

Maybe. FighterZ is a 3D 2D style game. I like that about it.

Budokai 3's was not proper in any way and I don't accept it. Its also not just a HD remaster, I want an overhaul of graphics and if need be animations.

Because that's actually canon, dipshit. Saiyans age differently, Goku didn't grow up to look like a Teen until he was 17.
Gohan looked like a manlet at 14

TIMES ONE HUNDRED

I mean I'd rather dump a bunch into stam and equip a good QQ bang. QQ bangs work at 4x the effectiveness of clothes so a full 5 arrows on a QQ bang is like 4 pieces of clothing with 5 arrows each. Dumping into stam is useful as you can stop with normal attack at like 75, though blasts go to 124 and then 125 is a point wasted. I still wish they weren't there I hate them but my male saiyan has the stamina of a god damn bull.

>14
Are you referring to cell games Gohan? Because he was definitely like 11-12, iforget which

The time spent in the hyperbolic time chamber aged him up though. I'd say base 13 since its always called "teen"

WELCOME TO OBLIVIAN!

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ERASER GUN

"welcome to super vegetas big bang attack" is what he says

They changed that, hes referred to teen in the majin Buu saga now. He aged 1 year faster in the time chamber making him 11 instead of 10

Is he referred to that in the games? I don't disagree I just notice in the games that cell games gohan is still teen.

MILKY CANNON

As of recent most games refer to him as kid, especially in Dokkan which I know for sure

Sorry meant youth*

RECOOOME! ULTRA...FIGHTING BOMBERRRRR!

Also RECOOOOOOME KICK!

HE HE HE,
NOW I'LL FINISH YOU!

>actually don't remember the exact quote but was along those lines..

>Because they shit them out on a yearly basis
Not really.

He look like he fuck green guys

MILKYCANNON

>LET'S SEE YOU SURVIVE THIS ONE

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There's no fun in the current games.

Everyone should say welcome to "adjective" "character name's" "special attack name" for their super attack.

I always misheard the Great Saiyaman as yelling "EEEAT VENISON!" with some attacks. Still dunno but I guess it could be "BEEE PENITENT!"

>If dbs characters were to be added to it, I really wouldn't complain
I mean, they could do that because of Heroes.

BEAT IT PUNK

I loved how Vegeta was better than Goku in Budokai 3.
>fewer transformations (no Kaioken or SSJ3)
>more slots for health or energy
felt good man

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Fucking Gokule's only appearance

>He aged 1 year faster in the time chamber
Just a reminder they didn't spend a full year in the time chamber.

BIG BANG..

kys

A day is equivalent to a year isn't it?

I feel like Goku plays better in Tenkaichi series because it articulates his multitude of techniques.

Yeah but they didn't stay for an entire day

Why won't these games give Gohan the Cape with Piccolo's Gi?

ALRIGHT PLANET
GIVE ME THAT STUPID ENERGY

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IF I DON'T DO IT, THEN WHO WILL?!

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My power's rising. I'm INVINCIBLE

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Why does Broly look so good in Budokai 3, but looks like shit in other games?

When I was a kid, the anime in my country had only aired up to around the time when Trunks first showed up. This game was my introduction to Cell. He was so cool.

I was playing one of the Budokai's with friends a decade or so ago, they're all relatively big into fighting games AND dragonball. I like dragonball but also happen to be dogshit at fighting games, so usually I'll take a few early turns and accept my role as basically warmup fucking practice for the others.

Except one fucking time
>Pick a lineup of chiaotzu, piccolo (who I was the only one in this particular game capable of playing reasonably), Nappa, and I think Yamcha and Vegeta. There's a reason I can't remember that far in.
>Friend picks Frieza, Vegeta, Yamcha, Piccolo, Chiaotzu
>Dares me to open with Goodbye mr Tien
>I do
>Proceed to somehow absolutely fucking body his whole team with no health. Disgraceful and disrespectfully.

It was like for a brief moment I was touched by the greasy fightstick hand of god. It didn't fucking last though.

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>brown haired Vegeta
Those were the days. Also best Potara fusion scene in the series.

YOU BEST GIVE UP!
BEGONE!

BEHOLD! THE LORD AND MASTER OF ALL SEVEN DRAGONS!

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>tfw my mom walked in when vegeta said "EAT THIS" and I got in trouble

I hope to see you again someday, LATER!

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Which has the best opening and why is Budokai 3?
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>Hahahaha! Not even a scratch!
>is actually covered in scratches
What did Omega Shenron mean by this?

that his balls weren't scratched

>You were awesome! Can't wait to see what you'll do next time!

That had broly and gogeta fighting in the opening right. Foreshadowing DBS Broly by over a decade.

I never understood this one

BARKAN JOY MILLIAN!

TARGET SIGHTED
FIRE
NICE SHOT

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>Yamcha challenges Vegeta to a fight in the tournament arena
>wins
Was this the most awesome moment in Budokai 3? I think so.

Broly and Gogeta fighting in Budokai 3 had more soul than the entire DBS Movie.

It's from the Wrath of The Dragon movie, he says it when he Dragon Fists Hiredugarn. Essentially it was like the last thing he ever did before Super, Hirudegarn was a beast.

Oh god he hit me in the nostalgia balls

I honestly wished we had Wrath of the Dragon-Janemba movie Goku over the one in Super.

Huh?

Isn't Raging Blast just a reboot of Tenkaichi?

>Tenkaichi 1
Fuck oozaru vegeta.

Fuck no transformations and super armor you mean.

pretty much, same with Burst Limit being a Budokai reboot

It'll be a sad day when even my own kid can beat me!

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Goku in the Dragonball Movies is written much better than he is in Super.

I'M GONNA BLOW YOU TO BITS!

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In a way, it did play a little differently. With how supers were done. Looked nice.

Bardock honestly played better in Tenkaichi, but like shit in Xenoverse

Not really.

>Majin Buu, I know now what I have to do
>I'm going to blow you to smithereens, and scatter the ashes to the wind! I do this for Trunks, Bulma and yes, even for you Kakarot!

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I'll blow you away, this ends now!

oh yes, and what did he says after ? something like
>fight me AHHHHHHHHHHHH
or maybe..
>bite me AHHHHHHHHHH
?...

I like him in XV2 but I just like bardock.

>God Goku had blue hair instead of being a transcendent being whose every punch is a city-consuming Dragon Fist

Budokai had the best OST
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Right now, there's nothing I can't do.

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>instead of being a transcendent being
I don't know, something like that seems kind of over the top for even dragonball.

Dragon Fist Goku would've actually killed or harmed Beerus.

OKAY PLANET, GIVE ME THAT STUPID ENERGY

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I mean considering the fuckery even early anime, it'd be a solar system ending punch every time.

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I think he means Transcendent more closer to Bhuddism's idea.

I know it was all stolen but I heavily associate DBZ music with Budokai rather than either English or Japanese music tracks

I just love the line and how quick he spits it out. I also love the voice actor's name. Dartanian Nickleback.

best dbz games?

Budokai and Budokai Tenkaichi games were peak soul

Cell Arc could've been kino if he actually used the Spirit Bomb to kill Goku and Gohan.

I still love High and Scream from either Tenkaichi 2 or 3.

>implying GO BROLY GO GO
isn't soulful as fuck

Super DBZ

DBZ is better in English with Faulconer music.

This is objectively wrong.

The OST was good but Gogeta's characterization was fucking trash. Literally a Vegetto rip off instead of the no bullshit man. In the movie against Janeba he was so otherworldly with his different techniques and sparkly aura.

>Because they shit them out on a yearly basis
>Last notable release was Fighterz last year
>Xenoverse 2 still trucking along after 3 years

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I dislike that game. Just the stupid movement bars. I liked decking mecha freiza out with like mines on his tail and shit. Also chichi's special outfit

Budokai 3 was amazing.

Played through it with a buddy and we still have the memory card.
Getting the last 5% was a real hassle.

Never understood why people liked the Tenkaichi series though. Compared to regular Budokai it just felt like a step back in gameplay and focus more on fanservice

>Not 3
Plagarism be damned that shit was good
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I love the animation for the Spirit Breaker.

I just like Super Survivor too much. BT3 also had Gogeta x Broly and looking back it looks a lot like proto Raging Blast
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Budokai 3 literally has the best and most hype opening movie ever made.

>Literally a Vegetto rip off instead of the no bullshit man
You're joking right?
Aside from the name thing he jumped right into the action with no jokes whatsoever and was about to kill Broly no questions asked despite Goku seeing he was a fairly kind-hearted Saiyan.

Even though GT haters will shit on the omega shenron and SS4 appearances. SS4 is so fucking cool.

Think he meant Janemba movie Gogeta. Fusion Reborn.

goku's shadow on the cloud is just pure nostalgia goodness for me.

the whole game is my prime example when I ever tell someone they dont make em like they used to anymore, but the opening is just on another level in that regard

He's saying that Gogeta in Super wasn't particularly serious like Vegeto despite the fact that he was serious in both the Super manga and anime. The only time he wasn't was when he was trying to bait Buu and even then most of that came from anime filler. but he's basing that on the name thing and the fact that there was a fight instead of Gogeta just instantly eliminating him.

>Compared to regular Budokai it just felt like a step back in gameplay and focus more on fanservice
You literally understand then. It's Smash Bros to Budokai's Tekken

Tenkaichi 2 had a miles better OST than 3 (Why do people like 3 over 2 anyway?)
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2 had a better story and a better OST. But I still prefer 3 because of the better gameplay and character selection.

Brainlets don't understand that for a good while, Omega Shenron was the endgame boss of Dragonball.

Aho~

High and Scream is awesome though. Its the best track from 3. Put it in 2 and I'd be down with that.

Kind of funny how Omega is now one of the weakest antagonists along with Cell.

>soul
Quantify this in words

They always lean on "not canon, not canon!" But he's a great last boss. I liked finding the way to get to him in Goku's story. Shit was always hidden around in that story mode which I like it for.

the best dbz game just released a year ago retard

Nostalgia

I will always love GT more than Super and Cell more than Freiza.

Omega is just the Doomsday of DBZ.

>the ending where he transform into SSJ4 with the Guitar playing in the background
Literal Kino
I'm bias to GT Final Bouts opening though I think the song is too damn good

*enters bread*
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>But he's a great last boss.
Eh, I mean, thematically the idea of an evil dragon could be interesting but they'd need to make some serious adjustments to how the dragonballs work to justify an entire story around it.

>get Budokai 3 from a friend
>he'd never gotten to the Cooler, Uub, Gogeta or Omega Shenron parts of the story
>never unlocked Broly
>kept saying the cover lied because none of the things shown on it appear in the game
I was so smug when I got to fight Cooler on Namek.

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Infinite world> bt3

They kinda did. The negative energy from selfless wishes accumulate when used too much and births Evil Dragons. Except Nova, he came from King Piccolo's wish for youth. Syn/Omega came from restoring Namek and its people.

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Was saibaman unlockable? I don't think it was. But yeah I got all that shit. You gotta look around. It was actually a game with special unlockables not spoon fed to you. You could even fight Broly as Ultimate Gohan (In Goku's gi) I think.

No I mean what would stop the dragons from losing power if Dende died or even stopped supplying energy to the balls?

Saibaman and Cell Jr. were both possible but they were RNG in the one arena game mode so I never got them.

>GT KILLED THE SERIES HURR
Is that why Pan, Omega and SSJ4 made regular appearances in the games starting with Budokai 3 onward? If GT was that awful, why acknowledge those characters? Dragon Ball games couldn't be any better with Super adding characters and mixing them with GT. I want to see Omega and Beerus fight one another or pic related. Acknowledging the movie/GT characters made these games fun and interesting, it's bad enough they follow the same format with every game.
>Saiyan-Freeza-Cell-Buu-Everything else
It was getting old then.

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That's a big hole but I'd assume they wouldn't be affected cause the black star ones are different than the red star ones and not tied to Dende. I'm not sure but I do know Black Star ones scatter across the universe not just earth or namek.

I never knew how to get the arena mode to open. So yeah I never got them either. I never knew how.

>black star ones
Shadow Dragons were the corrupted red star ones. The black stars are a whole different matter.

With SS4 as it is, Blue stomps unfortunately unless it gets a (deserved) buff. Even if it was the same Super goku and vegeta doing both. SS4 got way more style though.

I honestly can't remember either. I looked it up online that you unlock Saibamen by having Nappa attack you in the arena and Cell Jr. was probably Cell, but neither of them ever did so...

>gets beat by a little girl robot

doc where is my daily dose?

Oh yeah the balls turned blue with black stars but were red. I dunno then but maybe they aren't reliant on Dende, maybe they supply them with their own power. Interesting plot development if the Evil Dragons kidnapped and tried to keep Dende hostage though.

Thanks doc

Honestly I feel like it would have been better if Dende had been corrupted and powered up kind of like a call back to King Piccolo.

I just never got the arena. I didn't know how. Was it like a whole mode? Don't really care as I got Broly, Omega, SS4 Goku and Vegeta and Cooler.

I'm reminded of the days where kids would pick SSJ4 Gogeta and people would beat them with the Saibaman or any weak character. Good times.

Omega Shenron is the embodiment of the hero's selfless desires to use the Dragonballs for good made evil by the negative energy it stored.

It was, you had Commander Red talking shit at you and then you'd go into random areas for fights and the RNG might sometime have a character you weren't intended to fight invade an you'd fight them instead.
I don't remember how it was unlocked though.

It would have been cool but I guess there was no need? The Dragons wouldn't kill Dende first if he was needed and if push came to shove, just kidnap him. Or corrupt him. It all also happens over like a day or two so, not much time to let things play out those dragons were immediately off to fuck shit up.

Budokai handled it better by making SS4 a form that adult Goku can reach.It's him at full power.

I heard it had to do with clearing all stories except broly's, but that just might have been bullshit.

Say whatever you want, FighterZ may be a good competitive fighting game but it's a horrible Dragon Ball game. These games were infinitely funnier to play with friends at your house.

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DOC I NEED MY DOSE

Canonically (in GT anyway) they state it is OozaruxSuper Saiyan, so 500x base. Which isn't even enough to close any gap with Beerus. SSG should have been SS4 and SSGSS should be the scarlet hair version like Gogeta. Shows a better connection to their heritage and it ties back even to DB with Goku being the Monkey King. So instead of SSB vs SS4, it just replaces it.

I didn't play Tenkaichi much so I forget. Did it have a similar set up to Budokai where you only had so many slots for moves/health/etc?

reminder that the budokai games were the absolute apex of dragonball fight games until tenkaichi ruined everything

No it had set slots for supers and shit but in 2 (and dumbed down in 3) there were stats and levels. 18's Kiss was the single best item in 2.

>SSG should have been SS4
Eh.

It looks better and fits the race better. Just keep the aura. And the next up can mix the red with super saiyan gold. And the scarlet hair. Palette swap to blue is just boring.

by the time Blue was out the single strongest attack in the series was Vegeta's Final Flash on Cell (word of Toriyama) SS4 would be weaker but not a complete stomp

Tenkaichi had freedom, it actually felt like DBZ. You could fly around and spam energy attacks, crash through buildings, and do dragon rush stuff. Budokai series was street fighter with simplified combos and a DBZ skin.

I can get down with that. One thing I liked in Z was that the Saiyans did feel like non-humans from their appetites to their tails and overwhelming strength. Compare Vegeta then to Vegeta now. You could say he's a human and nothing would change. Early Vegeta was unsettling with how he could easily kill most of the cast in a heartbeat if he wanted to. Vegeta today is just that grouchy husband of Bulma's.

Not that I'm taking away from his development but it shows how far he's come.

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>It looks better and fits the race better.
As a different great ape evolution kind of if the fur was brown but not as an SS form.

So Final Flash was greater than or at least a Solar System level attack? I can only hope that SS4 could get the credit it deserves. As it is it stopped a while back and has not gotten any confirmations of being that viable.

DOC WHERE THE FUCK IS MY DAILY DOSE

>big bang attack
>doesnt create a universe
lame

Yeah it'd be red fur and black hair, SSG. Then dark brownish fur with scarlet hair. Not gold. Just a gold and red aura mix with the SSGSS level. Something like that.

I dunno though. I'll never accept Blue fully.

>Never understood why people liked the Tenkaichi series though.
>never understood why people liked to simulate DBZ

Pure kino if you ask me.

Has anyone modded Budokai 3 or Infinite World with Heroes characters yet?

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STRUGGLE ALL YOU WANT IN THE END YOU'LL STILL KYEEE

HEY VEGETA DO YOU THINK MY GOATEE WOULD TURN GOLD IF I WENT SUPER SAIYAN?

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Xenoverse 2 confirms that yes it does.

I liked BT3 for the chasing mechanic across the battlefield more than Budokai 3. And XV2 graphics sucks for in-game, the opening cutscene was fine but not the rest.

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>Xenoverse 2
Heroes you mean.

It's also a thing in XV2 if you have Nappa as your mentor and give him Super Saiyan ability to transform.

These tracks give me life.

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I like B model.

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Based, this was the best Gohan

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>the cape would fit him now
>doesn't ever get it
At the very least purple looks better on him than orange

Dragon Ball from the start to end of Freeza saga is honestly amazing, and yeah, I prefer short, stocky, and evil Vegeta as well.

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He looks great in DBFZ

>literally a Monstar straight out of Space Jam

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I don't think that worked...

That'llneverwork

Garlic Jr. came first with a big time gap
>Dead Zone: 15 July 1989
>Space Jam: 21 February 1997

WE SAIYANS ARE A TRUE WARRIOR RACE
DON'TUNDERESTIMATEU-ooh

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>Crashes the economy

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>Never uses his ult

LETMESHOWYOUMYTRUEPOWER

>mfw

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BITE MEEEE!

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>Double Sunday
>Saturday Crush
>Dynamite Monday
>Weekly Special
>Exciting Year

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BITE ME! WAOUGH

BIGGU BANG ATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

WAH WOAH WUH WAH-WAH WOAH WUH WAH WAH WOAH WUH WAH- WAH WOAH WAH
OVER HERE
WAH

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I think they add in new ones in XV2 called Shining Friday and Vacation Delete but I dunno if the latter is his move.

They're half-saiyans though
Gohan had a pretty normal ageing processes, meanwhile Trunks and Goten look exactly the same as they did when they were introduced

>Keeps his imperfect voice in battle

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Tenkaichi 3'so opening is fucking HYPE the fuck are you smoking? Gogeta fighting Broly was the cleanest shit i'd ever seen as a kid

You wanna fight me?

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You got the first letter right.

That's Budokai 3

I AM REBORN WITNESS MY TRUE POWER!

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SURVIVOR YOU ARE THE SURVIVOR

That's sweet, I think she'll be your friend if you ask nicely.

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YES, EVERYONE OF MY RACE CAN BECOME A GIANT GORILLA

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HERE GOES

KA ME....HA ME HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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AH! IT'S BIG GREEN!

Skank.

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I used to fap so much to her when I was younger.

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Bandai Namco. They basically turned licensed game adaptations of big anime into a shitfest of recycled sequels, gradual loss of significant effort, and spending as little budget as possible to pull over a profit off of brand recognition.

y-you think so?

Thankfully Dragon Ball FighterZ became a thing, but even that game's starting to get a lack of good attention.

Fasha/Seripa needs an Heroes version with SS, even Raditz has it.

They're pretty much jumping ship and focusing on the RPG game.

Sorry Mr.Vegeta, but i still can't let you ride this rollercoaster, your hair don't count.

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Which looks pretty, sure, but when you actually look at the gameplay, you're basically getting giant empty spaces to level and do mini-events in and are saddled with a combat system that makes Xenoverse 2 look complex by comparison. It fucking sells on fanservice and little else.

Legacy of Goku 2 came out 16 years ago user

youtube.com/watch?v=7fxt0_NCvEU
I saw it and i noticed that they gave Piccolo the hyper explosive demon wave, but i also noticed you can easily defeat them by abusing the special beam cannon.
they censored naked gohan, but that was to be expected

For now we know its going to cover the saiyan saga to frieza saga, its not known if the cell saga will be in and likely the filler/anime/movies portions will be not in.

Best girl.

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Holy fuck, this is the same as fucking Xenoverse, isn't it?
Look at the dash attacks, the characters' animations when they fly back, the sheer amount of flying back alone, the command deck.
At least the graphics are infinitely improved but this is just the same fucking game.

I'LL BEAT YOU TO DEATH

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Yes, its due to exactly what said.

BALLS

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That's not Videl

She's second best girl.

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YOU CAN'T DODGE THIS

I fucking hate the soul/souless meme so much but why does the earlier games Budokai and Tenkaichi feels so charming?

I still get chills from Budokai 1's story mode.
ITS OVERRR FRIEZAAAAAAA

Don't play stupid with me, wanker!

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>they gave Piccolo the hyper explosive demon wave

Seeing that, Eighter making an appearance along with Goku fishing, makes me wish they had this game go through the Pilaf saga to end of Freeza saga. It feels weird to have a game named after Goku, when most of his development occurs in the Dragon Ball portion of the story.

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I also wished they covered like the Garlic Jr. event [i know its located as the same period as Raditz arrival in an alternative time] before Raditz with Goku exploring his palace, but its def. not gonna happen.

The voice actors and developers weren't as burnt out back then. Dragon Ball games went on a hiatus after Final Bout, so by the time Budokai came out, there was rejuvenated passion, only for it to get sapped away by constant yearly releases. It was starting to get apparent for me by Raging Blast.

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It's because it feels like games and products today try too hard to wow you instead of just trying to be what they are. Budokai 1 was a basic recreation of Z's story in its engine, and that made it memorable. You got play through DBZ for the first time. Part of it is nostalgia, but part of it is also games knowing their place and not trying to be some grandiose remembrance of your childhood or some shit, because we already have that.

twintail videl is so astoundingly cute and hot at the same time
hnnggggg

>SS3 Broly
>Char. from GT were omitted from RB

And then gohan had to go and ruin her.

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BOOYAH

Did DBFZ try to be overly grandiose or was it also aware of its place? That game reeks of soul, effort put into every single frame to create an amazing experience, but at the same time it's still distinctly Dragon Ball besides the horrible story mode.
I don't think grandiose is a good summary, I think it's more how much the developers tried to create something that feels as true to the product or perhaps its own thing rather than trying to "re-live" something. DBFZ isn't trying to be some reliving of the entire DBZ story except with your own character shoehorned in, it's just a fighting game with Dragon Ball characters, and a shitload of effort put into it.

I'd say a game that also had a lot of soul in it past the PS2 era would be Super Mario Galaxy 1. 2 just noticeably didn't care as much any more, whereas 1 tried to just take Mario on an adventure through space, and put a shitload of effort into making that as refined as possible.

STRUGGLE ENOUGH IN THE END YOU STILL DIE

If the game's soundtrack has a noticeable lack of brass, it's not a real DBZ game.

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This isn't 2000. There are guides specifically made about unlocking them.

BRUH

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>super bulma
Nah

based

how bout dis

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Nah

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YOU WERE AWESOME
I CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU'LL DO NEXT TIME

LATER!

*Disintegrates you*
What the fuck was Goku's problem?

Faulconers music alone is good but its incredibly misused/abused in the english dub. It has not aged well at all, its incredibly obnoxious.

WAKA WAKA WAKA

Even alone it's loopy and kind of annoying. Gohan's Anger theme was awesome but if you listen to it now, it sounds like constant repeats of the same thing over and over again.
It's fine when played in the show, but certain tracks like Perfect Cell's theme were abused and spammed to high hell. Look at the Super Vegeta VS Perfect Cell fight as an example, it constantly swaps between a random track and Cell's theme randomly interjecting. Every time they stand still, it plays Cell's theme.

You really shouldn't think your opinions hold any weight. I don't think you have a grasp on his music at all, and you're just using buzzwords because it makes you feel like you know what you're talking about. The sentences you just wrote don't mean anything except "look at me, I like to pretend I know stuff".

Based bulma bros.

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FZ is incredibly soulless in presentation, specially compared to Super DBZ

Bulma is ok, but

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I can agree, until the game actually starts and past the intro it's all very generic looking. The lobby is AIDS and everything else is generic and bland, lacking any real dragon ball charm to it. It clearly was not focused on trying to present its self at all.
Once the game starts and you see the characters actually move, the intros, and show their stuff, it's all wonderful.

DBFZ's presentation is hard to truly appreciate when nobody uses stock colours. Weird looking Vegetas and Friezas or whoever is so unbelievably jarring.

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Chi chi is good too.

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See my above post too. I wish the game had more alt-costumes and general extra stuff on the side for more flair. The stages are lacking, the menus are lame looking and lack any character, it's certainly flawed in that department.
There are certainly little details that are neat, like reflecting ki blasts going off and destroying stuff in the background, but nothing that most people will generally care about that was already in previous games.

Chi Chi more like CHIT if you know what I mean

Cute Hat in Time

>Super DBZ
An hard game to master due the difficult inputs for the characters, which numbers are limited but it has still soul and the music is stellar:

>pretty much everything gets 3D arena fighters
>most anime adaptation games either retell the same shit or are borderline plotless character interaction fests
>gameplay is usually pretty simplistic even when it's basically the crux of shit
>soulless hubs to interact with other characters before heading off to the next fight
>fights usually take the emphasis because they're easy to drum up hype with, while all character interaction is incredibly simplistic or segregated into small chunks elsewhere
>DIMPS anime games in general now
I don't even like SAO but how the fuck did some nobody dev (Aquria) actually make something that offers both new content and a solid glimpse of what its series was about with fucking MMO-style JRPGs when pretty much everything else doesn't even put in half that effort (as DIMPS showed with Fatal Bullet)? Just how little budget does all this shit get to recycle the same ideas and crap over and over?

Budokai 3 is still the best DBZ game ever released.

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Nah, Super DBZ, Butoden 2 or FighterZ are.
Budokai 3 is still fantastic, but not for its gameplay.

You're wrong.

>selecting transformations before battle
cringe

>transformations
That is true, why don't any of the genuine fighting games try to incorporate transformations in any way? It's only the shitty arena fighters, and usually transformations don't really feel like they have any impact in those. Budokai 3 did them best by a long shot. Burst Limit tried.

youtube.com/watch?v=HF7KIfQFNoY
General laziness on their parts.

What?

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the Tenkaichi series sucked, moron. You still chose a lot of transformations there before battle.

Budokai 3 is the king.

That shit was fucking fun to watch.

>Can choose them before battle as well as transform into them during battle
Literally where's the problem retard.

It's just cringe to select them beforehand, you wouldn't understand.

Dragon World was fun- having to do it 20-some times most certainly wasn't. FighterZ using a game board

youtube.com/watch?v=HuSXTvZeREU

Ha ha, I knew I wasn't the only one.

They have the most impact and interest in terms of gameplay when they're something the player works for in a match, rather than simply starting off in SS3 or whatever.
Majin Vegeta in Budokai 3 is a good example. He's a massive powerhouse who can only be gained under certain criteria, which usually requires the player nerf Vegeta by not having Breakthrough or taking up a lot of slots. But when he shows up, he's a high risk high reward instakill machine.
Compare this to just selecting Majin Vegeta and he's just Majin Vegeta.

Seethe harder dubfag

What buzzwords did I use?

obnoxious

You meant to say Budokai 3 was the last great DBZ game.

Go for it, what do you have to lose?

More like Toriyama can't make women that aren't brooding Mare.
Hot headed Videl was great.

a common everyday adjective is a buzzword now?

KAMEHAMEHA!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah, the way she got the shit kicked out of her was truly inspiring

It is when it's an opinion he doesn't like.

I don't think he used this move at all in Super.

18 says hi.

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arale is triple sss tier my nigga

mommy

Adding to this, the Japanese name of the movie is "Dragon Ball Z: Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Won’t Do it, Who Will?"

Thankfully no one with a brain cell disregards tracks because of muh plagiarism. Most of the top acclaimed songs of all time have had one of the band members come out and say they ripped off 1 or 2 tracks to create it. Blue Monday by New Order is a good example.

>According to the band, "Blue Monday" was influenced by several songs. Hook said the song was "stolen" from the Donna Summer song "Our Love".[15] Bernard Sumner said part of the arrangement came from "Dirty Talk", by Klein + M.B.O, the synthesised bassline from Sylvester's "You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)", and from the Kraftwerk song "Uranium" from the Radio-Activity album.[15] Hook's bassline was derived from an Ennio Morricone soundtrack.

my man

How is that stronger than the instant kamehameha that blew cells entire upper body off, The solar kamehameha, the father son kamehameha, or final explosion?

Because toriyama forgot, so that's why

PEOPLE OF CONTON CITY

HAVE (You) BEEN TO THE HERO COLISEUM YET?

FUCKING PLAY OUR SHITTY CARD GAME NOW

are you guys hopeful for Project Z?

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clips.twitch.tv/BlatantEntertainingCamelDoubleRainbow

AND BUY OUR FIGURINES

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Haven't read the thread
Have superfags highjacked yet another dbz thread as usual?

Infinite World is better yet worse than Budokai 3. The ultra guard and Shin Budokai ultimates screwed everything up.

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In Kai, it's "Feast your eyes on Super Vegeta's BIG BANG ATTAAAACK!"

Talk about obsessed

Pigtail Videl is the best.

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Tell me about it. Can't have a dbz thread anymore without them sticking it down everyone's throat.

>one of the only z-fighters to have defeated Goku
>Vegeta got his used goods
>some of the coolest techniques in the series, like the roga fufu ken and soukidan
>learned the kamehameha by himself
>becomes a loved and famous baseball player, instead of being a deadbeat all his life like everyone else in the series
Why do people, including toriyama, like to shit on this guy so hard?
>b-but muh saibaman
Have you even watched the show? Yamcha mopped the floor with the saibaman and only died when the thing grabbed him from behind and self-destructed. He decided to fight first because he knew of the risks and didn't want to put his friends in danger. Any of them would have been killed in that situation. How does that make him weaker than anyone else?

People talk about how Tenshinhan got the shaft in Super, and that is true, but Yamcha didn't even get to go to the tournament, where even fucking Roshi got a chance to shine.

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>tfw figured out how to get mods working on Xenoverse
>Now stuck in a spiral of my own autism concerning my growing cast of OCs

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You do know I'm talking about you right?

No shit brainlet supercuck

ENJOY OBLIVION

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That makes me think, why don't the Z-Fighters just become professional athletes/fighters? I guess Goku just wants a quiet life with his family and Vegeta has a rich wife, but even people like Krillin could outperform every human.

I actually decided to read the manga recently over watching the anime and boy, without filler backing him up, yamcha always sucked.
Krillin on the other hand, had more than I expected

It depends on how much stuff they are planning to cover with the game and how much stuff you can do in the large areas.

imagine calling yourself super your name

shut the fuck up

>Vegeta dislikes this post

Because DBZ is trash. Buu saga was the last good one.

DRAGON DRAGON ROCK THE DRAGON BALL Z AHHHHH

Maybe they'd do so if they weren't FUCKING INTERRUPTED BY ALIENS AND COSMIC OVERLORDS WANTING TO KILL THEM EVERYTIEM

Not as bad as Guldo's 1 to 33 odds.

Fighterz is amazing!

#IstandwithVic #metoo

No user, you don't understand. I NEED SSJ God SSJ Kanba and Kanba Broly fusion. I NEED SUBER BABY GOKU BLACK

because the earth's economy in dbz is immensely bountiful to the point that Krillin can literally live in the middle of the ocean with access to helicopter even before working as a cop

No, user. The autism I have is much worse. I have the autism where I try to make all my OCs fit the lore, have powerlevels and abilities that make sense, and have in-depth backstories and nuanced characterization.

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They're older than that. As of Broly, Trunks and Goten are like 15 and 14 respectively

And they still look like fucking toddlers.

it's like they are permanently 8-7 years old.

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I AM NOT GOKU OR VEGETA, I AM GOGETA!

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Like another user said, Saiyans age at a slower rate. Vegeta actually points this out during End of Z and I think he also did this during Super. This is what Goku looks like at age 16

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DRAGOOONN FIIIIIIIIIIST

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I'M THE ONE WHO WILL DESTROY YOU

They are half-saiyans, and Gohan seemed to grow at a normal rate. I always assumed Goku was just a "late bloomer".

LET ME ENJOY THIS!
>spams his specials
>his ultimate might tends to suck

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Cell's best line is when he transforms and says "Even more perfect!"

where? Cile?

Struggle all you want
YOU'RE STILL NO MATCH FOR ME

This is probably explained by the whole S-Cells concept Toriyama came up with. It can probably be assumed that Saiyans who experience more pain and strife in their lives develop a little bit faster as a means of a defense mechanism. Both Goku and Goten didn't face anywhere near as much hardship early into their lives as Gohan did so their S Cells had more time to develop and keep them physically youthful. It's also why U6 Saiyans are a lot shorter than their U7 counterparts.

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I'LLBEATYOUINFIVESECONDS

I wish they would have actually been able to finish Birst Limit.

Probably still has the best animation of any DBZ game, not counting FighterZ anime esque approach.

gogeta literally was only in fusion reborn for like 5 seconds

AH HA HA HA!

The entire planet...WILL BE VAPORIZED!

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THIS IS EXCITING

Thanks Nail

Nova Shenron is so calm

THIS IS IT

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Semen demon!

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>budokai 1
>pick frieza
>give him the mecha frieza ability
>literally rise from your grave as mecha frieza if you die
>dabbing on friends in vs
>they finally manage to drop my frieza only for me to get back up and smack them around with my robo tail

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And here's Goku at 18. No Dragon Ball game to my knowledge has ever portrayed Goku like this.

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I didn't hate it for the most part but what I've seen of fighterz is just plain superior

Quite literally.

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Reminder that your favorite DBZ BT3 character has jobbed to Appule at least once

Worst attack in the entire DBZ universe

Thoughts on unused concept art for characters like SkoT and Demigra?

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Bait

That is not Kefla

Should have kept that design and the loli design she alternates between at will. There's an elderly version of her two but she refuses to let it come out, out of vanity and a desire to appear young and desirable.

>kefshit
In the trash it goes.

Would a postboy t-shirt and a badman button up shirt count as subtle anime clothing?

When will they fix those stupid fucking giant hands

They're gonna have the Dramatic Finish, right?

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Almost certainly. I just hope Gogeta has a Super Gogeta alt

non-canon

No cause janemba is from a different continuity than dbs gogeta. If anything they'll do it with broly and gogeta instead.

>If GT was that awful, why acknowledge those characters?

Because Dragon Ball GT was airing in the west at the time. Pretty sure that before then DBGT Final Bout in 97 was the first and last time GT was referenced in any dragon ball video game.

And before anyone reeeeee at the though of the west revitalizing the Dragonball brand remember that Budokai 1 game out while the cell saga was wrapping up here in America. It wasn't a coincidence that Budokai 1 stopped at Cell saga when every game prior in Japan went through the entire series+ movies.

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First 3 DBZ movies had more soul than everything Dragonball related that came afterwards

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That image is good

Why in the fuck are you fags not talking about Hyper Dragon Ball Z?

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youtube.com/watch?v=KeBsfgWi-zw

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Is now a good time to get into that Dokkan mobage?

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>mugen

Everyone knows Toriyama force is like toon force on coke user.

Whatever issues you have with mugen are irrelevant when you look at how well made this game was. It was DragonBall FighterZ before FighterZ.
It has soul.

>All those cool as fuck fusions and buu absorbs from Budokai 2 never seen again

Frieza-Buu was incredible, the Buu VA did an amazing job of imitating Linda Young

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looks and sounds like shit desu

>Stronger characters in Budokai 3 outright obliterate the planet when they perform their finishers
Gets me hard everytime anons

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Xenoverse 2 is literally ripe for shit like this but they refuse to deviate from the canon and I have no idea why.

>that animation quality
fuck dude it's so smooth

They could seriously have like 20+ absorbs for Buu of just random dudes and it'd be baller. Swole Buu Broly, Cooler Buu fucking Androind 19 Buu who gives a fuck.

Christ we don't even get Tiencha

>no hell stage
>DBS Blue Gogeta not Super Gogeta


They kind of dropped dramatics when they realized how near impossible it is to get in a real match situation. Maybe we'll get a Gogeta/Broly dramatic since they're drumming their release as something big.

Based and Yamchadpilled, I wish Toriyama would stop shitting on the humies.

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movie quality animation was always a fun thing, even the less good movies didn't look like shit

Kelamis is KINO.

Final Shine was so strong

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Where can I even get a Badman shirt?

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Tien is the hardest nigga and it makes me upset that outside of FighterZ he's either too weak or his moves suck too much to justify using. I also hate how he actually got featured in Super only for Roshi to steal his recruitment episode, and his "moment" in the ToP was extremely half-assed. Especially egregious when Yamcha got a GOAT filler episode and Krillin got a couple good moments.

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Cope Gohantard

Just buy a pink button up and have someone make an iron on for you.

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LOOKIN GOOD YAMCHA!

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test

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I got a bunch of bookmarks of clips from the BT3 tourneys. Anyone got any webms? If you got ones with sound, could you make a thread on /wsg/ and link it here?

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SOYA

>Roshi quit as a martial artist because he thought Tien was the future
>somehow this is ignored in Super
I see, so it's like that.

Not beinng able to pay attention to a guy because hes "acting" crazy, though he's telling the truth.

FIELD OPEN

SS4 is so awesome, damn RIP. Fuck this nu-ssj shit

I dont know. I went back and played the one on the wii and forgot how high quality they were compared to the absolute shit they sell now

He only had one voice in the game and japanese dub of the show.

To be fair that little girl robot can sometimes stomp on the highest tiers