youtube.com/watch?v=mrS4PJxUrrs >HUD is customizable >'Heavy' enemies have weakspots >Falling off into bottomless pits won't just instantly kill you and send you back to the last checkpoint (so more difficult platforming and secret hiding) >Overall game is more difficult than Doom 2016 >All this discussion on game design
Makes sense since all the demons are a fuckton more difficult now
According to people who played the demo at QC the Dread Knight and Flame Baron are absolute murder to fight against. Complete ai overhaul from the sounds of it.
I'm just wondering how they managed to have more ai on the map at a time, better ai (aka more resource hungry per unit) AND better graphics to boot and keep the game running smooth.
It's a huge benefit when you make your own in-house engine rather than rely on 3rd party shitheaps like Unity, Unreal and Frostbite like seemingly everyone does
Zachary Diaz
>supporting anything Doom with Bethesda's name attached to it in any way They won't learn if you don't teach them.
Jason Phillips
The last doom was published by bethesda and it was great so whats there to learn from? Unless you don't understand what publishing is and think bethesda had any hand in making this other than slapping their name on it for free money and PR, because THAT would be really embarrassing.
Elijah Richardson
So it is guaranteed that pic related is going to show up in every level somewhere, but do you think it is just going to be a regular enemy or something to do with the demonic corruption meter?
I swear 2016 doom had weakpoints on the enemies. Not talking about Pinkies or Spectres either - I am certain it atleast felt like some enemies took more damage when hit in specific spots: revenants from the back of their jetpack and cacodemons in their eye or when you hit them with their mouth open, specifically. Also I'm sure you could also stagger demons by hitting them during certain animations, such as the mancubi and hellknights
Owen Gray
When the fucking devs are garbage at the game, what chance does it actually have to be good? Any teen that grew up on literally any shooter can play ten times better than that. It's fucking cringy.
Nathan Allen
>the dev who is talking about the game while playing didn't play absolutely perfectly in order to sate my autism The only cringe here is oozing out of you
Hudson Martinez
Please user go try and talk about a topic in depth with other people in a way that doesn't sound retarded and play competently at the same time
Adrian Gomez
>game is still slow as fuck Guess I won't play this one too.
This is the only game I'm looking forward to or actually want to play. All the other shit coming out, namely Cyberpunk, feels like a scam. This looks like it was handled by the right people.
I think we all know this is going to be announced as an EGS exclusive 2 days from launch
Asher Kelly
Sorry you have debilitating autism
Zachary King
timestamp for customizable HUD?
Austin Moore
>handled by the right people kek
Levi Ross
Man i've been playing on console for so long I completely ignored the whole epic debacle. Upgraded my PC a few days ago in prep for this and a few other games and only now have I realised I'm gonna get sucked into the shitshow as well now.
Charles Sanders
You don't think they're going to do a good job on it.
You clearly dont know anything about engines. There is nothing at all wrong with engines like UE4. It's in fact one of the best engines out there. However with your own engine you can tailor make it so it perfectly suits your needs. There are a metric fuckton of genres and types of games idtech would suck major dick at. UE4 is an engine that does most things really well. The biggest weakness with it is how behind they are in terms of 2D support (with sprites) compared to Unity. Unity is also a great engine to develop for if you want to make porting easier.
Nathan Nelson
Is it November yet?
Asher Cruz
So how many demons onscreen this time?
Josiah Jackson
do you still get locked into arenas? do enemies still not spawn on level gen? are there still glory kills so the devs don't have to bother with pickup placement?
William Sanchez
>defending unity
yamero, also Frostbite is unquestionably shit
Cooper Richardson
Yes.
Wyatt Foster
This. You know how frustrating it is to play something that isn't at eye level and with a controller.
Owen Bailey
I wonder what the secrets are gonna look
Jeremiah Flores
Headshots in Doom 2016 would deal more damage, it's just that you couldn't weaken their offensive abilities by shooting their weakspot like disabling a Mancubus cannon
Ryan Robinson
Frostbite was built to be used for Battlefield and Battlefield clones, is it actually shit at doing that?
Brayden Gomez
It looks fucking awful. Even worse than nu-Doom.
Nicholas Carter
so is archvile standard enemy or boss
Xavier Parker
More like the left people
Adrian Ramirez
>faggots make assetflips and shit games on Unity therefore it's bad >talking about frostbite even though it isn't even 3rd party and made in-house at DICE You really have no idea about the subject. Not the same user too.
Logan Torres
Yeah yeah yeah but what about the corpress do they still dissapear?
Charles Adams
yes, play Squad instead
Owen Johnson
>is it actually shit at doing that? No, in fact it is only good at doing Battlefield and games like it (EABF).
Dominic Flores
I wanna kill that conceited cyborg
Brody Martinez
I wish you had some powerful abilities which cost health or armor to use to tie into enemies always giving you free shit, like satanic weaponry or a Devil Trigger mode requiring your blood You'd gain more power at the risk of being closer to death, but being closer to death gives you more health when killing enemies, so you'd get a feedback loop
Brayden Brown
>they won't learn if you stop buying occasional good games they publish I'm getting really annoyed with Bethesda's shittery over recent years but they aren't on EA's level YET.
DOOM 5 seems like what a modern FPS should be. I don't give a fuck, I'll buy it. If you faggots actually want to get something done about Bethesda being shit then go protest in front of their offices.
Sebastian Myers
Fuck it's even worse than 2016
Justin Reed
>we will only sell cosmetics >we sell gameplay items now >aren't on EA's level YET Yes they are.
Matthew Murphy
Will I be ok with a 970?
Adrian James
>All this discussion on game design At least the shills are learning what to spam now
Landon Powell
>seems like what a modern FPS should be >slower than COD and BF >showering you with ammo and health while modern shooters are slowly turning away from that Nah.
Parker Gomez
>shills >With that filename
Dylan James
Not being able to fail platforming is not a positive. Neither are weakspots.
Dylan Brown
A weak spot example was shooting a grenade into a caco's mouth and the new slayer Hunter has destructible body parts. They aren't really just weak spots.
Justin Ward
>472092758 >>slower than COD and BF You're not even getting my (you) you fucking fisher. your bait is stale and bitter
Not even baiting but hey, keep eating shit. DOOM 2016 was slower than other modern shooters, and absolutely pathetic compared to the OG games speed. From the looks of it Eternal will be the same sluggish trash.
Grayson Flores
Holy shit I love Doom. I hope and pray that at some point the demons start actively fleeing from the Doom Slayer.
Dylan Nguyen
The other guy wouldn't, but here's your (you) user. Cherish it, I hope it will keep your family well fed
>le lore >not just lore but shitty awful lore ruined franchise
Josiah Myers
If you had any hopes for F76 of TES Shovelware I'm sorry for you. The reason I tolerate Bethesda for now is that they keep scammy shit more or less separate from decent games. Just taking a quick look at announcement trailer is usually enough to tell if it's going to be a shitshow. I haven't bought a single shitty Bethesda game so far. I'll stop buying their shit when they get good at scamming people and giving them money would be actually risky. Or if they'll force me to install Bethesda Launcher.
>ignore the good >muh glory kills >locked in until you kill everyone in the room >shit story forced on you >weapons that feel and sound like shit >platforms No thanks.
Robert Cox
>showering you with ammo and health while modern shooters are slowly turning away from that
Yeah, by making you pay for more ammo with micro transactions
William Jenkins
>all those exploding bodies >all those sounds >customizable hud >flamethrower I love this game already.
Thomas James
>by making you pay for more ammo with micro transactions This isn't WarThunder.
Jonathan Butler
She's from an hentai webm revolving around verbal humilation
Aiden Barnes
>Oh no some very subtle lore that can be shrugged off and avoided. now the whole series is ruined. You're like a 7 year old bitching that peas just touched his mashed potatoes.
Glory kills are ok. Locked arenas are fun. Story is forced only under 10 minutes of cutscenes in total. Weapons look and feel great. Platforms what you fucking retard?
>glory kills Looks awesome but you can totally just dont do them, its just additional healt >locked in room with enemies That is a good point but well, what you do. >shit story Game is not out >sounds You have ear damage, all sounds are amazing.
Carter Ross
Not at all, I'm curious to see the fate of mankind after all this.
Dylan Rivera
>>HUD is customizable >>'Heavy' enemies have weakspots >>Falling off into bottomless pits won't just instantly kill you and send you back to the last checkpoint (so more difficult platforming and secret hiding) >>Overall game is more difficult than Doom 2016 >>All this discussion on game design >I'll take it
can they make the combat any slower and or more boring looking? I want to run around and rip and tear and it looks like the enemies got dumber.
Nicholas Wilson
come on man do you know how cringy it is when you type shit like this.
Zachary Torres
Never played a DOOM game before but this looks really cool and I've been itching to play the 2016 game, which I should do soon. I might pick up the remasters of the originals as well.
This may be an odd question but for someone who's new to the series, would it be alright and not spoilery to listen to some of the 2016 game's soundtrack? What's the main theme? Rip and Tear right?
Charles Wilson
>Glory kills are ok No because they lead to the devs not caring about creating and balancing a level properly. >Locked arenas are fun No they are not. >Story is forced only under 10 minutes of cutscenes in total That's not counting the areas where you're "free", and by free I mean you have to bear the awful plot while walking around a locked room as if it was HL2. >Weapons look and feel great No they don't, they look generic and feel like shit. >Platforms what you fucking retard Thanks for confirming that you didn't play the game.
Parker Mitchell
They arent remasters. They're dogshit. Just get the wads and use gzdoom
Jonathan Foster
I'd bet money you are pushing 300+ pounds
Ryan Barnes
>his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him.
metroid prime has faster more entertaining combat than these new "doom's"
Jonathan Gray
Are you the guy I replied to.
Kayden Walker
DoomSlayer and Doomguy are two different people. Earth and UAC were destroyed in Doom 1, 2 and 64. People in DOOM 2016 don't even know demons exists, apart from those in the upper echelons of the UAC.
sounds like somebody beat-boxing into a didgeridoo while another person does dishes in the backround. I still like the other music though.
Adam White
These threads seem to garner aggressive shills or zoomer redditors that unironically think le riipntear is so badass!
Jeremiah Cox
Is Eternal the new game the resident Yea Forums autist has set his sights on to endlessly shit on to try and sway board opinion?
Cooper Watson
>POWER FANTASY >POWER FANTASY >POWER FANTASY
Anthony Scott
Hell Walker is the main menu theme in 2016.
Bentley Gutierrez
2016’s UAC takes place in another universe.
Adam Jackson
Stay mad Zoom of Duty babby.
Brandon Nguyen
Doom Eternal. Eternal. The events are transpiring across many timelines. The goal is to stop it all
Leo Gomez
Dude DoomSlayer is so fucking cool. He's so badass. Can you imagine him fucking your girlfriend? Dude imagine if DoomSlayer was fucking your girlfriend. That would be badass. He would rip and tear her pussy walls.
Seems so. Yea Forums loved 2016 now it's more popular and therefore it must be bad.
James Jenkins
>tfw I got to play the PC version at that Quakecon britbong event
Its pretty much a slightly better Doom 2016 with more satisfying weapons and enemy variety, if you hated the last game you probably won't like this but if you enjoyed it then you'll love it Eternal even more also the new Wolfenstein game sucks, don't listen to shills
WTF are you talking about? These threads are what said and have been since E3. I give props to the shills learning from the last thread to actually talk about gameplay instead the cringe inducing lore/story
Cooper Diaz
I dont have to imagine, the devs are braindead this dogshit console fps game is shit
get off my website and die
Owen Gomez
What a coincidence that the Doomguy left his initial dimension, went into Hell, and then was brought back into another dimension that's completely identical to his initial dimension yet the demons haven't invaded yet. Almost as if it was a reboot with no connection to the previous games' events.
So whats the deal with heaven? Is Doom Slayer going to extend his wrath to the angels? what role are they going to play?
John Scott
>a Mary-Sue >People are actually bitching about Doomguy not having some deep backstory with flaws in his fucking character
Eli Morris
Based retard.
Nolan Mitchell
>le todd le buy my game xdd
Are you okay user? Why are you projecting that I like trash that Bethesda Game Studios puts out?
Charles Nguyen
No one knows.
Kevin Flores
We know for a fact that hell is a dimension that absorbs other dimensions (Argent D'nur) and we know they consider Doom 3's UAC as a dimension hell failed to absorb (Soul Cube in Olivia's office), so is it really that much of a stretch to say that in different dimensions different UACs have portals to hell but for different reasons (OG: Portal technology, 3: Summoning demons into their dimension, 2016: To use argent energy)?
Ethan Lopez
>Haha edgy unrelatable characters with no flaws made by 14 year olds are le based xD
Michael Davis
He died at the end of Knee Deep in the Dead though.
Juan Gonzalez
>managing your health in combat by participating in combat instead of running back for a huge medkit you decided to leave there because you were at almost max HP is bad >arenas are worse than peeking around corners like a faggot >breaking the pace with exploration segments and shoving story into those segments to avoid disrupting the game later with cutscenes is bad >3x3 barreled chaingun is generic and feels like shit >platforms uh umm uhhhh YOU DIDN'T PLAY LMAO
Either you are a definite shill or you watched those shitty Doom 2016 YouTuber videos.
Jacob Lewis
>Soul Cube appears in one location as an easter egg >Concrete irrefutable proof that DOOM 3 is canon within DOOM 2016's universe.
Yes I think it is a bit of a stretch to assume that, considering they would need to explain it within the game's narrative and it would be a complete clusterfuck.
>Game needs orphan flashbacks from doomguys traumatic childhood
Caleb Allen
Those guys are faggots that think the story of the betrayer is Doomguy's story.
The explanation is that it is a different universe. Are you going to complain about all the other fictional materials that use alternate universe that are similar but different to the original universes?
>soundtrack >spoilery Standalone OST is basically its own thing with tracks arranged from pieces playing in the game in different situations. It's definitely worth listening to.
>trash is good because I say so please don't explain to me why I'm wrong Thanks for wasting my time faggot.
Hunter Scott
>all characters needs flaws and be vulnurable to some gay shit
Sebastian Jenkins
>platforming bad Am I the only person that likes first person platforming? I always enjoyed stuff like quakelive race, tf2 jump maps, and even csgo surf for a little while. I don't see whats wrong with mixing it into fps level design.
Cooper Peterson
I can’t believe it’s so hard for you to understand.
It's a soft reboot. DoomSlayer and Doomguy are two different people. I don't care about "all the other fictional materials that use alternate universe that are similar but different to the original universes" because they're not DOOM. We are discussing DOOM.
Physical copies will have a Bethesda code if anyone is planning to get that btw. I was gonna use gcu but ill go steam You HAVE to play turok 1
Angel Edwards
>It's definitely worth listening to. Maybe if you're a 12 year old emo white kid. Metal is for losers who get bullied in school.
Angel Myers
What’s traumatic about being the son of Commander Keen?
Anthony Howard
I'm still not entirely convinced that D44M's universe is TNO universe.
Why have you been popping up in Doom discussion arguing this point throughout entire threads?
Joseph Green
>Can you imagine him fucking your girlfriend? No because he's canonically virgin, furry and I don't have a girlfriend.
Leo Miller
God, you’re dense.
Jordan Powell
the soundtrack titles are phrases from the story but also vague enough that you wont know UNLESS you specifically look up where each track plays in the game
Bentley Diaz
>Doom thread >Talking shit about metal You may not like Djent but come the fuck on, Doom's soundtrack for the most part is totally not plagiarized metal tracks.
He's just a random marine who assaulted his superior, was forced to join the UAC and fought against demons from hell, somehow survived, found out his son(?) and rabbit suffered terrible fates. Doom 64 states he decides to stay in hell and keep the demons occupied for eternity. Soon he goes from just a marine survivor to a fierce warrior.
I wouldn't call him a Gary-Stu, if anything he's more punished than any video game protagonist ever.
Alright now everyone's arguing over a false, dare I say "strawman", argument about Doomslayer having or not having an edgy background. isn't saying Doomslayer needs a gritty backstory, he's just saying you sound fucking faggy when you say shit like .
The Ubergewehr from TNC is more than likely powered by Argent Energy, and it’s also said to draw energy from micro-portals of extra-dimensional origin.
Oliver Williams
Doom has always been trash, from it's Mary-Sue MC to it's out-of-touch music.
Lucas Barnes
Leak user here. Doom Eternal will have stealth segments. You play as Daisy trying to find Slayer and you can cause environmental kills and help other real player slayers if online.
Parker Clark
THEY BETTER NOT CHEAPEN THE REZZED TITAN FIGHT, I SWEAR TO FUCKING JESUS CHRIST, INTO SOME QTE SHIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT
So the mancubus has weak spots on his arms where you can shoot off his guns. Is he still able to attack at all or does he just waddle around harmlessly?
Matthew Hernandez
I unironically love the entire premise of Humans keeping ACTUAL HELL at bay with super technology. They also happen to have THE SLAYER on their side so that's good too.
Doomguy and Doom Slayer are the same fucking person. How many times does this have to be said? For fuck sake Hugo even called Doom Slayer "Doomguy" on stream. WHAT WILL IT TAKE YOU FAGS TO ACCEPT THIS?
So is the MC called Doomguy or Doom Slayer? The guy playing the game in the video keeps switching between the two.
Eli Hill
Washing a rabbit can kill them. He's spoiled. sometimes his pads get dirty cause he goes on our elevated deck or uses his potty
Luke Jenkins
Judging by the boss fights in 2016 it is going to be shoot it until it dies. Maybe leveraging environmental stuff to cause damage.
Ian Kelly
He's called faggot
Levi Mitchell
Official in-game exposition and/or lore
Thomas Cruz
I can't remember if it's 100% canon that doomguy is doomslayer, but the creators have said a few times that DOOM 2016 is a journey of how doomguy becomes doomslayer
Benjamin Gomez
They’re different people. Hugo Martin is just a mouth breathing retard.
David Jones
>people asking for timestamp on HUD customization >nobody responds I'm calling bullshit
Leo James
You're wrong, man. They're two different people. No amount of anger will change this.
Nathaniel Long
>Neither are weakspots How is being able to disable an enemy's gun not a positive?
Kevin Moore
I think it'd be an incredibly wasted opportunity to not connect the TNO with D44M. Same bloodline after all.
>Creative director of D44M and eternal >Doom 64 fan boy >lol no he's wrong Retard.
Alexander Evans
He's the director of the fucking game.
Easton Ramirez
Doomguy is the "unofficial" name, Doom Slayer is the official in-game one. I'm guessing the reason is simply because it'd sound silly to hear a demon or Hayden say "doomguy".
Nathan Ortiz
Original doom didn't need that. Hell most fps didn't need that and I can count on one hand games that actually did that (Daikatana for instance and you can guess how well that was executed).
So he is the horse's mouth when it comes to the creative side of D44M and Eternal, like whether it is the same dood.
Jason Butler
some animals are literally that weak
Ian Gray
Doesn't need and being a negative is not the same brainlet.
Austin King
At least quote me faggot Rabbits can go into shock when you immerse them in water. Rabbits do a very good job of keeping themselves clean and only need help when they are very sick.
Leo Flores
You mean he has autism?
Grayson Phillips
>No because they lead to the devs not caring about creating and balancing a level properly. They lead to the player actually engaging in a fight, instead breaking momentum to run away and find health. Also who the fuck are you to comment on what makes for good level design? >No they don't, they look generic and feel like shit. Imagine having this bad of an opinion.
James Young
Yes. And also Doom, Doom 2 and Doom 3. All have same Doomguy except Doom 3.
Uh, yes. It does. He's the director of the game. So if he confirms that Doom Slayer is fucking Doomguy, then Doom Slayer is fucking Doomguy.
Elijah Cruz
>They see Doomguy as a mix between John McClane from Die Hard, Michael Myers, and the Terminator >We can see Doomguy's face through the visor now >It's difficult for them to go back to DOOM 2016 after playing Eternal >Eternal is a response to the criticism of DOOM 2016's repetitiveness >A response to the criticism of Eternal's HUD they state that the HUD will be very customizable >How Eternal has bigger focus on exploration, lore, and resource management >Falling off the map will no longer result in having to load back to a checkpoint instead you'll quickly respawn at the end of edge of where you fell this change was made so that they could be more creative with the locations of secrets and so on >How they feel that the game is more of "thinking man's shooter" >Overall the game is more difficult than its predecessor >Game features 1-Ups that respawn you upon death
>>Falling off the map will no longer result in having to load back to a checkpoint >instead you'll quickly respawn at the end of edge of where you fell They should've made DoomBoi just use his shogun grapple to get back.
Xavier Barnes
>>They see Doomguy as a mix between John McClane from Die Hard, Michael Myers, and the Terminator that's neat, at least it isn't explicitly capeshit inspired >>We can see Doomguy's face through the visor now some won't like the removal of anonymity, but the old games had the mugshot >>It's difficult for them to go back to DOOM 2016 after playing Eternal it was difficult for me to go back after like the third time anyway >>Eternal is a response to the criticism of DOOM 2016's repetitiveness so they counteract this with water levels, an optional hub, Super Mario platforming, and whatever else >customizable HUD this was in 2016, would be dumb if they removed it, hopefully we can switch back to last year's HUD >>How Eternal has bigger focus on exploration, lore, and resource management exploration is good, lore is ehh, resource management is nice >>Falling off the map will no longer result in having to load back to a checkpoint still on the fence for this >>How they feel that the game is more of "thinking man's shooter" didn't Half-Life 1 have this as it's tag? >>Overall the game is more difficult than its predecessor >>Game features 1-Ups that respawn you upon death this added difficulty+lives seems like they're going to cheap out on level design in favor of bullshit that you have to cheese with full health 1ups, hopefully not
>they state that the HUD will be very customizable This better mean that they have different option for the HUD and not just "more or less light around each icon"
James Diaz
Old doom couldn't do that, instead we had flinching animations and pain chances.
It's honestly kind of absurd how much they did away with the old HUD. It's terrible now. All I want is for there to be two options, one to go back to the old HUD, and another to go back to the original Doom HUD, face included and everything.
>2016 is it's own thing How ? Doom Slayer was found in a sarcophagus in hell. That's literally the end of Doom 64
Adam Hernandez
user, I don't know what to tell you. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp.
Jace Sanchez
>I'm still not entirely convinced that D44M's universe is TNO universe. It's been confirmed even further in Youngblood. BJ used a "god-key" to enter alternate dimensions and somehow used it to get to Hitler, who had a dead-man's switch to set off the apocalypse in the event of his death- most likely leading to the events of Doom. Also speaking of the "alternate dimensions", Eternal already seems to be making a big deal out of those.
It looks like shit. I'd think that's pretty self-explanatory. It looks like a mobile game tier HUD. It looks like someone stole Doom assets and put it on the AppStore under the name Moom. It's more difficult to read, it distracts from what should be the focus of the game, it fucks with the sci-fi hellish art style, it's ugly as sin.
Been playing doom3 on xbox and loving it, its pretty fast when you sprint im enjoying the score alot
Liam Ramirez
>Behind in 2d sprites Department >What is AMID EVIL?
Jeremiah Cooper
>t's a pretty simple concept to grasp. as in it's a sequel ? or not ?
Joseph Butler
It's called a soft reboot you nitwits. Do you retards not know what a soft reboot is.
Elijah Roberts
Its perfect.
Hunter Lewis
Its an interesting premise with a unique protagonist with good gameplay.
Evan Jenkins
From a Friend of mine who was there >Expect Thrice the Metroid Prime Levels of DICKERY platforming, id seems to have played all of the trilogy to pull this shit, and yes Exploration is rewarding as fuck.
Jackson Nelson
Maybe is: maekawa miku search on sankakucomplex fuck that panda
Nathaniel Butler
>Do you retards not know what a soft reboot is. not really. Doom 64 ends with Doomguy trapped in hell. Doom 2016 starts with Doom Slayer broken out of hell.
Eli Robinson
Multiplayer =/= campaign. Post a webm of bfv campaign. Just pirated that shit and its basically stand behind a box and spray. Online is where shit hits the fan in every game. Stop comparing your glorified cow to other games.
Gavin Garcia
i dont remember but i know that he says this around the time when he gets slayer key in space
Oliver Robinson
Violence, Speed, Momentum The three laws of physics.
>>Overall game is more difficult than Doom 2016 I dropped 2016 after struggling on a mission, seems I need to pick it back up again and git gud.
David Powell
>regular icons, bars and numbers are bad because they remind me of mobile games for whatever the fuck reason >mobile games' HUDs are bad because they are in mobile games btw and mobile games are bad
They did mention Friday that they replayed the old doom games to make sure they knew the source material for 2016 ...then right after it they mentioned they are currently playing through quake 2. Retarded theory time: Wolfenstein had 2 games, doom is getting it's second game. What if we're going to get 2 quake reboot games, and then a huge crossover game involving doomslayer/bj/quake guy (does he have a name?)
>chemical propellants in the future Tard This is the perfect mix with perfect gun for every occasion. Plasma for shields bullets for regular enemies and whatever the fuck.
Since 2009 is CANON to this continuity What if BJ inadvertently Altered the Course of time and space by making the forces of Hell stronger with the Amulet? And the Harbringer of DOOM managed to Rewrite History by making BJ NEVER Find the Spear of Destiny, and Defeat Hitler in 1945 by Triggering the Device in his chest?
The Forces of Hell would had manipulated in Secret the Events by using this "Anomaly" in time to guarantee that the classic Universe was removed from the timesteam, thus making easier to manipulate this new Earth where Doom2016 and TNO+ happens.
BJ used the God Key to see the original timeline and the fuckup that he did in altering it with the Thule Amulet.
>this nigga is actually playing on a fucking pad with a tiny ass monitor on the ground while commenting on everything and still plays relatively well how
Aiden Murphy
What good mods are their for doom 3? I've heard that there is a custom engine for it, do mods work with that? I would probably need to use it since I'm a linuxfag
>PS4 Why the fuck would you play old Doom games on console? Any potato can run them easily.
Chase Evans
This, or at least see why he is being dismantled.
Levi Reed
What do you mean?
Asher Carter
The Mission packs are still canon, Ranger Destroyed the Dimensional Machine after he Killed the "Dragon at the End of Time", but it doesn't say that he Ever returned to Earth, only that He was teleported to the Arena, QC comic states that He failed to Defeat Shubby at the end and she threw him into the arena.
as for Quake 2, it never states what happened to Bitterman, in Q3 we learned that the Strogg experimented on him as a Punishment for killing the Makron. Joker and Stepchild Escaped before all of Stroggos Asteroid belt fell into the planet's atmosphere and the 2nd wave came to invade.
Jayden Jenkins
I’m really going to need to upgrade my system before I get Eternal. I can barely play 2016 above medium settings.
Oliver Thomas
Not him, but the HUD looks like it belongs to some arcade game, it looks way out of place, no consistent color scheme.
Dylan Rivera
Why not
Nathan Cook
You're trolling, right?
Julian Gomez
Absolution HD, though someone may had done Ai upscaled textures better than Wulfen's ones, this one comes with the SSG Included. Also There's Phobos, which the 1st episode is out.
Austin Cook
Perhaps but the game has no real correlation with the rest of the series. If anything it likely took place around the time Doomguy was sealed in a sarcophagus.
Connor Gray
My only pet peeve is the devs themselves playing with a controller. Why? The game plays and feels infinitely better on mouse and keyboard.
Wyatt Evans
>retconned It was a soft reboot to begin with. If anything Doom 4 goes out of its way to work Doom 3 into the general id mythos instead of it being this one-off outlier with the multiple dimensions thing.
In fact I'd say the multiple dimensions thing literally only exists because they don't want to ignore that Doom 3 exists.
Jason Thompson
kbm gameplay is harder to watch. also having a lapboard on stage would look goofy as shit.
Xavier Clark
Did they not do a kbm section? They did one when they announced it.
Lucas Perry
Because Hugo is playing on stage.
Jaxon Hill
>KBM gameplay is harder to watch How? Just seeing how sluggish the game becomes on a controller is painful. Do audiences nowadays really struggle to keep up even just watching regular PC gameplay footage?
Henry Turner
Where does M00t belong in the doom time line ?
Ryder Clark
I'm not sure if i like the fact that nazi science and jew-magic is the reason that the UAC is able to power the population of earth by tapping into the Hebrew afterlife.
Also, an earth that has the likes of Grace and Abby walker deserves to be fucked over by demons.
Jayden Ward
Its hard to do on stage shit with a keyboard as] steve jobs demonstrated decades ago.
Oliver Torres
that doesnt make it good you fucking retard
Robert Hughes
I fucking love the battle damage so much. I’ve always loved being able to do shit like disarming baddies, and being able to do it in such a visceral way is definitely in keeping with the series.
Daniel Collins
im not autistic like you user, i can read numbers
Austin White
The entirety of nu-doom is a concession to dumb trogdolytes that up until recently don't play real fps.
Charles Clark
I have some issues with the direction of the lore/cutscenes, but I must admit the gameplay looks fucking awesome. So much more depth than 2016 with the shoulder flamethrower, increased bestiary, weak points, dashing, etc.
Has it been confirmed that there will be more than 12 demons alive at once? Doesnt seem likely.
Jason Ortiz
>THEY ARE NO LONGER YOUR PEOPLE TO SAVE
Andrew Watson
Doom is arcade game. >no consistent color scheme Everything is color-coded according to corresponding pickups. And it doesn't blend into environment. The only problem is that is still has some clutter with all those lines and borders and shitty blocky healtbar instead of one smooth bar.
Mason Brooks
The PS4 and XBOne still have garbage tier hardware that is only meant to render pointless effects for 'muh graphix', so yeah, I think it'll still be just 12 at once.
Jeremiah Parker
>Falling off into bottomless pits won't just instantly kill you and send you back to the last checkpoint I thought this only occurs when you have an extra life collected, otherwise you just go back to a checkpoint like normal.
Owen Cruz
The voice directing in NuDoom is fucking orgasmic holy shit.
Lincoln Garcia
Not to sound like a fanboy/apologist, but they really dont need more than 12 at once, cause each one is so fast and deadly on their own. The gameplay in 2016 wasnt perfect, but adding more demons wouldnt make it so.
John Rodriguez
>Hugo Martin likes Dead Space Based. 1 and 2 were fantastic games.
James Collins
Plug your TV into PC. Plug your PS4 controller into PC. Add emulator to Steam. Make a Steam Input config so that your gyro isn't just a dead weight. Slap SNOY sticker on your PC. Enjoy the game.
That line gave me chills when he first said it I wonder if Eternal will be the last of the soft reboot considering they're taking it to heaven itself and it has a very climatic feel to it.
David Evans
Bethesda already said that they are going to be releasing all their games back on Steam, even Fallout 76.
Kayden Rivera
>customizable HUD i will now buy your game
Eli Nguyen
Ooooo who’s the hueg guy with the double glowy swords?
Jackson Sanchez
>DoomSlayer and Doomguy are two different people The dev in OP's vid literally refers to Eternal's protoagonist as Doomguy.
Alexander Morgan
There's Soul Cube easter egg in NuuM so Doom 3 might be prequel to Doom 4 taking place in the same universe while DoomSlayer is from Doom1/2/64 universe. Flashlight Lad probably just retired after events of Doom 3 and never witnessed the shitstorm caused by Hayden and his friends.
I've been playing doom 3 for the first time on switch and I'm loving it. It's rekindled my hype for Eternal, probably going to replay 2016 as well. Any decent mods for 2016?
Lucas Watson
2016 acknowledges that 3 happened in a dimension that hell failed (twice) to absorb into itself.
they replaced mod tools with snap maps for consoles which is now also getting removed for enteral
Isaac Johnson
His favorite and first Doom game was Doom 64. He also got the idea for Doom having indirect storytelling from the movie Micheal Clayton. A lot of movies Hugo enjoyed had influence on Doom 2016. youtube.com/watch?v=piJT6hvZXBQ youtube.com/watch?v=LVLecokaRv4&t
Except a hunter's dream/nexus/firelink shrine style hub is confirmed to exist so I don't see how that falls in line with the more open-ended design with shit like Slayer keys, special gates, and secret tokens
>His favorite and first Doom game was Doom 64. The entirety of Doom 4 taking its lore and character from 64 is a fair indicator of that. Better than BFG Edition not even including 64.
Tyler Walker
This is very wrong.
Aiden Perry
The chart comes from the games and developers. Lets see your alternative.
Adrian Moore
>Doomguy (RPG) Man is there even an easy way to play those anymore. I suppose a nokia emulator or something. What a pain in the ass.
Charles Young
wish kojima was like this instead of being a total fucking retard
Adam James
I don't even know if it was a good game. Why did they even want to make it an rpg or make it mobile?
Joshua Cook
Well, first off, BJ from Wolf3D and BJ from TNO aren’t the same person.
Connor Harris
well first off. take it up with the dev not us, its official
Levi Hernandez
How did any of that contradict what he said?
Cooper Jackson
YOU ARE BUT ONE MAN
Andrew Anderson
What makes you think that?
Christopher Bell
Are you that fanfic guy that just hates everything the developers say because it disagrees with your fanfictions?
Austin Nguyen
William Joseph Blazkowicz must have been a really common name.
Tyler Watson
It's the same person but in an alternate dimension as confirmed in Youngblood
Jayden Jones
different universe
Adam Butler
There's plenty of examples of developers using movies as inspiration instead of taking "endless dialogue and poor exposition" cues from them. Funnily enough, Doom 1 is an example of a game that almost got Kojimbo'd, since everything Tom Hall wrote for "story focus" in that Doom Bible was fucking retarded. You can just read the Doom Bible online, he reused most of it for ROTT anyway.
I don't know, id's relationship with mobiles is weird. There was a doom rpg 2 and a doom 3 port for ios, but they weren't updated to work with never versions of ios so they just sat there, worthless.
Bethesda recently released Doom 1 and 2 for ios. By which I mean they deleted id entirely from the store, delisting the existing Doom 1 and 2 ports, removing the rpgs, the wolfenstein port/rpg and the Doom 3 port entirely, and adding mandatory logins.
Weird relationship with mobile. You know there was a DMC4 ios port?
So you complained about the chart without reading anything on it.
Christopher Morgan
>delisting the existing Doom 1 and 2 ports This is false. The new doom 1/2 ports are just updates for the old ones on mobile.
Nathaniel Baker
im not who youre replying to
Juan Watson
You don't get any penalty from failing the jump and falling so getting the bonus stuff from platforming is going to be a complete joke, i mean this seems like something the new Lives system could've perfect for but nope, you don't lose any lives when you fall to your death which makes zero sense
Colton Cox
Carmack suddenly got a boner for mobile gaming and proclaimed it to be the future. He was right just way to early. Then he got bored of it.
Jonathan Brown
I wish I knew what went on in their board meetings. Who thought it would be a popular thing to do? Do they not actually play any games themselves?
Kevin Nelson
Carmack getting bored of tech and jumping ship? Say it ain't so. Megatextures are the future, any day now.
Lincoln Perry
>start playing nudoom >launch a new game of doom 3 in parallel >swap between doom and doom 3
What am I doing I enjoy doom 3 a lot The graphics are still impressive
Dylan Morris
>not shown
>hub >side missions >"open world" >leveling system >MTX You know all those things are gonna be there.
Wyatt Robinson
Having a protaganist who doesn't give even a slight fuck about what's going on is a neat idea.
Jacob Gonzalez
>Doom >about platforming Pass.
Jackson Jenkins
Because Bethesda never lies :^)
Grayson Gomez
>>hub Already confirmed in the game and confirmed as optional >>side missions >>"open world" The game's linear m8 >>leveling system There was already something like that in Doom 2016 >>MTX Of what? There's no standard multiplayer in the game or even co-op
Carson Cox
so what's the microtransaction currency gonna be called?
My money's on "slayer tokens"
Noah Robinson
Wait no more mods for nudoom?
Owen Perry
>no modding more like Doom Ten Hours
Ryder Jenkins
NuuM's platforming was total bullshit with invisible walls sometimes existing and sometimes not, sometimes preventing you from dying, sometimes preventing you from grabbing the ledge. Making punishing platforming in FPS is bullshit. Teleporting chasms are better than both "hardcore" platforming (like Forges in Amid Evil) and NuuM 2016 platforming. Especially when you have only checkpoints with no proper manual saves. When you fall to death trying to find a secret it's usually not because you failed platforming but because you jumped somewhere expecting to find a secret (like elevator shaft with Gauss in Nuum) but there's nothing there. Autists who actually care about secrets just jump from every cliff and reload (even if from checkpoint from 5 minutes before) and free respawn after fall removes the extra routine. Those who don't care about secrets and aren't retarded are safe from falling to death anyway.
Logan Hughes
>Already confirmed in the game and confirmed as optional means you don't have to explore it, but you'll be forced to return there after every mission
>The game's linear m8 It's going to follow new colossus/youngblood model - you will have to replay same levels to finish side missions.
>There was already something like that in Doom 2016 I'm talking about real deal, not Doom 2016-like upgrade system, again refer to youngblood or rage2
>Of what? There's no standard multiplayer in the game or even co-op there is their meme player vs demon mode and rage 2 didn't have any MP yet it was full of MTX bullshit.
Leo Long
imagine thinking metal in doom is bad
Angel Johnson
>means you don't have to explore it, but you'll be forced to return there after every mission Yeah, like in that shitty brown old game with HUHing dude.
Landon Mitchell
do you think your fucking funny
Josiah Phillips
>and rage 2 didn't have any MP yet it was full of MTX bullshit.
Rage 2 was an open-world game which allows a hell of a lot more potential for microtransactions
Jayden Carter
>we dont want the double barreled shotgun blast to be the solution to everything god im fucking cumming
Guys, just run game and try it. It's been downloadable for a billion years by now.
Liam Brooks
Where's RtCW and Wolfenstein 2009?
Sebastian Hall
it's Id Software not the cuck studio form Sweden
Cooper Butler
archive.org/details/DoomManualPC/page/n3 Here you go, bud, the original full-colour instruction manual for Doom. Contains the backstory, the HUD elements, and instructions on whether to use a joystick or mouse. See "controlling the action".
>yeah but you couldn't look up and down right? So? No, don't even bother replying, whatever pedantic definition you've got in your head is stupid.
Kevin Kelly
>yeah but you couldn't look up and down right? So?
Eli Morris
It was never intended for you to be able to do that, despite future source ports adding that in
Hudson Wood
without moving up and down you cant add weakpoints in a way thats not shit
Owen Carter
Doom 2016 has a tiny amount of mods, but they're there. A couple of simple ones can be found here: old.reddit.com/r/DOOM2016Mods/ There's also this one: moddb.com/mods/weapons-mod-for-doom-2016 It disables enemy item drops, makes glory kills much rarer, gives you a siphon grenade at the start of the game to counter the increased difficulty from the lack of glory kills, and improves weapons in various ways. It's cool, my only problem with it is that it doubles the chaingun damage. The chaingun needed a damage boost, but doubling it makes it really OP. Also, only start new save files with mods installed. When I loaded an old save with mods, then disabled the mod, the file was corrupted.
Levi Perry
>Hebrew afterlife Aren't Heaven and Hell from Christianity, not Judaism?
Asher Hughes
>r*ddit
Juan Hernandez
You take what you can get, it's literally the only site I've found singleplayer mods on besides the one single mod from moddb.com.
Jacob Martinez
They honestly had me at Souls's like Invasions. Yea Forums will tell me it is shit on release then 3 years later everyone will praise it like MGSV
Jaxon Morris
lol
Juan Young
It came from the Maccabees around 167 BC.
Cooper Hernandez
>No don't add anything just make the same game with slightly better graphics
Jace Murphy
Not retconned, just not acknowledged openly as it was just a minor branch timeline that hell failed to absorb.
God, may as well be. Him and his creepy-ass face. Like one of those pictures where they overlay 2000 people to get the average, except the sample was solely registered sex offenders.
Colton Brown
But one betrayed the other so only one would be fond of the rabbit.
John Baker
How?
Julian Sullivan
Is ROE worth playing? I played through Doom 3 and it was okay. I'm not really feeling a desire to play more, but it looks like ROE is more interesting than the base game.
Matthew Garcia
She didn't mean to steal his girlfriend, it was an accident.
Caleb Rogers
Combat Engineer never made it out of Hell after the boss fight. He died inside of Hell. He also was absorbing the fuck out of the Hear of Hell he was carrying. The Heart probably used that entire scenario of a second invasion into the Doom 3 universe to select its own champion to kill Doomguy.
Jeremiah Hernandez
It's a so-so game. It plays just like D3 but less jumpscares and more run and gun with your own Berserker power up you have to charge up.
Josiah Barnes
He does his own Super Shotgun too...
Thomas Morris
It's fine until they start just spawning 8 revenants in a tiny room and expect you to just spam their "i win" button of an artifact through half the later encounters. You charge your artifact through regular dead bodies and there's at least one for every encounter, and the artifact ends any non-boss encounter. It's cheap.
At least it actually ends in Hell, unlike the base game that has you go there and then just gets bored and spits you back out. And actually has a Super Shotgun, unlike the base game. But if you don't want "more Doom 3", then nah.
David Ward
I'll play with you bro Do you live in Texas?
Isaac Evans
You take damage for missed jumps.
Jeremiah Myers
who's up for round 2 of super shotgun + rocket launcher
Jordan Sanders
You're gonna get fucked if you try that.
Eli Torres
doom 5 is so perfect for Yea Forums that the only thing Yea Forums can bitch about it is >NEW GAME BAD
My only real complaint is that armor still functions as a second health bar. There's also no true multiplayer mode, just the asymmetrical ASSFAGGOTS garbage.
Luke Gomez
Fuck yeah
Eli Morgan
Have sex and dilate
Landon Thompson
>There's also no true multiplayer mode
That's a positive
Lincoln Rogers
Yes but the ending of Doom 2016 got me excited. Really want to know more about Samuel as he was just a cool character in general and see more about the crucible because all we got was the teaser at the end with him turning it into a big sword.
Jace Thompson
It's not. They outsourced 4's multiplayer to people who didn't know what they were doing, then just threw the baby out with the bathwater when it came time to develop a new multiplayer game in-house.
Nicholas Murphy
>game is perfect >people bitch about it It's not perfect, it's trash.
Eli Russell
So everything in existence is trash?
Austin Davis
Do you trust modern id to be able to do multiple things at once without fucking it up?
Grayson Anderson
Sucks there's no true multiplayer mode, but people modded Doom 4 multiplayer into Zandronum so hopefully they can make a multiplayer mod using Doom Eternal weapons and shit.
Xavier Martin
i prefer qc:de
maybe it's because i haven't played D44M but the weapons don't really read what they do all too well, they seem kind of random a hodgepodge that said, i've Always been a quakefag at heart but really like doom movement so it's a match made in heaven for me i'll be off my nightshift in an hour and a half, so if anyone want to play plz respond
Gavin Moore
That new pvp mode really looks like shit. I'll gladly take 2016's multiplayer instead
Carter Torres
you're trash
Benjamin Brooks
Ah, you know, Doom 3: Lost Mission gets a bad rap. It's underwhelming until you get to Hell, but it absolutely has more Hell content than the base game and RoE combined. Which is what you want from a Doom game.
A prime Doom ratio, to me, is like 1/3rd Mars - or the Bahamas, you can set the real world portion wherever the fuck you want - 2/3rds Hell.
He didn't say there weren't consequences, just it wasn't instant death. maybe you teleport back to the last solid ground you touched but it takes a big chunk of health away? That's how's it's done in Zelda games and it's clones.
David Sullivan
>A prime Doom ratio, to me, is like 1/3rd Mars - or the Bahamas, you can set the real world portion wherever the fuck you want - 2/3rds He imagine having an opinion this shit
Liam Smith
1. Doom 2016 didnt have any secrets so dont expect secrets in the new one
2. Doom guy is a jew lol
Jackson Collins
>Doom 2016 didnt have any secrets That's wrong though
Joseph Barnes
>no mention of Gauss Canon HAH GAYYYYYYYYYYY
Nathan Campbell
Blow me, fuckwad.
Noah Sanchez
>Oldschool game is modified to fit a newer audience. nu/v/ will have a problem with this.
Get over it faggots, video games are an industry that needs to change with audience. Nostalgia=/=soul
Michael Butler
2.5D shooters aren't particularly oldschool, though. There's no Nintendo-secretive bullshit or hidden shit you need to automatically know about.
Just fun, intricately designed levels, heavy-hitting weapons, fast movement speed. When I think of updating that, I think more vertical levels, smarter and more aggressive enemies, so on. Removing hitscan enemies entirely.
Hunter Lewis
>Game that was most popular in 1990s isn't oldschool I agree that there are aspects of the game that I wish were implemented in a newer setting, but we aren't the audience that cooperations are appealing to my man.
Adrian Lewis
>HUD is customizable yeah yeah prepare yourself for some gay ass screenshots
Logan Robinson
Mary-Sue's are despised in books, TV shows, and movies and always have been. I don't know how someone could be so stupid and think power trips are somehow a good thing for you piece of work.
Levi Bennett
That's entirely context dependent. Books, movies, and TV shows can work fine with Mary Sue protags if they know what they're doing and possess a modicum of self-awareness. Stop trying to act smart. You're not good at it.
Jaxson Price
>That's not counting the areas where you're "free There's Hayden's office, what else ?
Elijah Robinson
>No because they lead to the devs not caring about creating and balancing a level properly. Play on higher difficulties, le epic glory kills become a liability the farther and farther you go up the difficulty chain. If you start whoring for each and every glory opportunity you see instead of capping off a fight with them, you'll repeatedly put yourself in the way of attacks.
Aiden Williams
>we want you to be powerful because the slayer ifs powerful >that's why you play the game Nigga I'm playing it for the soundtrack, the raw moment-to-moment and the thrill of overcoming a challenge. If I want a handjob and positive affirmation I'll play a saints row
Easton Cook
Find ONE relatable trait in doomslayer.
Xavier Davis
He likes pets
Ryder Clark
thinks samuel hayden is a colossal fucking faggot
Blake Thompson
Literally the DMCV of FPS.
Adrian Walker
Hates demons and Hell.
Wyatt Murphy
>thinking people play Doom for its story, lore, or characters and not just going around being a badass doing badass shit kek faggot
Evan Baker
Is possible to invade other motherfuckers playing or not?
Elijah Miller
I like both OG Doom and Doom 2016 and I've probably actually played more wads than you.
Liam Thompson
Looks like they're going story heavy in this one, hence why ""doomslayer"" is shit
Joseph Sullivan
>Looks like they're going story heavy in this one Nigga you need new glasses. Your prescription needs updating.
I just want it to be like Quake and Doom and not the Halo clone weird bullshit we got in 2016.
Isaac Long
To be fair the guy was mainly focusing on talking about new features while using a controller and even then he was decent.
Xavier Sanders
They showed a video a few days ago. It's basically monsters vs doomguy.
Henry Baker
what about a nice dinner date
Ian Baker
>Halo clone you really should play the Halo series and see what is is, it's a great experience
Owen White
Curious, when does doom eternal take place. Like how many years passed since 2016.
John Sanders
It has been 3 years, my dude.
Jaxon Morgan
Very funny, but ingame world.
Nicholas Myers
Yeah, the original trilogy is, but DOOM 2016's multiplayer was outsourced to Certain Affinity, the company that made Halo 4's multiplayer.
Both are shit.
Robert Howard
Halo 4 doesn't play anything like the other two. The armor just happens to match.
Jordan Brown
You can have the guy who came up with the idea of doomguy walk up to user and state in front of his face doomguy and doomslayer are the same person and he still won't believe it because he is stuck in that head canon
>glory kills ruin balance Then don’t do them, they’re optional and they look cool, plus with upgraded demons that are more challenging glory kills could end up being more beneficial in eternal >no they are not Not an argument >cutscenes are boring There’s literally one gameplay involved cutscenes, the rest are quick cinematics that are a minute tops. Hayden’s speech was great too >weapons bad and boring That’s why weapon mods existed to make them more powerful and to encourage exploration/challenges >platforms what
Caleb Parker
Genuinely excited for this game, definitely will buy it. A lot of the complaints are about things that are optional to begin with. Multiplayer looks interesting and I’ll give it a shot
Justin Sanchez
>they mentioned they are currently playing through quake 2. Into the trash it goes.
Elijah Sullivan
Ok Todd.
Logan Stewart
>'Heavy' enemies have weakspots In all seriousness, EVERY game needs to do that. Destructible environment? Pfft. Destructible enemies! Now that's more like it. More games should incorporate multiple hitzones for enemy models (not counting the usual headshots), and that doing enough damage to certain hitzones would handicap the enemy and disable or weaken their attacks. Like in Monster Hunter.
I like the part where you can just pop an explosive shot into a Cacodemon’s mouth, and watch it expand as it explodes in its mouth.
Michael Ross
>side missions ? He unironically said that they dropped the whole idea and that slayer just takes the item. >open world you complained about corridors last year didint ya? >leveling upgrades >mtx rtx?
Carson Collins
Damn i'd fuck the kid on the right.
Mason Moore
>i'm a trashman >i eat trash and then throw it all around the stage
That line does make me cringe a little but later on he says stuff about how the demons are tougher and you have to think and work for your successes.
Liam Bell
You didn’t play Doom 2016 because you thought it looked slow? Go pirate it right now you dolt. It’s on sale right now on steam if you’re a pussy. Don’t let the press footage of the game fool you into thinking it’s slow.
Grayson Stewart
Remember that you are talking to sims tier consolefaggots.
Charles Foster
>make Doom >don't make it moddable Wow thanks for a limited shitty console map editor
David Price
>Likes Dead Space >wasn't even sure of Issac's name
Jace Johnson
I still think the game is going to be good but I have some concerns -Marty and Hugo are still talking about "arenas" meaning that players are still being kept in specific areas because consoles can't handle keeping resources in memory and processing extra AIs that the player has potentially bypassed instead of destroying -Players are still getting "points" and they're being used to select upgrades for weapon mods. Nobody liked having to hop through menus in Doom4 and you couldn't even do it during an unskippable VEGA babbling segment because the weapon menu pauses the game. -Chaingun looks like absolute shit -Enemy damage modeling makes them look weak and pathetic
Charles Ross
mtx means microtransactions.
Nolan Thomas
Doom 3 had a pretty similar story to the first Doom, in fact; both have the Mars base running experiments into teleportation tech, only to wind up opening portals to hell.
Where Doom 3 differs is the existence of Betruger, the mad scientist who has secretly sold his soul to Hell and betrayed humanity for power.
Julian Allen
Nah Doom showed that having a silent protagonist can be Kino! Also samuel hayden is a honestly great character.
Joseph Hill
Same goes for nu d44m
Jaxon Wood
I don't get the hate for the "killrooms" in the new Doom. Obviously memory and processing have nothing to do with it, since the levels themselves are fucking huge. The arenas are there to make the gameplay more intense by taking away from the player the ability to simply escape combat. This worked great in Painkiller and works great in D44M. >-Chaingun looks like absolute shit It kinda does. Compared to the sleek mechanical beauty of the well-oiled killing machine in the previous game, the new chaingun looks like a toy with neon lights. >-Enemy damage modeling makes them look weak and pathetic Strongly disagree. This is by far my favorite feature of the new game. Not only it makes you feel like the damage you're doing has some real impact on the enemy by providing the satisfying visual feedback, but it also has gameplay effect, crippling enemies and disabling their most dangerous attacks.
Jace Miller
Well, Doom 3 takes place on Mars, while Ultimate Doom takes place on Phobos, Deimos, Hell, and Earth.
Aaron Morgan
...Now I'm betting somebody is going to put out a Doom mod that replaces him with a pissed off, gun-toting, armor-clad female anthro rabbit, in "homage" of Daisy.
Adrian Hughes
I like the effect it has on the Baron, with it showing more of its skeleton.
Austin Gray
>shooting off layers of fat and skin off mancubus NUT
Luis Cruz
>I don't get the hate for the "killrooms" in the new Doom. Well I have no personal issue with it, I just understand the problem others have with it. Sure, you don't really want to escape the demons in a Doom game, you're there to kill every single one of them. But even though in practice you do just kill them all and move on, in principle that should be your own choice. If you really want to get the worst score you should be able to run past combat engagements like in the earlier games. And it is memory and processing related. When you can keep the player from returning to areas and when you can despawn all the demons from those areas you can save a lot of resources. The part of the level you left doesn't need to exist at all nor do any of the demons there.
Logan Garcia
>I don't get the hate for the "killrooms" in the new Doom. I like it when it happens like... a couple of times throughout the game, and it's taken to absurd lengths. Just wave after wave as a real test of the player's endurance and abilities.
As a regular kind of encounter, though? Kinda lame compared to just putting some dudes in a room and letting you find them.
Parker Watson
>in principle that should be your own choice. Should it really? Your enemies are demons after all, and have no intentions of just letting you stroll by. And from gameplay perspective, killing demons IS what the game is. Skipping combat just to get from point A to point B to progress the "story" is just not Doom. If you want to skip the gameplay, you might as well just skip the game entirely.
That's what I always say to the speedrunners but I understand their argument in principle. A choice is always a choice, even if you personally always choose one way, which is to kill demons. I wouldn't be skipping the Doom gameplay in a Doom game but I'm not going to pretend that the complete inability to do that isn't just a technical compromise caused by a multiplatform launch optimized for the worst platform that compromises all versions.