Lost Valley from Sonic Forces is NOT peak level design.
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Lost Valley from Sonic Forces is NOT peak level design
Jonathan Cook
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Jonathan Kelly
>shit game has shit levels
You don't fucking say.
Cameron Hall
>Hate's the level that everyone claims is the best level in Forces
>Likes City Escape, the most Advance 2, straight hallway of the Adventure games
Shit taste the E-celeb, what else is new?
Jonathan Peterson
Adam Flores
The game is shit because Cream isn't on it, Sega needs to stop rmoving Cream from all Sonic games if they wnat the franchise to succeed.
Cooper Johnson
Just fuck off lolifag. She hasn't been in a Sonic game since Generations at best and the best game to everyone in the series doesn't even have her present in them.
John Martinez
Woah woah woah woah woah. Do people actually think Lost Valley was good? Of coarse it's not peak sonic game design. Generations was peak sonic game design, SA 1 and 2 was peak sonic game design. Lost Valley is a terrible fucking stage and I don't need a video essay to tell me that.
Liam Walker
He's comparing how to do a first impression first level in a Sonic game. It really don't take a scientist to see the issues of this, but people have gone on record saying "it's the first level, it's meant to be so linear!" before. They did when damage controlling how linear "City" was in the E3 demo and claimed it's the first level, only to then get BTFO when it was revealed it's like the 6th level in the game.
Adrian Bennett
>inb4 sissyhog spammer shows up
Fuck off, we already gave our opinions long ago
Kayden Ward
They always have strange things to say
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Brody Lewis
Absolutely disgusting
Jayden Cooper
Fucking embarrassing. What's so difficult to get right about this?
Jordan Morris
especially when even the most amateur of people can replicate it better
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Lucas Myers
The only good or at least decent level in Forces was Mortar Canyon
Nathaniel Powell
>CD Jump sound
Disgusting but still better than Sonic Team.
Cameron Garcia
Ok, can I honestly ask why so many people hate that sound? It never bothered me even once, sure it sounds kinda odd compared to the regular one, but it's just a slightly altered version...
I guess what I'm saying is that it's a hatred that's more confused me than anything for years.
Michael Reyes
Far to high pitched and hurts my ears. The one used in SA1 was a better version of that, but the Sonic 1-Mania one is best.
Nicholas Reed
I suppose it makes more sense when you put it that way, honestly if you want my hot take on it, I wonder why so many fangames use it.
Landon Richardson
Not a map but Infinite was wasted potential.
Josiah Foster
Even worse when it can be done even in 3D
Nicholas Moore
source?
Robert Robinson
...I can't find it
It's the same guy that made Sonic Islands, I got it from his twitter but forgot his name.
Cooper Parker
>tfw Lost World had potential with the parkour system but was dragged down by countless other shit
It still bothers me to this day, we got the first non boost game in years, and they fucked it up.
Jordan Lewis
Because those are hardcore CDfags and lap up anything CD, even down to the style of Sonic looking like he did in the OVA.
Matthew Barnes
Thanks user. Steve Taylor. @SteveTGames
Lincoln Bennett
Same, thanks for the help.
Ryan Baker
Xavier Ward
Well at least people are still using Dreams I see.
>Use Dreams
>Doesn't make NiGHTS playable
One job.
Jeremiah Martinez
I wanna torture gaydow.
John Hernandez
wrong board
Josiah Flores
who the fuck said it was
Christopher Hall
Lincoln Young
Doesn't look perfect but still leagues better than whatever diarrhea dribbles out of Sonic Team's asshole.
Their main problem is that they used the boostshit Sonic engine as the base for their Classic 2D sections in Generations, so it felt like a complete duct tape job. Lost World's engine in Forces just made it even more apparent since that game's physics (or lack thereof, webm related) are even worse for Classic style gameplay. Maybe, MAYBE, if Sonic Team built an engine with Classic physics in mind, we'd get something more presentable, but at this point, I'm not even convinced they could do it if they tried. Which as others in this thread have pointed out, is absolutely baffling, since it's actually not even that hard to implement some halfway decent Classic Sonic physics, in 2D or 3D.
But, I guess we're just in the minority on this one. The majority doesn't see a problem with it. As long as a Sonic game is "good enough for the masses", they'll never improve on the fundamentals. Very sad. Fans really are the last hope of this series clawing its way out of abject mediocrity.
Gabriel Rogers
I at least hope Sega will be smart enough to keep Whitehead & Co for more 2D games in the future, because that retro engine he made is literally every classicfag's wet dream with how near perfect it is.
Anthony Flores
>sonic 3 a.i.r got a new update
nice