Constant meming and shitting on ff7 about how its "overrated" gives me negative impression of ff7

They're retards.
FFVII is actually underrated as a video game.

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>movie game from 1977 that popularized movie games responsible for ruining gaming forever
gee i wonder why would anyone be contemptuous towards this game

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You have no historical context and you're entirely wrong.

Overrated doesn't mean bad

Games were only good from 1985 to 2013

>game receives extreme amount of praise on release
>basically Mass Effect but the 90s
>fanbase forms around it
>fanbase is pretty chill
>old hentai of tifa comes out of it, and it's great
>but fanbase is also extremely autistic: final fantasy house, sephiroth worship (like naming your kids sephiroth), katana worship (early weebs got started in the 90s) and just geniune autism like the Homestuck fandom.
>Equal and opposite reaction on the internet. FF7 gets memed as that game weird people play
>later Final Fantasies come out with spoony reviewing 8 and 10 gaining meme attraction and leading to dislike of the series
>wrpgs become more popular with Bioware and people start saying 7 is overrated
>decade of this is done without people playing 7
>extended universe 7 is mostly bad which also makes people think 7 is bad

Pretty much memes got 7.

FF7 was so incredible for its time that it became "overpopular", which led retards to come forward with their awful hot takes.

Same thing happened with Diablo 2, WoW, the Bioshock franchise, Witcher series, Dark Souls, etc. People call them shit because they're popular. Well Dark Souls IS shit but the other games are legendary.

games stopped being good when Steam became a thing

It's assblasted FF6fags that pushed that retarded narrative.

Though I disagree about the remake, I think it looks like shit.

This is definitely true to a significant extent, not that I want to imply there weren't movie games before FF7. PS1 was a very big push on cutscenes in games.

Consider the following:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop

>The remake looks like shi-

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>Wtf lads, why do so many people say this game is """overrated"""

FF6 and FF9-fags that can't cope that their games are inferior

It really does look bland.

If they put so much money into the game's development why couldn't they afford a proper translation for its localization

Fuck you, River Raid and Asteroids were great.

>like naming your kids sephiroth
This is not nearly on any levels as bad as current day with people naming their kids after videogames characters, especially Dovakhin and shit like Zelda and stuff

All the money went into development so they didn't got a penny to spare for a thesaurus

>playing the original before the remake
Good job user, now you can rightfully bitch about the shit they're going to add and change. Which we all know is going to happen to some degree.

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>This is not nearly on any levels as bad as current day with people naming their kids after videogames characters, especially Dovakhin and shit like Zelda and stuff

Does your name happen to be Sephiroth by any chance?

Hate to break it to you, but Zelda has been a name for hundreds of years before Nintendo even existed.

I named my son Zack because of Crisis Core.

>shit like Zelda and stuff
How old are you?

>basically Mass Effect but the 90s
Mass Effect wasn't even remotely close to FF7. The game singlehandedly turned JRPGs from a weird niche for the nerdiest of nerds into 100% full normalfag mainstream.

Go away Zelda Williams, your dad is a meme, and so is you

weird, i never noticed and i never cared because the game is fucking excellent and the fact that i played through more than 13 hours and i ate 13 hours of cutscenes means the game is great

FF7 is overrated but that doesn't make it a bad game

FF6 and 9 are overrated by the contrarians but are also great

FF8 is suddenly getting love because of the remaster but got so much shit over the years despite being a great entry.

tfw no real leaks of ff7re

i want more info, dammit

I blame Spoony and his shit opinions, him being mentally ill and a scammer shouldn't be a surprise really

It shouldn't be understated how much a retarded e celeb can sway opinion of something

It's a good game but I don't think it's the GOAT like most people say.

>believing a single fucking word that Yea Forums says

Final Fantasy 10-2 is the best final fantasy game

ME led normies into rpgs, catapulted Bioware into being a critical and popular darling, created a massive fanbase around a single game, and led to the expansion of that game into several pieces of media.

Maybe it isn't the second impact, but to me it created a wave like 7 did.

Zack is just a 90s cool name for Jack.

Sephiroth is very on the nose.

>shit like Zelda

Someone can't into history apparently.

>like most people say.
Most people wouldn't say that.

>I named my son Zack
based
>because of Crisis Core
cringe

This desu

I know the Thing video game for it's flaws is still regarded as just a fusebox simulator because of Spoony.

It does look good, but everything squeenix has made does.

The trailer made me feel like they're going to fuck up the combat system, it looks more like 15's shit "hold circle to win", instead of the classic FF turn base.

Also I cant wait to see cloud crossdress.

Based

I honestly think chrono trigger is better tbqh. pixel art ages better than 3d models on general principle. still a great game though.

>playing movie games
Kek

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(You)

>listening to contrarians edgelords on Yea Forums

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This. The game comes out in almost half a year and we still have no real sustenance as far as when part two will come out, how long part one is and how many other changes we can expect to see.

It perturbs me that it's this far in development and we've only seen the first few hours of the game.

>FO1
>party members

They're basically just summoned zombies following you around.

I'd take the cast of 7 over Ian and Dogmeat any day.

>It does look good, but everything squeenix has made does.
They really are the KyoAni of video games.

I feel part 2 will come out faster than part 1, given as how part 1 was in development hell for like 3 years.

thanks

Outside of Yea Forums it’s rightly lauded, obviously Yea Forumsirgins can’t handle enjoying something popular so they shit on it.

I'm on my first playthrough to FF7, beat the wind maze and Jenova-Death. I then moved on to the ten hours of cutscenes afterwards.
I'm really not feeling this game. The amount of cutscenes, how often the games makes you take breaks (not to mention the translation in my language is beyond awful so the story isn't even that pleasant to follow, but that's not the game's fault), the fact that each character can do everything, and the retarded amount of dumb minigames.
I really liked 3-4-5-6 a lot more.
It's not bad, it's just dull. It must've been really fucking impressive back in the day though. I'm probably going to finish it on principle, but I'm really not feeling it mr krabs.

Is FF7 dieselpunk?

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Metal Gear Solid did far more damage in that regard than any pre-voice acting JRPG

If diesel was the life blood of a planet? Yes

youtube.com/watch?v=m8hK0gRb8Cc&t=20m45s

They didn't play long enough to get to the kino

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i tried playing fallout and it bored me to death

>Three years
We're past four now, it was first announced at E3 15.

One would optimistically hope that since they've laid the groundwork with part one then the rest would come out easier, but if this and KH3 have shown us anything, it's that Square can't multi task it's games in a timely manner. Mainly for putting so much of a burden on nomura to cross manage two high level projects.

I'd rather you didnt sexualise FF7 characters desu

> Game is extremely popular
> Comes out at the perfect time to be the first [genre] game played by tons of people
> Becomes a standout in its genre
> Features and themes from it get copied by dozens of other games in the ensuing years
> Modern 'gamer' decides to give that classic game a shot
> All they see is a bunch of features or themes that have been done and redone a thousand times over in modern games
> They think it is "overrated" or "generic" as a result
> They then shitpost about it online

See also: Half Life 2

No, but it is better than 7. 5 is still the best.

I had the opposite impression. The combat looks a lot better than XV’s and appears to have everything I wanted out of an arpg interpretation of VII with rapid character switching and each character playing pretty differently. I’m curious to see how Red will play.

FF VII was and is a superb game. Played it back in the day on PS1. Recently replayed it on Switch and will play the remake on PS4. Don't listen to shitters on this board, ever.

>it looks more like 15's shit "hold circle to win"
So, just like the original?

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She’s trying too hard

At least she's trying harder than you are.

>ME led normies into rpgs, catapulted Bioware into being a critical and popular darling, created a massive fanbase around a single game, and led to the expansion of that game into several pieces of media.

I'd argue that Fallout 3 and Oblivion had far more of an impact on normalfags than Mass Effect.

red xiii NEEDS to be enemy skill: the character, kinda like strago or gau

>dat webm

The attack the enemy is using is called 'Shotgun', but...what about it makes it a shotgun? The enemy can't run out of shotgun shells, nor does this attack have any of the properties of a shotgun, heck, it doesn't even take into account range. It functions exactly like a physical attack.

Contrast that with another turn-based RPG that was released in the same year as FF7, Fallout. In that game, shotguns actually function like you would expect. They use up ammo, have to be reloaded if they do run out of ammo, and they are most effective at close range and become very inaccurate at greater distances.

Besides distance, Fallout's combat also takes into account things like friendly fire and the level of illumination: fighting at night or in a cave makes you less accurate. And the combat actually takes place in the same area you explore in and utilizes your surroundings, whereas FF7 has invisible random encounters that basically teleport you to a separate dimension for the combat encounter.

Fallout has voice acting, whereas in FF7 characters don't even grunt when they take damage. It's dead silent. In Fallout armor changes your appearance, whereas it doesn't in FF7. In Fallout you bend down and loot the corpses of your enemies after combat, in FF7 they evaporate in thin air and you magically receive gold from them.

Having played both of these games for the first time only recently, I found Fallout immersive and engrossing in a way that FF7, despite its ostensibly higher production values, wasn't. And I only now realized why.

Which is why I don't understand the popular notion that FF7 revolutionized gaming. It played exactly like jrpgs before it.

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It gets shit on by contrarians who pretend like the inferior game in the series is better. See: LttP (or fedora's mask) vs OoT, FF6 vs FF7, MGS2 vs MGS3, etc.

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You misspelled Morrowind.

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Sephiroth is overrated

I just dont get why people think the story is complicated. There was only one twist in the game. Everything else is pretty straightforward.

because the snes era FFs are the only ones worth playing. FF had a worse transition to 3D than sonic, and thats saying something. FF7 is the Sonic Adventure of the series- people love it for nostalgia, but look even an inch deeper and it unravels as a ghost of its predecessors.

ahem

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Morrowind was still relatively niche, being restricted to Xbox, the worst-selling console of its generation.

It wasn't until Oblivion and Fallout 3 that Bethesda really hooked in a mainstream audience.

>tfw already prepared to be disappointed by FF7R

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I'm not arguing that Fallout 3 and Oblivion are good games, but they did sell a shit ton and normalfags lapped it up. Morrowind was also very successful but it didn't do as well as the later titles did (because the series hadn't been lobotomized yet).

FF7 is the only good FF game. Born in 1990 btw.

development hell implicates nothing is getting done. now we at least have a release date.

>I just dont get why people think the story is complicated. There was only one twist in the game. Everything else is pretty straightforward
FF7's plot isn't complicated, it's convoluted, and needlessly so.

Cloud in particular is a terrible character, and it's because his entire personality revolves around a shitty M. Night Shyamalan-esque plot twist.

For starters, before the twist is revealed, Cloud doesn't show any indication he has assumed Zack's persona, so the end result is that he goes from being a taciturn hero who has internalized someone else's memories as his own without realizing it to...a taciturn hero who outwardly appears the same, but apparently has resolved all those deep-seated issues, no really, believe me.

Furthermore, what is even the point of the whole Nibelheim incident? Cloud goes from being a heroic person (which he clearly is, judging by the flashbacks where he rescues Tifa twice and defeats Sephiroth) who failed to qualify for the elite squad of the evil cyberpunk regime (i.e. not a group you'd want to join) to assuming the memories of...Zack, another heroic person who did qualify for the elite squad of the evil cyberpunk regime. As far as catalysts for mental breakdowns go, this comes across as very pedestrian in the grand scheme of things. It's like the writers wanted to have a plot twist and an identity crisis, but couldn't think of any compelling material for such a storyline.

Another big issue that FVII suffers from is the dialogue. Everyone in FVII communicates in very basic English sentences. Despite being a group of misfits, some of which aren't even human, all of the characters have very nondistinct and same-y styles of speech (besides Barret's Mr T impression, which is another mistranslation and butchering of his character). Since there's also a conspicuous absence of voice acting, characters don't feel like particularly distinct individuals.

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>Morrowind was still relatively niche
What? The game sold four million copies by 2005. It's the game that saved Bethesda as a company.
>being restricted to Xbox, the worst-selling console of its generation.
You mean the second best selling console of its generation?

Majora's mask is legit better than oot though

Kill yourself.

Look at the sales numbers of Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim then compare them to Morrowind.

As mentioned, Sony actively pushing for FMV to show dominance of hardware is what pushed for more and move movie-esque gaming, and this would continue. To be fair though, a shift from few cutscenes to a bit more of a cinematic presentation existed from Nintendo as well. Compare LA to OoT. LA has a narrative but doesn't spend much time in scenes dwelling on it. OoT wants to set the tone and show off assets. I would like to think both FF7 and OoT showed restraint and straddled some fine lines for gameplay vs presentation.

>You mean the second best selling console of its generation?
What? Because it sold something like 21 million copies vs the GameCube's 20 million copies? You're just splitting hairs now.

It hardly matters when the PS2 sold like a 100+ million copies. So my point stands, the Xbox was a relative niche console.

Yeah, this VII is legitimately up there as one of the greatest games ever made, and VII Remake is the most anticipated upcoming title of them all.

playcrazygame.com/2019/07/07/final-fantasy-7-most-anticipated-game-remake-on-famitsu-ps4-and-switch-compete-for-the-top-10/

>For starters, before the twist is revealed, Cloud doesn't show any indication he has assumed Zack's persona
Nigga were you even paying attention? Like all of aeris's and tifa's interactions in the early game with cloud are dropping heavy foreshadowing and every other cutscene throughout disc 1 cloud starts shaking his head while a big *WHIIIIIIIINNNNNNNEEEEE* sound effect plays and then he does or says something that doesn't seem to quite fit his characterization

The dress sphere system is so fucking good. I love it. Too bad the story is kinda retarded and the game is a bit on the easy side for a majority of it. Getting the true ending is also a massive bitch.

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reddit

>14 hours of cutscenes
>completely on rails, world doesn't allow free exploration until the game is almost over
>"restraint"

OoT to a lesser extent is also guilty of this, with the lengthy and heavy-handed tutorializaing at the start of the game.

Agreed, almost completely. The dialogue is fine for its wretched story and translation. Other than that, the story, gameplay, characters, graphics, and especially the music/sound is all garbage. It's a meme to like it. I'm convinced nobody actually does.

>another casual who weren't able to deal with the "super duper stressful :(" time limit
Cringe, the game is better than OOT in every metric except length

>lengthy
What? You get to the Deku Tree in about fifteen minutes.

It’s a pasta.

>Cloud can freely switch between two different kinds of attack strings.
I hope Tifa has something like this. Maybe alternating between punch and kick based attacks.

>why do so many people say this game is """overrated"""
Because they haven't played it

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>The soundtrack is complete as-
youtube.com/watch?v=6UARM4q7hHU
youtube.com/watch?v=SJzfOA9uV6E
youtube.com/watch?v=UMvHTlWyxH0
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>and every other cutscene throughout disc 1 cloud starts shaking his head while a big *WHIIIIIIIINNNNNNNEEEEE* sound effect plays
I'm not talking about him zoning out and having blackouts. That shit happened often and was about as subtle as a sledgehammer blow.

I'm talking about his PERSONALITY. There is no real difference between how he behaves before and after his personality disorder is resolved.

Furthermore, as I pointed out, there was no reason for him to have that personality disorder in the first place, so it's just bad writing all around. Him assuming Zack's persona would have been compelling if he had an actual reason to do it, like if he was a coward who got people killed or something.

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You're overstating the affect Mass Effect had on the market and not understanding what made FF7 so popular. It's all about scope. Yeah, people got excited over Mass Effect, but it was because of the promise of the future, not exactly the first game itself. It was a KOTOR-esque game except it was supposed to be part of a trilogy where your choices actually mattered. Man, that set people off.

FF7 laid down the scope when it released. It had cinematics that honestly aged pretty well (compare them to something like Tekken's), a large world, lots of minigames, a long playtime, "adult themes", a far more coherent story than previous entries in FF... Most people just compared 6 to 7 from a visual standpoint and went "holy shit, it's like an actual world"

FF7 is considered overrated only in the same way that Mario or Zelda or whatever is considered overrated. If you get popular enough, people will claim it's overrated because they didn't immediately cum into their pants. The game retains a strong balance and large scope that continues to be rarely even approached by other JRPGs.

>second reel is a miss

meant for

Atleast they’re recognized, impactful people unlike you’ll ever be

It's somehow managed to become both one of the most overrated and underrated games of all time.

There were "games" before the PS1 which consisted of 100% FMV with QTEs to determine what branch of video to jump to next, and they were openly ridiculed in media by the time the PS1 launched. FMV wasn't the technology that paved the way for cinematic games. Voice acting was, because normalfags won't read subtitles.

I just don’t understand. Realism just doesn’t work imo in a game this fantasy based .. the chibi characters actually added a lot of personality and charm to the original game. And all that’s gonna be lost in this super serious remake that’s gonna even change the story. It’s just like I feel having a homage to the game woulda been better than trying to make the whole thing again.

>FF7 is considered overrated only in the same way that Mario or Zelda or whatever is considered overrated.
That comparison makes no sense because Mario and Zelda actually made a true leap from 2d to 3d.

FF7 on the other hand is basically identical to the 2d ff's that came before it:

>environments are static 2d backgrounds
>dialogue is still conveyed through text boxes, no voice acting whatsoever
>rather than occuring in the environment, combat takes you to a separate battle screen where you can't move or interact with the environment
>the game doesn't even use 3D space in any meaningful way outside of some mini-games
>uses low-quality midi music

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14 hours of cutscenes spread out pretty fucking well. The game has less than an hour of cinematics and most cutscenes play out in relatively short chunks. Look at something like Persona which can take you away from any meaningful interaction in 30+ minute stretches. It shows restraint by allowing the player to be involved on a regular basis.

If you think OoT is over tutorialized, then you must hate every modern game. It also shows restraint by making a TON of the tutorial totally optional and once you've played through the game, it takes very little time. I admit that I am not a fan of the camera changing when you step on a switch, but I understand why they did it and cryptic changes are as much of a sin.

I don't like the materia system but I get why people would. It just makes party members less special since the only major difference in gameplay is what materia they have and what their limit breaks offer.

I prefer games where each character has a dedicated role that grows over time as opposed to customise these preset characters to whatever you like.

I was talking about popularity of those series, not the jump from 2D to 3D. I wasn't specifically speaking about Mario 64 or OoT. Popular things get shat on because they are popular.

Yes, there were games like those. Gaming was already becoming more cinematic before voice acting was a regular thing. The jump to 3D added the ability for much more play in camera. You do realize that being "cinematic" is more than just having FMVs, right?

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are you new here? nobody can wait to suck this games dick in every thread it gets.
see

>Anyone who says ff7 is bad is contrarian. Its literally one of the best RPGs ever made.

>rather than permanent character building choices, most of the customization comes from materia which basically function like equipment loadouts, which means the game has very few RPG elements
>best RPG ever made

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>can fully customize the capabilities of each character excepting their unique finishers and base stats
>this is somehow a bad thing
Rpgs without good character customization suck

Play on. It stops being excellent very soon. And the difficulty never appears either, it's autowin gameplay to the end.
Soundtrack and visual design are very good throughout, though.

because journos got beef with JRPGs along with japanese gaming in general. Yea Forums can't prove me wrong on this every time they tried.

The difference here would simply be that the ability to unequip Materia is no different than the ability to respec other games.

>And despite her companions having ready access to items and spells that can heal and resurrect, nobody thinks to use these on her to save her life
which reminds me
>playing Tales of Innocence
>Luca is a fucking dumbass and gets slashed by Hasta because he's a fucking dumbass
>Ricardo and Iria, who had their guns pointed at Hasta's head, lowered their weapons and acted all surprised that Luca turned out a fucking dumbass rather than killing Hasta on the spot
>instead, he fled
these sorts of shitty asspulls in storytelling make me furious

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FUCKING DELETE THIS NOOO
OUR NARRATIVE CAN'T WIN WITH THIS FLOATING AROUND

Started a file and realized that it quite possibly has the best intro in any rpg I have ever played. Then I left midgar, ran around the world map and got so much nostalgia, and got so sad remembering being able to just spend all day and night on this game or any other.

Chrono Trigger will always be a timeless classic

You can’t really say it’s going for full realism when so far all of the wacky enemies are still in and mostly unchanged. Every enemy shown so far has been a near one to one with their original design.

>release date
Be prepared to have that shit be pushed back. They did it for FFXV and KH3, it really wouldn't be surprising if they did it for VIIR.

>bra is pulled down an inch or two to make it look like her tits are bigger than they are
You can see curve of the underboob rounding up and the big empty void at the bottom of the bra.

Yuffie doesnt button up her extremely small shorts.

>this is somehow a bad thing
It is. What is even the point of having different characters if they're always all identical to each other from a gameplay standpoint?

Those unique finishers trigger once in a blue moon, so they are hardly meaningful differentiators. And characters in FF7 have only minor stat variations from ach other that are insigfnicant compared to the effcts of materia and equipment.

Uhh, yeah, but those don't count.

>The difference here would simply be that the ability to unequip Materia is no different than the ability to respec other games.
Outside of MMOs, virtually no RPGs have respec, certainly no RPGs at the time of FF7's release.

In recent years though, single-player RPGs have unforttunatly begun added respc, no doubt because of inspiration from MMOs.

kek

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>Chrono Trigger will always be a timeless classic

>one of the blandest and most boring games ever made
>timeless classic

because for like 15 years it was considered the best JRPG ever made, so it was objectively overrated. It's a great game, but not as good as FF4 or FF9

the switch port is the most playable version because you can skip the unbearably boring grind

>Rpgs without good character customization suck
Having no permanence or consequence for customization is not "good customization"

confirmed for not ever having played the game more than twenty minutes. The characters have different base stats, and limit breaks have their own miniature system of statistics to follow and use strategically.

>Chrono Trigger is bland and borin-
youtube.com/watch?v=bNzYIEY-CcM

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>a spiky haired rascal teams up with a princess to travel through time with a frog and a robot to help a cavewoman defeat a lizard empress and also topple a magic empire, team up with a demon mage and finally destroy the mysterious, silent entity that would have destroyed the world

not exactly bland my man

So much garbage in that webM honestly

He already killed the second enemy in that fight before it starts, also didn't let the dog get off the barrier that makes the fight much harder. He is also overleveled for that part in the game so it's easy to just attack and win.
What is this even trying to prove?

>bland and boring
Played it for the first time a year back. Game holds the fuck up. Maybe you just have bad taste, man.

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no dont, that HURTS MY NARRATIVE!

we have already seen tifa fighting and apparently she's more of a single target speedster that keeps one enemy stunlocked, while cloud has access to aoe and barret to range attacks

Probably unrelated but is TWEWY good? Been thinking of picking it up for my DS.

Yup.
>Unique and fun gameplay
>tons of customization of in how you set up your moveset
>fun aesthetics
>great music
>likable characters
It’s a pretty fun time.

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>there was no reason for him to have that personality disorder in the first place, so it's just bad writing all around.
>I Didn't play the game or watch all the cutscenes before giving a useless fucking opinion!

That doesn't really change the point though, does it?

Because...? I think you're conflating that guy bringing up customization with the balance of difficulty.

Yes, and the DS version is the best one. It's definitely worth the experience.

It’s one of the best games to come out of the merger, honestly.

>Those unique finishers trigger once in a blue moon

confirmed for never playing the game. Why do shitters always give their opinion on things they dont understand?

Call me when they show the Hell House or the Heavy Tank. It's not really stunning that they left in generic Shinra grunt A B and C and some pedestrian monsters and robots.

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so far we have even seen those floaty fishes, it pretty much confirmed the hell house and the heavy tank will stay
Hell house will be more mechanical though, not so cartoony maybe.

>being forced to kill the dog
what a shitty game

At no point are you forced to kill a dog.

>Aps
>Sahagin
>Monodrives
>Blugu
Everyone is in so far.

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The irony is it's one of the few "GOAT" games that's not overrated and it's the one that gets called overrated the most to the point where it's no longer even considered an all time great game. Most of the "overrated" cries came from kids who were too young to have played it and they just wanted to shit on it to prop up their own "GOAT" games, and mentally ill FF fanboys (who got into the series post VII) who are snobs about the series, who are storyfags who don't care about gameplay, and pretend that they have some deep appreciation for the amazing generic jrpg writing of the other games in the series; these fags in particular have a special snowflake need to claim some other game in the series is the best like FFII. They resent VII for deviating from the boring mediocrity that is the rest of the series.

>The player must make the difficult choice between fighting his way into the villain's liar or executing Dogmeat
>not forced

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Not one fucking person in the history of ever has unironically said FFII is the best in the series.

Recruiting Dogmeat is optional and it's perfectly viable to fight your way to The Master.

Looks soulless

Losing all your HP is a KO status, not death. The same thing happened in FFV with Galuf and no one memes about that one.

People don't like to hold the popular opinion so they take contrary opinions. FF7 is the best in the series and I hold no nostalgia for it.

2000s era internet hipsterism, was a big deal before the SJW invasion.

>dog is optional
Even fucking worse

>had a bug where the music didn't play during the One Winged Angel fight
now that was weird

>the best in the series

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hell house was always mechanical

rofl

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This is a supreme case of autism.

Did you came from the Early 00's OP? Because that was peak FF7 bashing. Now people don't even care that much about it anymore

I would not call FFX the best in the series

It is VERY OVERRATED.
but mostly because there is this fucking insane cult that will literally shot you dead if you say that any game is better than it.

But that said, it is a quite good game.

Shut the fuck up tripnigger

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It's underrated.

Where? Where is this supposed insane cult of frothing fanboys/girls? They're certainly not on fucking Yea Forums

I skipped FF7 when it released and my first playstation FF game was 8.

I loved the more anatomically correct characters in 8 even though the story in the later parts of the game was a bit bonkers.

After playing 8 I tried to go back and play 7 and the massive downgrade in graphics made it hard to appreciate as much as the people who original played the first 3d FF game which was 7.

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What's funny is that despite the textured character models, FF8 manages to look worse and have worse animations. I wouldn't expect someone who missed the 16-bit era to understand, though.

>OoT to a lesser extent is also guilty of this, with the lengthy and heavy-handed tutorializaing at the start of the game
The main difference with OoT is that the Zelda was previously not known for having cutscenes and a dramatic story. It was primarily an action-adventure genre and 99% of your time was spent on gameplay not story.
Meanwhile the difference between FF6 and FF7 is only a matter of degree. It's a rather large degree (something like 4 hours vs 14 hours of cutscenes), but the structure and therefore expectations where already there.
the entire early game is chock full of NPC dialog and risk-free puttering around Karariko Village, Lon Lon ranch, the Goron Village, Lake Hylia, and Zora's Domain.

If the target audience of the remake is persuaded by this retarded picture I can be quite certain the game is not aimed at me.

I played it for the first time in 2016 and it was an absolute blast.
Yea Forums is just full of tasteless plebs now.

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because it is overrated, and it’s my favorite game ever, just because it hit me at that exact right time, for some people it was ff6 or ocarina, for me it’s ff7. and it’s overrated.

It's underrated.

Yea Forums is fucking disgusting
Imagine hating "movie games" and then praising this absolute disaster upon the gaming industry

It's a "game" for people who wanted movies, not video games. And the shilling was just as disgusting, whole thing is manufactured.

I didn't miss the 16 bit FF games.
My first FF was 6 but I skipped 7 and then played 8.

>whole thing is manufactured.
It's not really, it's just that most people have incredibly low standards.
90% of any media is like that, bitching about people idolizing FF7 is literally yelling at Clouds, might as well complain about TV being trash or the Da Vinci Code being an atrocious book that got way too much praise, you ain't changing that, just move on and enjoy what you like.

i mean yeah it was but you couldn't see it easily as a machine, at least not for me. I always saw it a like a more living creature rather than a machine.

I feel like you are not old enough to have experienced 1990s gaming.
At the time when CD format games were released it was a reward to sit through a CG cutscene.

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>Yea Forums claims to hate movie games
>Loves Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Persona, and Yakuza

I assume people that dislíke it only played it when it was already dated and then dropped it early before the combat got really interesting with later materia

FF7 was dated from the very beginning, like the rest of the series.
And no, the combat doesn't get interesting later either.

I'm not gonna spend 10 minutes arguing against autismal nitpicking that an attack in a game doesn't behave exactly like an attack in a completely different game

FF7 is still peak turn based combat.

ff7 and OOT are two solid games you cant dispute

zoomers praise newer shit which isn't nearly as good.

There were some neat combinations of materia possible, but unfortunately none of them were as useful as just mastering Double Cut.

Bold claim.
And to be the best it would need to be turn based to begin with, which it isn't.

These are all mediocre to bad, except the theme. That's pretty good.

>taking the opinion of anyone on this site seriously since the 2015 spike of zoomer literal nazis that just parrot the first thing they hear about games they've never played
doing it to yourself desu. here's an actual Yea Forums-core take from before this board was worthless

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I bought it last month because the remake was coming out and I wanted to play the original before playing it.

Shit got me into Final Fantasy, I'm currently playing through X now.

People like you are unironically the worst type of poster. Please just shut the fuck up literally forever. Your imbecilically narrow definition you associate with a fucking label doesn't matter to anyone that isn't literally fucking autistic.

X is the best FF.

You can literally leave Dogmeat on the other side of an energy barrier and he'll just sit there, you don't have to kill him

>literal nazis
resetera tranny detected, opinion discarded

No one said it's bad. Just overrated. There's a difference.

It was overrated for a bit but then the overwhelming take on it was that it was overrated so then it became underrated

Completely unironically put a bullet through your own skull, /pol/cuck.

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It's underrated.

Another list from around maybe 2011. Results of a poll. FF7 shows up at #54.

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>dark souls in the top 5
Discarded

Dilate

Just going to dump random old ones since this board is just full of fucking zoomers that don't actually play video games now.

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>One of the best scripted light action games ever made
Yes.

>One of the best RPGs ever made
No.

Because this is Yea Forums and POPULAR THING BAD

For real though I personally don't think it's the best FF and it's nowhere near my favorite but it's still a great game.

Early 2000s stuff. Probably compiled around 2010 due to the Spongebob meme game.

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Essentials list put together by someone in 2011. There used to be a blog where people would post all of these when they got made for easy access.

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>star fox fucking adventures
>Yea Forumscore
Bait image

Similar list from a few years earlier, I'd guess by the games that show up on it (and the games that don't). Probably around 2009.

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>Sunshine

Freeware games list from 2012.

>taking every game in the image seriously when it has a fucking Spongebob game
The people on this board are actual fucking 80iq chimps nowadays. Throwing in shit that wasn't actually liked was a kind of purity test bred by the whole "lurk moar" attitude that was still prevalent at the time.

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It's an excellent fucking game and probably the most important one of my life. You don't have to like it but if you say it's a shit game you're just a contrarian.

stop pushing this braindead meme ATB is turn-based. Active-fucking TURN Battle system. The game is organized with turns, but the queue is populated real-time and there's a separate queue for the enemies.

If you believe the meme that ATB is not turn-based you are a gullible and stupid fuck.

Mega list with a restriction. Disclaimer that there are joke inclusions in the list before spergs again.

Yea Forums has flopped back and forth on Sunshine over time. I think it's safe to say that, historically at least, the board was split on the game. Matches the larger population of players too imo.

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A recommender list from...probably 2014-ish?

Warning for that it has joke inclusions :^)

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PS2 games. Don't think these opinions shifted much over time, but this was probably around 2009 or 2010.

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PSP list from 2013. I'm guessing this was right around the time PSP emulation was just starting to work (with that Java-based emulator, jPcSP or whatever the fuck it was called).

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SMT list from 2013. Fatluses were pretty common back then.

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WRPG list. Looks like ME3 might be the youngest game on the list, so around 2012?

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Yea Forums-core list from I'm guessing around 2010. I think that was the height of the Recettear and DF popularity.

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I want to FUCK Aerith

6 billion gil

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Alright, I'm bored. Remember to keep it vidya, guys. Also, literally gas all /pol/ posters unironically.

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Love the subtle baits sprinkled through this. I forgot Yea Forums used to be funny.

>Wtf lads, why do so many people say this game is """overrated"""
because it is; it's a mediocre game with a competent soundtrack and storyline

How's it mediocre?