Is the current EU4 better than EU3?

Is the current EU4 better than EU3?

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Both games just involve staring at maps.
I guess eu4s map looks better.

Imperator: Rome

I miss spheres of influence and technology relying on money and investment rather than mana so eu3

I hate it. We could have had Victoria III.

Maybe I've just been unlucky but ever since they implemented the institutions almost all of the world is keeping up with the Europeans at technoloygy to the point I'm fighting Africans in 1700's who are only 2-3 techs behind me. Feels very odd

it would be worse than victoria 2

>they haven't fixed imperator
How do they get away with this

today is the day i remind them of magistrates

they made some patch that reduces the prevalence of mana costs and increases gold costs and they somehow thought that this would fix everything (in their brains mana is the main reason for the negative feedback)
in reality mana is just a small aspect of its shitiness and the game is fundamentally poorly designed and boring

are you really surprised? paradox has been getting rapidly worse over the last few years. hoi3 was a disaster that they just abandoned, eu4 was a disaster, hoi4 is a fucking mess, i:r is one of the worst gsg ever released

I wish I had that screencap of Johan making a faggot out of himself saying to some guy complaining about the mana that he should play some other stuff then.
What a disgrace.

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That's it.

Viccy 3 will be a soulless dumpster fire too, don't worry

ikr. everytime i play i have to deal with the bullshit of those fucking barbarians having the same technology as me or closer.
its infuriating.

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I played a game of EUIII recently as Scotland. The Ottomans DoWed me without a casus belli for literally no reason. They then sent their entire army to occupy my territory. Only a few years after game start.

EUIII is not very good in hindsight.

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>Want to get into EUIV
>but my favorite area of history is mesoamerican history
>On one hand EUIV actually has a good variety of Mesoamerican states beyond just the typical Aztec and various Maya states, such as also having the Purepecha empire, the Republic of Tlaxcala, the Kingdom of Colima, a (inaccurately unified, but this is excusable) state for the Huastec, Otomi, Mixtec, Totonac, Zapotec, and other civilizations etc;
>but on the other almost all of these aside from the Aztec, Purepecha, Tlaxcala are basically listed as tribes as far their goverment is treated
>Also all of them are put in the same tech tier as random north american tribes and fucking below random subharhan tribes
>Also they can't use half of the game's mechanics without "reforming" even though most of it is shit they had already been doing IRL since they were formal state societies, not unga bunga cheifdoms.

The Mesoamerica universalis overhaul mod looks good, see pic related and videos below, but I have zero clue if it's spomething I can get into without having played the base game at all first and it limits play to Mesoamerica only, though that's not inherently a problem I guess since honestly a mesoamerica specific grand strategy game could wpori really well given the unique and complex geopolitical shit Mesoamerican politics and diplomacy had

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I'll go with EU3 because EU4 launcher crashes every single time

Every few months I pirate EU4, play for 10 minutes, then uninstall it and go back to CK2.

Shattered retreat ruined EU4.
So fun beating someone and then having them fucking teleport halfway across the map and get their whole army back.

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>when the game finishes loading and you open the map and 0:51 kicks in
>exploring the world map through the years and watching it morph ever closer to the modern world
>noticing odd things happening and going on wikipedia to find out what happened
those were the days, i can't even remember the last time i made a soulful run in a paradox game

I'm the opposite.

How about this?
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But muh office mp balance. Current Paradox are brainless apes

doesn't come close
not only is the theme less hype, the metal sounds much worse than EU3's vocals and more historical sounding music
plus i have an SSD now so EU4 doesn't finish loading at a timing like EU3 did, and EU3's map was comfier for exploring the world map

I personally like this track youtube.com/watch?v=bkvsgxIELm8

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Use the 1 unit retreat trick to get stackwipes

Could you explain how?

Please

Not that guy but how? CK2 has masses to do, while euiv is literally just map painting waiting for mana or manpower. Its combat is simple as shit and the internal politics of the various states are far behind the likes of ck2 or victoria 2.

Only if fucking Johan is in charge of it, they should fire that asshole, everything he makes has to be fixed by Wiz or somebody else

I’m the same, EUiv is painfully boring compared to ck2 or Victoria. What ever game can your demonically possessed younger son end up being caught fucking his au t then runni g away to form a host to conquer france.

block outgoing connections in your firewall settings

Pity the devs gave up on that mod

The rock packs are the worst thing to happen to any paradox game. Especially the fucking CK2 ones
>The night is deep
>Nobody is alseep
>Focused and wide awake
Like who wrote this shit?

Ye CK2 is their game with the best core mechanics, with enough random elements to keep playing interesting. You're always one bad heir and a lost civil war away from losing your all your holdings

no the 3d map alone completely ruins the game for me

>You're always one bad heir and a lost civil war away from losing your all your holdings
maybe if you roleplay, but there are so many things you can do to plan ahead. basically just build your demesne well and youll be way too powerful for a civil war to ever happen

At least you can rp in ck2, you can’t in Euiv due to the fact nothing fucking happens when you’re not at war.

Gonna try CK2 again.
How should I set these?

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Anyone?

put full fantasy and go all random
ck2 is just a sex game and that is what matter

EU3 is absolutely trash game

>We could have had Victoria III
what makes you think that

Joke's on him, I haven't enjoyed their games for almost a decade now.

>being a mexican that plays a game about european irredentism

Play the game till later ages where you can use force march to chase a stack down adn stackwipe them. Or play prussians and stack infrantry combat ability and discipline so you stackwipe because you do too much damage. Hell, lategame the damage is so high you kill most troops anyway

Turn off shattered retreat, secret religious cults, and defensive pacts. set exclaves to naval for less border gore.
If you want historical, turn off supernatural and absurd events and devil worshipers and set gender equality to historical. If not, do what you want.

redpill me on ideal CK2 mods for creating an empire of sex

Yes

Honestly no, EU3 Divine Winds was speak Europa.

Thats because ck2 is piss easy compared to EUVI

Staring at a real map had a lot more SOUL than staring at the generic 3D overworld in IV. EUIII got this (also less DLC).

In EU4 all you fucking do is fight wars between alliances, gets boring 50 years in.

>also less DLC
And thus less contents.

I'd play MEIOU and Taxes 24/7 if it wasn't crashing every 10 in-game years

This really. Atleast hoi 4 is still fun despite being simple.