It's coming, right bros?

Play on a hitbox

The game will unironically live or die by X-Men and Psylocke.

they better just do a straight recreation of the costumes if they did, there is no fucking reason to hire artists to redesign iconic costumes, its a waste of time and money

You're actually right.

If there's a poor roster again, the game will flop just like Infinite did. One of the main reasons Smash Ultimate is so financially successful is just the roster.

If they don't cave on it after MUA3 has celebrated the X-Men then Capcom are Marvel's bitch and have no say. No way the dev team doesn't want Psyclocke when Team Ninja got to bring her back.

They should use the ultimate alliance models.
They look perfect for a fighting game.

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This. After MUA3, and how good all of the Marvel characters looked in that game, and the hype around Psylocke alone got everyone on Yea Forums and other gaming sites to lose their shit, they'd be retarded if Psylocke wasn't in.

they won't capcom are not very friendly with koei tecmo

besides I really want comic accurate costumes if we get a mvc4

Pretty sure Marvel/disney has the final say on the actual character models being used.
Some of the in game models also kinda look like they where taken from MVCI and just reworked to fit the games art-stile.

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Marvel/Disney cant just tell Koei Tecmo that they can use their character models on an entirely different game by a different company.... if you're referring to Gamora looking similar its because they're likely just making the models based on Marvel/Disney's design specifications / model sheets.

not really based on a model sheet, its dumb what marvel does. They give them pics from the comics of certain costumes but then lets the devs just redesign them how they see fit, like spider man in mua3 was changed because who ever designed him wanted him more like his design in the movies

Rosterfag here

>Capcom:
Ryu (SF)
Chun-Li
Blanka (He's never in the VS games)
Sakura
Cammy
Dictator
Haggar
Gene
Captain Commando
Strider Hiryu
Jin Saotome
Viewtiful Joe
SonSon
Hunter (MH)
Linn Kurosawa
Ryu (BOF 3)
Hayato (SG)
June (SG)
Mega Man (Classic)
Roll Caskett
Zero (MMZ)
Edward Falcon (PS)
Rouge (PS)
Jill Valentine (S.T.A.R.S.)
Leon S. Kennedy (RE4)
Batsu
Tiffany
Akira
Morrigan
Demitri
Felicia
Dante

>Marvel:
Wolverine
Cyclops
Gambit
Psylocke
Magneto
Spider-Man
Venom
Green Goblin (616)
Captain America
Thor
Wasp
Hulk
Dr. Strange
Red She-Hulk
Thanos
Daredevil
Iron Man
Human Torch
Dr. Doom
Silver Surfer
Rocket Racoon
Nova
Ghost Rider
Deadpool
Punisher
Blink
Sentry
Domino
Ms. Marvel

But a majority of them ARE comic accurate. And yes, being accurate to the current comics counts.

no most are not actually, some are based on the comic designs but are not actually the comic designs

Cyclops, wolverine magneto etc all have added seam lines and details not from the comics for no reason, the art team even said they used the comic designs to create their own designs.

>Psylocke
X-Men I get but I see no one ever talk about Psylocke

Oh, so you're just autistic. Carry on.

Then you missed the entire launch of MvC3, MvCI, and MUA3.

>Roll (Caskett)
>no Storm

when the devs clearly state the designs are just inspired by the comics and are not actually the comic costumes, and even fucking have concept art in the game showing they changed the designs I think its safe to say they are not comic accurate

I bet you are one of those retards who think spider man ps4 costumes are comic accurate too

>MvC3, MvCI
I played both of those and had them both on release, I just heard bitching about X-Men in Infinite and Super Skrull and Ghost Rider in MvC3.
Psylocke i barely heard any demand for unless it was MvC2fags refusing to move on.

Just give me UMvC3's full roster with the following cuts:
>Arthur, Firebrand, Trish, Hsien-Ko, and Jill on the Capcom side
>Phoenix, She-Hulk, X23, MODOK, and Taskmaster on the Marvel side
>Add in any of the newcomers/vets from Infinite (X, Thanos, Venom, MonHun, etc.) except for Winter Soldier
>Add in Asura from "Asura's Wrath"
>make the roster 62 or 64 characters
>bring the button layout back to LMHS instead of Infinite's dumbass LPHP+LKHK layout
>keep the comic aesthetic of 3, keep the 2v2 aspect of Infinite, with assists

Perfect game. Just don't cut my mans Phoenix Wright, Nemesis or Frank West.

And bring back popular Marvel characters like Cyclops and Psylocke, but still have space for newbies like...idk, Starlord or some shit. I dont deal with comics.

Just add Dr. Octopus and give X a more varied moveset and fix the visual direction. I don't need much

>>Add in Asura from "Asura's Wrath"
This one thing alone makes you my nigga.

If they do make one I just hope it has Phoenix Wright, Gene and Akira Kazama. I'd definitely play those three.

Would they reuse the assets from infinite? I know they tried to "fix" the faces...but from what I saw it still looked kinda off

Marvel can tell them to copy the designs but not use the same models unless they get nintendo and koei involved

I just want Daredevil in. Maybe the Arisen as well.

To be fair Juri is probably the most recognizable post-09 SF character. It's either her or Rashid, although C. Viper was already good enough in MvC3

I would call upon the most powerful of ancient spirits to bring a Marvel 4 into this world with as much SOUL as 2 and 3, no matter the cost. I don't want my favorite series to die like this.

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they have to add classic mega man we do not need x and zero in the same game, we have the x series for that

>The designs here for most are incredibly similar to their comic designs.
>B-but look at that seam line! It SO different! I will not let this stand!
Cry me a river user.

>cutting She Hulk, Arthur, Taskmaster, MODOK
>doesn't bring back Sigma
Not even Asura excuses this.

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disney would probably end up being jews and just getting some company to make avengers vs xmen with how popular it all is now

Eventually. If Marvel and Capcom are still willing to work together, we'll undoubtedly get a new MvC game in a few years, if for no other reason than to let MvCI fade into memory first.

>wanting ANYTHING from modern marvel
>wanting any fighter from modern capcom
>trusting Disney in any capacity whatsoever
You have learned nothing.

It could still be Capcom. CotA and MSH are great games. Satisfy the growing number of fanbases for Marvel characters and still keep the FGC. Plus if it's AvX you can save that title from the awful comic event of the same name.

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They did allow that MSH/CotA/Punisher cabinet to get made so you're probably right.

Reminder that if a MvC4 happens, these are some of your best candidates for Capcom newcomers.
Just a testament on how the company's planning on creating new IPs in the last 10 years has been schizofrenic and borderline mad.
And i say that as someone who wants Asura desperately in a fighting game.

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It'll just be marvel trying to shill their new uninspired phase 97 or whatever were on lineup just like mvc4

>"Hey, look guys, i don't like capeshit either, am i cool yet?"

Capcom has a ton of IPs to pull from that haven't been in Vs yet, Asura is based, and Dark Void man would at least be fun with his jetpack. Also you're forgetting about Nero being a shoe in as well as Dragon's Dogma; The Arisen would be a great character.

Any potential moveset Will can have is basically covered by Nova already, i just can't see him work.
Nero is still part of DMC, i wanted to focus specifically on new IPs. The thing about Dragon's Dogma is that similar to MonHunt there are so many combinations to choose for the Arisen for a moveset that i have no idea what they can pic.

What else is there anyway made recently that hasn't been used? Spyborgs? Zak & Wiki? Ghost Trick?
I'm thinking aside from Asura and maybe Nilin, the newcomers should either be from older titles (like Gene, BoF's Ryu or Batsu) or be other characters from already existing franchises like Nero (that you mentioned), Jack Baker or Franziska von Karma.

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I would create the perfect fucking list for you niggers...

Not playing it if it's not in 2d & the roster is subpar.

Unlike MonHun there is a specific Arisen to pull from. The one on the biz who is the Senescal on your first playthrough. He could be a Fighter with 3 pawns: Warrior, Ranger, Sorcerer. If not that, Daimon exists.

Keep this with the usual grain of sault especially since it comes from the shill king himself Maximilian, but apparently Disney and Capcom are allowing Arcade1UP to print arcade cabinets that include Marvel Super Heroes, X-Men: Children of the Atom and the Capcom Punisher beat 'em up, and this may imply the two companies haven't severed the ties between each other just yet despite Infinite practically dooming the MvC series.

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I just Want Phoenix W, Frank, Leon and Gene to be in the same roster on a game in a series. Also, the return of Ken and Cyclops, with a roster of at least 60 characters.

That's not even a rumor or anything. Max just got the cabinet and connected the dots that both companies needed too okay it.

Why did you remove Frank West

The rumor is more that this implies Disney and Capcom wants to re-release the older titles and possibly do something new if this does fine.

If it goes back to 3v3 it should keep active tagging. Just replace the stone button with a second tag.

Power Rangers has 3v3 with assists and active tag and while it's low budget it works fine. Granted it has guys like Cl0ckwerk as gameplay designers.

>even if it does get made Ryu won't be as fun as he was in TvC

capcom needs to stop listening to the mouse then problems will be solved

>Elena in a Hyper fighter
I'm a fan of her in 3S.
>Juri
By far the most popular SF newcomer since the 90s.
>6 Darkstalkers (no bad choices but that's a fucking lot)
I agree but I just wanted to match the same number of X-men.
>Maki in a Hyper fighter
I love Final Fight and I think it'd be cool to see her again.
>Emma Frost
She's got a lot of moveset potential and I feel like she's the best X-men addition since the Claremont era.
>Electro
I'm just a fan of this c-lister.
>Susan Storm of all the F4 members instead of just K'lrt agan
Before the Captain Marvel push, she was basically Marvel's Wonder Woman.
>Elektra
She'd basically be like Psylocke. Plus originally she was going to be playable in MvC3.

>6 darkstalkers
Morrigan, Felicia, Pyron, Demitri, Hsien-ko, and Hutzil.
Easy choice.

never ever again

Why TvC Ryu? UMvC3 Ryu had all the extra cool shit like Denjin Mode and all those hadouken variants. Even Marvel 1 Ryu got to turn into Ken and Akuma. Was there just something great about Airdash Ryu? I main Alex/Saki and PTX so I didn't use him much.

Ryu in TvC just felt really good to play, very slick and smooth. That could be down more to TvC than just Ryu himself, but he just felt fun. UMvC3 Ryu had some really cool gimmicks though

Demitri, Donovan, BB Hood, Talbain, Jedah, & Pyron.

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I know that aside from the main three you have to be realistic, Morrigan, Felicia, and Hsien Ko are almost a guarantee compared to BB Hood or Donovan. Jedah and Demitri finally got their due in PxZ though.

Hsien-Ko barely got in over Talbain for 3 so she's not a lock. Also I have a suspicion that Demitri will be a Hero in TEPPEN in the future since he has almost no cards appearances outside of getting grabbed by Viktor in one.

No Shuma no buy

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I think it more of Psylocke is depicted as a ninja again rather than being just plain absent. The outrage of when she turned back to white and ugly again meant there was a slim chance of seeing our sexy British ninja. With a nip developer it shows that Japan knows what worldwide fans what.
Pic some what related. It's what Nu-Marvel currently thinks what fans want.

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Is that Psylocke x Blob?

I hope they add in Classic Mega Man with his 11 gear system into the game over shitty X. I don't even really have anything against X except they made him so lame in Infinite that I'd rather they do something else.

>worldwide fans want
Durr. And this is what the world wants.

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There's a 50/50 chance he'll make it concerning history.

Capcom had to beg for him for 3.

Considering there are strong implications he's the villain of the second Dr. Strange movie and he's a beloved veteran, it's pretty much a given.

Sometimes MCU does good. It's how we got Dormammu.

Yes.
Betsy is now a chubby chaser
but The Blob never got to do every fat weebs dream and cure the yellow fever

He better still turn into a giant robot

I wonder how the MCU crowd would have reacted if UMvC3 newcomers were announced after the first GotG movie.
I still remember the butthurt like it was yesterday for things like pic related not being a veteran like Cable.

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Which is most likely between SF VI, SF V season x, Darkstalkers, and Mahvel, Yea Forums?

The fact that the best selling line right now is Immortal Hulk goes to show the absolute state the Marvel comic inudstry is in.

SFV's last chunk of content is basically confirmed.

UMVC3 roster was fucking perfect,they just need to add the infinite characters to that and you have the perfect roster

Based Max

>SFV's final content out after EVO
>SFVI teaser trailer at CapCup coming out early next gen
>Capcom test waters with a Marvel Collection (Everything up till MVC2) and shows it off at CapCup just like SF30th a couple of years ago
>Capcom does that sales bullshit they did with Darkstalkers to determine if MVC4 should happen

This is the order of events in which Capcom will do shit.

I think it depends if we got MCU designs over UMvC3.

>No one liked MvCI because it looks like shit despite the fact that it plays fine
>Expecting a MvC sequel

Serious fucking doubt. You won't see another MvC probably years from now. Maybe a decade later I would roughly say.

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How would anyone feel if they went with 4v4 like what they were considering for a potential MvC game?

>No one liked MvCI because it looks like shit despite the fact that it plays fine
And because the roster, the soundtrack and the story were also underwhelming to say the least

The roster? Ok, I agree to that. Soundtrack and story? Actually giving a shit about a story in a fighting game.

Why should Disney waste their time with Capcom characters? They clearly treated Infinite as an advertisement for their movies so replacing the Capcom characters means more advertisement space.

>thinking frank west is going anywhere after they brought him back from the depths of tvc with ultimate

I'll give you roster and music, and as things like Smash Ultimate prooved, you get a shitton of people just by having a huge roster, no idea why they wanted to start with a pool even smaller than vanilla 3 and build from there.
The story is a mess, but it starts getting on the right track with its second half and has a neat final boss. It's just a victim like every other aspects of Infinite; hell, Ultimate Alliance 3 story seems the one Infinite was supposed to have.

I really fucking hope sigma will be in MvC4
>awesome villain finally gets to be playable
>hes in what will go down as one of the most mocked fighting games in history.
>If they dont make an mvc4 this will be his entire legacy as a playable character.

>Actually giving a shit about a story in a fighting game

this type of comment worked better when they didn't expect you to give a shit. They tried to market MvCI with a story mode demo with CG cutscenes and voice acting and that shit was awful.

I hope they bring back Black Panther and make his moveset better.

>give him a projectile where he throws Vibranium daggers while doing a flip or something for extra mobility, the catch being that the daggers disappear after a short distance
>buff his damage
>give him more normals and/or specials that are cool-looking
>give him super moves that are actually cool-looking and give more functionality
>a counter super where he releases a shockwave if hit

Klaw as a zoner-type character would be cool too.

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He's the most fun character in the entire series. 3 is my favorite fighting game but Sigma is more fun than anybody on that game, even Nemesis, who is also more fun in Infinite than in 3. Those two kept my playing twice as long as I would have.

If it is coming, can we at least see Nero replace Spencer? I don't even know how Spencer got back into the roster of MVCI

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It was Combofiend's one request, but to get him in he had to take the brunt of the function meme. Now he's at Marvel Games, so he'd probably still have a hand in MvC. Nero is a lock either way.

thats a shitty idea

It would be crime to not have Nero, Asura, Ms. Marvel and some X-men looking at how requested those characters are

This level of desperation is just sad.

Only Asura has a chance, who the fuck are these literal who's?

There is 0 fucking way there's a MvC4 getting announced at EVO but goddammit if I dont want to blindly hope for it.

MvC wont come back
instead we get X-men VS Street Figther 2

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The MC of the ironically named Remember Me, the first game by the Life is Strange people, and the MC of Dark Void, the main new western IP from them in the really 10s, even though an 8 bit demake joke spinoff was better than the actual game.

2 is still the best game in the series

>remember me
now im just laughing about forgetting this

>implying we're not getting Street Fighter X Virtua Fighter

So is there still any modding scene for UMvC3? I've been meaning to check out that EX edition, but idk if I want to mess around with it much if nobody is playing it. But even then, a simple mod toning down x factor could have potential (or even retooling it like sparking blast in DBFZ or Baroque in TvC).

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I would love this, Spencer function with zips and swinging, but also Nero's abilities.

>Virtua Fighter
even SFxDOA has a bigger chance of happening
goddamnit Sega

I expected Rocket to sound high pitched and cartoonish
Then I saw his trailer and I was hooked
Been meaning to read Dan Abnett's Cosmic Marvel run

I wish other Marvel vidyas and cartoon kept Greg Ellis as Rocket's VA, he was really fitting.
It's especially jarring in Ultimate Alliance 3 when he's voiced by Nolan North and there's no inflation in the delivery whatsoever.

I thought Psylocke was an X-Men?

You know what to come to think of it

Vidya voice acting is fucking trash. They just reuse all of the circlejerking VA friends like all the time and you can tell who's who. I wish the cast was more diverse.

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>AM2 has been confined doing Vocaloid and arcade waifu games

It's not fucking fair.

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capcom seems to have made a deal with the devil where they traded the fighting game prowess of SFIV and MVC3 for good singleplayer games again. both infinite and SFV blow, so I dont think ill touch a fighter from them again. marvel is also a corrupted franchise because of all this movie shit, disney is definitely part of infinite sucking ass

I think just about everyone wants Nero in.

Mag-fuckin-Neto

>That deathglare
Ryu has the right idea. Nothing good has ever come from those damn muties.

>F Champ live streamed last night with an Infinite dev kit, looks like 61 characters and 18 stages were planned. Maybe that rumor about characters like Green Goblin, Lady, Gill, Starlord, etc was right.

Seems to me sacrificing MvCi was a necessity for MvC to be great again.

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Is it worth learning MvC3 in 2019? I went into training mode the other day and practiced some Dante stuff. Fuck, I suck, I couldn't even chain a combo from cr. l.

>''this post has been submitted by Sentinel Unit 3664''

unless you have a local scene playing it, not really

>Lady
Here's hoping they add my boy as well.

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>She-Hulk
Can't happen. She made a promise with Deadpool for MvC4.
>Taskmaster
That's fucked up.

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My fucking kyodai.

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You'd have to be a fucking dumb kid to believe this

I just want to hear his crazy voice lines again.
>I'LL END YOUR LIFE
>FROM ALPHA TO OMEGA

Nah, Marvel under Disney is too much of a prick

what went wrong

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>be able to equip up to 4 arms in any order at the character select screen
>each arm has a super that breaks it (like in DMC5)
>each arm has an invincible wakeup that breaks it as well
>arms like Gerbera give an airdash and a projectile reflect
>revving mechanic for Red Queen in a fucking fighting game
Nero could be the most batshit insane character since Dante in MvC3

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It's real you fags
twitch.tv/videos/456697615?t=02h41m36s

Would be cool but too much for a single character, they would just go with buster, though the rev mechaninc would be very possible

Nah, that kind of shit happens all the time. Look at all the rereleased albums of bands that remained broken up, or rereleases of movies that have long since been irrelevant. 1up went out and bought the license to make the cabinets themself, doesnt mean Disney has any interests in mvc

You just gonna ignore the part where he says the game is fucking dead and at best we have to hope that capcom and marvel can get along again?

disney didn't want capcom to have a majority of the characters and didn't want them to make capcom characters look better than marvels. Game play was okay kinda but it had problems (every combo did the same fucking damage no matter what unless you do a stone surge combo, weird balance choices, active switch and what ever the tag out of combo thing was called was obnoxious), and it was ugly as shit with bad music.

Could've been okay but capcom tried to force the esports shit with some retarded as tournament format and dropped it so all the players dropped it cause they wanted money and didn't really care for the game.

I'm not watching this faggot browse shit for 30 minutes, fuck off. There was never going to be 60 characters you dumb kid.

>shitty presentation in general
>graphics and textures to resemble a realistic art style that Capcom clearly had no budget for
>characters like X and Zero in the same shot as Nemesis and Chris look out of place
>UI was an uninspired bore
>MCU wanking led to boring and no-energy themes for the Marvel characters
>Capcom songs were somewhat decent, but all had this dance/techno flavor to them
>soundtrack as a whole was inferior to every game before it
>story mode was cringy and utter dogshit
>voice direction was nowhere near as strong as UMvC3's, and it even changed the godlike voices for Dormammu and Ghost Rider from UMvC3
>boring stages

And worst of all:
>roster was smaller, had terrible compromises for returning characters, and cut out more popular ones from UMvC3 like Vergil, Wesker, Amaterasu, Phoenix Wright, and the X-Men for weaker ones like Spencer, Arthur, Firebrand, and Chris Redfield.
>DLC characters that should've been in the game from the start

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>too much for a single character
I don't ever believe in that phrase after seeing Dante's movelist in MvC3

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Yeah because another rushed game is really what we need, especially when their fighting game division is still being shuck up and they can't even produce SFV content. Capcom releases a few good games so magically anything they put out will be good. Never mind that Marvel meddling like f champ described won't let up in the slightest.

I get people care about marvel a lot, but I am amazed how quick capcom fans run back to get fucked in the ass repeatedly.

Well he is right and he isn't. There are 60 character slots, but that doesn't mean they were ever going to be filled. He also admits to getting DLC early, so if anything was in the pipeline he'd have something to show.

kek'd

UMVC3 Dante my dude.
one of the biggest movelist in 2D fighters

If you unironically want Spencer to be kept in then you have shitty taste

This. Nero can easily have Exceed and most of the Breakers in a moveset. I don't know if a loadout would be possible, but you could fit special moves with every Buster in there if you use Dante's double tap system, while having a command grab that uses either Buster Arm or Devil Bringer based on the strength of the button pressed (or maybe Bringer for a special grab and Buster Breakage as a Super). If they're feeling creative or ambitious, they could even implement Bringer Knuckle somehow.

The idea of plinking a button with every hit of your combo to maximize damage would make him the true execution god pick. You'd see guys like Marlinpie pick him up and do insane shit.

If the roster was large enough that all the other necessary choices and cool new picks were in and there was still space, then he'd be fine. He just should be lower priority than Infinite treated him. If not for Combofiend there's no way he'd have returned; his design is from a failed reboot and he got zero games between 3 & Infinite.

>Infinite came out two years ago
>SFV team went quiet a year ago too
>Marvel Games now are pretty hands off, see Spider-man, Iron Man VR and MUA3
It's hardly impossible. Shit, its likely Capcom had work done on more DLC and it never finished, not to mention all those characters they could have ported from 3 and didn't. If a proper MvC4 comes out next year, I think it's got a solid chance of working out and not being rushed.

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>pretty much every Darkstalker has someone who wants them in MvC, as seen in this thread
>but Capcom won't make a Darkstalkers game

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If only capcom grows some balls like Nintendo did with marvel ultimate alliance 3 and tells Disney to fuck off when making the game

I'd prefer if they give us the options to go with 1 stone + 1 partner, 2 stones + no partner, and no stone + 2 partners.

I get the impression that a lot of people at Capcom want to make Darkstalkers, but realize that the budget required to make a GOOD Darkstalkers in the current market would make it huge financial flop. They would literally need to make it knowing it wouldn't make the budget back as a PR move to its core fans and just let the massive pile of money MH World made absorb the loss.

You know Emma is from the ceremony era, right?

Marvel has movie rights to X-Men and F4 and all that entails, and obviously Sony still plays ball on Spidey stuff, and they even teased F4/X-Men in the MCU at Comic-Con. There's no reason to tell them to leave them out in the first place. Ironically the only character that is still in movie rights limbo that would be left out is Namor, who still belongs to Universal for some reason.

>MvC4 might actually happen
Well there goes my Capcom-only Vs game idea. At least Teppen is pretty good.

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>wanting giants
nigga whats wrong with you

Giants were fun, I had a pocket PTX in TvC. You could rebalance them for a new game. Also Daimon is based and it feels right to have an actual mech from Cyberbots playable instead of just Jin (I went with the Super 8 because Devilotte is pretty much the only other character from that game with a fanbase and she was in Puzzle Fighter which was technically a Capcom vs Capcom game).

>getting rid of Chadclops two games in a row
What the fuck were they thinking?

All the characters MVC4 need to add to make people happy are:
From Marvel:
>Cyclops
>Magneto
>Psylocke
>Wolverine
For Capcom:
>Phoenix Wright
>Leon Scott Kennedy
>Frank West or at least Chuck
>Megaman
Thats it, but Capcom is retarded si who knows

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Frank is a lock for whatever vs fighter they do next, considering they still consider Dead Rising a priority and the fact that he out popularized Chuck and Nick.

>trusting capcom with any fighting game IP after mvci

Capcom will not make any new fighting game for at least 3 years. They fired most of the people involved with SF5 and MvC:I

Him and Monster Hunter didn’t deserve this fate... though Monster Hunter should’ve had a male option as a different skin and included more of the armors as alts, and no fucking voice acting, and it would’ve been fine

MvC infinite didnt fail because of no x men. It failed because the roster it did have is the same stale roster that you'd expect from a post-Disney marvel game. Look at how soulless UA3's roster is, and it's basically what Infinites roster is plus some xmen. The charm and obscurity of marvel is forever gone, along with any hopes of a marvel game with soul, mvc included

So? They can just give it to one of their other studios. Them firing sfv and mvci people might mean we'll actually get a good game, not that it's on hiatus

>UA3's roster
>Soulless
It's primarily veterans from the previous games with Kamala, Gwen, Miles, the Guardians, Crystal, and Elsa. Gwen/Crystal/Gamora kinda suck but the rest are fine, and Gwen is only in because Team Ninja had two characters worth of ideas for Peter.

Please just give it to Eighting again with Niitsuma in the Producer's chair. They made TvC & Marvel 3, they know how to make a fucking Vs game. Do you know how much good will the reveal trailer would have for "from the team that brought you Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3?"

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I would honestly replace Trish with V. He'd definitely work like a puppet character

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>Infinite came out two years ago
Yeah, and if you don't have selective hearing f champ mentions development was a mess. Ending with Capcom and Marvel not on good terms and needing to sort stuff out. So take that off your time as they sort their shit out and decide where to go next. Which might not even be a good one. You are honestly like a battered house wife.

>Marvel Games now are pretty hands off
Which goes against what f champ said. I'm more likely to believe a guy saying fuck it here is the true story than Marvel PR.

>SFV team went quiet a year ago too
Yeah cause Ono has directly said there is a update coming at EVO. Plus they were working on stuff all of last year, so that is even less time.

Trish is a personal choice, because I'd want her reworked to be more like her DMC4SE self. I really don't like Marvel 3 Trish, but 4SE Trish is my favorite of the five characters to play as. Plus Marvel Trish is actually her best look in any game.

If she were to stay the same as Marvel 3 Trish, I'd drop her for Lady or V without hesitation. Maybe I'll do that anyway, since I don't really imply that in the image.

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Why do you want a new Darkstalkers? 99.9% chance you're going to hate it and shitpost about it all the way until launch where your shitposting efforts will go into overdrive once reviews hit.

His fighting style is literally a less flashy and agile version of Strider's, it's perfectly doable.

This very thread is about wanting a new Marvel game, when the last Marvel game was universally hated.

Fuck MVC3, fuck them for doing stupid shit like their lobby system only to go LOL HERE IS THE REAL GAME 6 months later.

Yeah but no one really expects that much from marvel players. It is bullying the kid with ADHD, they'll defend a lot long as it isn't in game.

Strider's robot animals are a lot less complex than Griffon & Shadow, but it's funny that I never realized that they were the same types of animals before. V would need to work like Carl Clover on overdrive because of having two puppets at once; I would almost think his button layout would need to dedicate a button to Griffon and a button to Shadow. Assuming Marvel 3's button layout of LMHS:
>L is V; simple cane swipes
>M is Griffon; long-range attacks, able to chain because they're quick projectiles or swoops
>H is Shadow; large claw and tail swipes
>S can be any of them; s.S is Shadow's launcher, but V twirls his cane for j.S and QCF+S would be Royal Fork
>Nightmare would be a Level 3 install of sorts, where you ride on him via Promotion and replace your L buttons with Nightmare's attacks while still controlling Griffon & Shadow
>If Griffon or Shadow lose their life they need to revive on a cooldown, which removes their attacks from your movelist (the revive would be faster than in DMC5 to be balanced)
I don't know if it would end up working well but that would have to be it to be accurate.

At that point it might be easier to say fuck it and add Lady instead, since V won't really appear in another game again and he's technically Vergil anyway. Just give Vergil a V costume where Yamato is the cane or something (better than having both Dante & Vergil's Marvel 3 costumes be Sparda instead of giving Vergil something different like Nelo Angelo or Gilver).

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MvC3 was good and was well recieved. MvCI got shat on and most people attributed that to Marvel mandates and MCU circlejerking which FChamp confirmed. An MvC4 would imply a return to form. No one really had a problem with I's gameplay, just its God awful representations and functions.
All other Capcom fighting games attempts though gets universally shit on by casuals and pros. No one liked IV, no one liked SFxT and no one liked V.

>No one liked IV
It got enough updates to become a very good game by the end. USFIV is great. E.Ryu, Yun, & Elena are annoying but it's nowhere near as bad as the state of Third Strike's balance or the bullshit in Alpha 3 with custom combo.

If they're making a 4 then they better add in the fucking Fantastic Four.

>no wesker

The only F4 member I actually want is Ben but Marvel has this weird autistic rule where you need to have all four or none of them and I don't want them taking up four slots unless the roster is massive. Keep it to Doom & K'lrt.

This. Super Skrull was a very ingenious way of having the F4 cake and eat it too.

Alternatively, do like Rocket and Groot and go with duos. Ben/Johnny and Reed/Sue gives you a chance to go crazy while still giving some good development and NOT cut character slots.

To think their first thought to get around it was to have Hammond Human Torch instead of Johnny, but then he murdered the framerate and we got K'lrt instead. Charlie Adler was a fantastic casting for him too, his voice is ideal for "alien that can speak English fluently".

He's not the villain in Strange 2, Nightmare will be the main bad guy, but he could still show up or be teased for strange 3 so he still has a shot.

Soundtrack is shit though, and they marketed the fuck out of the story
I think a huge problem with fighting games nowadays is that people expect a big story mode filled with cutscenes thanks to devs like netherrealm, even if the story mode is nothing but fights agains bots over and over again with some cuscenes in between and a final boss.

I want OG Spencer as the the main spencer, if it's reboot spencer again i'll be upset they didn't just put Nero in, if they were going to spit at the Bionic Commando franchise again.

If they ever do another Bionic Commando, they should just retcon reboot Spencer into his own character apart from Nathan "Rad" Spencer. Maybe his first name is actually Spencer, to differentiate. Plus you get co-op that way.

And miles because they had 3 characters worth of ideas for spidey?
Or all of the movie Guardians of the galaxy including Drax and Gamora, the most boring picks possible?

Its a soulless roster, not to mention the graphics and extra content (lack thereof), like all those cool alternate costumes.

There's a lot of things Capcom had to beg for considering the stupidity of the mouse. It's in part why MvCI turned out so bad.

Miles has his own powers that differentiate him outside of the suit and web-swinging, and he starred in the best Spider-Man movie Drax is cool but that might be because I think Batista is cool. The roster has few surprises and it sorely misses Ant-Man, Vision, and She-Hulk, but with all the content being released in the future including characters like Moon Knight, Morbius, the F4 & Doom, various cool X-Men picks since a lot of the must-haves are either in the base roster or being put out for free next month. Plus, you can tell there were characters that Team Ninja really wanted to have; Psylocke, Elektra, Venom (Japan fucking loves Venom), Elsa, etc.

I don't even own the game right now because I'd rather wait for it to be a little cheaper and have some of the free updates already be out. I have very few issues with the roster as long as they get to putting in Ant-Man and She-Hulk (Juggernaut in the X-Men pack would also be sick).

It's a shame since something I would be looking forward to so much just happened to be cursed with being tied to Infinite.

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>X was pushed really hard in Infinite
>All three Mega Man characters were from MMX, including having the villain be half-Sigma
>They even use the Dr. Light AI from MMX in the Story
>They even have X fight a Sigma Virus-corrupted Zero while a remix of X vs Zero from X5 plays, and at the end of the game have X fire a massive weapon powered by a bunch of shit from the rest of the cast to kill Ultron Sigma
>It was all hollow because X's moveset was shit, Sigma was DLC despite being the main villain, and Zero was once again Top-Tier (although not the absolute best)
X should've take the hold-button Buster from Zero. They gave Zero new shit too, so why not?

>Plus, you can tell there were characters that Team Ninja really wanted to have; Psylocke, Elektra, Venom (Japan fucking loves Venom), Elsa, etc.
I'm still genuinely surprised Elsa is there honestly but very happy. It's so funny to see normalfags go "who?"

If they start pushing Nextwave characters and we get a movie, I'm going to be ecstatic.

>MUA3 is made by Japs
No wonder the base roster is a little bland and generic

Also no costumes, just shitty reskins ffs MUA1 had like 5 for each

>>>/reddit/

I hear rumours that the game actually played decently. Is it true?

Miles has camouflage and venom strike, that is not enough to make a new, interesting character let alone justifying ANOTHER spiderman when the superior peter has to exist

Drax is not cool, and it probably is because you're an Yea Forumserger fag.

You're right that I'm mostly into Drax because of Batista but I don't use Yea Forums at all. Why the fuck would I go there to discuss wrestling?

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>have to hear Yuri fucking Lowenthal in everything
I think he's the worst because his voice is so incredibly distinctive you always, ALWAYS know it's him and it's really goddamn annoying hearing him everywhere

I don't even hate the guy himself, I'm sure he's nice and all, it's just that literally every single character he voices is no longer that character, they're just Yuri Lowenthal

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>newcomers have to be new characters
>MVCI Capcom newcomers were X, Sigma, Hunter, and fucking Jedah
As shameful as the roster was, the Capcom newcomers were pretty bulletproof and were characters from throughout Capcom's history that people actually wanted.

I want X to get another chance.
Even if Zero doesn't make it in I just want X to get his chance to be in a well received one.

If that can't happen then maybe we can get Megaman EXE?
He could do some interesting thigns depending on how they handle chips, souls etc.

Drop Zero and give X the Z-saber along with the Falcon or Blade Armor.
DO IT CAPCOM.

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It would be quite an irony after UMvC3 had him relegated to a skin for Zero.

Would be nice if they went back to sprites.
Everything felt more bombastic in 2d.

What's really weird is Human Torch was actually worked on for 3, but his flames reportedly were way too much of a stain and that a lot of Skrull's moves are leftover attacks from Torch. Who knows how accurate this is, especially given Dormammu and Ghost Rider, but I wouldn't be surprised if that all 4 have to be in thing was just PR bullshit. Shit, Torch and Thing were playable in Marvel Nemesis but Sue and Reed weren't.

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This. X deserves Marvel 3 Zero's buster mechanics. He'd be less broken because the rest of the moves he could cancel into and out of it would be projectiles instead of teleports and huge lightning trails with a ton of hitstun. Have him bust out the Saber for a super.

Only thing about Infinite that didn't fuck X was his alts. He got both Command Mission and that one modern figure design and they both look great; the robots, Jedah, and Nemesis are the only characters in that game that manage to look good (and Nemesis is a fucking ugly monster so if anything Infinite's art style made him look better).

No, add Vile so there's three of them.

>Human Torch was actually worked on for 3, but his flames reportedly were way too much of a stain and that a lot of Skrull's moves are leftover attacks from Torch.
As far as I know they were using Hammond Torch to get around the F4 rule but since he was on full-body flames nonstop on top of having flame effects on every single move he was actually hurting the framerate unlike the flaming head guys. I could definitely see both of Skrull's Level 1's being ported directly from Torch.

IIRC the rule about the F4 wasn't always there, and I'm not sure when they started enforcing it or to what extent. I do know that K'lrt was Marvel's suggestion to get all the F4's powers into one character slot, unlike some of the other weirdo picks like Shuma & MODOK who Capcom practically begged for.

I wonder which side chose X-23 & Taskmaster.

X-23 was 100% a marvel pick, they were trying to push her at the time with a solo and thought they could bank off the Wolverine connection.

Taskmaster, who knows. It was said he was there cause of Dark Reign, but Green Goblin would have made significantly more sense if that was really the logic behind that pick.

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Hope they have some oddballs and unexpected ones showing up.
While I'm rooting for X and Nero they're relatively mainstream.
These games give a chance to shine a light on some lost, less known or even dead series.

4 characters would be fully appropriate to round out the DMC roster. They don't need anyone else after.

Dude said to bring back the new comers and vets from Infinite which would include Sigma though?
Yeah Capcom really is into the releasing collections to test viability of another entry these days. Like with those Mega Man collections.
MvC3 had everyone work okay enough next to each other.
Did the cell shading help compensate for the disjointed styles?
They're still pushing X at least from what it seems.
He's one of the starter roster in their mobile card game, they're making an X mobile game.
Hope it's all just to generate some hype for X9.

Yeah, X is being pushed as a top Capcom character right now. X9 is probably being made by the MM11 team, but Teppen and MMX DiVE were both started like 2 years ago.

Teppen is good though, X with Charge Shot is one of the better Heroes in the game. Black/Green Spike Launch Nergigante is the meta though.

MvC3 unironically looked the best and perfectly pulled off the comic book theme the game was going for. If they do the RE engine or UE I can't see a repeat of that, and it's a shame that they pulled the plug on MT framework despite being such a fantastic engine.

MH World still runs on MT Framework. They may still use it for games that don't need realism. There's a decent chance of Dragon's Dogma 2 being on MT if it's being made.

If they didn't push the story mode so hard no one would actually give a shit. But the fact is that they poured a lot of resources into that fucking thing and then proceeded to market the shit out of it, so yes, I'll give a shit about this part of the game where resources that could've been better spent elsewhere were wasted on a piece of shit story.

>472103327
>Before MvC3 came out all MT framework games, except SFV, had fairly 'realistic' graphics and were highly detailed
Nah, Capcom can pull a comic book/anime styled game with the RE engine, it's all a matter of not going for photorealism. Also, Capcom's still using MT Framework dum-dum, Megaman 11 and Monster Hunter World run on that engine.

Shit, I'm retarded, ended up erasing a ">" meant for

Yeah, no. Maybe after SF6. Cya in 5 years.

the only mvci newcomer he was cutting was winter soldier

Honestly that's still bad because Bucky was fun. Cut Widow, she was boring. Even Marvel 3 Jill was better. Spencer can go and we can have Bucky & Nero as the metal arm boys that came into their own under Cap/Dante's influence.

I just want Gene and Asura

But Nero's supposed to bond with Gene on the whole super powered replacement arm thing.

>472105773
Can we get Captain Commando back? Viper can stay out.

I suppose it would be flat out impossible to have them every go the Super Smash Bros Ultimate Route and have EVERYONE return?

I don't get the meme of Viper & CapCom being the same function. Burn Kick is literally the extent of their similarities gameplay-wise. Their only real connection was that weird cryptic announcement of a Captain Commando psuedo-sequel with Viper as a playable character in the outfit that she got for her Marvel 3 alt costume that was literally never mentioned again. I swear I'm the only person that remembers this shit.

I figured a Capcom & a Marvel character with similarities bonding would be the point but there's no reason not to have Gene there. If it's 3v3 then you could run all of them in a theme team.

Could you link me to when this happened? That announcement must have been super obscure.

No Rightclops, no buy.

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There was an official blog that broke down the references of every costume that was being put out, and when Viper's was from nothing there was this weird mention of how she'll be wearing it in an upcoming game that will feature Captain Commando.

Checking the MvC wiki it was apparently designed by Tatsuya Yoshikawa for the game and it was in the "Villains" pack. Maybe I'm fucking crazy but I swear I didn't dream this.

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I miss old rogue, my first vidya crush

This was the image from the blog but I can't find the blog. I haven't seen the source for it since I saw it like eight years ago but I really do remember it.

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Capcom and Marvel are releasing, or rather authorizing, an Arcade OneUp machine of Marvel Super Heroes/X-men Children of the Atom and the Punisher Beat-em-up. They're still playing nice together, but not enough for a new game.. yet...

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I know he may have been a boring character but wasn't he in all the Marvel fighting games going way back to Children of the Atom? It'd be like if SFIV and SFV didn't have Chun-li. I need my beams man.

That's a really good cabinet with some great games. But yeah, I expect a more complete collection of their sprite-based fighting games (CotA/MSH/XMvsSF/MSHvsSF/MvC1/MvC2) like the SF 30th Collection if anything. I'll fucking get it for MSH mostly, but MvC1&2 are also nice, especially if there's Training & Online.

Cyclops wasn't in MSH or MvC1. The only character that was in every single Marvel game Capcom made was Wolverine until Infinite kept out X-Men. Ryu & Chun have been in every single Vs game though.

Wow even Wolverine was left out of Infinite? No wonder that game was such a shit show.

Fuck MAHVEL.

Give me another CVS or TVC.

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>TvC
Dead and never happening again.

NEW VERSUS GAME TIER LIST:
>MAXIMUM Hype Tier
TvC2 w/ Speed Racer & Samurai Pizza Cats
Project X Zone but as a fighting game
CvS3 by SNK (aka SvC2)
CvS3 directed by Itsuno
>Super Hype Tier
Capcom vs Capcom
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3.5 with Infinite characters retrofit into it
Tekken X Street Fighter
>Pretty Hype Tier
CvS3 by Capcom but not Itsuno
MvC4
A completely new company Vs Capcom
>Half of people Hype as FUCK, other half underwhelmed Tier
Avengers vs X-Men or some other new all-Marvel Capcom fighter
>I Never Asked For This Tier
MvC Infinite update
SFxT2
Street Fighter X Mega Man 2

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Did you know Karin almost made her debut in MSH vs SF?

I don't like Karin but that would've been an improvement since that game was an even bigger sprite dump than MvC2; the only new character was Norimaro and he was JP Exclusive and an even bigger joke character than Dan.

It's just gonna be SF vs KoF

>New CVS
>x factor groove, vtrigger groove, max mode groove, focus attack/ultra groove, Rage/issen groove

no thanks

I'm interested in the return of one character and one character only, the rest can be whatever.

That is assuming that any of this is real.

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Grooves for SF3/IV/V & KOFXIII/XIV/SamSho would be cool though. They wouldn't need to be 1:1 to the originals (P-Groove sure as hell wasn't accurate to 3S in CvS2) so you could rebalance them.

The real busted shit would be a Marvel Infinite Groove with Active Tag.

I thought we'd see an ammo belt or something under there considering how many weapons she's packing.

Why can't we just have the MvC2 roster + UMVC3 roster + some new introductions or characters that were never in any MvC game? Though 3's roster was solid, 2 had some awesome lesser-known characters such as Ruby Heart, Jin, Hayato, Captain Commando, etc.

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I hope they get the feel of it down as well as they did with MvC3. That game controls fucking perfectly.

Grooves weren't the issue. Even If S groove is garbo, it should work more like 98UM extra, but the real issue is balance and the fact that SNK characters don't play well with CAPCOM mechanics.

I left out active tag and sfxt for the same reason unless its a tag game it wouldn't make sense
the problem was more that capcom characters played too well with KOF mechanics

SVC run on KOF engine and still have CAPCOM bias, but roster works much better despite shit like Geese breaking the game in half.

Also most of time people picked capcom grooves.

MVC2 had 56 playable characters.
The roster got that big because of sprite recycling IIRC.
While UMVC3 didn't bring them all back in terms of new comers to the series the base game and it brought in 33 new faces.
So that's asking for at least 89 characters with those two.
I guess you can remove one of the wolverines.
Now if you bring in the MvC:I playable new comers that's another 10 characters.
So you'd have about 99 characters in there + whatever new stuff you want to add.

Even Smash Ultimate counting all the echoes has only got 82 playable characters.

It's a pipe dream at absolute best.

Can't wait for Genefags to get btfo a third time

a guy with a long coat comes and protects Dante of Vergils last shot with a Dragon Kick
What? Do you need me to hold your hand or something? You know, for being a Demon Hunter you are quite a sissy!
then this plays youtube.com/watch?v=AEpGs3STXMY
G: Damn I took a long ass nap...
O: It's the only thing you do, you lazy ass now get back to business!
G: Agh, why there's it every women I know is trying me to make me her puppet...
it's happening boiz

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DOCTOR DOOM VS VERGIL 3!!!!!

>Avengers vs X-Men
I mean at this point, everyone is an Avenger that isn't a mutant. Even the entire Fantastic Four has been an Avenger by now and that includes the guest FF members like She-hulk, Black Panther and Storm.

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It's sad really that showing up in a fighting game is basically their only hope at some new content featuring him.

Has a fighting game appearance in one of these things ever revived a franchise even?

>CvS3 by SNK (aka SvC2)
It has potential but SvC Chaos was pretty shitty.

This time will happen you sick fuck!

>dev kit
Its just a mod for the pc version to unlock the dev menu

Psylocke and Captain Commando or BURST

>almost made it into MvC3
>was dropped as they though JAPANESE fans wouldn't recognize him and only westerners wanted him
Still fucking mad.

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FFS just add more characters to Ultimate 3, it was already perfect.

we suffer the same pain my man

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Is that Ryu?

They are using MCU characters, everyone in MUA3 is tied to a Tv or upcoming movie.

Elsa for example might appear in either Blade or Doctor Strange sequel.

>Imagine having Dante with DSD and all the new weapons
>Nero with Exceed and Arms plus ghost arms
>Vergil faster than ever
>X with falcon, Blade and ultimate armors, Zero and Axl with boss forms from the X fames.
>Asura with rage mechanic, the more he fights the more he evolves and stronger he gets, can get to ultimate form with 6 buff arms.

Shit, don't give me hope guys

>FOOT FOOT FOOT FOOT DIVE
>SOUL SOUL SOUL FIS-SOUL SOUL S-SOUL FIST
>I NEED MORE POWER
>I CAN'T CONTROL IT
>IT'S OVER! SOGENMU

>Perfect

Nah

yes it's Ryu Hayabusa

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>in the best Spider-Man
Good? yes
Best? No.

Bitch nigger Spider-Man and Ms Muslim are shitty characters that only some people at Yea Forums like and they are their entire fanbase.

you forgot
>Gene kicking people's balls
you fuck

Maybe one day, just one day, someone will explain to me why they don't like Miles without mentioning his race.

But it certainly won't happen on Yea Forums

Reminder that when adding new characters for UMvC3 there was over 150 female characters people suggested and that it basically turned the team into waifufags rioting for their pick tobe added so in the end they decided to add only male characters.

>Bitch nigger Spider-Man
Spiderverse made me like him.

>Top 5 best characters in the game are the most common competitively
You saw like 25 other characters in Top 32-8 on a regular basis and another 10-12 at a decent rate because of successful character specialists, including Justin Wong himself who kept Storm relevant the entire life of the game and was by far the best Akuma.

Don't judge a game for its shitty competitive scene. The guy from Japan that came in swinging with Viewtiful Joe, Rocket and Frank West annihilated all those samefags using Sentinel and Hoenix.

I had a great laugh, especially because it happened when replacing Dante or Wesker for Iron Man was seen as "a scene changing moment".

Idk why you guys all want like twelve billion character in one game
That's both impossible to balance and impossible to learn, as a player. MVCi's roster size was actually pretty perfect for a 2v2 fighter
>but 2 and 3 had 50+ characters
2 had like 12 characters and 3 had maybe 20-ish that were actually usable
The rest were all joke-tier garbage

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I did remenber him and a lot more, just got lazy lol
He would be capcom's "deadpool" character.
Mr. X would be replacing nemesis with some super punching and clawing action as well.

Problem is that MvCi had a bunch of filler characters that nobody wanted.

I agree, I think 24-32 is a good size, maybe 48 in something like a CvS2 game.

Pretty much. It'd just be a catchy title for a fighting game but then you could put in everybody popular anyway.
I trust the modern SNK team given that KOFXIV was quite good and the new SamSho is great. SvC was on a KOF engine that wasn't one of the better ones and they did a lot of tracing for Capcom's sprites. I just wonder who would be doing the modeling for CvS3/SvC2.

In the end it would be worth it to get modern Shinkiro SNK art. I feel like he's really improved since Capcom scooped him up post-CvS2.

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Mr. X would be awesome
And Gene would be like a Dante-ish character, they're pretty similar in personality, the difference is that Gene it's a fucking stupid prick, Dante it's just a dumbass.

source?

More than half of 3's roster was viable. It wasn't like 2 where most of the roster was trash, it was that the Top 5 just had really good synergy with one another (Doom made literally every character more effective, Morridoom was incredibly good, Zero & Vergil synergized really well; the only Top 5 characters with bad chemistry were Vergil & Phoenix) which lead to them being really commonly used. Tournament results show 30+ characters had a significant tournament presence during the game's life on top of occasional low-tier heroes with great character knowledge and team synergy doing well.

I would never want to trade Nemesis for Mr. X. Mr. X would absolutely be the kind of character I would main (A mixture of Hulk and that MKX Jason Variation where he can just sort of walk towards you with super armor and grab/punch you) but Nemesis has some of that AND his tentacles/rocket launcher for pokes, zoning, and command grab resets. He's such an interesting hybrid character and a ton of fun.

I'd maybe be okay with Mr. X over Nemesis if Sigma came back, but I think a Mr. X alt for Nemesis would work just fine (stark white skin, different coat, the hat, it works).

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We're lucky power levels mean jack shit during these things.

I'd just hope they'd have Marvel 3 esque endings.
Could have Iron Man give Nero a Devil Breaker, have Asura and Hulk work together on their anger issues, have X meet up with Vision or something.

Just take advantage of the whole crossover nature.

Same here, but that is the deal, he has zero character development in the comics. What you have seen in spider-verse is his entire decade old run in a nutshell, only made relevant thanks to Spider-Man ENTIRE support cast.

That is as far as Miles gets.

You can say Morales doesn't give you a lot of Mileage, hurk hurk hurk!

The issue is that you are dense and probably you won't listen but here it is:

Because it is quite literally a carbon copy of Spider-Man without anything worthwhile except for Gante. (now Ned and that was given to Tom Holland Spider-man).

Outside Gante, his support cast does not exists and he borrows / steals everything from Peter making him pale against better Spider-Man (Peter is not even one of the better spider-men at this point).

Then there is the issue where he is given two BS abilities that never become relevant and are so overpowered any fight becomes uninteresting. He can one shot Blackheart, fucking bullshit.

Basically, it is the stereotypical reason why people hate black people. They steal everything and when they are given straight up advantages they never use them.

Okay but in reality the biggest issue is that there has not been a single writer who has made anything interesting with Miles and the character is almost 15 years old.

Meanwhile Superior Spider-man emerged from a shitty run and his 6 month old run is already much more interesting than Miles entire decade old run. Not to mention both Scarlet Spiders are much more interesting than all of them and they are barely even touched.

Kaine practically fights magical cartels in Texas along with the resurrection of an Aztec God but fuck that let's go back with Black Peter...ugh!

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You speak as if they can't just patch them all out while adding new people.

Hope they add my boy

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>Miles has camouflage and venom strike
Correction, He has camo, venom strike, venom blasts and bio-electric webbing.

>You saw like 25 other characters in Top 32-8 on a regular basis
Wishful thinking. Just because people run a top tier shell with one meme character doesn't mean the game is as balanced as it should be.
AgeoJoe, "that guy from Japan," was never the best. He was a good player who played an unorthodox team and was very meticulous about creating his team. Him being a good player doesn't make Viewtiful Joe better than Vergil, and it doesn't make Vergil balanced.

Sentinel was also ass in UMvC3 and Iron Man was never considered a character worth investing time into at any point so I question how much you even know about Marvel

>MvCi had a bunch of filler characters that nobody wanted.

Are we suddenly going to pretend nobody was asking for Sigma, Venom, X, Thanos, and a Monster Hunter rep just because the game sucked?

AgeoJoe/Kusoru didn't prove that his characters were top tier at all, but what he did prove was that UMvC3 was more about team synergy than just spamming top tiers. The problem was that top tiers happened to synergize very well together anyway (Zero May Cry, Morridoom, Doom & Phoenix, RyanLV proved that with a good battery Morrigan/Phoenix was viable and his battery happened to be a Bottom 5 character in Chun-Li for the record).

I loved watching Japanese players in Marvel 3 because they really understood this idea before most American players. Abegen might be my favorite player to watch in the entire game because of his team of "Low Tier" heavies that was perfectly synergized with insanely optimal combos and nigh-inescapable tech chase option selects. Then you had Nemo who built his team like a factory where Nova uses Spencer as a conveyer belt to feed a character to Strange who kills 95% of the time when he can get a consistent Flames Loop setup. It's seeing viable teams made of characters that are in the game's vast mid-tier with peeks of Low-Tier heroism in there that made the meta so fun. Guys like DJHuoshen, Marlinpie, Moons, IHeartJustice, etc. on the American side of things.

He voiced him before in Super Hero Squad.

>Finally get Sigma in Vs game
>He plays exactly as I always wanted and is fun as hell
>MVCI takes a nose dive because of the myriad of issues it had

It fucking sucks, man.

People were asking for Sigma?

He's fucking cool and Ultron Sigma was an awesome if wasted idea but I'm surprised there was clamor for Sigma.

What would the perfect, semi-reasonable amount of MM representation in MvC look like?
I'd go with MMX X, MM Roll or Proto Man, Bass.exe, Tron Bonne, MMZ Zero

The thing with Miles is that he's just Ultimate Peter after the original died.

Fuck I wish I had my autistic ~60+10 DLC roster pic

MM Classic, Zero, Bass EXE, Tron

Just cover your bases with spin offs and shit without going too crazy and having two Zeros or Geo

X, Proto Man, and Aile

>Most Balanced
Roll, X, MMZ Zero, Bass.EXE, Tron
>Personal preference
Roll, X, Sigma, Bass.EXE, Tron
>Easiest for Capcom
X, Zero, Sigma, Tron, MAYBE Roll
>Most BASED
Quint, Dynamo, Fefnir, Quake Woman, Dr. Light (Pachinko)

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>they pulled the plug on MT framework
They still use it but it's starting to show it's age.

He better be in.

FFS its been like 15 years since he was in a actual fighter.

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It's a miracle they even used it for Monster Hunter World

>More of a traditional shoto than even Morrigan
>Doesn't have the secondary fanbase of Morrigan because he's not a Succ with big tiddy and fat ass
>Midnight Bliss is his defining trait and it would either be way too expensive to do right or be done cheaply and disappoint fans, getting negative press from the West either way
He will get into Teppen and that'll be all he gets. It's sort of like a fighting game, more so than the SvC Card Fighters games were.

>Why can't we just have the MvC2 roster
I don't think you realise that you got that Roster mainly because it was easy to do unlike if you wanted it in 3D.
I still don't get how people don't know how shoddily made MvC2 really is, I remember reading that a porting team said the game was basically held together by string and glue

Do you not remember how mad people were that Sigma wasn't base game?

Just because people expected a character because he was an integral part to the story is not the same as people wanting the character because he's popular, and I say this as a fan of the character.

Demon Blast would be great fit for Marvel.

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No way unless they're willing to change his Midnight Bliss. Besides, there are other Darkstalkers characters who hasn't been in a fighting game longer than him.

>Besides, there are other Darkstalkers characters who hasn't been in a fighting game longer than him.
Yeah, but none of them are the fucking protagonist.

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