Underrail expedition thread

I'm stuck in dude's second vision.
How can I open the safe if my lockpicking is shit?
I've clicked on all the interactive objects and containers, there's no key man.

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not everything you can click on is highlighted, try the rug

bottom right corner, thats where the key is

>You can just leave the fucking area and come back from another side and snipe two enemies out of existence each time

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Where do I go to learn new psychic powers? There didn't seem to be any teachers in Rail, are there some in Core City, or Foundry?

i just put down a trap, gatted him, looted his corpse, then ran out

You buy these implants mostly from doctors and electronic shops. Some show up in loot in quests.

im just starting this game, should i use classic or oddity experience?

No more teachers for you, time to burn the knowledge directly into your brain with machines.

Or I guess they're not implants they're electronic devices which teach you one ability.

wait what is that medallion actually supposed to be

Oddity. Classic overlevels you. Oddity is perfectly balanced and matches your experience with the new places you go to rather than with every kill you make.

always oddity
once you go oddity you never go backity

>people bitching about all the threads
>last thread was 16 hours ago
Lads maybe we should slow down on all of the threads, let's just move to a slow ass RSS chat without image support where we belong.

thanks for the detailed info, friend

Heaven forbid people talk about video games.

>5+ smash threads at any given time
>10+ generic threads about some worthless /pol/cucks bickering

>One video game thread
>"NO STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM"

I hate the state of Yea Forums.

NOOOOO MAKE ROOM FOR MY SMASH THREADS
DAE PERSONA?? KOJIMA LMAO

>10 CON
>Metal Armor and AR
>Temporal Manipulation

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Images are for zoners, real men do ASCII.

I snuck in, put x10 MK IV HE mines in his room and waited
game almost crashed

Maybe feeling-commanded niggers gotta become white?

bros this roastie questline in foundry
i was not prepared

bitches be crazy

Never trust a woman who blogs. They are batshit.

is the experienced user of this build here
is not more lockpicking needed?

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no, you'll find items that increase it

>tfw you will never do a Deathray build and burn everything and anything to ash with your dual armflamers.

So which shops sell those? Are they random? I actually just found one in Core from their doc, are there more?

Every med shop has one I think

go chempistol build if you want maximum warcrimes

eyup
psi-beetles become quakers the very second they notice deathray in the vicinity

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anybody beat the game with a crowbar build? even possible?

How do I get more coffee? I need to be Coffee and Cigars psi man.

Check the coffee machine in the expedition camp

Does it replenish, though?

crowbars are too slow and never get any better
I'd be surprised if even the most optimized melee build could kill the last boss before dying, even under the most optimal circumstances

on dominating anyway

after certain events, at least once

I went to go check and it doesn't fuck

Pasquale only fairly late in the game, though on the upside he has Stasis. Ezra also sells his Neurovisual Disruption late.

It seems I must kill Seeger for his coffee machine.

>AR
how does it feel to be a boring person?

.44s, Plasma, Laser, or chem?

Am i meant to be playing on dominating?

I'm enjoying hard but i don't want anonymous internet strangers to think i'm a pussy.

just went on the holy pilgrimage to ray's shop bros, we jetso now depending on what 7k charons gets me with 14 mercantile

Nobody's gonna think you're a pussy for not playing in DOMINATING. Shit's ridiculous. Go for it if you feel up to it tho.

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>what 7k charons gets me with 14 mercantile
hahaha

I already have like 13 rift locations how many are there?

broos why depot a so fucking huge im lost

no. I think the majority of the people in underrail threads play on hard primarily, no doubt there's a few hardcore rail walkers on DOMINATING. normal is alright on your first go, easy is for pipeworkers. stay the fuck off easy, no doubt it's boring as shit

17

Can you get this from him peacefully?

press m nigga

Bres, they just keep coming

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He's literally showing how

Not by pickpocketing.

Fuck you buddy, first time playing in 2 years, I'm going with the safe bet so I can scout out potential future builds.

back to the junk jet. yup

>Fuck you buddy
no, fuck you leather man

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Found the hormone levels of average Underrail player :^)

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anybody that finished with the grey army base can tell me if its worth it to slaughter everyone?, i know that the loot is worth it but i want to know if you get anything special from doing it without being noticed before i genocide the whole place

Nothing Dude doesn't even care

seems kinda gay, try hitting on him. how's your persuasion?

Hello cuck

is this at all like ps:t where I can focus heavily on speech/int/wis and get more out of the story

if so some build advice would be appreciated

there's one unique gun, but you dont need to slaughter the place
and they all have unique armor

no. there's plenty of lore, fun npcs, some good quests, but it's heavily combat focused and you can't avoid that. the talk skills can get you out of the odd scrap or a more favourable quest outcome, but you need to be able to fight and frankly have to enjoy the game's combat.

psionics opens up some lore, too.

I just finished Depot A
That was fucking gay
At least the flamethrower PSI + pyromaniac is fucking amazing and made up for it

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Is there any way to shut these bastards turrets down without hacking in this particular room of Depot A?

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Throwing EMPs and destroying them.

>throw emp
>throw HE
>run away
Repeat until dead

restarted because I made a very shitty build just like Fallout 1 new one works better

>Guzomir
>Explains what "bre" means

As a bosnian this is quite entertaining.

hit and run long-range psionics
or sniper rifles

I want to make a time ninja (melee, throwing, stealth, time magic)
what are the must have talents?
There's like a billion melee talents

also, knives or swords?

I feel like psychosis was a mistake. I'm out of psi quicker than a fat man runs out of chicken wings.

To be fair, it looks like you can increase your pool even as psychosis in the DLC and I don't have much reduction gear.

Swords so you can be le edgy Northern Ninja Samurai weeaboo

Have I got just the thing for you

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dominating is the autismo mode for supreme min maxing. I recall reading the dev didn't even bother playing it all the way to see if it was doable.

For what it's worth, normal in this game so far feels like hard in other games. It's a pretty good difficulty early on. I don't know if it just becomes super easy later on, but most CRPGs are like that.

Does the increased game speed affect merchant restock timers or anything?

Yes so go cave exploring and by the time you come back everyone will have refreshed.

how the fuck do you get a shotgun at the start of the game they are too expensive,i can't pass the persuasion test with out putting points in will and gimping my character, and the starting pistol sucks cock

Snipers just laugh in the face of turrets in general.

me too. I went from tranq no metathermics to psychosis full metathermics.

Depot A was easy on the first build, I want to see how FIREBALLS and BURNING IN FEAR do

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Psychosis is just a necessary eveil in order to obtain Mania.

I am well aware that you only get that after finishing expedition
Still I guess I should go full edgy anime swordman
A shame there's no
TIME HAS STOPPED ability
so I can make a jojo meme build

must've placed 50 bear traps and 30 assorted other traps there at the same time for my second attack and it still got out of control

I just put 3 rows on 2 entrances.

Yeah, I guess that's how I have to look at it.

>play dominating for first time
>Burrower Warriors already showing up in the Save Jenny quest
>one of the first areas with Burrowers in them at all
Didn't these fuckers not show up until the Deep Caverns on normal? I mean this is an optional quest, but still, I'm level 6. Time to cheese with doors and force fields I guess.

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You know, I never thought about putting traps there
I always assume the NPCs will accidentally step on one and aggro on me

Oh so that's how you get his armor

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I wish you could get the improved mobs tactics and spawns without the money and HP reduction. That would be the perfect difficulty for me.

I'll probably try dominating after I beat the game so I can not take social skills and focus harder on the combat ones.

>hating on based increased crit chance because of a little psi cost increase
y'all are bitches

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>that portrait

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oops, wrong one

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Temporal is so good bros. Fits quite possibly every single build in the game like a glove.

knives are more reliable, but with luck a machete is far better
recklessness, weaponsmith, opportunist, sprint, trigger happy, flurry (if machete), cheap shots, expose weakness, ripper, onslaught (machete), decapitate (machete), parry, riposte (machete only?), critical power, cut-throat (if knife), nimble, maybe expertise (if knife), maybe interloper, crippling strike (if knife), quick tinkering is always good, psycho temporal acceleration, fancy footwork (if knife, optional machete), blitz, blindsiding, increased dexterity

if you want to go the bleed route with knives/swords, then taste for blood and eviscerate

that's about all I can think of
maybe fatal throw, grenadier, and three-pointer if you have high throwing and have the room

Their AI doesn't allow them to go further than in front of the stairs.

Swords that can cause bleed have shit damage, though.

yeah, but they can get three wounds at once and flurry can give you a lot of attacks

good to know
time to make the entire place a killzone

Feel free to cover the area with caltrops

How the fuck do I find that weird energy core thing the black shopkeeper in Rail Crossing wants me to get? I have no idea where the fuck to go, his instructions are so fucking vague.

Nice, thanks for the advice, that helps a lot
I was completely lost looking at all the feat list

his instructions are perfect
he tells you exactly what you need to get there

What's the cutoff point for Biology for the general Guns build? I just want it for combat consumables.

>his instructions are so fucking vague
they're pretty accurate. get the compass from your room in sgs and pay attention.

115 if you want regenerative mixture. 135 if you want to become harder, better, faster, and stronger for a limited time.

60 for aegis

underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Biology

>get the compass from your room
Literally a joke item added because apparently some people can't into graphical projections.

50 is a nice cutoff, but up to 130 is helpful
aegis is not vital and its ingredients are a pain to get

130, honestly. Or just look at the wiki and decide what you feel you can sacrifice.

>use flurry
>miss first attack
>cucked for 5 turns
why did styg think this was a good weapon to add to the game?

So this is my plan. The extra points will probably go for stealth and finishing TC, but I wanted this skeleton in place first.

Should I take psychostatic electricity earlier (instead of psychotemporal accel)?

I suppose future orientation could be ditched as well. How important is thermodynamicity? I was not sure how often alternating fire and ice would be the gameplan.

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>its ingredients are a pain to get
>morphine
>common as fuck
>adrenaline
>also super common
>gizzard enzymes
>like a dozen borers that drop it

seems necessary here however

I was thinking that earlier it goes with any build.

what level do you guys start crafting stuff? end game?

135 sounds like too much and the bonuses don't seem that hot to be honest. Aegis is pretty nice and will practically make me invincible considering I also am using Metal Armor. Should I also stop leveling Tailoring somewhere down the line?

What do you plan on making with tailoring?

as a metal armor user?
just figure out what you need for whatever vests/foams you want

before I even get to depot A I already start crafting some basic armor and weapons.
At the latest I make a mutated dog leather armor and boots so I stop being fucked by acid

Ok, so then where is the place I'm looking for then? He said go south, and then west, then south. I did that, I found nothing.

You could have used siphoner too

Going from the tooltip I thought controlled zones only mattered for bombs/traps, I was wrong and now all of core city is hostile after I silently killed someone with no witnesses (superintendant).
My last save was 2-3 levels ago, is it at all possible to edit my save to reset my faction standing?

bros
bros
can anyone help a brother out? I have no clue where to score a bolt quiver. is it just a spawn in random boxes, or can I buy one somewhere?

immediately, disassemble is the best feat to make money with

Which would win? A dozen burrowers or one door?

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Where is the Temporal teacher guy from SGS? He just vanished.

I was under the impression you needed tailoring for most Metal Armor addons.

Occulus usualy sells some lad

He's at core city bar now

Reddit tier trash where melee party > magic in a game that goes out of its way to try have an interesting (but is actually garbage and retarded) magic system

>going 7 INT and wasting a feat to make money slightly faster
Might as well just pick mercantile, you ain't gonna affort that Devastator with Disassemble anyways.

Oh yeah, you can find some simphoners real close to SGS right
I never bother going there anymore

Just the vest and quality of the metal is more important

You do realize you are giving them free turns to make spawns, right?

thanks brother, I've been out at the expeditionary camp. time to make a trek back to underrail.

murder some pirates
every single pirate "pinner" carries one
for that matter, all the pirates carry their "role" belts
>pirate shot = shell belt
>pirate sprayer = bullet belt

>Reddit tier as a descriptor for anything
please isekai yourself via truck, faggot

Go out of Rail Crossing, keep going until you're on the screen with the three way intersection and train tracks. That screen has three exits to the left, on the north platform, on train tracks, or on the south platform. Stand on the south platform and go left until you find a bunch of bandits, then go up and to the left twice.

even better, thanks man
guess I'm not stuck with a junk jet journey to underrail now

Sorry user, you're just too stupid for this quest.

I wouldn't know. I think you replied to the wrong person.

Why would I care about that? Once the normal burrowers are dead a couple shots of Electrokinesis will finish the spawn off.

I usually pick up stuff like grenade, molotov, and repair kit blueprints right after the first quest, then the weapon blueprints before or after GMS depending on if I can find the materials in SGS. crafted stuff is usually cheaper and better, so no reason not to go for it as soon as possible.

the rug

Is it even remotely possible to do a shotgun run focussing on heavy armour without sprint?

If you manage to get a 160 vest, you need 128 tailoring to use it on a suit of metal armor. Also, a 160 black cloth requires 128 tailoring as well. So you can make a balaclava, tabi, and leather armor for sneaking with 0 points in stealth.

???
you are going 7 int for the bonuses you get for the crafting skills and being able to swim in weapon mods and money is just a bonus

Daily reminder if you dont use sledgehammers you're a faggot

you'll be throwing a lot of nets

L2Cope and stop liking reddit tier games you seething tranny

Save yourself the headache man. Get Agility and Temporal.

>Heavy armor without sprint
But why

With psi utility yes

>you are going 7 int for the bonuses you get for the crafting skills
5 is sufficent just for skills, 7 is only justifiable if you want feats. Especially now that we have +2 INT drugs.

>go to mutant island for first expedition quest
>repair the crane when no one is around, go down and do all the stuff
>come back up
>now they aggro me whenever I'm close
Why? They didn't see me go down.

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can anyone fill me in on what melee skill you need to consistently hit these tribal gobbledegook fuckers? they always huff their bathsalts, and get their 40% bonus to dodge, then shout drop off pipeworker in unga bunga
shit's fucked brehs

hey friendos. i wanna do shotgun build. any help with that?

They must have. Or you pissed them off by repairing the generator down there.

My intelligence and will are too low to do any real psi stuff with. I might just have to bite the bullet and spend some of my precious stat increases on boosting my agility for sprint.

Because I'm dumb and bad at this game

Yeah it's this magical ability called a flashbang

>not boosting it by 40% with survival instinct and staying below 30% HP

delay them until it runs out

Do swords use dex or str primarily?

Temporal abilities and force field does not have a will requirement

Yeah I repaired the gen, but how do they even know it was me? And what's wrong with repairing it anyway? I know they didn't see me going in, in fact they don't look red after I come back up and only turn aggro when I close in.

>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
please kill yourself, nu/v/. You have no future after high school and your parents hate you

You don't need any Will for Temporal. Shit my shotgunner has 3 Will.

>Yeah I repaired the gen, but how do they even know it was me?
Because you're the first human they let inside in god knows how long and suddenly all lights started glowing?

>And what's wrong with repairing it anyway?
Because they don't know wtf is going on with the lights being on and you were specifically forbidden from going down there? Talk with the guard at the entrance if you can sneak out.

>survival instinct requires 9 CON

no, the perk is great but the requirements are retarded CON wizzards are not worth it and specially if you are going to stay

>sledgehammers
>not your bare hands
fucking pleb

>this is the casual garbage that invaded this site in the last 10 years

fucking neck yourself already

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I don't want to get one-shot like a bitch

>CON wizzards are not worth it
Why? I was hoping to go 9 CON 9 INT 10 Will

regarding dude quest
so you make juice in a cave with dude and that is all?

Kinda.

either
dex is better

Hahahaha!

It also unlocks things in expedition and the rifts

Is 3 CON viable in hard without Stealth or Evasion/Dodge?

Con Wizards are the only way to play, bre.

Fuck no, are you insane? You'll get one-shot everywhere.

depends. how do you feel about the F9 key?

Maybe if you go all in on initiative and can CC like a mean mofo.

With the magic of save-scumming, and many many grenades, anything is possible.

I can't think of a time where I've tried it.
this
add in lots of move points

Sip juice IN THAT SAME CAVE AND GO INTO THE PORTAL . If you waste your first bottle, quest softlocks and you'll have to either load a save or resort to vile duping sorcery.

Everything about Oculus is so secretive, edgy and anime as fuck it makes me smile.

Do you need persuasion to save buzzer or will an intimidate yell chad work? I want good end but I don't want to waste points.

Crits, movement points and AP for days, bre

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Easy as pie
Didnt break a sweat
Ah
Ahah
Dont fuck with Industrial robots

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Finish up the faceless quest in Foundry to be able to use dialogue options.

Where the actual fuck do I use the inner gate key card?

Fuck Depot A

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Crop your webms for better quality dude, there's no need to see the whole screen when you have only 3 MB to wrk with.

I'm gonna miss Azif once we leave.

Here I go guys. Had to forego Chemistry and Biology to make up for being a dumbass fucker and investing into Evasino. Hopefully Temporal and extrafast will keep me out of melee situations!

ALSO WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE NAME OF THE FEAT THAT TURNS YOUR MOVEMENT POINTS TO AP? I CAN'T FIND IT.

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dude you don't need all that psi shit. It's mega useless. I go just 3 trees and i almost never use psychokinesis. Literally temporal manipulation + thought control is all you need later in the game to beat everything. i occasionally use force field against death stalkers or crawlers but you can also just use flares and have 10 con and you're chill. Only problem i have about trying 2 tree run is early game before you get all your cc from thought conrol a temporal manipulation. otherwise just distort everybody to shreds and dilate everybody so they can't do shit. I also thought about build with more dex so you hit flashbang every time cuz it's super important part. Flashbang huge group and just stack distortion on everybody.

Above ground there are some closed warehouse-like gates with electronic locks next to them.

lads, where do i continue
i just finished the first Gorsky's quest, eradicated the bandits, freed the hostages, sealed the Burrower nest, and got the keycard back to open it
motherfuckers sure are hardcore
should i push through, or rather just get on with Tanner's drill parts?

Blitz.

>10 Agility
Welp, guess I'm not getting that.

It's overrated desu.

Go get some siphoner leather to make some armor.

Go to Junkyard and do 2 Scrapper quests and do all Black Eel quests

>can't fuck Sneaky
Shit game

what does each shotgun shell do

Thanks senpai

>trying to cuck Jon
fucks wrong with you

You can, there is a girl in Foundry named Evelyn you can romance and fug if your persuation is high enough

can't fuck anybody

>can't get cucked by her when she starts missing Jon the Beautiful and also starts shagging Gorsky on the side
shit game

>cucking Jon
You monster.

>telekinesis, temporal stuff, meethatermics, and real good melee and stealth
post build
how did you find enough skill points for all this

NOOOOO bros talk me out of trying new build. I'll never finish the game this way. already on 4th playthrough and just now fixed the tunneler. But i want to go thought control + temporal psion build 2 tree run.

>kill all locusts around a hive
>combat ends
>before I can cast anything, more locusts spawn, getting their full turns again
fuck this dumb shit why the fuck is the hive not considered an enemy
combat should not end until you kill the hive dammit

How do I make a good shotgun build?

Probably ignored crafting.

>be sniper
>just snipe the hive from 20 tiles away because you can shoot objects that are beyond the field of view
lmao

I'm gonna grab a sniper and do this
even if I only got 10% chance to hit, I just have to shoot till I hit

because stealth is better and more useful, with all the cc you get as psi its simply a waste to go CON, you shouldn't be getting hit in the first place

I don't get the universal praise dovos2 gets. Pacing is fucking horrible, rpg elements while having a decent basis hampered into oblivion by arpg rng loot, qol is nonexistent even in a definitive edition, plot kinda decent but delivery is very hit and miss, combat is very messy and gets old by the end of reaper's coast, if not fort joy.

its annoying
but if you win initiative you can just throw a mk 2 frag or something

they hear the noise and come after you

What do you guys think should be put into a psi headband? I was thinking muffler and crit damage, but the thought of buffing one of the individual skills doesn't sound too bad either.

You won't be able to do it fast enough, hives start pumping locuts out as soon as you start shooting at them.

Besides the mega initiative increase having max agility gives you, blitz is a nice last resort if you're a melee fighter or a decent alpha strike buff.

+ to all skills, crit chance, crit damage is what i wear. If you are playing psychosis it might be better to get cost reduction instead of crit chance.

Blitz is good, it's just not some kind of holy grail you absolutely must have like some people say. 20 AP is nice, very nice on some builds, but not always worth so many MPs, 10 AGI and a feat.

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mufflers + distortion improvement is what i'm thinking about. You can kill anything with distortion.

>crit chance
>on a tranquil psi
lol

I was thinking of getting it since I'm also getting Sprint and Hit and Run, but I'm using shotguns.

Those are actually normal cats

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The synergy with fancy footwork makes it worth it for dex melee characters.

Just get the temporal ability that give 30mp and 15ap

my boy. what are you trying to kill my man it must have like milion hp or something

That's nothing.

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How do you work distortion exactly? Just cast twice then force barrier or what? I feel like I'm just asking to get the shit beat out of me while I wait for it to go off, even though yeah, it trucks for damage when you get a good number of stacks rolling.

With Evelyn someone is getting nailed alright,
Prepate to shit your pants.

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I think you can get even higher with blitz shenanigans and adrenaline ofc.

flashbang, fear, mental breakdown, temporal dilation - nothing can ever get to you then adrenaline shot, temporal contraction and you have like milion stacks and everybody dead.

chemistry is for crafting infused mutant tabis for acid puddle immunity.

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the crazy thing is how long range distortion has and also dilation if there are only melees you can dilate them and you focus on ranged guys always

Short barrel or long barrel shotguns? I'm liking the damage on this short barrel I made so far.

that looks real nice
where do you find THE CLAW?

>edition
>last thread link
these are the end times, soon the mods will be upon us and banish us to /vg/ to suffer and die

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Core city sewers, go left after you enter and over the bridge, there's two mutie bums, one of them has it.

Bruh if you have five shot full auto you can follow up with a different shotgun for the sixth shell bonus.

I'm playing on hard and only time i have a big problem is if i miss my flashbang. then i savescum cuz it plays a big role... having better dex or throw would fix that but idk where to get the points for that

Short barrel with foregrip gives the most damage by far for regular shotguns.

Just like 2015/16 then. Enjoy the ride.

Yep. Don't do this when making a new thread.

thanks m8

>edition
I have no idea why people fucking do this
Like YOU KNOW you're not supposed to make it an actual general
It's fine to post about anything on the game, but making an empty post with just "edition" and a link to the last thread is literally a /vg/ thread

Why these are people so stupid? What the fuck does having a link to the last thread adds?
And why are they making a thread if they have nothing to post about in the OP?

>Al Fabet

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Piracy is the only way to gain good jet ski parts if you're not loaded. Make sure to kill any passerbys you find in the underrail waterways. It's always fun to punch a bitch to death on skiback.

>Piracy is the only way to gain good jet ski parts if you're not loaded.
Anti-piracy works better.

is there even any other way to do this?

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Yes, gas nades. Nto a single trap used.

about to drop it, 70 hours in and i cannot stand the insane xcom level of bullshit the way gun accuracy works in this game.
consistently missing 70-80% chance to hit shots forcing me to reload pisses me the fuck off

Haven't played this game but why I feel like Fallout 1 & 2 looks better than it? I don't know how you manage to look uglier aesthetically than a 1998 game, the portraits look neat though.

Or just steal the parts straight off the devastator for free with zero stealth

Stand at the top of the stairs and punch them to death

18

>looting junk jets and scrap heaps
lol

>70-80% chance to hit
Should have raised your perception and used flashbangs

I always buy his brain as soon as I meet him
I took it to the end boss last run

jesus christ

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i have 10 perception and max gun skill for level 16.

Based retard.

The only infuriating thing is how only PSI has a 100% chance to hit, for everything else 95% is the cap, which makes no sesne for stunned characters at least.

How do you even carry that many traps?

this doesn't seem very cost efficient tbqhwy bre

Night vision goggles, molotovs, staying in range, not getting the move and shoot penalty?

The accuracy boost for perception seems minor as hell. Lighting something on fire or using night vision goggles gives a bigger boost than it ever did.

>Not putting your burrower poision at the gate
I tell you what breh, burrower poision is increased by contaminated debuff, same shit with burrower poision caltrops
Also get burrower poision caltrops

>no speedup
Update your underrail. Base game, not only the expansion.

i use night vision, i dont move im playing a fuckin stealth sniper and im literally consistently missing my 80% snipe from stealth
there is no excuse for it happening unless the game is literally coded to lie about hit chance to you because the game acts like i have more like a 20% chance to hit.
its xcom rng bullshit

Do you also get his sword?

>if you take enough damage from locusts tiny locusts spawn next to you
WHAT THE FUCK

What are you even talking about, brainlet? First of all, it doesn't matter what the ski is, all can be equipped with quality parts such as medium jet shocks SE, XG Alpha 2.7 or Current 800. Second of all, random zoners are riding the same scrap tins pirates do.

I made it to Core City with a 3 tree build with tranq (no metathermics). It was strong, but not very fun.

The Metathermics tree is pretty fun as I'm enjoying this character more so far. I just really like fireballs and ice shards, I suppose.

Why the fuck can't I use nanocomposite plate to craft riot gear?

This screenshot was like a year ago, before expedition

Should have gotten the CAU suit.

You're their mommy/daddy/host

>consistently missing 70-80% chance to hit shots
Every time.

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>HATE MISS CHANCE
my good pleb, have I told you about the wonderful world of psionics?
Where you never have to deal with miss chance?

Because the plate component for riot armor isn't an armor plate for your vest. It's a shield that you hold. You have to use a sheet of metal.

How viable is ignoring crafting to go all in on combat, anyways? Like if you wanted to do a punch guy with high will and stats in psi to actually cast stuff.

That's a lot of points to be used on combat after lockpicking/hacking are covered.

>crit pyrokinesis to your own feet

Or a carapace

>CAU suit
where can I get that?

Viable, pretty much always suboptimal.

Do the protectorate or free drones questline, the protectorate one is way way easier and just requires some exploring.

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Eh.

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what's this game about

You will lack the optimal gear to support your build.
Punch guy will lack infused leather stuff and psi counterpart will lack psi cost reduction gear.

guess it's time to come back to the underrail

fuck me, that's a lot of damage

how you doing that?

>'omae wa mou shindeiru'
"Nani?"

Heartbreaker armor is the best bio armor now. You can hit 100% DRwith armor + tabis. CAU is still king vs. acid tho.

Surface is fucked, everyone lives underground in giant railway systems/caves/old world complexes
You play as some random fag who joins a station and you go do errands for them and eventually get yourself into some bullshit

So, does this game suck or not?

>CAU is still king vs. acid tho.
Yeah and guess what you will inevitably run into in the black sea?

Eh, I always thought finding gear was more fun than making it, but if you're always going to be weak vs a crafter even with super beefed combat options, there's no point.

I'll just keep going with my crafter guy.

Eh, never really felt like fighting wyrms on a ski, shields work well enough for then.

Most of the good stuff simply can not be found since it literally does not exist outside of crafting and uniques are often not so great.

Headband with Distortion filter and Empowered TM. Could have made it higher if I reached max level and used a tempo modulator instead of uni-psi, but what's done is done. Everything still exploded in one blinding flash of green.

bre, kinda triggers me that styg made temporal manipulation as a support school even thought distortion is literally the best psi ability in the game

CAU also now gives 100% more resist and threshold against melee making it OP as fuck early game.

it literally depends on your build, all builds benefit from crafting, but some BIS items for some builds are uniques and no crafting can replace them

you could still be better with both since i don't think there is any build that benefits from all slots being uniques but its definitely not necessary

traps is love, traps is life

Stasis allows for hilarity even with non psi builds

aw, I never saw that

I went with sectrooper armor, heartbreaker armor, heartbreaker striders for higher mech DT

How the fuck am I supposed to deal with this shit as melee?

34812 ranged bugs that keeps respawning, hives that are immune to everything and fucking seaserpents shooting me

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Told you about the cau armor bro I told you

lmao

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Heartbreaker armor bre, and a lotta grenades. Hives dont respawn infinitely, just cull the horde enough while your shield and broken heart leather vest deny damage.

where do i get it?

Get a sniper, you don't need to be proficient with it, you can snipe them out of range without the aggro, bring mollys and watch the fuckers burn

DOS2 is the only cRPG I played and I enjoyed it. Would I like this one ?

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...

what level should i start the expansion? and its side content right meant to be done before beating the game?

okay

tranquility + spec
advanced psi empathy
muffled headband
psibeetle carapace
that one staff
brain soup
doctors belt

vitality powder
blitz + specs
temporal acceleration + specs (2 points)

cigar
spirit potion
psi accelerator
neurology
meditation
mantra

am I missing anything?

how many distortions could you throw on one target?

15

I think it's quite funny actually.

Forgot to mention, Snipe the HIVES

Is starting with 3 CON viable or just retarded? Trying to go stealth.

Depends on the build. What are you using and what will you do when you come out of stealth?

perhaps

fine with stealth

recommended keybinds?

if you go super permadruggie guy and always win intiative roll and have 10 perception so stealthshit doesnt oneshot you than maybe. Have fun with 0 error margin though.

as long as you have stealth and know what you are doing its fine, some of the most min-maxed builds usually drop CON, but remember that you need to avoid getting hit at all if you dump CON, psi works best like that because of all the CC it gives you

I play with 4 con, as long as you take out the most threatening guys first i never had a problem

Nope. The story is functional and interesting at points, but this is primarily an exploration and combat focused game.

Are any of the new infused leathers good?

It used to be 75%, user. It's better, but it's nothing new.

yes, i think you would like this game a lot Mr Ride, its got a lot of noided shit in it

Is it possible to do the Free Drones quests without investing in stealth?

I gotta say, this expedition is really pushing my patience

The amount of repeat fights is just so tiresome
every fucking cavern has at least 1 crab ambush of 3 crabs +2 psionic crabs who cast lightning stun every round
And of course they have ridiculous fucking mechanical resistance, and are immune to stuns
It's not fucking fun to fight, and they're everywhere. I'm pretty sure I fought the exact same encounter at least 5 times in the last hour.

Worst is how it's never fucking simple getting anywhere
>want to get into bioplant place
>fight trough a billion fucking hives
>oh sorry, you don't have agility or str? Fuck you find another path

I'm retarded, can someone just tell me the solution for the dude's puzzle?

Yes but you better get ready to kill a dreadnought

Yeah open the door and kill the mutants

>Hives
>Insects
>Red rotting mushroom things

Goddamn bros I thought I was out of it I don't wanna do it again

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Use the savage drugs and rathound barbeque for a 5str boost

use ur jetski my dude

What about that initial with the old guy in Junkyard? Don't you need stealth to plant that bug in the embassy without getting your shit wrecked?

16, if I'm counting right.

Shotguns, ARs, SMGs, Pistols, or Crossbows for ranged?

isn't there a drones outpost in junkyard? how do I access it
I want more loot to sell, the scrapper gun goldmine has run dry bros

I started it a little before 15 like 12 or something and was able to do the first couple of things but had to go back pretty soon.

Yea I love getting rocks thrown at me for 150 fucking damage. What's the code for the console?

You can use persuasion of like 30 or 10 with heartbeaker armor and boots to give you +20 persuasion to avoid using stealth or craft some stealth gear and do it that way

some of them are almost vital for certain areas

Are machetes as bad as people say there are right now or is it typical whinging that it's not OP?

They are a RNG weapon that will fuck you if you miss a hit.

They are high risk high reward, basically. Amazing when the flurry connect, fucked if it doesn't.

Machetes are risky, so savescumming pussies can't handle them. Takes a good player to appreciate the sheer power.

You can do 15 stacks with tranq+spec, blitz, psi haste and adrenaline shot at least.
13 AP per cast.
Turn 1: 50 base+20 psi haste+20 adrenaline+20 blitz = 8 casts+1 from premediation.
Turn 2: you have 90 ap which is 1 ap short of 8 casts, feels bad...

That outpost doesn't have a merchant.

I really wish saving was faster

Stealthy, crossbow wielding trapper is a lot of fun in my opinion. Every encounter you get to scout ahead, then lay a whole killing field of traps before sniping and stunning some poor sap with a shock bolt.

you misunderstand
I want to sell their weapons

How am I supposed to use my jetski here?
>Use the savage drugs and rathound barbeque for a 5str boost
It needs str 9.
I have str 3.
5+3=8
not enough

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Just do the free drones quests

rathound regalia +1

Any of you lads have a list or remember any? I'm trying to compile all of them

get the power fist or the rathound regalia for +1 str

nah, bre
already have the plot item for the final protectorate quest
and I have next to no armor pen, I assume combat will be inevitable with a metal armored solider even with my stealth, so its just not worth doing the drones quests with this character

Adding blitz and temporal acceleration specs you can reach 118 ap (13*9=117) on first turn and 92 on second, so it should be like 17 in total.

Use traps lots and lots of traps

no coop no buy

getting tight. turns out saban is a .44 chad, but i dunno if he's the right guy for the job.

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>no multiplayer
Hard pass.

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So, how many of you found the torch by now?

so I'm gonna have to go back into the underrail to find enough shit to boost my str so I can push some debris aside
Wish people in these threads warned me that high agi or str is nearly mandatory for the expansion.

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nigger what are you doing, just use gas grenades and poison caltrops

you don't have strength, you don't have agility, you can't fight shit properly, what the hell can you do then?

used caltrops. too early for gas grenades. crafting is bitch work that makes the game too cheap.

i can't imagine a person that could suffer through having 10 agi as psion without consitution or crafting just so he can have insane single target nuke.

need to stockpile traps for the beast already, not liking the prospect of doing it twice
though I doubt I'd need as many traps for the metal armor fags
the CAU armor just seems like a better option to me, will be nice until I can score a better alternative in expedition

I think they are a little OP

those bear traps are bugged

you could always cry about it

>those bear traps are bugged
how so?

We are speaking theoretically, not practically, jack.

you can get 10 agility, 10 will, and 8 con at 1st level
and if you max your craft skills, you should still be able to craft the psi items you want, because none of them require particularly high craft totals

>filled a screen with beartraps that require 0 traps skill, always work and are ridiculously effective
>but crafting makes the game too cheap

really?

look at your picture more carefully

>you can't fight shit properly
You don't need str or agi to fight properly
I can fight just fine. Genocided the pirates, and everything in my way so far. But my agi is 6 (for sprint) and my str is 3. Not a fan of these "you must have put this many points in stats to enter" gates.

I have 10 int, where's the part saying "you gotta have 9 int to pass"? Why only str and agi?

So what is the Protectorate? Should I help the rebels free maura [/spoiler] or report their prison break to the embassy?

By the way there's three oddities in the protectorate headquarters.

philosophy feat and Yngvar the savage interactions

No no no no no free maura does not affect protectorate or free drones and you should absolutely free her because the rewards are fucking huge.

give me a scenario where you would require intelligence to pass through an obstacle

because just like there are areas or things that you can only get with high INT or high WILL there are places you can only get with STR or AGI, thats how rpgs work, and you are not even locked out of it, just go take the drugs, get the items that boos STR and get in, you literally can do it all, you just have to put some effort into it instead of being granted everything just for existing

>the game
>one encounter
crafting is the single most imbalancing factor in the game. this is one scripted encounter and i'm a throwing knives guy. i do craft knives, traps, and caltrops. context is important, or do you think i win every fight this way?
where's the bug? or did you mean cheap? yeah, it's cheap but necessary in this instance.

NO, free maura or you lock yourself out of one of the best questchains in the game

If you report it, you cuck yourself out of one of the most ebin quest lines of the game. Abram isn't a free drone

then why not just craft gas grenades for that single fight and be done with it, its certainly less cheap than filling the screen with traps, and probably a lot less time consuming

Yup.

How good are shotties?

Pew pew!

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Pure psionics is too boring and easy
What weapon goes best with having only a little bit of psi? Preferably ranged.

skill point investment in chemistry and wouldn't enable me to win this fight, i'd still need traps.

My favorite infinitely reusable psi grenade.

Literally any of them now with the temporal buffs

Ok sweet, thanks. I thought I was helping retarded anarchists but I was unsure as like you said, it'd probably lock me out of content

Good reason to always have 20 bottles of Juice on you. Cheers!

Chem pistols or .44s. Sniper rifles are good too.

if you aren't taking skillpoints for crafting then you should be swimming in extra points, just getting the 20 effective points needed for them can't be that hard and it would make the fight much easier and won't require the massive trap spam, and it's not like gas grenades are not useful for other fights

if you went psi without con what would you take to dominate everyting without savescumming on hard? i just recently figured out that you can start combat by yourself if you see enemy kinda helped me with the initiative problem. Only big deal is all those stuns later(all the psionics and shit) sure you can have locus of control but how do you even survive till you have it? i'm playing with thick skull so all is good but i can't imagine what i would till i got locus.

>as tranq burrowers were tough even with points in throw
>now as psychosis with full nukes and no throw, they're a cakewalk

this run is turning into good times

you have two magnesium grenades on your bar
did you not craft those yourself? they require 40 chemistry, I think gas grenades require much less, could be remembering incorrectly though, haven't made them since my last playthrough.

Forget it being a reusable grenade, its greatest superpower is having the chillest conversation you'll ever have with Six. He is friendly and helpful, imagine that!

thick skull is terrible for LoC builds. When you get it, those stuns will now turn into daze which you cannot remove with LoC now

...Wait, what? Fucking really? Where and when? I already met him at Occulus

Holy shit I need to move my ass to the deep caverns already

For dude's first vision quest with the 100 lock what do I do if I can't pick it?

LoC has a long ass cooldown, dude.

sure i could have done this, but i'm deliberately not crafting anything but knives/caltrops/bear traps/taser, and i have stuff like pickpocket (which it turns out is super cheap). there is also the novelty of doing the field of traps. it's fun. i stood at the top of the steps split sparing cave ear poison down the steps.
i got jumped by that arsonist rare guy, he had them.

Flashbangs

there are plenty of conversation and item interactions that require high intelligence

the bear traps are floating above you, dingus

as a tranq guy I'd get them choked up in bear traps, hit a burrower with thermo destab and just bomb the shit out of them until it died
that would kill the warriors too

bottom right corner of room; some things dont show up when you hit tab

check the far south eastern floor tile in the room

Deep Caverns. He answers all of your questions, explains what you've seen at the Black Sea, and even tolerates your attitude without getting too offended.

>the bear traps are floating above you, dingus
oh, that's because i have unobscuration alpha at 100% i guess. also checked.

which you miss more often than not

I got mine off of him as well
I plan on eventually pumping chemistry later on to make my own
keep kicking bladeling ass, man. godspeed

My fucking god, it's a miracle. Now if only Stygg let us kill the bastard and be bros with Tanner

you should not be needing to remove more than one stun in the beginning of combat unless your psi build is wildly ineffective even on DOM

Bring the acorn to Tanner and it's so fucking obvious what he wants with it.

I need basic builds for a beginner to Underrail, please.
Whatever you like, but please be specific on what to take.

To open the cube?

How do I get out of the beginning caves?

user what do you think happens when you combine super nanomachines with infinite power?

Holy fuck there are so many feats that I want to take as a swordsman, jesus christ

Don't tell me you start every fight with an AOE Enrage. That'd make shit boring as fuck. You're not always in the position to enrage a significant portion of your enemies. Also, stuns are fucking everywhere with sledges, flashbangs, and electric attacks.

That was hilarious.
>have you heard of the acorn?
>why do you ask?
>nvm let's change the topic
>NO

I also like that the poor professor is like the only person who didn't know what the thing was. Everyone else is like "yeah, of course I know of the acorns".

...Oh, that makes some amount of sense. Still not sure what he'd do with it.

Everyone says the Depot A is the filter, but Rail Crossing is literally twice as difficult. As a stealth pistol guy I literally cannot damage the faceless at all and they detect all my traps. Even my HE grenade Mk IIs only do like 40 damge.

I mean hey, if it works for you, go for it. There's a reason why everyone will say that feat is a mistake with LoC, and you'll discover it soon enough.

Even the protectorate knows

you are the first person to say that
there's gotta be some kind of prize

>As a stealth pistol guy I literally cannot damage the faceless at all and they detect all my traps
>fighting the faceless
Found your problem right there

please
trust me on this
DO NOT FIGHT THE FACELESS
YOU WILL REGRET IT DEEPLY IN THE FINAL AREA OF THE GAME

who did you talk to?

*whoosh noise*

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>survives the filter
>is this stupid
Did your mommy play Depot A for you?

You can actually exterminate them at Rail Crossing but still be friendly with them in DC.

Cathart, duh.

They had a file on it some literal who could dig up in less than 10 minutes with pictures and everything. I feel bad for Oldfield.

Colonel Cathcart at fort apogee

The saddest part is, the Protectorate is gonna takie it away from him as soon as he's back at Dis anyways.

CRAWWWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIN! THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEEEEEAL! FEAR IS HOW I FAAAAAAALLL! CONFUSING WHAT IS REAAAAAL!

>mfw Yea Forums just told me I missed out on something
Fuck. Abram looked like some trenchcoat edgelord fag, I thought turning him in was the best thing to do.

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I beat so many of them to death. Flaring them out became a fun game.

I NEED an unarmed/fist build
I'm new and this is what I want

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Did somebody say unarmed fist build?

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Just to make sure but machetes aren't considered a light weapon, right? So pumping DEX is useless aside from perk requirements.

I haven't played psi yet, but I don't get this tranq vs psychosis thing. How the hell could 15% crit make that big a difference? I get more than that from my goggles.

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Best part is if you refuse to go meet up with him he comes to murder you

you missed literally the best questchain in the game (prior to the expansion) and one of the most useful rewards of the game + a lot of lore and a spectacular merchant, but don't worry the questchain is easy to fuckup if you don't know you have to avoid fucking it up

>What is crit chance

Wow

"You mean you didn't genocide the natives on site without finding the friendly"

Look up what mania does.

the second feat you can take after psychosis is an on demand free critical with a 3t cooldown, that + the extra psi crit chance that isn't easy to come by is spectacular

I have no idea what this means
I will download and apply what I can though, thanks user

>fisherman
based
I started over my first expedition attempt 15 hours in because I realized I locked myself out of that quest because I talked shit and walked away
I thought he'd still talk to me later initially, went back and he tells me to drop off

Really? What a fucking edgelord.

Seriously, though, what the fuck is up with his post-apocalyptic slav weeaboo ass?

I don't think he'll mind it that much since that box isn't going to take him to Horizon. Actually I wanted to go to Horizon too, instead we get nanomachines with an unbreakable lock. What a letdown.

you're right that they're not light weapons. you'd still want a decent base of dex for perks and also if you aren't pumping strength you need a high dex simply to scale your melee well.
the extra crit chance is nice as well, swords want every single point of crit they can get.

you want dex
the crit bonus is better than the slight str bonus
and you get bonuses to several other skills

there is a higher level feat that requires psychosis that lets you have an on-demand crit
starting off encounters by throwing a fireball that you know will crit is a powerful tool

>95% hitchance
>miss
>miss
>miss

The north is a weird fucking place

I'm sure it will be of use once we get to Underrail 2. And hey, it's still an invalueable piece of Cube-tier tech you are carrying around.

Do I have to pick between Coretech, Praetorian, or Biocorp? Do they each give rewards for a specific build or can I just clear all of them?

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Wait, that means you can actually fucking get his shit legaly. Thats fucking ground breaking shit jack.

It's perfect if you're going for an Ali kind of fist puncher. You float like a butterfly and sting like a fucking AR. You can swap three agility for CON or to max out strength or dex. You don't really need to have blitz but the bonus initiative and alpha strike is just too good for me.

can I pickpocket any of them?
I know that one is on a dreadnought, which I am sure a fuck not killing

You don't need Yngvar's help to find shard. There is a cenotaph at the northwestern village with required rune and Ferryman tells you in which body part the Shart is . Also, I found it by checking each corpse until I found the big guy.

He's from Hexagon, aka cyberpunk central.

It triggered after I talked to the protectorate about it but didn't give it to them

Bitch died like one when I killed him. So much for his getup.

The what? where is my precious

pick between.
coretech has high tech sort of rewards and items in its shop, jkk has crossbows and stealth related rewards, the jkk shop is really nice for a crossbow character, and it has 10 mk 3 lockpicks each shop inventory reset. I can't remember if the others do
dunno about praetorian though, I assume heavy armor assault rifle guy type rewards

Go to the upper offices and chuck a grenade right at the red line then move your ass to the wardrobes in the back

>still carrying around
Im-fucking-plying. I gave it to Ezra, finished to job Biocorp started 300 years ago.

I'm going with Stealth/Guns/Traps so I imagine I want JKK the most, then

JKK, not biocorp, but yeah you gotta choose one to side with. If you like technology stuff, go with coretech. if you like guns n stuff, go with praetorian, if you like stealthy stuff go with JKK
God I wish you could side with biocorp
BIOCORP DID NOTHING WRONG

user's introduction to statistics

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Find the 3 codes in the room, add up all the numbers in each line that shows in the console, should be fairly easy afterwards.

You could give it to him? I didn't see any dialogue.

was biocorp's mutagenic holocaust of the lemurians justified?

They were tearing into the fucking shadowrealm filled with snake wraiths and insanity, they deserved everything they got.

Only after Deep Caverns. Otherwise it goes to Tanner.

thanks man, heading up there soon, just running through past areas right now scoring oddities left and right

Yes they totally deserved it for the shit they were up to

I was joking around, didn't expect a serious response, glad I just glanced over that, build too weak for expedition right now

Just got this, anything I should know before jumping in?

Holy fucking shit

Hahaha, make sure to bring plasma weapons with you.

Plan out your build carefully. Come seek help/advice on builds in these threads.

What?

it works well if you have that perk where u can make stronger energy shields. As the energy shield can be really tanky.

a gun build has a weak start, don't let that discourage you however. also the shotgun is not worth it if you meet the persuasion check. you'll blow through all your shells and buying more is too costly early game. you'll see what I mean when you get started, even if you're not even doing a gun build.

I go with Praetorian just to have another person to sell guns to. Guns are the most abundant loot in the game and only 4 fucking NPCs ever buy them.

Imagine playing Underrail online with Yea Forums

My favorite are the Faceless though.
>No fuck you, we we aren't taking your mystery box, it's probably a trap you were mindcontrolled into believing is something else! Take it away! Take it away!

I've already beaten the game before and was able to befriend the faceless even after killing them at rail crossing. I guess there's a non-hostile way to finish the mission? I know about the tunnel, I just thought taking out the faceless would be easier than fighting 20 burrower spawns hitting 5 4-10s per turn.

Imagine being able to mod in recipes so we can cook

Well it wouldn't have been the first time biocorp pulled that shit

that's not the problem, if you are going to be depending on your shield/not getting hit, then why would you take CON in the first place, the point is that the 30% crit chance is not worth all the points you need on CON that could be used for other much needed attributes that will eventually lead to more damage/utility than 30% crit chance (this is not even counting things that can pierce your shields)

>Using the XAL-001 they give you during the quest
>It absolutely shreds fucking everything

Is this just good because of the fatal flaw it has or do acid pistols just kick this much ass normally?

I got the electronics skill for plasma mine crafting, but not the traps to use them. I hope to change that next level up
any hints as to where the plasma grenade blueprint is?
do you mean for the strongmen? I just stealthed past the guys in the warehouse using grenades to kite them away from where I wanted to go.

You can skip it completely if you get the bloody computer at upper underrail and then talk to the foundry faceless

The only real flaw is is the constant entanglement but that can be solved with escape artist.

Most of acid pistols are beast

acid pistols are just badass normally, though that one is a massive step up from the base pistols. but the base pistols with a the advanced belt and related feats fucking dominate as well

Keep advancing in expedition and check every container

Yeah, sure I meant that. Remember, energy weapons do damage to practically everything in the game.

>any hints as to where the plasma grenade blueprint is?
not 100%, but I found a bunch of good blueprints here:
go to port crag, the lighthouse, go down, then east, then north

I'm having a fucking blast with my chemical pistol scientist character. I feel like I'm a demoman.

Wait until you get the extra special belt and armor