Final Fantasy XIV

I main red mage, if procs were half as bad for verfire/stone as they are for dancer's feathers then I'd be equally annoyed. I get procs on rdm all the time on dancer half the time i can't even get four feathers before technical step/devilment come off cooldown

Shadowbringers is on par with HW.

>does shit damage
>has a shit buff
>rotation basically unchanged from 4.0
>actual MP problems
Fuck off RDM is shit

t. Sub9k dps samurai

>I main red mage, if procs were half as bad for verfire/stone as they are for dancer's feathers then I'd be equally annoyed
They're literally both 50%.

>you have a chance to proc a skill that has a chance of proc'ing a feather
You don't do procs on top of procs. That's bad class design.

I've never had a problem, although increasing proc rates would be a fun way to make the class more viable.

go to xivg for that, it’s literally all they want to do

No retard. See you literally need to proc the skill that gives you a chance to proc the feathers. It's too much.

Is there any additional complexity to the class beyond the White Magic/Black Magic hopscotch and the building to the Melee Combo?

It's in the same boat as SAM this expansion, which is to say "no".

Then just don't play the class. I love the way Dancer plays

not really but you can do some cool stuff with it and you have a lot of AoE choices

SAM actually got decent new tools that make it go even faster, aside from Shoha that's just kind of shit, but SAM's so well designed and well-rounded that it's not really a problem. It just needs to do like 7% more damage.

>D-d-dont make my class good!!!! I like bad terrible class!!!

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>75% of these niggers talking crap about red mage end up below me in the dps ranking
>the ones that don't only beat me because they play black mage
Yikes

BLU-exclusive 4-man for 5.1 genuinely sounds fun.

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Sounds like BLU defenders too.

Based or cringe?

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Ironic

iphone filename says "cringe"

Dumb question, but how do I do quest to journey into the Goblet? Whenever I pick a zone to go into on it, and press go, it just returns me saying cannot leave zone. what's up with that?
Is it because I'm a trial player?

Cringe as fuck. This retard acts like only OOOGA BOOGA MUH PDPS matters

>MNK, GNB that high
lol

better have a requirement of 30 spells learned or something on it

high damage good
high raid dps bad
unbunga gunga

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Why wouldn't they be? GNB is competent tank that can take advantage of all remaining raid buffs in the game and MNK, while not very fun to play, does really impressive numbers.
That said that chart is cringe because it was made by a casual clickbaiting retard that at best had one job at 80 at that point.

>high raid dps
>dnc, nin, ast
Oh no no no no ahahahahaha

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See you tuesday

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Dancer's raid dps is so good fflogs literally separated pdps from rdps and made rdps the default in order to accurately measure its contribution to the party..

cute frying pans!

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same

Group content means meta autism will make its way in and ruin it all in a couple of weeks (especially if it has rewards that require a large time investment), unless the content is piss easy, but then it just gets boring in a couple of weeks instead.

DNC's rdps is actually complete utter garbage.
People just got their feefees hurt because DNC can boost a specific person.

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Are you trying to zone in with Ul'dah aetheryte network thing? I think for the first time you need to use west thanalan entry

Imagine, if you would, a group of people who spend all of their time thinking about, obesssing over, and arguing about which brand of scissors is best at cutting an ordinary piece of printer paper. All of these people are completely aware that a pair of crappy plastic safety scissors will cut the paper just fine, all of them know full well that the result is the same no matter what scissors they use, but still they choose to busy themselves day-in and day-out with constant testing and constant discussion of various scissors and cutting techniques. It is ALL they do. If you try to tell them that it doesn't matter, just cut the paper with whatever you feel like, they will get angry with you and try to explain how it is extremely important to know the OPTIMAL way to cut the paper.

That's the XIV raid community.

For someone who found PLD a bit too complicated and had tanxiety sometimes, will i like DRK?

>BLU
>Fun

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I wonder what it'll be. I can't see them being lasy to the point of reusing dungeons, so it's probably gonna be 4 man mini-trials. But 4 man trials have a lot less potential in terms of unique shit, especially since you can't do role specific mechanics.

thats any MMO raiding community user

That pill is on a prescription only basis for cases of braindeath. Sadly I don't have access to it.

no

>actual MP problems
Not him but the fuck are you on about MP on RDM is fine?

clips.twitch.tv/KindRelievedGrassHeyGuys
Is this why XIV players hate WoW, because the game is actually complicated and big brained?

Best outcome is BLU gets a Castrum Meridianum/Praetorium-tier dungeon necessitating group involvement and creative solutions with new and old skills. BLUs get fun stuff and multiple ways to approach a situation, content-whores get something to salivate over for a while, people with a touch of the 'tism where BLU is concerned seethe.

I can't completely ignore that Lucid Dreaming exists so it has MP problems shut up shut up shut up shut up

if you have to raise you're behind on MP forever

I don't actually play a female character in XIV, but here's a rabbit I took like 5 minutes in the character creator to make.

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>mod tells you when to move/use specific skill or item/has a timer on screen of abilities
>big brain
may as well be botting at that point

Should I level up gatherers before thinking about crafters?

tomboy/10, would arm-wrestle needs freckles

OH NO NO NO NO

>Never cared for FFlogs
>Decided to look up if anyone up loaded something with me in it
>People uploaded a few runs when I was farming Titan for the minion as a DNC
>My DNC had only left side Ronka gear, the accessories were all from dungeon, no materia or food buff
>Only did blue parse which if I get it right is not good or bad but just decent
>I'm either always first or second place of doing the most damage
Are most players really that bad?

>PLD
>complicated

Use Requiscat, use Holy Spirit 4 times, finish with Confiteor, do your royal authority combo and spam Atonement to get to max MP in time for Requiscat to fall off cooldown

>BLU
>creative solutions
You can't have anything creative on BLU because all it has is a bunch of shitty CC skills and reskinned 120 potency attacks.

Fuck you, i will

>Behind on MP forever
bitch lucid dreaming is only on 39s of downtime.

That's where I'm trying to go through but game kept returning me and couple other people back saying we can't leave our current area.
I gave up and went to do msq for the time being.

You seem to think I won't enjoy myself tooling around with Ram's Voice and whatever new skills there are in a dungeon scenario, unless you're one of those types that thinks I'm not REALLY enjoying myself.

Everyday until shota bunnies.

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We didn't get amazon female xaela and shota male raen so never ever.

You're having fake fun my dude.

>realized we aren't JUST killing the ascians
>we're literally flooding their soul with light until it splits into shards like ours is

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Considering making new dungeons is apparently a huge time investment for them, I really doubt they would bother with making a whole full dungeon for that. It's probably going to be half a dozen of pseudo trials instead, since that would cut down a lot on the workload while still giving battle content.

If you have to raise a couple times your fucked but that's the same as SB. Once is perfectly fine assuming your using lucid.

wait what? when was this confirmed?

>Making a whole dungeon for blu
>When they couldn't even be bothered to make a LB animation or more than three weapons for it

No we're not. We're killing their soul with aether energy.

Be fucking honest.

All of you were surprised the first time Amaurot came into view.
At least 75% of you felt that the last zone was kinda lackluster for a final zone.
After seeing Amaurot, all of you thoughtthat this was the best final zone in all of the expansion of XIV.

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>lv58
>STILL wearing UN-AUGMENTED ironworks
i sincerely from the bottom of my heart hope none of you do this...

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Yup.

>on par with
No user, thats wrong. What you were meaning to say was "Shadowbringers is better then HW."

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That's literally just the mods they are using telling them how to play. I'd love to see WoW players come up against something like Construct 7.

yeah our light blessed aether energy
that's why no one but us can do it

gamerevolution.com/features/558815-final-fantasy-14-yoshida-interview
>So with the Blue Mage being implemented in patch 4.5, it was introduced with a level cap of 50, we added it as sort of a Blue Mage 101. When Patch 5.1 goes live, we’ll be making a significant update to the Blue Mage. We’ll be raising the level cap and adding Blue Mage specific content where you can team up with four other Blue Mages and go into specialized content. There’s going to be plenty of content for Blue Mages to team up and play together and use the skills you’ve learned from different monsters. In the future, we plan on continuing expanding the Blue Mage even further.

i dont do this, but i also dont have any jobs below 70

no, BLU isnt a job, its a shitty minigame

>better then
fify

how about level 50+ but only in level 10ish gear because all you did was deep dungeon

On the other hand that spud's got good taste wearing the Azure Dragoon-specific version of drachen.

I spent the entire time expecting to be attacked by Splicers.

I like underwater zones though, so I thought we were gonna find like a hidden castle or something. Amarout is okay, really exciting the first time, but to have half the zone be completely irrelevant outside of the story event is wasteful in a MMO. It is almost as bad as Azys Lla.

>shoehorning blu into group content when it was a decent solo experience
God fucking damnit SE.
I'm betting that shit will take the place of the Masked Carnivale too.

What happened with fflogs that has so many people pissed off?

>DUDE I LOVE EATING SHIT I'M SO FUCKING SUPERIOR AND MATURE FOR HAVING NO STANDARDS

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>dungeon
It's going to be more floors of the Masked Carnivale, only now you will need four people to do them.

Wow, so you managed to not skip Moenbryda's cutscenes. Great job user! You stumbled on some DEEP lore there!!

>dude i love measuring my sense of superiority by which parts of a video game i enjoy compared to which ones you enjoy

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What the fuck is this UI
How can anyone enjoy playing anything like this

Best outcome is BLU is made into a full job so it can use all the content in the entire fucking game.

Correct except I loved the Tempest from the start.

>create a bunch of overtuned cancer mechanics so top groups that are ran like a small LLC can put on a free show for you on Twitch
>nerf it after it's cleared
WoW is pathetic.

It's tracking rdps

only time I care about my gear is when
1) Manage to get a piece of gear relevant to me in a dungeon so just slap it on
2) I'm in the endgame shit so I just try and improve my gear as much as possible because why not
3) The game locks me out of progressing unless I upgrade my gear.

Moenbryda's cutscenes happened way before our understanding of the shards being split, as well as souls being fragments of a whole

I'd sooner they delete BLU than scrap what there is of it, what's there isn't enough for a decent job in a raid scenario unless you genuinely want to plink at boomer Titan for eons with Off-guard and whatever replacement to Water Cannon there is at lv. 80.

yes
setting up parsing to see how well you are doing is an actual curse, because you really see how poorly everyone is doing

Normally I'd agree with you but not with BLU man. You've lost this one.

Best outcome is it's a real job that isn't a half finished lazy excuse for the dev team to implement jobs with less effort.

I wanna FUCK those sin eaters.

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They'd have to completely change the structure of blue mage into that of a traditional job, as in they get their skills from leveling and job quests. This allows it to fall into an actual rotation as opposed to all these identical moves that have 120 potency but are in different elements because muh carnivale

If anyone else could channel pure aether then sure they could. Thordan KILLED Lahabrea. I'm sure others can do it too.

fflogs now separates parses into personal DPS (pdps) and raid DPS (rdps).

Raid dps adds any damage you give to other people via buffs, but ignores damage you receive from other people's buffs. This lets you see exactly how much each person contributes and makes it much easier to compare jobs against each other.

Parsing doesn't even have to be for parse trannies is just stuff like that to show you how you improve. You have literally no way of knowing how good you're doing without it unless someone else is parsing and tells you.

Selfish DPS are going to get nerfed especially the melee in 5.1 physical ranged and red mage in line for a buff.

Why are people mad at that

Emet Selch is Ardyn done right.

>zoomed out so far the game becomes a MOBA
>DBM is mandatory
>cluttered UI
WoW has changed so much I barely recognize it.

How is DNC looking now under the lens of rdps?

okdoke

> It's another Tit EX enrage at 12 percent health episode.

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Take 20-30 of his skills and make them mandatory for raiding and rework them into a proper rotation

>RDM doing the most
>AST doing more than the WHM
>That 2nd DNC

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>going about my daily business crafting garbage to jew on the MB for ez money
>see some guy shouting in CWH to borrow gil
>fly up to him and give him a mil
>immediately fly away
>decline his friend request
>continue gathering like nothing happened

Have you done your good deed for today, Yea Forums?

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>RDM at the top
>TWO fucking Dancers
>Cardnigger outdamaging Glare Mage

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Leaving the vast majority of BLU's learnable skills effectively worthless as their only use is on overworld monsters and Masked Carnivale (which we don't know if it's going any farther than lv. 50)

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I honestly hope people are doing more damage than me because that means they are doing above average.

>yoshida stealing someone else's ideas yet again

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>Can't go through the content because you get that one shitter who didn't learn any useful spells or equipped a no damage loadout
Wasn't that exactly what they were trying to avoid in the first place?

I pissed off a German by killing all the Amphipteres in Churning Mists before he could tag them.

Does it matter what Grand Company you join?

I probably would've regretted it and blacklisted him afterwards for the emoticons alone.

At the bottom, but not that much lower than the other rDPS and NIN

>Venery

...

No

>Leaving the vast majority of BLU's learnable skills effectively worthless as their only use is on overworld monsters and Masked Carnivale
That's pretty much how it already is anyway, with how rampant CC and status immunity is.

You will most likely need a preformed party like with all current BLU groups.

Not particularly, just a question of whether you like the ~~Israeli~~ Uldah Defense Force, Hippies or Arse Pirates more.

I wouldn't know

post feet

Generals belong on

Only if you care about PVP, in which case you join Maelstrom.

I like the milk. Thank you for the milk.

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Unless you have a FC group, you are still going to need to gamble with PF.

2 Dancer parties are super cursed.

>Leaving the vast majority of BLU's learnable skills effectively worthless as their only use is on overworld monsters and Masked Carnivale
So exactly as it is now?

Pretty much. The undersea zone didn't really do anything for me until I saw the city. I thought it had nice music but the constant darkness was boring and after my time in Orr in GW2 I was fucking sick of zones that had the 'ocean floor' look.

Amaurot made up for it though. And once you see it you can see the city from all over the zone which is pretty fucking neato, not to mention being able to actually go there. Compared to Ala Mhigo in The Lochs. When you first zone in it looks pretty fucking cool sitting on the plateau but then its just a dungeon and the whole thing falls flat. They definitely learned from that mistake.

has anyone figured out melds for gatherers yet? or at least min stats for guaranteed 100% HQ after unearth3?

Do you care about pvp? Malestrom
Do you care about being the only relevant city state of the 3? Immortal Flames
Do you not care? Twin Adders

Almost every Dancer is crap

No because Ishgard doesn't have a GC.

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>Masked Carnivale (which we don't know if it's going any farther than lv. 50)
If I had to guess, it is going to become the "4 man content". The new levels they add will just be designed for four people instead of one.

Ayyzis Lmao is still my favorite but yeah the amaurot reveal was amazing

A red mage doing DAMAGE? The last Red Mage I was in a party with did significantly less damage then the fucking healers who weren't even in the 1000's.

You're kidding yourself if you think it's going to be hard.

>Hitting up unspoiled nodes on MIN
>Some random nearby says "Froggo!"
>What is he- oh my frog mount. Whatever.
>While waiting for GP he says don't run away.
>As I am waiting, this guy crafts entire set of DoL accessories for me and only asks I gather some logs
>skip the node, gather the logs, and give him all the HQ gourmand crabs I planned on selling
This is like the second positive interaction I've ever had with another player. Made my day.

CC and status-effect immunity is only really a problem at all against dungeon endbosses. Obviously instant-death effects aren't going to work against EX primals and the like but there's some like Titan and bomb-boulders that are still affected by Ram's Voice and other crowd-control skills.

>Always chill when playing
>If we wipe, we wipe let's just talk about what went wrong and try again till we do it
>The entire Team is shit and we need 30-40 minutes for a dungeon?
>Whatever, it happens
>Other players are assholes during a duty?
>After this I probably won't see them again, so who cares?
>Leveling up gatherer
>Have a 80% chance to get the item
>Miss 3 times in a row
>Get really pissed off and want to smash something
I don't think gathering is good for my health.

the fuck did I just watch

I like summoner but there are too many buttons and I get confused with mechanics and skill uptime on harder fights
Should I just level something else? If so, recommend me a fun DPS. I only have BLM/RDM at 70

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Five-man combat puzzles sounds absolutely abhorrent, I don't think that's what they're doing.

>Titania farm parties

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>Gathering collectables at 80 for sands
>99% chance so I don't bother wasting GP to 100% it
>Miss both collect attempts

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Like right now?
>We have all these fun abilities
>I can blow myself up in town XD
All blue mage is for single target is fucking glower spam while reapplying your dot with the bristle. So much fucking fun.

>before stormblood came out
>leveling crafters and gathereres
>doing leves at quarrymill
>some guy runs up to me and trades me
>?
>trades me multiple times and gives me full sets of HQ crafting gear up to level 60
>mfw
why the fuck was he carrying all this

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whatever main city you like to afk in or buy shit off the mb the most, or whichever city's housing you like the most

you can change it at any time, anyway

Make your post again but without being a passive-aggressive faggot about it.

>dude what if we completely ripped off Bioshock for the last zone instead of doing something original?

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What else would they be doing though? BLU's kit isn't really made for straightforward fighting.

>Innocence farm parties

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>TENBATSU DA

You do this every time someone rightfully mocks you for your nonsensical defense of this garbage job. You just sidestep out of the argument with your own passive aggressive horseshit about how you're above responding to insults.

Pretty much

I wonder if it will have any story significance from now on though. Maybe we'll meet the other Ascians phantoms at some point to see what they were like before they got tempered.

>a mil for a home

Hope that nigger plans to camp for days.

The only people who like this version of BLU are blind to the fact it's the single worst version with no content to do and where over 90% of it's spells are useless and are the kind of people I assume are ok having low quality shit pushed out infront of them to eat. But it's ok because using self destruct in town is epic you shit eating mouth breather.

The saddest thing here is that a RDM is the top DPS.

MMOs are known for being the largest online communities for diagnosed and undiagnosed autists.

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I asked for the exact opposite of passive-aggressive faggot responses.

3 mill, he was short 1 mil

nothing goes below 1 mil, all the houses get snatched up by second appraisal, as soon as the timer goes down

doubt he even got the plot

>found the Ryneposting twitter

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>That second post passive
Take your pill and swallow your shitty job faggot. I'm sincerely sorry you can't accept your butchered job turned out to be shit but it's ok because you like it and that makes you better then everyone.

What, you're not enjoying
>Here lemme just teleport you at the wrong fucking time
>Whoops, there goes one of your buddies' souls
&
>Zenos is still fucking alive somehow by being a literal poltergeist

>neighbor changes his roof to something completely obnoxious
>ruins my view
Yoshi needs to add homeowners associations to the game

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The delusion is real

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Or
>Varis: Fuck your races, become redpilled like me so we can merge and create one master race

That's fucking useless, they need to have the rdps being the percentage.

Wait, how many years Has it been?

Housing should have been instanced like in the Realm and Everquest

Prove me wrong

what do you guys think new players suck dick at aside from simple mechanics like stack markers? considering making a brainlet guide for my friends.

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Okay Yoshi.

>They retweeted something of someone who does AlphinaudxAlisaie porn

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100 years from flood of light. Narrative makes it sound like the exarch has been there since the beginning of it

>titania ex farm guys
>go in
>everyone goes stack in the middle
>purple aoe guy comes in to stack too
why does this happen 50% of the time?

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>NOOOOO MY JOB IS GOOD
>NOOOOO IT'S BAD BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT
How does one job inspire this much unfiltered asshurt, Yea Forums? "Can't do real content lmao" and "It's fine actually" types alike bring all of their Asperger's to bear.

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Single players should only people able to own apartments (and apartments should be made slightly bigger to compensate), but FC should able able to buy districts like you current see in game

SB last patch is good though - the meeting with Varis was pretty great, the dungeon was decent, good Alisaie scenes and the whole Zenos fight was fun until the Oracle makes you job.

Is Frey better than Quietus in AoE? It's not like the Frey skill actually explain SHIT in the description.

Reading tool tips,understanding how doom works, positional, using LB correctly

Nah, make instanced housing with upgradable plots that you have to build on in order to increase

I think there should be less expensive but more availible versions of houses that are instanced. I think it would solve most of the housing demand issue. I get that they tried to do it with apartments but they're honestly just too small and horribly cramped since they have no real windows. They could at least give us medium/large apartments.

Just picked up RDM for the first time since 4.5. What the fuck did they do to my MP

use lucid on cooldown and you'll be fine

Doom. But I can't really fault them for that given how it is different every time it shows up.
>Heal to full
>Walk on one shining tile
>Esuna it
>Have every one stand on a glowing pad
>Heal LB it off (not that a new player would ever see that one)

Varis was shit
Zenos fight is just recycled from the first Zenos fight Duty
Twins boss on final dungeon was only redeemable quality
Dont touch my flatchested elf waifu

>Skip on trying to run Titania and Innocence EX because i figure they'd just be terribly boring overly easy fights like Ravana, Bismark, Lakshmi and Susanoo were
>Turns out they are actually more on par with standard EX primal difficutly
Welp, too late now. No way i'm risking my mental sanity with clear groups this far in.

Because rather then just make it a normal job Yoshi P decided to see how lazy he could get and it split the fan base down the middle on whether or not this should have been a normal job. I don't care what your opinions are if they just made it a normal job none of this would have happened.

Optimising DPS during mechanics.

While it affects more than new players, most fuck up their rotation or just stop attacking entirely when they have to reposition.

You should see Titania normal.

i main dancer but they do no damage
if you go into a party with two of it you are asking to be fucked

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>download to try f2p
>immediately bored
When does the game get fun?

WHY IS EVERY MENTOR SUCH A SHITTER
LIKE WHY DO THEY ALL SINGLE PULL/DO NO DAMAGE AS HEALER

WHAT THE FUCK

Your character looks like that smelly au-ra.

Is the YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse thing something that's coming out in the future or did it happen already?

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That line is definitely in the running for dumbest line in the whole game
>"This destruction is not what I intended with my weapon of mass destruction!"

which doom do you have to have everyone stand on a pad?

If the trial isn't enough to keep your attention then the rest of the game won't.

looks like a futa

Qarn first midboss

What's the point of doing the same fight over and over if you don't want to get better and optimize shit? Getting your loot? But then what's the point of loot?

Houses are only 3 mil now? Shit I remember them being 75 mil.

Cause it's content that is intended for casual players, not for 24/7 players like everyone on v/leddit/OF

It makes more sense with what they tell you about Gaius later, he wanted the Ultima Weapon as a bargaining tool for a swift surrender and a way to get rid of the Warrior of Light, he didn't actually intend to destroy Eorzea or anything that wasn't a primal with it.

I do single pulls unless the healer shows competence or asks me to pull more. I often find that the latter results in wipes more than the former.

>Was hoping DRK would get changed back to its superior HW version that got gutted in Stormblood
>Yoshi P and the XIV team instead make DRK an inferior WAR

Why does Yoshi P hate DRKs? He gives damage buffs to WARs and makes PLD and GNB not mind-numbingly boring to play, but he always cucks DRKs.

Coming out likely in the next major content patch, probably in Sep/Oct. Raids are 3 parters, so part 1 will come out at the next big patch and the rest will come later.

why don't tanks just start the dungeon with a big pull and see if the healer can heal it?
if he can't all you have to do is die and go again without doing big pulls

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new emet template

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Isn't that Hades' Doom? It's not "everyone" but there are like five pads when two players get imprisoned.

>and a way to get rid of the Warrior of Light
He didn't even know the WoL existed until that moment. It was just an anti-primal weapon and a way to scare Eorzea into a peaceful surrender.

OR you can simply ask the healer if they are cool with big pulls so no one waste their time.

Guys, i downloaded thiccbringers and i cant take the game seriously anymore. I did a trial and all the female characters had giant futa dicks and Khloe is Idyllshire is naked. Someone send help, academics please respond

Samurai is fun and does good damage.

Artifact augmentation items for dragoon was expensive as fuck, literally spent about 500,000 gil getting all of it.

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>switch to NIN cuz DRG got boring
>gotta keep up shadow fang
>keep up Huton
>positionals
>trying to triple weave mudras every other gcd
>no worse feeling than fucking up a mudra for everyone to see
>can completely waste a 100 second cd if an aoe happens to drop on you
>spamming true north
>can completely waste TA if boss happens to move
>mfw all this to be a TA slave with sub-par dps
Love the aesthetic tho

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If you like the other jobs better why not just play them? This isn't WoW.

>tfw running out of levels 4 levels off of finishing all my crafters
NOOOO

what is gshade

3 for small, 16 for mid, 64 for L

>Posting 2B
We are getting 2P as the main character and you are going to like it.

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gathererbros, what rotation should I use if I'm aiming for aethersand? I only have 755 GP

I accept my chocolate overlords.

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>Monkey's Paw intensifies

>I only have 755 GP
lol

Overmeld some 430 accessories. You're missing out on an extra single mind every node by being

i've been nin since 3.0 and im about to become a sam fag

Hope Caim shows up

>tfw dropping AST for WHM

:^(

>Just use the same old SB rotation for 600 gp.
mind telling me what that is? I pretty much skipped SB

AST is getting buffs soon, right?

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This is either going to be the most kino content in MMO history or kill FF14 forever
I can't wait

Sucky sucky 10 dolla

But user AST is getting HUGE buffs tomorrow.

>What's the point of doing the same fight over and over if you don't want to get better and optimize shit?
I don't know. It's kind of up to you, isn't it? You're not getting any significant reward or building any useful skill either way. If you need to start coming up with extra ways to make it fun then maybe you're already done with the content and just in denial.

If you really want to optimize, you can do that just fine with any old combination of jobs, I don't see how it's fun spending all your time arguing about who is in what shed just so you can finish something you already mastered weeks ago a few seconds sooner.

Because what I like is HW DRK. I want HW DRK. Not this disgrace that is Stormblood and Shadowbringers DRK.

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>sam fag

I'd suggest mnk or drg, both will without a doubt be the safest melee to play this expansion even if drg get's nerfed it will literally always be good and not hell to play.

>kill ff14
????

>He doesn't know

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So how will they buff DNC? Better feather RNG? More potency on ST abilities?

I fucking hate sprouts. Is there anyway to prevent getting in the same party as them in duty finder? They're all literal mouth breathing retards.

every dance move doing aoe damage even if small would help a little bit
since while you are dancing you aren't doing damage

Considering they thought it was an acceptable release state the way it is right now, my hopes are extremely low. Just pushing some numbers around isn’t enough. It needs a full rework. If they don’t give back time dilation and make serious changes to the cards and divination then I just won’t play it. I fucking hate parsefags. It’s their fault all the cards are boring and do the same thing now. I just wanted the job to be fun.

>farming titania ex
>grab tether
>tank runs back through me and takes tether to group
>get blamed and kicked
Why do people feel tanks can do no wrong?

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Quitting the game.

there already is a drg and I hate monk, fuck monk and fuck mhiggers

That wasn't either of your fault desu. Sometimes the tether can be fucky and not latch onto the next person.

Yeah, you make your own party and use the duty finder.

The genre is not ready to receive Taro Unchained

Because finding a new DPS takes 5 seconds, a new Tank can take 5 or more minutes.

They need to cut one of the layers of RNG. Either have moves always trigger their advanced version or have advanced moves always give you a feather. The triple layered RNG for Fan Dance III in particular feels really annoying.

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Do I use Superbolide proactively due to its invuln, or do I save it for panic moments and risk negating the healer's work?

>yfw Yoshi decided not to tell him how the game works so he wouldn't stifle his creativity

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impulse II -> eye proc?
yes -> single mind
no -> discerning eye
methodical
impulse II -> eye proc?
yes -> single mind, utmost caution
no -> discerning eye, utmost caution
methodical
collect

tanks are entitled little cunts just as healers
they can do no wrong and put their fault on you
just accept it

>Anatman now straight up gives you a stack of Greased Lightning, can only be used under the effects of Greased Lightning and only while in combat
>Form Shift adds 5 seconds to your Greased Lightning duration, up to a maximum of 15 seconds

If you don't like proc gameplay then play MCH.

Terrible.

>crystal
LMFAO

panic moments

they clearly designed it to be used when your health is already low so you don't waste health. If you can actually communicate with your health then tell them to just burn the pack and let your health fall so that you can pop it for free mitigation. Always pop aurora right after you use it.

I keep forgetting this raid has 2P 2B on it

SAM has been mnks bitch since it came out and it won't change so have fun.

It shows

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with your healer*

yea i wear unaugmented ironworks until 60, what are you gonna do about it sissy?

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>oh no tank about to die
>use benediction
>GNB uses superbolide 0.1s later

at least it synergizes well with Excog

I saw the map outline when you check Novdrant or whatever the first is called. So I knew something was up. Given it was ?????. I expected it'd be some light-soaked heaven since I had seen a screenshot of Mt Gulg's built up area. When Mt Gulg appeared I expected then the map would be Mt Gulg. When Emet Selch "Ooo whatcha sayyy ooh that you only meant well" Graha Tia I realized the tempest would be the final zone. When we went down there I expected it'd be an interior, subterranean palace. Maybe Atlantis. I saw the glowing lights in the distance and figured it was lots of buildings half-swallowed up by the earth. Did not expect 1930s Chicago. It is definitely my favorite zone and it was so good it ended up making me kind of annoyed they only used it for a single half of a zone. It easily deserved to be it's own zone or damn well it's own expansion.

I didnt' feel the tempest was bad though, since I knew something would be up in the 2nd part of it and as soon as you saw the buildings half-covered by soil and earth it was clearly going to be Atlantis

>using any healer besides WHM

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>Form Shift adds 5 seconds to your Greased Lightning duration, up to a maximum of 15 seconds
This is basically just admitting defeat on Monk's design. It's saying you have no idea how to make keeping Greased Lightning interesting or fun so just make it an effortless permabuff like Enochian or BotD.

And instead of Anatman giving a stack of GL right away they should just change it so it doesn't give stacks at all so we can get rid of this shit thinking that it's really cool to use a downtime tool in the fucking opener.

>Use superbolide proactively
You do this shit and I'm vote kicking you.

Nobody's going to kick you for one screwup. I've seen people literally explode one of the stars with an AoE in innocence and cause a wipe and nobody even batted an eye

It's trash with pugs but great with statics just because of the coordination. Living dead is still in the shed and always will be, it seems.

Superbolide isn't even bad, Living Dead is the problem child.

Have you not joined a farm party yet?

I'll kick people if you screw up. I'll excuse enrage but fuck off if you don't know how to do tethers.

>"Of course I wear Ironworks to 60, how can you tell?"

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WHM will be getting disgusting nerfs in two days, sweetie.

Then you don't know Gaius. He's a conquerer, not a murderer. He only attacks when he knows he can win and inflict the least amount of casualties, he canned the black rose project because what's the point of conquering something when every man woman and child is dead

Wow. Yea Forums really runs a meme to the ground huh and I thought rdditors were worse

I see less nerfs on WHM and more kneejerk buffs on AST

Are they going to add new servers for NA? My once comfy low pop server is congested now

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Stop turning in LQ shit

On the face of it Ultima Weapon seems perfectly reasonable - capture primals and keep them from being reborn. We just know after binding coil et al that caging primals is bad business

>Yea Forums
Maybe you should go back

AST would deserve all overbuffs at this point, just as an apology to anyone that bothered playing it in 5.0 and anyone that used to enjoy it.

>divination has a 3 minute cooldown
what the fuck were they thinking

>He still believes that

Much as i have extreme faith in this games' devs since they have again and again delivered great content, i'm still unconvinced that they'll be able to make a Nier raid that actually feels like it fits in the XIV universe

Living Dead is so bad that DRK is the only tank that can't solo T9 at level 80.

sorry. 4CHANNEL hehehehe xD epic memes! upvotes to the left please

Of course I fucking farm you retard. Just because you're an autistic spaz who flipa out at dumb shit doesn't mean everyone is.

Bot only that, but it's only 9% damage for 15 seconds. With that CD, it should be 15% damage for 30 seconds

>licking hiro's boots this fucking hard

>Flips out at dumb shit
>Dude fucks up the easiest of mechanics
oh okay. good luck getting a farm going when that retard is going to keep wiping you.

Paladin is the simplest of all the tanks, if you can't understand that then you're unironically retarded.
>Tank anxiety
Dilate or grow a pair and get over it by literally just playing the game

It's a good use of it, but you need a macro to tell healers know in dungeons

Yikes

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>9%
I wish

>i know ill fish while i wait for queue
>second i cast my line it pops

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who?

Oh right, it's actually 6%, even worse.

look in the back
that's 2b

>9% damage
You fucking wish, at best it's 6% when you get 3 different seals.

If they even attempt to it'll probably be related to the bad-future that the Crystal Exarch comes from since they reverse-engineered Alexander and Omega.

>180s cooldown for a whopping 6% party buff for 15s
>Collective Unconscious is still the worst "sustained AoE" compared to Asylum and SS, wimpy 50 potency regen compared to 100
>literally everything about new Celestial Opposition
>Nerf Synastry's cooldown
>Nerf Earthly Star
>Nerf Combust 2 and make Combust 3 weaker than Combust 2 used to be
>Weakest DPS overall anyways
>Horoscope is fucky
>Neutral Sect isn't that great
>Remove healing bonuses from regular sects

I hear he has him playing the game now and he is on HW.

Bros

WAR or GNB?

I've been told that WAR is a direct downgrade from 4.0 design/gameplay wise, while GNB hijacked its identity essentially.

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I don't even care about the shit potency or the shit range. It's the fact that you get all of the seals within 10 seconds because of redraw stacks and lightspeed and spend over two minutes popping minor arcana. You literally have nothing to do except heal in a panic because your heal potency is garbage and you don't have any good heal tools outside of two cooldowns, that, once expended, you will be completely unable to keep the tank up in big pulls.

What a fucking nightmare. I don't understand how they playtested the changes and thought "yeah, this is okay". And then your fucking cards not applying out of combat, so you get the seal you're looking for in between pulls, tank pulls but you're not on the agro table so you try to apply it, it doesn't apply and it doesn't give you the seal. It's simulatenously tedious to use the cards because of the extra play abilitity, and boring because the cards themselves do nothing, and not even worth the effort because the damage buffs are so minimal.

Jesus fucking Christ I cannot believe how hard they fucked it up. AST used to be one of the most fun jobs in the game for me too. I have never seen another job in a worse state before.

>It doesn't matter if a class is a chore to play and isn't fun, LOOK AT THE DAMAGE!!!!!!
actually kill yourself

GNB

Don't forget them adding an effect that increases Nocturnal Aspected Benefic mana cost. As if Nocturnal weren't niche enough already.

WAR's self-sustain got nerfed and backloaded to Nascent abilities much later on with the removal of its tank-stance Beast Gauge abilities, GNB has survivability problems if you don't use its cooldowns correctly. GNB did take its spot as "blue DPS" but tank-damage in general is so similar it hardly matters.

Those are players dingus

War is the same as it ever was, the problem is everybody else got upgraded with the arguable exception of DRK according to DRK-fags.

it's even possible to do farm parties with 2 DNC?
or it's aways gonna be low on dps?

This is literally what my aura looks like, I guess I need to change my hair color now

You forgot to list how fucking clunky sleeve draw is

WAR is exactly the same. GNB doesn't play anything like WAR has ever played at any point.

The reason you sometimes see people complain that WAR has "lost its identity" is because they think WAR's identity is "does the most damage", in a game where damage is the only job parameter that matters.

Not to mention they removed the fucking stun from collective unconscious, a 120 second cooldown while WHM gets a infinite aoe stun on demand on fucking GCD. The removed the fun part of the ability (to extend buffs), they turned it into a puny, worthless regen, and they removed the stun when AST desperately needs it.

What the fuck.

I dunno whose idea it was to make designated buttons for draw and play, it was fine before as the same command, I don't want to deal with any more buttons for cards than I have to.

In case you didnt notice, it's not just AST. All utility jobs got major nerfs except DRG. Even DNC sucks besides padding. AST, NIN, and SMN all got the shaft be ause they were afraid of more people locking out jobs that dont provide buffs.

That said I have no clue why DRG didnt get the same fate, but good on them I guess.

>WAR

not unless you want to press path combo 3 times in a row 20 times a fight with that GOD awful animation.

AST is also the only healer that has to switch targets from the tank to deal AoE damage.

Anyone have a guide of crafting macros for most levels?

use invulns when you would otherwise die. If some attack wasn't going to kill you if you didn't use it then you're using it wrong.

Both WAR and DRK got cucked out of their main sustain. DRK got shafted harder because it could spam abyssal drain like a mother fucker with big pulls in SB. It was literally the only redeeming factor after HW. Now all it has is TBN, which is actually good padded dungeon sustain, but it still sucks.

>MNK and GNB
>chores to play
But that's WAR/DRK and SAM/NIN.

AST got the biggest shaft any job has ever gotten in the entire history of the game.

I wouldn't really call SAM a chore to play, it still flows incredibly well and smooth.
It's just more rigid in its rotation with the removal of Hagakure.

I do about 9k, I think that's fine. Sure I could do more as another job but other people are getting buffed so it makes up.

well the problem is more AST's everything is really weak and fucky because they were overselling the party utility again. Who the fuck approved this?

>Malefic 3 is the weakest spam spell (240 potency while Broil 3 is 280 and Glare is 300)
>Gravity is the weakest AoE spell with no real benefit (130 potency while Holy is 140 with stun, Art of War is 150, Gravity is also the only one that needs to be targeted)
>Combust 3 (Pic related)

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Let's be honest. This whole game is a chore to play.

>final zone of HW was Azys La
>final zone of ShB was The Tempest and AMAUROT

>final zone of SB was The Lochs

What went wrong with Stormblood?

I do. Mostly because I level my alts through duty roulettes and hope to god I don't get anything level related.

I'm really lazy with healer DPS, so it can be buffed a bit but I would prefer the cards and heals buffed over personal dps

PLD, WAR and DRK are all extremely similar to one another, unless you're nitpicking. The dps is such a small difference, that a single misstep in your play can mean you're out dps'd by the other.

The big difference is GNB. It is easily the squishiest out of the bunch unless your mitigation tools are handled efficiently (most people are too braindead for this, hence all the gnb memes currently about bad players). However, we know that mathematically it scales better than the other tanks dps wise, and as the expansion goes on will pull further away in dps.
I actually think that WAR is the new king of mitigation, or so I've been told by an omni tank savage prog player in a static that competes for world firsts.

I'm curious to see the upcoming balance changes and if they touch WAR/DRK.

you can beat both ex's with 2 same tanks, 2 same healers, and 4 same dps. all that matters is that people are good and not shit.

I miss DRK Sole Survivor, really helped me solo the ARR Extreme fights in SB.

Sell what you know.

You might be the dumbest man on earth. I specifically said ONE screwup

DRK and WAR are similar.

PLD and GNB are similar.

You have to do fuckery with the former to get party buffs to line up and you just do the same thing over and over again with the latter and it just werks(tm).

HOLY FUCK

>no dupes
But why though?

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alright, I hit the wall on my combat mains so now I can fuck around
which DoH class is most useful for making glamours?

>tanking Titania ex
>know the fight so well it's fucking robotic
>all you can do, over and over, is watch the others fail at tethers and AOEs repeatedly
WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT
EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED OF US AND STILL, STILL IT CAME TO THIS

less damage

I need to make new DRK Macros

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I honestly think that the ideal prog combo is going to be WAR/PLD. War because of all the mitigation and self healing, allowing healers to dps more / autopilot and paladin for all the utility.

Leatherdaddy

There's already been a hint dropped that it may have something to do with the machine graveyard in Kholusia.

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I can't wait for future threads to cling to "no content lmoa" blue mage shitposting on the day of 5.1's release.

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>here's your new party member bro

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If you queue while you're the adventure in need, but before it pops the bonus shifts, will you still get it when you end the dungeon?

You will.

So, I mean, we went pretty far in the cosmic scale of conflict with the ascians. What happenes from here when we unfuck the 1st? Aside from Elidibus there isn't much left of the zodiark plot. Zenos just seems like filler since not only did we kill him once, but if we can banish a soul like Hades then his will be pretty easy to kill too. I'm concerned they may have escalated a bit too much this expac.

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>I don't see how it's fun spending all your time arguing about who is in what shed just so you can finish something you already mastered weeks ago a few seconds sooner.
I don't think that user bought up the "shed" meme. at all. You did.

Some people enjoy optimizing their classes and doing better. Yeah green parsing dps can clear everything in the game, but some people find enjoyment out of doing more, and that's okay because as long as we're enjoying the game, it's a good thing user, no need to be bitter and strawman the dude.

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>Casual content
>Need either a level 70/80 friend to spam the fuck out of ex primals or a dedicated group of 8 BLUs to grab any of the end game spells
>The drop rate is so low you need to grind like it's a raid
>For casual players
What did you mean by this?

I know there has to be some SAM ones out there. There is no way there isn't.

people won't let me in as a dancer which i don't mind that much
but when i join people fail the fucking stack with purple aoes on two random people
why people fuck this up

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>Grind CRP and LTW to 70 using Heavensward 40 DUR collectables
>BSM and ARM both have Titanium Ingots as their 40 DUR collectable
>Would need ~1500 Titanium Ore
>It's a fucking hidden material

Having no leves left is suffering.

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The bonus applies when you queue, not when the instance pops.
If you queue while your role is the adventurer in need, you will get the bonus.

Anyone disappointed how Lyna turned out? I was hoping she would join your posse but she didn't.

minifilia is CUTE!

fist clencher.

>tfw like the class story and aesthetic of DRK too much to ever give up on it

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nin isnt a chore to play, its just not worth it since you're basically playing a keyboard piano that doesnt make sound

The Zodiark arc was planned to be a 10-year-long storyline. It will end in 6.0 or maybe 6.3. After which, we'll probably get a whole new overarching storyline to carrying FFXIV into maintenance.

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No, fuck Viera

Hope your rich user.

You don't become a mentor by being good at the game.

You become a mentor by being a hamster wheel grinding autist who spams every job to max level in brainless dungeons without learning how to play.

with pleasure

new best girl.

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Weaver
Most of the treasure map glams are weaver crafts

One day bro one day. Maybe in an expansion dedicated to us, oh wait.

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>No
Nah fuck that I know you can. Put that finger on the benefic 2/Aldo/cure 2 button and let's go BOI

Yes please

cute feet

What job would she play?

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REALLY hope they'll have weapons in this raid, or at the very least SOME way to get nier weapons alongside the armor

>expecting nier armors
lmao

>esports commentary on raid attempts

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I see. I wonder what the next sort of stuff might be.

this game needs some put-the-team-on-your-back rescue mechanics that reward me when I'm doing great but my team is about to wipe

but we will have armors just like every raid?

We're going to the moon to defeat Zodiark, and then after that some shocking tweest will happen and a more ancient evil will awaken, probably whatever caused the apocalypse in the ascian world in the first place.

Either that or it's the cheap route of Hydaelyn is evil.

The Void (big allusions to this in the current Eden storyline)
The ruins of Allag
of course, Garlemald expansion (ew but also it just needs to happen because i'm ready to be over it)

They would make a mod to read your HP and tell you which pool to stand in

>cheap route of Hydaelyn is evil.
how is this cheap?

expect gender neutral shit with an asscape

Please god, no more Allag shit.

To the moon you say?

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Their raids taken hundreds of wipes to clear with addons. Its just that much harder.

XII and Tactics gear was added nearly unaltered. I don't see why they wouldn't do that again.

>(ew but also it just needs to happen because i'm ready to be over it)
Man I feel this too 100%.

Too easy to guess and already largely disproven with everything the Ascians have told us about Her.

You're disrupting my usual shitposting subjects by proving you've actually played the game, stop that.

Paizuri Knight

newfag here, just finished the 3.3 MSQ. Am i correct in assuming 3.3 is the real ending of HW and the remaining MSQs will be setting up Stormblood?

I don't think Hydaelyn is "evil" but I think she's going to have to die before this story ends. It may be a tragic death.

Yes, we already know this, and any savvy player should have noticed the major lack of FF4 bosses in the game as of yet, because they're saving them for the moon expansion. Expect the four archfiends for trials and the Lunar Subterrane/Zeromus as the raid.

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xii and tactics gear was all male shit though, beside female samurai

I like The Lochs but it feels more like a penultimate area rather than a final area

I suppose I can see the moon being 2 zones or so with a lot of Allagan ruins/buildings to justify the lack of breathing. I mean for the WoL it'll be fine, for the scions not so much.

Because it's the first and most obvious route to go and every JRPG under the sun has already done it, plus it would even be redundant after we've already had a light is evil expansion.

3.5 sets up Stormblood more than anything, Shadowbringers almost totally picks up where Heavensward left off with the Warriors of Darkness storyline (~3.4? can't recall)

i am a big ff4 fan i really hope this happens so i can jerk of my nostalgia dick

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How would (YOU) fix Astrologian Yea Forums?

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Not as bad as a tank still using a 70 set at level 77 and refusing to use cooldowns. Yep, totally my fault when we wipe after they pull wall to wall, not the tanks fault at all.

Good. Can't wait for the Soken version of IV music.
youtube.com/watch?v=LT803dOa_TY

Gaius didn't mean to nuke half his fucking castrum together with all the soldiers that were directly under his command.

Take them all out back, shoot them and dump them in a mass grave.

Literally just revert it to how it was in SB

>Barbariccia in HD

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Nothing in WoW is remotely close to being as hard as Ultimate. Raids in WoW only take longer to clear because they have more bosses and way more gear/time gating.

This Raid's gonna fucking age like milk.
Who the fuck thought having a permanent cross over was good? And don't say Monster Hunter because they're not the same at all

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>When the sprout doesnt pick up the key for the magitek armor

Zodiark fight btw

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Hydaelyn is not good and Zodiark is not evil. But that doesn't mean their existence should be tolerated.

>Nothing in WoW is remotely close to being as hard as Ultimate
I would love to see FFXIV raiders try to clear shit like Mythic G'huun or no keepers Yogg. I like FFXIV but the endgame content is not nearly as challenging as WoWs

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>dialogue-tree in the storyline before the mandatory Barbariccia trial/solo instanced fight
>playing as a dragoon in that cutscene lets you respond "Confident in aerial combat?"

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Aside from reverting them idk. But I know they will not be reverted. They need something to make the card system a bit more interesting than the lucky charms. It's a good base for a mechanic but it's like they're saving something else for next expac to add upon it. it feels incomplete

Honestly i've always felt like we should fight Zodiark and Hydaelyn at the same time, and ShB only fueled this thought. Then after we beat them we can have the ancient amaurot-ending evil awakening.

Garlemald would have kept my interest if Varis stayed alive, but with Zenos the interest has plummeted. I'm not a huge fan of Allag either, but I feel like only the Void/13th (but we already smashed the cloud of darkness) and the Lavos/Jenova beneath the earth are the best options. It'd be a rehash of Nael but I can see a Garlean, like the legatus we see in the Ivalice ending cinematic, being the conduit that has the scream in the source (weakened form) corrupting.

Or be cheap and have Zenos hijak the scream. I mean if it takes control of creation magick then he'd have the perfect tool to force the WoL to mano-a-mano him with no magick.

You first, tranny lover

I usually keep the [1] sign on hotkey for that if I see any sprouts in the party.

Change it back and tell parsenigger to shut the fuck up. The whole point of cards is random chance. Deal with it.

>Still no 4 Emperors Raid Tier

>only a few more days until AST becomes the top healer

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futa?

>Divination has a two minute CD now
>Sleeve Draw now passively makes Draw a three charge action
>CO gets its stun back and its CD lowered to 90sec
>Synastry back down to 90sec
>Combust 3 to 55, 2 back to 50.

You know, it makes me sad to think that this game will end someday. Better than seeing it live long enough to become bad i guess.

i like how the model has nothing to do with the art

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Why not? What has Hydaelyn done that's unacceptable? She's an Amaurotine primal, which means she isn't consuming aether.

No adjustments till 4.1, prease understandu

>it took almost an entire thread for somebody to obligatorily respond "t-t-tranny"

Why are you so desperate for a dicklizardgirl?

All of these ideas are going to amount to a patch/dungeon content. It's all been spent and after going to completely new world in 5.0, I expect nothing else but an entirely new direction for the Zodiark Finale.

I don't see us fighting Hydaelyn after everythign Emet-Selch said. I imagine she kamikazes to give us a shot at destroying Zodiark ourselves.

FFXI is almost 20 years old and they have some kind of major surprise planned for the 20th anniversary. XIV isn't going anywhere soon.

>What has Hydaelyn done that's unacceptable?
Shatter the world into 14 lesser reflections?
Yes it was to stop Zodiark but honestly that was a horrific act.

>What has Hydaelyn done that's unacceptable
Sundered the source into thirteen imperfect reflections whose inhabitants lead miserable, powerless lives.

>t. tempered by Hydaelyn

Unironically wish they would make Zenos just trip, fall over, hit his head and die or something. Such a fucking garbage character that they keep trying to shove down our throats.

Every time

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*tips symbolic glowinc mask*

Brainlet detected

We're never gonna run out of Allagan shit.

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Killing her wouldn't put everything back together. And if it did, would it even be the same world? Would the current life even be able to continue existing? Because everything to do with Hydaelyn, Zodiark, and the Ascians is drawing from FFXI and in that game the original world was incompatible with all life that came after the Mothercrystal was split.

She's a "complete" primal, is the important bit. Zodiark was still excessively aether-hungry and 75% of their impossibly aether-rich race was snackrificed to it. Primals bleed the world dry of aether because summoning magic is Amaurotine creation-magic, and with every beast-tribe or summoner envisioning something all-powerful when they invoke a summoning they require unsustainable amounts of aether to complete their existence.

What's worse, sprout in praetorium, or getting a sprout to touch the portal in Halatali?

>the spire

I like ffxiv but isn't this just a general?

>Spread returns.
>Card effects can be applied when out of combat.
>All card effects now give 6% increased damage (to any role) and last 15s, and also have 1 other effect:
>The Arrow: Increases movement speed by 15%
>The Bole: Reduces damage taken by 10%
>The Ewer: Restores 200MP every 3 seconds.
>The Spire: Reduces cast times by 15% (does not affect recast time. Only affects spells with a cast time that is equal to or less than their recast time)
>The Balance: Causes weaponskills and spells to regenerate HP equivalent to an 100 potency cure.
>The Spear: Increases the range of all actions by 1 yalm.
>Seals are removed. Instead, every time the AST plays a card while in combat, they receive a stack of "Foresight", up to three.
>Divination now costs 3 Foresight stacks instead of seals, and its cooldown is reduced to 120s.
>Minor Arcana now costs 1 Foresight stack, and it works differently. Minor Arcana can be used at any time (instead of only when cards are drawn) and applies a buff to the AST depending on whether you draw Lord or Lady of Crowns. Lord = The effect of your next card is twice as strong. Lady = The effect of your next card lasts twice as long. You can only have one of these buffs active at a time.
>Sleeve Draw works more like how it used to. It now draws a random card (irrespective of the Draw cooldown), adds another random card to your Spread, and gives you the buff of either Lord or Lady of Crowns. Its cooldown is reduced to 120s.
>Time Dilation returns with a 90s cooldown. It doubles the original duration of a card effect on one party member (+15 seconds for 15 second card effects, +30 for 30 second card effects).
>Gravity now also applies 5% Slow for 10 seconds.
Plus general buffs to healing potencies/cds

>Zodiark was still excessively aether-hungry and 75% of their impossibly aether-rich race was snackrificed to it
Only to fuel his miracles.

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So it's a chore

Many would die in the various rejoinings as is explaind. Then, if they do rejoin every shard, the ascians were going to offer up whomever remained to zodiark to revive their old pals.

Nigga literally the entire reason the Nier raid exists is because YoshiP realized they should add crossover items but Taro is too autistic to include them without some dumb bullshit

Nope it's just a game with a lot to talk about.

>rdps update on fflogs
>dancer trannies suiciding because groups don't want them anymore
FUCKING BASED

Are SMNs actually having problem doing DPS because of their rotations? I refuse their DPS is shit.

This has happened like 5-6 times already to me when SMNs are in the party. I have one sample here during my expert roulette in Twinning earlier. Yes I know it's just a dungeon but still it's an example. That's BLM > WAR > SMN > AST. My BLM was just iLvl 433 or something. While the SMN was a a 439. The other times I've been with a SMN were mostly the same. I had a 3 Titania EXs were the SMN was just doing around 7.5k-8k.

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Killing her would prevent her from messing with the affairs of inhabitants of different reflections and exploiting the echo-capable sentients for her end.
>And if it did, would it even be the same world? Would the current life even be able to continue existing
An incomplete rejoining with at least one of the shards lost to the void would most likely produce a fucked up world, but Ascians considered that an acceptable tradeoff if Zodiark was brought about. I'm personally in favor of destroying Hydaelyn because it purges the remnants of the old from the new. If a rejoining is not meant to be and all of the shards are to lead a balanced existence, Zodiark, Hydaelyn and the Ascians, all of them have to be destroyed.

>Divination has no cooldown.
>Bring Royal Road back since there isn't much reason it can't coexist with Divination and Seals.
>Potency increases across the board.
>Maybe give ED three charges instead of just two.
>Give Malefic a cool floaty casty animation like Gravity and upgrade Gravity to Gravity II.

That's damn near orange for SMN. They're just a bad job right now.

>prevent her from messing with the affairs of inhabitants of different reflections and exploiting the echo-capable sentients for her end.
She already doesn't do that, she's only provably intervened where Zodiark or a Rejoining was concerned.

When was the last time hydaelyn even spoke to us?

>but Ascians considered that an acceptable tradeoff if Zodiark was brought about
You should do the final role quest because it revealed they had a plan for fixing the Thirteenth.

oh no
i powerleveled dancer just to find a savage spot on tuesday

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3.4, yeah. Which is why the patches will be the big deciding factor in what goes forward. The patches, 3.3 to 3.4, are also going to be what hints at new content: You had Fran show in 4.4 (or was it 4.5), you had Alisaie show the first glimpse of RDM in 3.4, you had Yugiri unmasked in 2.4 or 2.5 I think, you had Thancred and Yugiri show rogue/ninja in 2.2 (and it's released in 2.4?). If you see something new race (no new races, so this would mean a male viera or female hrothgar showing up) wise or class wise in an NPC around 5.4 or 5.5, odds are it'll suggest a hint.

I believe the only reason Amaurotine summons do not drain aether from the world around them is because the amaurotines are so aether-rich they are able to maintain their summons easily (The way a summoner does their egi). That, or I assume if you create a life form in a certain way they become self-sufficient in consuming/producing aether. I distinctly recall Yshtola saying something about how Amaurotines were just filled to the brim with so much aether it makes the divided beings like the scions look like deserts.

I've heard someone suggest that. That 6.0 is going to see the world transformed the way I think they said FF3 or FF4 was? Where the divided worlds merged into one? I didn't play it so I am going off recollection. I think FF6 does something similar? But basically a WOW Cataclysm scenario. That'd be kind of crazy, actually - what if Emet-Selch ends up winning in a way? Where the rejoinings happen all at once without the other worlds being destroyed, but rather the 4 + first somehow merge with the source. I am skeptical because it'd mean phased zones with a level 22 and a level 82 seeing a different world, but it's a crazy thought.

Honestly, I'd keep the 3/6% damage buff distinction, and add an additional effect to the card.
But to make the cards and playing them somewhat interesting, the additional effects would be for the other role, for example the melee 6% damage cards would have effects beneficial to ranged, and vice versa.

patch 3.4?

BRD is not that bad
MNK is not that good
WAR should be at the bottom
SCH should be in A
Other than that its okay

>Every card has minor effects
>Spire grants over a 1000 spellspeed
What the shit?

>tfw no more lightspeed lucid gravity spam extended by CO because AST isn't allowed to be a time mage

nope.

Have: WHM, DRG, PLD, MCH, MNK and SAM at 80
what next? DRK? SCH? DNC?

wasn't the reason Amaurot was destroyed was that the people themselves went crazy, and all that creation not only created the monsters that not only killed people (which also made them make even more monsters in their pants-shitting terror) and all that going on caused the fabric of reality to fray?
I've heard some say it was a sound that started everything out and it dominoed from there, but I suppose the question of where it came from does leave open the possiblity of something deliberately causing it

>exploiting the echo-capable sentients for her end
Her "end" is preserving the life created by Zodiark after the Amaurotine calamity.
She only interferes when said life is in danger of getting wiped out, mainly by Ascians.

>I believe the only reason Amaurotine summons do not drain aether from the world around them is because the amaurotines are so aether-rich they are able to maintain their summons easily
It's because they create a whole being right from the start because they just have so much aether. When a modern person does it, the primal is basically summoned in an aether-negative state and is constantly trying to make up for that. But for some reason it also grows more powerful as it consumes that aether and exponentially requires more and more.

>mnk not that good
>consistantly pulls 12k dps easily and has brotherhood
huh?

I stand corrected then. The longer this goes on, the more I become inclined towards the Ascian side of things. There's only one concern remaining however. Emet claimed that they had become tempered by Zodiark. Wouldn't that mean that they had lost their true free wills, or Ascians have some sort of a resistance towards the usual insane mind control tempering incurs? So if we assume that Ascians successfully carry out the rejoining, revive all of their pals after sacrificing an immeasurable amount of lives and then all of them become tempered by Zodiark and become its witless slaves? That doesn't sound like an altogether favorable outcome.

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Divination is an awful concept and the new seals suck. For using the excuse of "job identity" to keep garbage like living dead, they sure threw all card personality out the fucking window, and all the time mage shit with time dilation/celestial.

>I distinctly recall Yshtola saying something about how Amaurotines were just filled to the brim with so much aether it makes the divided beings like the scions look like deserts.
Yeah, about when Amaurot is revealed to be one gargantuan summon is when they start establishing the extent of creation-magic. Amaurotines were incomprehensibly, impossibly powerful by the standards of a sharded spoken and could create life both existing and imaginary without expending much effort. According to the one that gives you a creation-matrix to summon your own amaurotine robe, creation-magic was instinct to them.

Are you truly so pathetic you need other people to decide for you?

Yeah someone put a whoopie cushion in elidibus's chair before their evil council meeting, people flipped their shit

gay retard

WoW raiders who come over to FF14 are losing their shit at even pedestrian stuff like Thordan EX and Neo Exdeath. They'd keel over and die from attempting Ultimate. The few people I've heard from who have killed both the hardest WoW fights at release and UCoB say UCoB is harder.

She has no right to interfere with anything that wasn't created by her. All of them need to fuck off, Hydaelyn is no exception.

I would rather have a job in this PvE game be 0.00005% better than the others rather than a completely unplayable shitfest of a job. Fucking parsetrannies are so obcessed with efficiency that doesn't even matter since anything can be cleared with any job combination that they'd rather have the job completely gutted

Wouldn't work, people will always pick damage over utility, that's the whole reason the card system has always been fucked. For choices to be compelling in XIV they have to be DPS neutral because DPS is king above all else. Also it's hard to make effects that are beneficial specifically for physical ranged because they already have no restrictions on anything.

>Does not affect recast time
All it does is give you more time to move between casts

I haven't really seen why anyone would want to side with the ascians except "dude they can create shit with their minds bro" like cool they wanna bring back their jedi pals but they're dead and not worth billions of dead people

>Gives you a creation matrix to make your own robe
>Just gives you a lightning Crystal
What

>The longer this goes on, the more I become inclined towards the Ascian side of things
That makes no fucking sense. Shadowbringers conclusively demonstrates that the ascians are in the wrong, no ifs ands or buts. They are nothing more than bitter old men who can't let go of a long dead civilization and are willing to sacrifice countless innocents to see it brought back. They are some of the least sympathetic villains ever.

Yeah, I'm talking about BLM, why would you use that on any other job?

Not all primals totally strip a person's will with their tempering. Ifrit is really the only one we've seen that does. It just makes them loyal to the primal above all else. Bahamut's tempering, for example, left Nael functioning well enough to live a "normal" life for over a decade. But it did make getting the Meteor Project approved her main goal.

Wink-wink-nudge-nudge at Weavers using lightning crystals for their crafting.

Shadowbringers has the characters *in the world* flat out state that if they were in the same situation, they may have even done the same thing and that while the Asicans goals might be relatable, it's their methods they take umbrage with. C'mon now.

The shards were created by Her, you retatd.
And what gives the Ascians the right to interfere with the shards, the new life wasn't created by them, it was created by Zodiark.

Seems like it would be useful for any caster to me, it's not a DPS increase. BLM could potentially get the most use out of it but all casters need to cast, including healers.

yeah that one was fucked, considering you COULD summon that one guy's toy-slimes just fine, and that's probably more complex than a robe

lakshmi?

THE NOISE

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Ahhh, I haven't touched crafting. It seems really involved.

The very first Amaurotine you encounter says, I am too lazy to quote verbatim but "Tis said it starts with a cacophonous keening beneath the earth. All living things that hear it are distorted. And it wrests control of our creation magick away from us. Once that happens, all is lost. Fear, pain, anger, all dread impulses are given form"

Subsequent quests has us see how the slightest mental distraction can drastically change the intended creation, but that normally Amaurotines have control over the application of their magick, they just do not have total control over the result. The sound explicitly distorts living things that hear it (so not just amaurotines or ancients but plants, animals) and it takes over control of Amaurotine magicks. Simply put the process is:

>Sound screams from beneath the earth
>Any living thing that hears it is fucked up and distorted
>Any creation magick capable ancient can no longer control how or when their creation magick is applied. Something else controls it, or it's set permanently on "on".
>Normally they would have to consciously practice it, but the sound takes control away. It makes all their negative thoughts manifest without them wanting to cast a spell.

Fear begats monsters, monsters begat fear, but the lack of control is from some kind of outside stimuli. Otherwise they'd normally control their magicks. They might fuck up and create a monster when they wanted to make a guardian against a monster, but it's not like
>"I'm scared"
>Suddenly and uncontrollably their greatest fear manifests in front of them
Until the sound takes control of their creation magick - then the above happens.

Thanks, that's a good description of it. I remember now that negative state remark and having to make up for it.

No it fucking does not. There is no scenario where any of the scions would destroy entire worlds and sacrifice the entire source to bring back their dead friends.

All of it. Sprouts should be gassed.

Broodmother couldn't really go against Lakshmi's wishes but she was appalled and offended that Lakshmi only gave her a shell that looked like her daughter instead of a full revival.

She split Zodiark, and thus the star He was created from, but I think that's more in line with a prism splitting light than her actually creating them
She is a crystal, after all

How’s bahamut? Worth doing? I did crystal towers because i was told it was vital for the stor. Im in heavensward should i bother with bahamut? I dont have a premade so it’d have to be through the PF
I am also a scrub and not a fan of overly hard content

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Too bad there is literally no other way for the Ascians to reach their goal.
You might understand their motives, but saying you side with them means you accept of their methods.

Except the absolute doomsday scenario of Amaurot given where Y'shtola and Alphinaud directly say as much

Yes.

There's only two or three instances of Bahamut that can't be totally soloed but the rest you can run through the party-finder just fine. Almost all of its mechanics are standard in normal content for late Heavensward and beyond.

I think they heard a katana unsheath

>dps fuck up tethers
>healers forget how to play the game and let the tanks get auto attacked to death by adds
>OOPSIE WOOPSIE FORGOT TO ROTATE CLOCKWISE AGAIN
>do every mechanic fine... then hit enrage because nobody knows how to press a sequence of buttons in order when they light up, the same buttons they've been pressing for 80 levels
I'VE BEEN IN PF FOR DAYS
GET ME A DAMN FARM PARTY BEFORE I PISS MESELF

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>horrible keening noise from below the earth
>EEEEYOOOOOOHHHHHH.........

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why does it feel impossible to double weave without clipping on GNB? what am I doing wrong?

Oh, nvm it doesn't affect most of BLM

No they do not. You are completely pulling shit out of your ass. They say they understand from the ascian perspective why they're doing it bit not ONCE did they even suggest they would do the same or that it's the right thing to do

GNB isn't really designed to allow more than a single weave.

Because they lived idyllic, potentially eternal lives in a utopian post scarcity society? The sharded worlds are absolute shitholes even when compared to some of the worst periods of our world's history. In addition to dealing with usual flaws of people, they also have to contend with all manners of supernatural threats. And there is no definite proof that they couldn't bring their civilization back. They have managed to successfully rejoin seven shards already, they at least have a proof of a working concept. Their civilization didn't fall because of their hubris or vanity either, they were undone by an ancient eldritch abomination that made them powerless and helpless.

are you in EU?

>SMN is actually pretty fun despite being a ruinmancer

Color me surprised. Physick and Devotion are fuckin dumb and should just go away though.

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rough divide seems fast enough but i fuck up blasting zone double weaves every single time

not really sure if you can double weave it without clipping

>Jenova births Sephiroth within the earth
>immediately upon being born, Sephiroth unsheathes his Masamune
>the Ancients collectively shit their pants
>untold eons later
>Elidibus gets ready to face EleZenos
>EleZenos unsheathes his katana
>triggers Elidibus' Vietnam flashbacks

Nobody gives a fuck how perfect they think their society was it's been dead for 10,000 years and nobody has the right to sacrifice 14 worlds worth of people to bring it back

Bahamut is important to the overall story and affects the main story of the post-Heavensward quests. You should do it. Preferably the hard way so you stop being a stupid casual.

The Amaurotines don't consider the sapient creatures on the shard to be people

Well, that's just dumb. And it may not be every Amaurotine that would think that anyway, as shown by that debate quest. They were even wondering whether or not to help their neighbors, so they also may not have been as perfect and idyllic as portrayed by the ascian himself.

The specific dialogue, optional in quest lvl 76 Best way out:
>And like one of your primals, He tempered us. It was only natural. There is no resisting such power. And so we Ascians came to exist solely to bring about the rule of darkness. His darkness.

Zenos' remarks about the echo suggest that ultimately the echo and tempering is a contest of wills (and the echo is not a fiat guarantee against tempering. It just strengthens your willpower). The evidence available clearly suggests tempering makes you align with the primal's interests. It just doesn't mean you become a mindless slave. Emet-Selch can both carry out his desires and the desire of Zodiark becuase he will feel Zodiark's desires and his own are mutual. Hence his remark that they exist solely to bring about -his- darkness, but Emet-Selch in that final cinematic in the abyss is raging against the dying of his race and there's no Lahabrea "Praise the true God Allah I mean Zodiark" bullshit, it's just "No I will not let my people die, I will not let it all disappear". That being said, I feel suspicious that a free spark of Emet-Selch persisted in his ambition to master the Crystal Tower's time travel. If he could travel back in time he could stop the OG calamity from happening which means no Zodiark. Maybe it was to travel back and stop the summoning of Hydaelyn instead though.

>MNK not good
The current rotation is probably unintended like NIN in early SB, but they're doing more pDPS than SAM and more rDPS than DRG right now. They're the top melee until Tuesday.

The sharded sentients are lesser beings compared to the originals that were whole. It's an objective fact.
>how perfect they think their society was
We've had proof of how perfect it was, unless you somehow were not paying attention in Amaurot. How long has it been dead is irrelevant and while it might be morally quesitonable, it is no less abhorrent to split them into countless smaller, weaker, imperfect versions for the sake of claiming a moral high ground. Had Hydaelyn not done what she did, there never would have been a need for rejoining and these painstaking labors in the first place.

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This bullshit again. It doesn't matter whether they consider them people or not. I swear to god this is the most infantile, babby's first idea of moral relativism and screw squeenix for even bringing it up. Fuck off.