Is Morrowind still worth playing?

>472049106
stale

>not an actual Morrowind thread
Fag

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How did I do lads?

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But your pic is wrong. Females don't even need to be not fat. They literally only have to exist.

just kys, that'll show him!

Well...

I mean OP posted a guide you getting girls, did you read that? If you have no one particular in mind than doing the things in OP's pic will dramatically increase your chances.

Are you guys mad i fullfil every requirement for men?

imagine unironically replying to a pasta

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but even landwhale womens have droves of retards trying to date them

Still?

>!

I-imagine being unironically a bully ;.;

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>m.jpg
imagine being a phoneposter

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You’re right, I’m sorry. I won’t ever be mean to you again.

>"Don't date me you weirdo."
>Ok I won't.
>"Wait where are you going? Don't drop out of the norm! You loser!"
Can't win

Yeah, openMW is great, BUT it will really make you hate skyrim and the general direction bethesda is going in.

Morrowind combat is pretty shit and there's no point in sugar coating that, but the writing is some of the best I've ever come across in a game, and the sense of exploration is great. The entire environment is kind of dark and muddy, but the game does a really good job of making you feel small and insignificant and scaring you of entering new areas with higher level enemies. Compare that to skyrim where you can very easily get around the entire map and become familiar with it, and it's a much nicer feeling. Oblivion was a mix between the two, but I'd say that the exploration there was still better than in skyrim.

Idk, I'm asking you. I have a shitty mac, so I can't play high quality games.

Toasters can run morrowind on them. Get used to saving after every fight though.

Is it for casuals. Ill probably play on easy just for something to do occasionally. Sorry I suck.

Stand up for yourself, your dad sounds like a pussy that prefers insulting instead of helping. My dad turn around and insult me like that I wouldn't sit on a fucking image board and complain to nobody while YOU FUCKING MAKE HIM RIGHT BY BEING A BITCH AND NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!

>-Don't be a landwhale

it's disgusting that so many women fail even at that. You just have ONE CONDITION

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We'll get there, bro.

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not really desu bro. By default casting spells and attacking with a weapon follows a DND style roll stat, so it's possible to 'miss' an enemy with a sword even if you're in range and click on them. There are mods that change that which throws off the balance a bit, but like I said no one really plays morrowind for the combat so it's alright.

Otherwise, if you're not interested in reading and exploring, I wouldn't recommend it. Everything is way more complicated than even oblivion, and skyrim is so simplified it doesn't even seem like it was made by the same developers.

What games are there that let you get friendzoned?

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have you ever turned down a girl on a date Yea Forums?

be honest

americans disgust me

God damn this is such a pathetic image on so many levels. Partly because of and partly because you don't have to do 99% of those things. Literally just be yourself. If you don't get girls that way then stop trying. Seriously. Just stop stressing about it, stop being an actual incel

>must always have a job
Only really matters if you're in your mid 20s or later and even then you should have one anyway because it's free money
>Have friends and be sociable
Okay?? How else do you expect to meet anyone? At leave have internet friends. Girls have to do this too, even more than you, since female social groups are even more petty.
>Be good at something
Life isn't some teen drama, you don't have to win the school olympics to carry away your crush
But again, why wouldn't you do this anyway? You enjoy being useless?
>Be at least somewhat muscular
This is a meme. No one cares if you lift. "Uhh yeah sorry I'm not interested you don't bench enough" - t. no one ever
>Constantly approach women
Yikes, no, don't be desperate
>Don't be meaningfully shy, ever
I don't know what this is even supposed to mean, but being shy is fine and can be cute. Again if you're not a fucking misanthrope
>No disabilities
This goes for everyone, it's natural selection, get over it.
>Have sexual experience
This doesn't matter unless you make it completely obvious you're a thirsty virgin, and that's a personality problem.
>Have relationship experience
AKA don't be an asshole
>have a low body fat %
Yeah, don't be a fucking obese slob. Again, why are you not doing this anyway?
>Have intelligence but... [I am very smart]
yawn
>Don't have bad skin
yeah basic hygeine
>Be able to provide
Yeah, you want to have independence don't you? Or do you want your gf to also be your mommy? don't be a faggot
>Have your own home
See above
>have a car
See above
>have income
see above
>be older
doesn't matter
>be taller
Again, natural selection, if your genes are shit just get over it.

>Vegetarian
>Obese
Why is this so common?

>don't be a landwhale
They don't even have that standard to uphold. Almost every woman where I live is fucking fat and many have thin/normal or even fit husbands. It's insane.

on a date no but I've turned down many

No. Since I never got asked. Men will ask out any woman, but women only ever are interested in the top 10% when asking, which is rare in and of itself.

>that pic
so what you're saying is men don't have standards?

Yes. One night shift we started making out, went to the fire exit stairs and took it further.
Next day she wanted to start dating, said no. She wasn't really attractive, I just had never had a petite girl and was insanely lustful that night. Didn't wanna waste a good boner.

They're vegetarian because they're obese. They were already fat as fuck then jumped on a meme diet to feel good and self-righteous. There's so many fat vegan chicks too.
>eats 8000 calories of vegan garbage
>"I-it's healthy!"

Yes. There was this one girl who was really pimpley and awkward and I was interested in this 10/10 danish babe instead who didn't shave her legs and had blonde leg hair and this gave me a slight fetish, I ended up hooking up with someone completely different though, a kind of shy redhead. We lost contact and years later she completely changed and became kind of a thot

yeah, there was a cute girl who actually liked me in high school and was forward about it, but I was so shy, embarrassed, and scared to talk to girls. I basically had the maturity of a child back then and had a traumatic incident when I was in 2nd grade where I told a friend about a girl I had a crush on, he told the whole class, and everybody EVERYBODY laughed at me.

You sex starved virgins are so fucking crazy, this isn't remotely true. Imagine dating a person who's only positive is that they aren't fat. It would be absolutely insufferable to you. Imagine dating one of those tumblr cat lady types just because you want to fuck.
Sex isnt some amazing comodity if its just for the sole purpose of pleasure. Masturbation acheives the same thing.

They can't afford them. If men had even 1/10 of the standards women have, humanity would go extinct within a hand full of generation.

Vegetarianism doesn't restrict carbs and sugar.

True, they don't even have to be not-fat, they only have to exist.

>If men had even 1/10 of the standards women have, humanity would go extinct within a hand full of generation.
Nice projection. Allow me to translate
>If I had 1/10 the standards a normal person has, I'd never have sex

But shit like cakes and pastries all contain at least eggs and dairy. Even bread might

>le men don't have standards meme
Men drop realtionships as easily as women do, if they're thinking of getting serious and it's some shithead woman with no future or prospects they will leave. Seen it before and have done it myself
Unless you're talking about just banging, then the only thing that matters for both sides is an attractive personality and body.
And even then you can throw everything out the window because there a multiple couples out there that breaks all these rules.

OP, I'm begging ya to have sex and stop having women living in your head rent-free.

This is the problem. So many desperate beta male retards will fawn over the most insufferable ugly bitch because their entire self worth is tied to their ability/frequency to bang. Why should these vapid cunts settle for losers when they are getting offers from men way higher up in every way?

Sorry I want a decent wife, not some skank.

Don't you have a sex strike to shill on twatter?
Oh, right

PROTIP: even if you do all of those things, you still probably won't get a gf if you're a misogynist or racist. believe it or not, but your political opinions matter more than that laundry list of superficial bullshit

you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

Ovovegitarianism is a thing.

There are dairy free pastries you tard

Not a girl but one of my guy friends tried coming on to me and I told him that I wasn't gay. He's still in the closet and I haven't mentioned it to anyone else in our group but it makes hanging out with him weird.

Gross. Go be a degenerate elsewhere.

Hey user I think you posted the wrong picture. You might want to delete this post and make a new one with a picture that's related to the game you want to discuss. I got your back bro.

One problem in your 'logic'. misogyny and racism don't matter to women. If you are hot enough/rich enough/famous enough (aka "Chad"), no woman will give a shit.

Not true if you look for your bitch at church. Those psycho jesus cunts love racists and being treated like subhumans for being women.

A date, no. But I've turned down free sex twice and shot down several girls asking to go steady.

Have a gf.

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They're delusional. The shit like the OP image is the male equivalent of #justgirlthings or "live laugh love", it's insufferable feel good trash for them to stroke their egos with. They say none of that matters but OH she has to be white and a virgin and no tattoos or piercings and no interests I don't like and no thinking things I don't agree with. Also she can't have any friends because I'm insecure, and she has to be shy but also be the one to approach me. Also she has to be a housewife and not have any prospects of her own yet somehow still be interesting and have hobbies. But not too many hobbies now, don't want her to have independence or anything.

Besides, incels don't realize that their dicks are probably so desensitized from porn that their standards are subtly shifted to be incredibly high. This is why you see the phenomenon of neckbeards saying "2/10 kneecaps too wrinkly" and shit, they're actually even more picky than women. Way more picky. They just don't realize it because they think it's normal.

They don't want a girl, they want a waifu. They want an idealized female piece of property they can play out incel fantasies with.

Yes because she was my good friend's gf.
I was a shithead teen and didn't tell him, it became a fucking mess when they started fighting

Also a lot of guys. For some fucking reason every gay guy think's I'm gay or bi wtf

?????
Im just telling you it exists you schizo weirdo. Have sex with your mothers decapitated head before you throw it into a ravine, incel.

Don't worry about being called and incel they call everybody and their mom that. If my dad started insulting me in public that would be the end of our relationship though.

>because it's free money
I don't think you understand how this works

fuck off, incel. nobody wants to be friends with racists and nazis. you should kill yourself if you're one.

I am shook at how angry it has made people

Life's not fair. Deal with it.

I was too fucking dumb to realize a woman was interested in me twice. Another time she thought I was some brooding dark emo/scene soul when in fact my brooding darkness was because I was dealing with my father having early onset dementia and was depressed about that and other teenage angst so as soon as she realized I was legit dark and not subculture dark she went on her own way.

I honestly don't get how one can be both a misogynist and an incel. How can you cope with
>AARGH I HATE WOMEN FUCK WOMEN DUMB ROASTIES REEE
>why don't they love me ;___; tfw no gf it hurts bros bladerunner.jpg
do they have no self awareness? Maybe they hate you because you're a misanthropic asshole

¿¿¿¿¿
You have sex. Ah, wait, you can't with a mutilated dick and ingrown hair-ridden neo"vagina"

>nobody wants to be friends with racists and nazis
*unless they are hot/rich/famous enough

i can tell by your posting style that you're a woman

pls be my gf

>she has to be white and a virgin and no tattoos or piercings and etc etc

Who has said that and meant it

me

just go fuck a hooker

WHO IS THIS

Unironically based

>I honestly don't get how one can be both a misogynist and an incel.
The same way you can be a misogynist and a womanizer. Hating women has nothing to do with whether or not you're often in a position to fuck them.

Pretty sure you're just being retarded.

Shamu

>do you want your gf to also be your mommy?
What's the point in having a gf if she won't even make me a tiny sandwich? If I want sex, I'll go to a club and fuck a ho.

>Literally just be yourself.
OHNONONONO

sorry you're not muscular enough for me

billions of /pol/dittors and /r9k/ incels

>muh trannies
RENT FREE

i want to get into morrowind but last time i booted it up and tried to alt-tab, it completely got botched and i had to reset my pc.
Any solutions for this?

>go to the club
Lolno you won't

God, this fucking post is shit on so many levels and it just gets worse the more points you tried to make
You just hand-wave away half the shit when it's all standards men have that women don't.

Here's a hot tip, the next time instead of having your soiboy rant just reply "Then don't have gf if you think it's too much work"
That easy. You don't have to try THIS HARD to cope with the fact you're happy with a shitty deal and someone else isn't Holy christ.

>have a car
>See above
Only really matters in a huge country like America where it's impossible to even buy milk from a store without driving.

use a search engine

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>Literally just be yourself.
>OHNONONONO
No, that actually works.

Steal money from dad and hire an escort

>just be yourself
>also yes, OP's image is indeed correct and you actually have to do all those things

There's a difference between
>hey honey can you make me a sandwich
and
>hey honey can you pay all my bills and wash my clothes and clean up after me and make my appointments and give me rides to places

Whoah user slow down this is getting way to rational for Yea Forums, let alone v.
The thing is, it's really not that crazy to find someone that you can get along with and actually date, but everyone on the incel/mgtow/all women are whores logic are so psychotic and deluded that no woman, or really anyone, would want anything to do with them.
Why the fuck would anyone want to hang out with a violently enranged bitter neck beard who thinks everyone is beneath him except the god king Jordan Beperson? They would have to be suicidal.
All they want is a mom that they can also bang and is also as hot as their anime gf. No one is going to do everything for someone with nothing in return simply because they think they are entitled to it.

Are you enlightened by your intelligence as well, autistoid?

I have to agree if you're a racist and misogynist to your core, none of that will matter. Women are more reasonable human beings than your toxic masculine man. I'm not saying this is an inherent biological trait, but we arrived to this state because of the segregated material conditions men and women have historically been living with. Normal people don't like racists and misogynists. If you feel like you have to "hide your power level" it means your fundamental ideology is flawed.

Yeah it's pretty worthwhile in it's own way. Also I have standards. The woman has to be at least cute too.

I have
I regret it now
Only a little bit though

Play Oblivion.

>banking on no one being willing to waste their time making a blow by blow rebuttal to your post

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Fuck your dad

Worst first post of all time?

>muh
No one claims ownership of you. Grotesque being. Probably disowned by your disappointed parents too. Go add to the 42%

Like people want to partner with a girl who looks nice but is hopeless in any task you can imagine.

its full of anti-nootrients

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not only that but I also broke up with my gf of 2 years because she didn't let me play vidya (enough)

tried, found it after some digging though

Struck a nerve, sweetie? Ya seethe? Ya sizzle? Ya boil?

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No you see the only reason they have to hide is because the jews are preventing mass red pilling. Once you have a trad christian waifu then you slowly red pill her and since she is afraid you will kill her since you basically kidnapped her, she will follow your beliefs.
If the zog didnt rule the entire world except this website, everyone would be openly racist and sexist because its totally natural and sane and is very healthy.

First you insisted we call you a woman and now you're trying to speak for men? Make up your mind already, won't you

> If you feel like you have to "hide your power level" it means your fundamental ideology is flawed.

That's known as an argumentum ad populum. Galileo had to "hide his power level" too.

You mean like most relationships? Yeah, imagine that.

i really felt that image...

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Bills, rides and appointments are my own responsibilities, I'll give you that. The rest - like I said, why have a gf who won't take care of you? What will she do that a club ho won't?

You subvert. I turned my wife from a staunch liberal from Portland into a housewife living with me on ten acres of woods in the south. Just two days ago we were bitching about black people in movie theaters. You don't come out hard, you show them and ease them into it. My last ex before marriage was a super feminist until I dicked her long enough to convince her otherwise.

Subtlety is a lost art on you zoomers.

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Anime, Rom coms, and pressure from deranged people warped mindsets and will continue to do it's damage for at least another generation

This is so true. Every single man I've seen in a relationship looks and behaves like this.

Literally me on the left

>I have
lolno women do not care if the guy is racist or misogynist. In fact, they love misogynist men as long as they are hot enough or have enough money.

based and hehehpilled

Half the standards I hand-wave away because they are fucking basic human things you should be doing anyway. If you don't have a car how are you getting to your job? (Assuming you're american) If you don't have a job what are you doing with your life? How are you affording food and shelter? Are you living with your parents? If you're dependent on your parents, why would someone want to enter a long term relationship with you? That just tells them you'll be dependent on them too.

Some of them are just really stupid too. Oh no, I have to take a shower every day, how am I gonna cope bros? Wait what, I have to be able to hold a conversation? I need to be able to read? What do you mean I can't be a disgusting blob? Where's my state appointed gf bros oh no no nooo

I honestly see how sex has made all of my friends lives more or less miserable and it just makes me happy to be single.
>One friend moves in with girl he hasnt known for to long
>Daddy issues are starting to exhaust him because she actually has panic attacks erry fucking day
>constantly cutting days out with us short after an houd because she gets tired as shit by 8 fucking pm and he needs to help her go to bed
>other friendgirl is a nigger but is currently in jap land as a teacher and never gets any ass while his girl actually gets fucked by horny samurai men
>Viet friend dating a spic who is socially autistic and refuses to ever go out with his friends and constantly holding him back from improving himself
>an example would be he tried getting his driving permit a few weeks ago but she cried and bitch'ed she wanted to do it together with him despite him needing a ride badly and they still havent set up a test date
>friend 1 was complaining yesterday he needs to get away

It truly is bliss really.

What an absolute retard. Who the fuck has a converted trad racist waifu and 10 acres and has the time and desire to post on here. My fucking mocking post of your type is more beleivable than you
see

>tfw horribly crippled with a shitty dead end job and absolutely no prospects in life, yet every girl at work wants to sleep with me and I have a qt psychologist gf because I can carry a conversation and have a good sense of humor
Don't fall for the tricks bros we can all make it.

>mfw friendzoned, but she gives me snacks and sends me funny texts
What is this situation?

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This is pasta

I turned down this one girl after she told me she fucked at least 15 guys

Again being the only responsible person, only income, only person with a car, only person that leaves the house etc. is not the same as "taking care" of someone
Half of the "standards" in the OP image can basically be summed up as "be a functioning human being", the rest are memes incels make up that don't matter at all like lifting weights.

showering is an oppression the femoids place on us because they are too inferior to appreciate the glorious male scrotum musk after 1 month of noclean
tfw no ball sniffing gf

99% of people here have extremely bad personality, women would rather talk to a piece of turd

How do you know it's unironically?

This poster is a 17 year old asian boy living with his parents. I can smell it.

>This entire thread
You had one or two bad experiences with women and it stunted your social growth. Now believing other socially inept bitter people as gospel is destroying your chances of actually getting a healthy relationship. Don't be these people. Be yourself (but don't act like you're God's gift or woeisme) and things fall into place.
The daedric claymore is best weapon too.

ya know what, unironically i am gonna do this

>basic hygiene
Some people have skin disorders and diseases that aren’t related to cleanliness. Some people also have horrific burns and acid scars

Fuck i should have proof read sorry for the shitty spelling.

So basically this image
Pretty ideal as it gets, I won't lie

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Nice argument bitch.

There's no such thing as the friendzone. It's called being an emotional blanket

Its Yea Forums so more likely to be a mexican or indian
tfw no trad street shitting gf

i could probably get a gf if i tried realy hard but idk, i just get bored speaking with most girls

If men were to collectively decide not to fuck women or have anything to do with women in general, do you think women might actually make an effort to be interesting?

dw, still a worthy read. Sad for your nibbas

We don't talk about our problems. Only positive topics.

You can be friends with someone without them using you as an emotional blanket

Well, I agree on the white and no tattoos and piercings parts. Tattoos in particular. Then again, I'm not one to complain how women have too high standards or whatever. I have pretty high standards myself

meaningless question since it's a situation that will never ever happen. There will always be thirsty betas who cross the proverbial picket line and desperate for any female attention no matter how low-tier.

Just look at how "thicc" (read: fat) is in. Literally just betas coping with not being able to do better by convincing themeslves they prefer hambeasts. And then when called on this, their programmed reaction is to scream "NO, YOU'RE JUST A HOMO FOR NOT LIKING THIS HAMBEAST AND HER ROLLS OF BELLY FAT"

>have every single thing on the list
Why tf am I still single?

Oh yeah, because I broke with my girlfriend for being a crazy cunt. HAHAHA

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What the fuck does that have to do with not smelling like shit and getting a hair cut more than once a year?
Im sure you are then going to say
>the femoid roasties hate these people because they arent perfect and these whores only care about looks
I fucking bet my flabby ass that anyone who has a serious condition like this in adulthood is 10000x more mature than you incel retards and knows how to present themself. Average women are like average men, they can look past a fucking disease. Most people have diseases and abnormalities.
Being human is being gross.
This is not the same as being an obese neckbeard who never showers and has piss jugs

THIS THREAD WAS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT MORROWIND

>racists are comparable to Galileo

my gott imagine yourself sitting down one on one with your mother and telling her your views on women and colored folk. what do you think her reaction would be? if your own mother wouldn't put up with any of your shit, what makes you think any other woman would??

>getting a hair cut more than once a year?
oh fuck are you really supposed to do that?

based

Yes, absolutely.

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So women have standard and men don't? Says more about men than women no?

It's called "having a friend", you dolt.

>they can look
Ahahaha, no. They can just jump to guy nr. 15826 in line at any time.

This, just be yourself. When I was young I had a falling out with the love of my life. I swear they were the one, I just couldn't get over it no matter how hard I tried. I tried meeting other people. But three almost-relationships and nothing ever worked out. My heart was practically broken, so I ended up secluding myself and shutting out the world. Sometimes I would live more in my dreams than in the real world. I didn't want to experience it anymore. But then one day I had enough. I broke that cage I was boxing myself in with and wouldn't you know it, "the one" found their way back to me. I didn't care if she just wanted to be friendor foe. She was my moon and star, delivered to me through fire and war. No recall or intervention can work in this place Nerevar, you cannot escape my love. Come, lay down your weapons.

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t. Black girl who can’t get swipes from white boys on tinder. Pretty soon you’ll be criticizing us for not dating men or trannies

>If you don't get girls that way then stop trying
Unironically agree, more people should drop out.

Just get a trim every couple months you repulsive troglodyte. Your hair ends get all fucky and it looks hobo

Legitimately based.

>disorders and diseases
Yeah, then you just have to deal with it. again, that's natural selection. This applies to women just as much as to you. You're not going to date some girl with horrific burns, you might think you will because you played Katawa Shoujo once but you really won't. It's not anything like that. I knew a girl with terrible burns (bad housefire when she was young, her parents died) and she was CONSTANTLY being rejected by guys all the time. Even "approachable" nerdy guys.

>and it looks hobo
but I like that and so does my gf

I know this is b8, but the issue isn't that those things are expected of men. The issue is that there are basically no expectations of women, who are allowed to be as lazy, useless, and pointless and still get far in life simply by virtue a warm hole to Feed & Seed.

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in a hypothetical thought experiment where incels collectivize action to bargain for a better deal, they do it not to overthrow the ruling class, not to expand basic human rights, but simply to have sex

fucking KEK

It blows my mind how so many men think it's scientific fact that men are inherently smarter than women, when that is just not a thing outside the manosphere obsessing over IQ. They cling to the fact men have "genius" IQs more often, even though IQ tests are considered meaningless by most academics, and completely disregard female vs male academic performance because females do so much better on average. Not to mention the fact that women have been getting better and better IQ test results as a whole as time goes on and while men might have more "geniuses", they also have far more idiots.

How vapid do you have to be to think every single female on earth cares only about look? Just because your parents relationship was shit and youve never had a gf because your personality is as repulsive as your smell doesn't mean that every women is like the bitter imagination you have to shift the blame on them instead of yourself.
People can make connections that aren't only physical. You must be miserable if you think love and caring is only a facade for physical attraction

Good post, user.

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This.

Lowering your standards is the worst thing you can do for 2 reasons
>You give the girl who might reject you an unecessary confidence boost when she was uglier then you and you were certain she'd say yes in the process of shooting down your own confidence
>You walk away realizing how pathetic you are for not believening yourself

Remember anons THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BETA FAR FUCKING WORST THEN YOU WHO WILL TAKE THE UGLIEST GIRL IN THE ROOM FROM A DROP OF A HAT. ASK PRETTY GIRLS OUT YOU NEVER KNOW.

no it wasn't and you know that

Are men retarded and gay? They’ll watch allll the YouTube videos and read terrible books by some predatory “alpha” males and lap up every words to learn how to pick up women.
Why not romance novels written by women or fucking shoujo/josei anime? In fact they’ll actively shit on those things. They hate when we express our fantasy and desires, and then calling us complicated and demanding. They really just don’t care about what women want and are just interested in conning us into fucking them??

>he isn't a volcel
laughing online right now

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No not only about looks. Money and fame trump looks. Those are the only things women care about and they have hundreds of guys ready and waiting and can jump ship whenever they get bored with the current guy in line.

I had something very similar happen to me, except in my case I just came to my senses and realized there's no such thing as "the one" and I needed to let go of that bullshit.

Yea Forums is too triggered these days

>implying women know what they want
retard

I feel like I can't get a gf because I don't know how to be a desirable man. Any tips?

yeah except that's not true at all. Men want wives that take care of them like they're children, just read this thread. They're expected to raise children, raise a manchild, take care of his sexual urges, but also have hobbies and a career and not complain about any of this because they're soo lucky to be a woman.
Again, you don't realize what the standards are because you can't see them, they're so ingrained you don't realize they're there. Would you actually marry a girl who's lazy, useless, ugly, and pointless? You'd only do that if you can't do any better, which means you're lazy, useless, ugly, and pointless yourself, and in that case things are working as they should, right?

Seriously just get a tiny bit off, ask for a cleanup trim. It always looks better and you keep the same style.
IQ isnt a fake science. Your forgetting how these same people are also the ones who conveniently forget that jews have higher IQs while saying IQ is the most important fact showing whites are aryan or whatever.
IQ has important correlations, specifically with standard deviations, but retards use it in identity politics because some facebook test they took said they have 135iq and thats like smart and shit.

I know it's a meme to point this out but Vegetarian isn't the same as Vegan. Vegetarian is strictly meat, Vegan is nothing that uses animal byproducts whatsoever.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Ziegel
>gets divorce
Hehe nothin personnel incel

Oh yeah romance novels, let me check
>tall, handsome, /fit/, rich, charismatic alpha Chad
>always all the time
Oh yeah, now I have a totally new perspective.

IQ is 100 average for both men and women by definition, you dumb cunt.

if you want to fathom the level of privilege and complete absence of responsibilities you would have enjoyed had you been born a woman just consider that you're on one of the most misogynistic forums ever hosted by mankind and the thread is split 50/50 with people defending women

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>jst b ur self
that never works

Not him but its true. They really only care about looks.

I'm a 5/10 with no money and no fame and I've had 4 serious relationships so far and about 10 casual hookups without even trying very hard at all. Most of them were out of my league, too, but I have a way with words. Yes, women who are only after looks and money exist, but if you think EVERY woman is like that you're just trying to excuse your own failures with women.

>They really just don’t care about what women want and are just interested in conning us into fucking them?
Would you rather be conned or raped? I'd rather turn to the latter but it's sorta illegal.

have you tried not being fat

These types are hilarious. My favorite is "negging". There's this idea that incels have where somehow they think insulting girls will turn them on. It's like they're so disconnected from the world they forget how basic human emotions work, how people want to be happy and they like people that make them happy. My friend had this one really pathetic stalker who would literally follow her around, "casually" say hello, then insult her. Yeah dude you're gonna get your dick sucked tonight for sure.

I actually got rejected by a girl with burn scars

>be older than her
based

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>shifting the goal posts
And men only care about looks and virginity. You can retardedly generalize anything, it doesnt make it right.
You are such a sad miserable little shit if you think this. To you the world is by the numbers, emotions dont exist, love isnt real, all that matters is your numbers are bigger than chads. Pathetic and delusional.

Men: men have it SO HARD, being a female is truly life on easy mode, remember the male suicide rate and how many men have depression!take men's mental health more seriously!!!
Also men:mocks women with mental health issues

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>you're on one of the most misogynistic forums ever hosted by mankind
most people here don't act the same way in real life, I won't call my black friend a nigger nor will I hate him regardless of what I post on this forum
same goes for women

>jst b ur sel
It does but you have to be a natural Chad.

That's the ideal, but you're naive as fuck if you think that's how things actually play out in the real world. In the real world, you see 2/10 washed up roastie hags matching with men 6/10 and above. The problem is that we, as men, rarely ever actually enforce the standards we desire. Most guys are too scared to even publicly voice a dislike of fat women, of roasties, and so on.

When you can't eat meat it's easy to not eat enough/the right things to get full at mealtime -> eat fatty snacks all day

oh nice it's the blogposting thread

>gay friend calls me to watch some gay-ass movie with a female friend of his
>thinking my bro's doing me a solid and wingmanning me
>find out she's already dating and he actually just wanted company because she's kinda annoying/spoiler]
>she's pretty hot tho
>we fuck around in the mall and I'm making a decent impression, making her laugh, we got to know each other alright and we're breaking that initial awkward phase of meeting somebody
>she's a basic-bitch stacy with a massive chip on her shoulder but she can do hangouts well, she's pretty fun. would friend honestly
>get into the theater
>she asks to sit between us instead of keeping our mutual friend in the middle
>out of nowhere starts going "Your name's user, right? I dated an user before" and does this weird teasing tone and smile
>again, completely out of nowhere
>"Yeah? Was he good?"
>"He was alright, I guess"
>jokingly go "Alright is not enough?"
>she chuckles, "Never"
>silent beat
>fuck it
>"Maybe you can find another user who's enough for 'ya"
>she throws me this weird look like she wasn't comming onto me first
>sarcastly gives this awkward "yeah maybe haha" and turns to my friend
>barely talk to me for the rest of the night

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO THINK WHEN YOU SAY "BTW I DATED SOMEONE LIKE YOU BEFORE :3" AND ASK TO SIT RIGHT BY MY SIDE?
Fucking hell I'll never be ready for dating, the incel mindset is still in my head
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Men are slightly smarter than women on average, but only a little. The difference is almost within the margin of error. But, men have a wider IQ distribution than women, meaning the majority of the absolute least intelligent and the most intelligent members of our species are men. Also, IQ isn't considered meaningless among academics. This is a myth perpetuated by people with low IQs.

Except any woman, yes ANY woman can get a guy in seconds if she wants without doing anything. No matter her looks, her income, her charisma, her intelligence, her partner count, whatever. Women have it so ridiculously easy it's incredible.

>Most guys are too scared to even publicly voice a dislike of fat women, of roasties, and so on.
what universe are you living in? "no fat chicks" is a fucking meme, no one wants to fuck fat people except people with a fat fetish, everyone knows this. as for "roasties", the word slut is probably the most common insult hurled against women after "bitch", so.

i wouldnt want to be a woman, fuck that i like being a dude

>guy looks like a monster movie mask
>she cant handle it and this makes her le evil roastie
Tell me, if your fucking trad waifu gf got burnet like this, had no vagina or ass, has severe pain everyday evrrywhere, cant be touched, needs you to empty her piss and shit bag, that you would do it without any thought of running. Its scary, it takes insane will and love to do that. These two retards got married right before he deployed or engaged or whatever. This means literally nothing.
Nice proof user

Oh hey it's a video game thread! Sure like talking about video games!

You've never seen a vagina without paying and you weigh over 300 pounds

>"Maybe you can find another user who's enough for 'ya"
There was your mistake, shouldn't have said that

first post roastie post

>she's a slut because she won't sleep with me!
Hrrmmm

>Be yourself
Stop fucking saying this shit, it's the absolute worst advice because "being yourself" only works if you being yourself is already desirable, in which case they're not the sort of person asking for advice on this subject to begin with. And a huge part of the problem is that everyone is told to "just b urself" instead of actually being told to assess themselves objectively and look at the faults they have, the things about that that are unattractive, what can be improved, etc.

If me "being myself" is being a lazy fatass neckbeard who doesn't care about appearances and just spends all his time watching moeshit and living off mountain dew and doritos, then "being myself" is the LAST FUCKING THING I SHOULD BE DOING.
The truth is that for the sort of people we're talking about here, the advice they need is to NOT be themselves, that they need to fundamentally change who they are to make themselves more appealing to others.

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You created those standards yourself lmao

I'm a bit tired of people comparing male and female domestic violence as though they were the same thing.

I get that both can be equally as damaging psychologically, but no, your girlfriend hitting you and a man breaking his girlfriend's jaw are not the same thing.

It's important to recognize and denounce domestic violence in all forms but to imply women are just as bad is disgusting when women are being murdered all the time by their partners, and the opposite seldom happens.

This. Females have it incomprehensively easy. Easy mode with cheats doesn't even come close to how easy it is. The pope during the middle ages would be jealous of the easiness.

You'd think so but some women have personality defects so glaring that the only men they attract are the hit-and-quit type. Also these same broken women will still enforce ridiculously high standards then cry about being alone.

bros, give it to me straight

is it possible to get into a healthy relationship in your 30s if you've never had one before?

>hasn't seen that being yourself is the only redpill you need for relationships
Have fun building your own nightmare prison of masks and acts you have to constantly put on to satisfy your need to "make it" while sacrificing your individuality and everything that makes you yourself
Hope you have a good lawyer 'cause divorces are brutal

>"Yeah? Was he good?"
that's where you fucked up, what does this even mean? You have to think of how people will reply to what you say. What is she supposed to say, yeah he had a huge dick he was great, I really miss him? Or no, it was terrible and really traumatic, I don't want to talk about it? There's no good answer here for her. Should've just made a joke. People like people that make them laugh. You thought it was funny that she sat next to you after saying that? Then point it out, make it funny, put her on the spot as a joke.

Thats bullshit. You are delusional.
There are plenty who cant, be it their own inability to ask or seek out, or being fucking ugly, obese, diseased, downs syndrome, whatever.
Any normal person, male or female, can get a date in a few weeks time always. The problem is you arent normal. You have a disgusting personality, and people can smell it miles away.

Plenty of guys settle for fat chicks. You see it all the fucking time. Just look at the "thicc" meme ffs

Honestly I care more about looks than just about any women I've dated or hooked up with. Women are more interested if you're a "powerful" man or not. When I say power, that usually means money, intelligence, ambition, influence or any combination of these.

bro the point is even if she's dating someone don't be an autist and try to fuck her. That's way more trouble than it's worth.

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cringe and roastbeefed

A man's unusable, worthless testicles boil inside their saggy ballsack like poached eggs every time a woman uses a verbal meme he doesn't understand, and his mircobeenis inverts when two separate women have a slightly different stance on a word's authenticity in relation to the speech patterns of women. Truly the superior sex.
#thoughtsandprayers

yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. He's saying men are "afraid to say they don't like roasties" while this entire thread is people REEEing that women are sluts and also won't jump on their dick this second.

Nope. Female not getting a guy is literally impossible. Seriously, impossible.

Yep

but men and women are equal

so my options are to either wear a mask and then eventually crack and go crazy and get royally fucked, or to actually and truly be myself, which is something that women don't find appealing.

Yes, but not on the first try. Know when to quit before it gets really bad, then try again.

nope, ''superficial bullshit'' is what actually matters

you can be as misogynist as you want if you're good looking, women will still be all over you
on the other hand, it doesn't matter how much of a nice guy you are if you're ugly

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You don't need even half of the things in OP to be a functional men in society.

>tfw no longer attracted to conventionally attractive women anymore because it's pointless

men only hate women who do typical male jobs like hard labor for two reasons
>scrots know that's the only thing they're good for, knowing women can do the same will make them truly be worthless
>victim complex. if more and more women start doing the hard jobs they can't use the whole "us poor hard working men!!!" gimmick anymore

the medical field is already filled with women who are doing much better than what males did when men ruled the medical field, now women rule it and it's better than ever and men hate it

let's run this world ladies

baited

I did not understand this post
So stfu roastie

>There are plenty who cant
Literally no. It is 100%, absolutely impossible for women to net being able to get a guy. Anything else is just delusional coping.

The "be yourself" advice is cliche but the reason it's good advice is because you wanna attract people with your actual self, not a fake persona. At least if you're looking for anything serious. If you're just looking to fuck then lying can be a good strategy. But if you're looking to actually have a relationship, you don't wanna base it on lies right from the get go.

>playing the vicitm card
what a woman thing to do

>The oldest of mistakes

How many things on that list did your dad accomplish, Yea Forums?

you realize that in that pic they just didn't read the bio, right? lots of guys do the same thing, I know one incel who'd just swipe right on literally everything just to get one match, he wouldn't even look at the picture, just swipe swipe swipe. He was joking how he should make a machine to do it for him but really he wasn't joking.

5-6

If yourself isnt appealing then reflect and change or accept yourself. You cant blame others for who you are and you cant just hate yourself and accept others to love you

very few, however my dad existed in a drastically different environment to the one i exist in so i don't see why you would bring up

And? They still have it easy mode. You are proving the point. Even with all the issues, they still have it easy. Issues which would make it impossible for men.

Ok, then try to be the best version of yourself.

based, I did the same after she told me she has a fwb

THIS PASTA IS GETTING STALE

Which is just a tautology

I sure hope this is the case. I've been a NEET for the majority of my life, but this year I'm trying to turn it around. I don't consider myself an incel but I guess I kind of qualify because I would like to have sex and be in a relationship, but I blame myself and I don't externalize it. To an unhealthy extent. I withdrew from the outside world because isolation was the only life I knew from a young age.

I'm trying to change that. I want to be independant. I want to get my GED, maybe go back to school and potentially get my life on track in my 30s. But it just feels impossible, I always feel like it's too late. My conscious tells me to give up even though I don't want to.

I want to be independent as much as I want to have a relationship to share life with someone. But I feel like I'm heading towards a cutoff point.

Negative. I’m debating if it’s even possible at 24

reeeeeeeeeee only women can be sluts its impossible for me because Im a virgin because you sluts only like chad for his muscles reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>Any normal person, male or female, can get a date in a few weeks time always
tell me more about that

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I know a girl who is borderline autistic and she can't make a guy stick around even if she pays for everything. Granted, she ONLY talks to guys who are attractive and already have a whole bunch of side chicks already but this is something all women do knowingly or not. Fact is women only want men that other women want and there's not enough men like that to go around.

yes which is why the person tells them directly during conversation and confirms that they read it
they still don't care

I stan every single female killer no exceptions. Aileen Wuornos is a hero, as far as I'm concerned. So is Valerie Solanas, her only mistake was that she didn't get a clear enough shot.
Aileen Wuornos was treated like shit for long enough that she snapped, and even then she only killed people how deserved to die. But men? They mostly kill defenseless children and animals because they are cowards.

18% of women are liars

>she ONLY talks to guys who are attractive and already have a whole bunch of side chicks
DING DING DING
How retarded are you? The very fact that she still can get guys proves the point of how easy females have it. It also proves that females are only interested in the top 10% of men.

Like, right now? Thanks!

Yes but I'm fairly sure they were joking about wanting to date me in hindsight,

i never understood these pictures, men are just as or even more superficial than women are

I dropped out of college and spent years being a NEET without any concrete goals in life. Then I decided to pick up programming and became a self-taught developer. I just started working my very first real job 2 weeks ago and things are looking up. There's always time to turn things around, my guy. Especially in this modern age when you can just teach yourself stuff on the internet for free and then get paid for your knowledge.

>women make men worthless
>they can't find any good men and stay alone into old age
Something tells me feminists didn't really think this one through. Women are generally attracted to men who are above them, how would making all men lesser help women?

>people replying to pasta
newfags are a mistake

cope

I don't know if you have also noticed this, but a lot of men's speech is structured like wish fulfillment fanfiction. They always come across as short circuited autists trying to convince themselves of something that even they don't believe. I don't know how to put this into words better, but it's usually a desperate barrage of unsubstantiated masturbatory claims, like a stream of consciousness from someone desperate to self-soothe after an unsavory realization.

Not sure if you've ever seen the absolute assburgers that is captioned porn, but it's a good example. Male philosophy (which obviously includes religious texts) reads very similar. It has a distinct panicky/autosuggestive tone.

It has nothing to do with your age but rather how women are raised/educated nowadays that will make it very hard for any man to get into a healthy relationship

but but, /r9k/ said... they said! They said, there's, there's a cock carousel, the cock carousel! And they're all riding it, especially that one girl I liked who rejected me! And and, and all the chads are on it, those successful outgoing, charismatic and strong strawmen I really hate yet am also superior too somehow. Also niggers. These stats must be false my stormfront memes are right bros

Yes, she was ugly

If /r9k/ and Yea Forums got merged no one would notice.

i'd say dilate, but you trannies always die early

>men are just as or even more superficial than women are
Yet any landwhale runs around with good looking guys, while the reverse only occures in old couples who are already married for 20 years or where the man is rich. Yeah, men sure are superficial dawg.

>this thread

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There are people in the modern world who are fasting on purpose or undereating because of depression, but it doesn't negate the fact that we need to eat to survive and much of our psyche is fundamentally built around pursuit of resources. There are introverts and even schizoid people, but it's undeniable that humans have evolved to cooperate and stay in close-knit groups. Cats are small prey predators, but they will often prefer to chase laser pointers. This is not to explain the reasoning of every individual human being, but rather to contextualize human tendencies at large. Scrots in general find it hard to deviate from their instinctive behaviors because a) testosterone impairs impulse control and b) they expect to be coddled and served, which is unfortunately still enabled by most women (once again because women are maternal, even the childless by choice ones). Most humans by definition are a product of archaic behaviors like this. Everyone's male ancestor has raped and pillaged, there is no way around that.

Even if a scrot's behavior doesn't follow his initial evolutionary directive fully, it's still a direct consequence of it. Many migtoes have "renounced" reproduction, but it's self admittedly a defense mechanism. One that they wouldn't need to employ if their psychology wasn't built around their reproductive purpose in the first place.

>this whole fucking thread
no wonder you retards are virgins when you think that women are different species
go talk to your mother

how funny you are > looks > fame > money

I know, I'm a retard and it just felt right, I dunno.
I legitimely think I try to make up for my own shyness by forcing myself to be forward (and it only works for 50% of the time) but fucking hell what was I thinking

In my defense I did ask that jokingly. Like "oh really?, cool, was he good?". I even thought it was alright because she smiled after I said that
>What is she supposed to say, yeah he had a huge dick he was great, I really miss him?
Not outside of the question, she casually spoke about banging her bf on her new couch and minutes later talked about being thirsty for her bf's friend. Dick size was a even funny discussion we had that night, I asked her if she would prefer a long and skinny one or small and thick one, my gay friend chimmed in with his toughts as well, we had a good laugh

But yeah your make a good point, my question was pretty intrusive and your way would have been better.

Yep, you're right.
Again, incel mindset.
I just thought she was a ho, alright?

ALSO I FUCKED UP THE SPOILER AAAAAAAAAAAA

I suppose. I'm trying to have faith, even though it is hard. I have a lot of catching up to do though, because I was taken out of school before grade 4 to be "homeschooled".

Thanks for your story though, user. It makes it a little easier for me to think that maybe I can improve.

There is and every woman does. Here's a tip: Women lie. A lot. Even on anonymous surveys.

user, its not too late. Your not even old. You have to stop the self loathing and doubt and make progress towards your goals.
If you allow yourself to become bitter like incels itt, and fuel it with your own self hate, all you will do is wittle away. How can you expect someone to respect you if you don't respect yourself?
Its not an easy thing to pull yourself out of the shitter, but it can be done. You can easily raise yourself up, find a job with a livable pay that isnt soul crushing, find someone who loves you as much as you love them, learn to like yourself. You can do all of that if you don't give in to the desire to give up, blame others, and self loathe.
There are people who have lived alone until 50s, 60s eveb, out of fear of being killed for being gay, who then found another person and married after it was legalized.
You aren't under threat of violence and you are young. You can totally do it user, and the power to do it is in you alone.

Yes. We were childhood friends, she was super into me, and I learned that she liked me when I was around 16 years old or so. Thing is, we had very little in common, and I was an awkward vidya weeb loser, so I was convinced that it wouldn't work out and I turned her down.

I ended up meeting up with her a few years later and took her on a few dates. The third date was probably one of the most embarrassing things that I've ever experienced in my life, so after an awkward kiss and awkward hand holding, we pretty much mutually ghosted each other and never spoke again.

Turns out that I was right, and we had nothing in common at all. Incels like don't realize that, while looks can help you get short-term relationships and one-night stands, a girl's personality and skills are super important to a long-term relationship, just how it is for men.

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yes she was fat, fat women are fucking disgusting and have the worst personalities

True, though I would say humor alone isn't enough to get a woman to like you, but neither is any of those other factors in isolation.

Martin Luther King was notorious for being verbally and emotionally abusive to his wife when he'd call home. He was also known for chasing light-skinned and white women while on the road (he saw anyone darker as disgusting). The motives of the men within the movement is a prime example of males being motivated towards finding new holes to stick their dicks in w/o getting killed (so they say).

I wish I could cite the person, but there was a speech in the 70s from a male civil rights leader. His biggest lament? That men weren't doing nearly as much as the women within the movement. This part isn't shocking to Pinkpill but ofc his motive was "men needing to take their place and lead the women as kings" or some bullshit and not "you're being fucking lazy and need to pull your load alongside the women." And I won't get into how thirsty the Black Panther dudes were.

I could bring up a lot of things regarding the movement and dumb horny scrotes. Being able to fuck white women is usually the first thing that will be cited if you look at firsthand accounts of men from the movement. For women, being able to live in peace and care for their families were theirs. There have been several accounts where men complied like cowards while women were ready to stand up for themselves. The men were sheep and wanted to be accepted by the society that despised them; the women had nothing to lose and wanted to live as normal unbothered humans.

Male activists and their inability to keep their dick out of a movement could be made into a drinking game. They're burdensome, if not cannon fodder.

Unironically a war. There is simply no other way than to rebuild from 0.

Yes. I turned down a sex offering from a female co-worker/friend who was average. I'm not going to spit myself in the eye and accept pity sex, even as a 27 year old kissless, hugless virgin. Not to mention she already had a guy, which doubles its disgusting nature and its suspicious for ulterior motives.

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>natural selection
k so trannies are literal nazis. got it.
also i do have a gf, so get fucked

The science is wrong bros it has to be! There really is a chad epidemic there has to be, it's them that's stealing all the women it's them IT CAN'T BE MY FAULT I'M A VIRGIN IT CAN'T BE

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That's part of the reason why there's such a growing disparity these days. Women naturally want to "date up" to a man who has more status/wealth than they do, but at the same time they want equal status/wealth. These two ideas don't really function together, and the result is you have a ton of "career women" becoming self-imposed forever-alone catladies. I work in a relatively high-status environment, and I see this all the time. Every woman making 100k thinks she deserves a man making at least double that. But of course there aren't enough men like that for them, especially because guys who are actually like that don't give a shit about Ms. Career Lady and just pursue prime pussy instead.
The end result is many of these women "holding out for mr right" until they're washed up hags in their mid 30s and beyond, and it just starts getting really cringey watching how desperate they get after that.

>Everyone's male ancestor has raped and pillaged, there is no way around that.
So has every female's btw.

>unsourced infographs
>the average man is the "tinder chad"
>the average woman is the tinder thot
>using tinder, an app exclusively used just to fuck, as the epitome of human relationships
get your head out of your ass, kid. most people form their long term relationships through school and work and hobbies

>trying to start a commune
>everyone else would just starve as this black hole gulfs down anything even close to food in seconds
>starve
Did she mean to start up communism instead?

I saw it on sale on Steam for $5.
Ends on the 30th.
I think it may actually be the cheapest it has ever been because every sale I'd check it out and it would be more than that and I'd say no.
It is a game from 2002 that looks like crap and looks like it plays like crap.

But people don't shut up about it.
It has aspects that more games should have.

I'm real conflicted on it.
Much like a lot of isometric games I think I like learning about it than I would playing it.
I draw a line in the sand where people talk about stat calculation rather than actual skill involved at playing a game.

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Scrots are intensely ashamed of what they are. When they're alone with themselves and without any female significant other/family member to scapegoat and project on, the shame starts eating them (once again, because they didn't evolve to have healthier coping mechanisms, blaming everything but yourself is what you need to do to be an effective sperm wagon). Their deficits are not only sexual, they're (as a consequence) psychological too. Many of them report this "after porn icky feeling" or "wtf did I just masturbate to" sentiments and it's that exact onset of shame they experience after acting on their objectively disgusting nature. Once the boner retardation wears off, shreds of cognition begin sparking through their hollow craniums. A painful millisecond of sanity is instantly extinguished with the only cope they know - blame mommy.

I've mentioned this before, but this is why they will never fuck off to mingle with their sexbots and why they'll never be content with prostitution/sex slavery, no matter how much they advocate for them. These things lack the fundamental ability to provide therapy to scrots. The scrot knows that the sexbot he designed, no matter how advanced, was manufactured to parrot his delusions. That a prostitute is only doing this because she's getting paid, that a sex slave is only cooperating because it's a choice between life and death. It's what makes narcissists impossible to satisfy no matter how much you enable them, they crave for you to genuinely see them the way they see themselves as opposed to playing along because you're forced to. And even if your view of them genuinely aligns with their view of themselves, they will never believe you, because that view is by definition a lie, a false self. This is partially why men have recently shifted from girlfriend experience prostitutes to sugar babies, it temporarily provides a somewhat better immersion.

Sorry user, homeschooling sucks. My parents did a number on me. The struggle never goes away but you can overcome it to the point of independence and even find some happiness. You will never succeed though if you give up.

>If you don't have a car how are you getting to your job? (Assuming you're american) If you don't have a job what are you doing with your life? How are you affording food and shelter? Are you living with your parents? If you're dependent on your parents, why would someone want to enter a long term relationship with you? That just tells them you'll be dependent on them too.
Women don't need any of these things though (bar lack of a vehicle to do grocery shopping), they can get away with being a no talent, no employment stay at home leech for a guy because they have a wet hole that moisturises dicks.
I can't believe that went over your head, christ you're one dopey cunt.

That sounds an awful lot like feminist cat ladies to me... only there’s no scary sounding DSM 5 name for them

Being able to doubt yourself and think introspectively about these things is a sign of empathy and intelligence. you're on the right track user

If you had a better father you wouldn't be typing here.