1st Party: Jak Ratchet Sly Cooper Spike Parappa Sir Daniel Nathan Drake Kratos*** Sackboy Nariko Sweet Tooth Colonel Radec Cole MacGrath + Evil Cole* Toro Kat Emmett Graves Princess Plump (Fat Princess)
3rd Party: Heihachi Raiden Isaac Clarke
Newcomers:
1st Party: Specter (Ape Escape) Alundra (The Adventures of Alundra) Darc (Arc the Lad) The Good Hunter (Bloodborne) Toan (Dark Cloud) The Slayer of Demons (Demon's Souls) Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn) Delsin Rowe + Evil Delsin (Infamous)* Baron Praxis (Jak and Daxter) Robbit (Jumping Flash) Lucas Kellen (Killzone) Maya "Echo" Visari (Killzone) (Colonel Radec Echo)** Knack (Knack) Vahn (Legend of Legaia) Kutaro (Puppeteer) Dr. Nefarious (Ratchet and Clank) Chimera Hybrid (Resistance) Nathan Hale (Resistance) Wander (Shadow of the Colossus) Carmelita Fox (Sly Cooper) Joel (The Last of Us) Ellie (The Last of Us) Dart Feld (The Legend of Dragoon) Rose (The Legend of Dragoon) Tomba (Tomba) Doll Face (Twisted Metal) Rudy (Wild Arms)
3rd Party: Crash (Crash Bandicoot) Dr. Neo Cortex (Crash Bandicoot) Dante (Devil May Cry)*classic Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy) Old Snake (Metal Gear) Spyro the Dragon (Spyro) Ripto (Spyro) Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
* Evil Cole and Evil Delsin both share a slot with their Good counterparts, you select which one you want to play as on the selection screen
**Maya has relatively the same moveset with some animation differences, and she is faster
***Kratos has 2 movesets, a moveset with the Blades of Chaos and a new moveset with the Leviathan Axe
Cut: Donte, Big Daddy, Ecoli, Add: REAL Dante, Klonona, SMT/Persona rep, Dragons Crown rep, Nep, Kiryu, og Lara, Resident Evil rep, SE rep, Crash, Spyro, Snake, Doomguy, Lammy, Carmelita, Raven, Jimmy/Kei/Yumi/Jake/Natalie, Jak/Ratchet reps Change: Spike's design, Sly's art style, Parappa's art style
Michael Brown
Give Sweet Tooth the design from Head On or even something unique Give Parappa characters the ability to either be full 3D or fully flat Give Sackboy the ability to mimick other characters with costumes
Jackson Gutierrez
What will the general public's reaction be if this game gets made?
Lucas Hughes
If it's good, porn
Brayden Reed
Why Baron Praxis? I don't think he really lends off much of a moveset aside from "big angry man in techno armor". It'd work better if we got Ashelin Praxis, a character who actually fought alongside some battles with Jak and has a moveset.
Also if Nefarious gets in, then you can't leave out Captain Qwark. With Kat returning, give her an echo fighter of Raven. And let Chop Chop Master Onion be a fighter
Dominic Sullivan
probably the same "wahh smash clone blahh" or "its not exactly like smash blahhh bad game"
In my other list I have her down, along with other 3rd characters from series, this list was just a shortened version But Praxis has alot they could work with, various Krimzon Guard weaponry, and he always has a sword with him, that he never used until towards the end. So he fills the role of a villain rep, and he could have a creative moveset that can differ from Jak's
Christopher Murphy
Honestly, to hell with all-stars, they should just bring smash to PS4 and xbox.
David Bennett
>Also if Nefarious gets in, then you can't leave out Captain Qwark. With Kat returning, give her an echo fighter of Raven. And let Chop Chop Master Onion be a fighter
all these I have on my longer list, with those exact reasons also have Lammy as a 3rd-ish Parappa rep
like I went a litle crazy with this stuff. I made 2 lists, one for Round 2 and a second for a 3rd game, most of the ones not listed for my Round 2 list are in the 3rd game list
Christopher Edwards
she can just be a skin with new voice lines
Jose Green
Hear me out, Hekseville from Gravity Rush, and the twist mash-up would be Electro and Vulture from Spider-Man PS4 flying through and causing havoc everywhere
Grayson Howard
I will never understand why anyone liked this game. It tried to be smash bros and an actual fighting game and succeeded at neither.
New stages >in order Ape Escape - The Lost Valley Bloodborne - Grand Cathedral Crash Bandicoot - Cortex's Castle Crash Bandicoot - Gladiator Arena Demon's Souls - Boletaria Palace Fat Princess - Black Forest God of War - City of Rhodes God of War - Lake of Nine Gravity Rush - Hekseville Horizon Zero Dawn - Meridian Infamous - New Marais Infamous - Seattle Jak and Daxter - Haven City Jak and Daxter - Percurser Temple Killzone - Vekta City Medievil - The Museum Ratchet and Clank - The Great Clock Ratchet and Clank - Nefarious Space Station Resistance - New York Rogue Galaxy- Zerard Spyro the Dragon - The Dragon Worlds Spyro the Dragon - Winter Tundra Tearaway - Sogport The Legend of Dragoon - Bale The Order - London Tomba - Village of All Beginnings Twisted Metal - Carnival of Carnage Uncharted - Shambhala Uncharted - Atlantis of the Sands Uncharted - Statues of Ganesha
Jumping Flash too and also Wild Arms and Vib Ribbon fuck
Joseph Perez
I wanted to include Vib Ribbon, but I cant possibly see how they would make a moveset for her. She could work better as a stage hazard I think
Jace Russell
A lot of Smash characters had low movesent potential until they went creative It can come to how the moveset fits into the series' personality and spirit however
Nicholas Ramirez
What about Patapon?
Blake Miller
I just want it to play the same but refined, and have Alundra, Ellen or Keats, and Toan, Max, Monica or Jaster, and William-sama.
Michael Rodriguez
what about minigames
Asher Myers
and Justin, Feena or Ryudo.
Nolan Morales
who was at the top of the tier list in the original PSASBR?
Jeremiah Edwards
Dream roster. Max 3 guest (third party) characters per gen, and only one rep per third party franchise, lets imagine sony got crash and spyro in the game in the crash trilogy timed exclusivity deal, so those dont count
Psx Crash Coco Cortex Spyro Hunter Sir Daniel Fortesque Spike The apes Tomba Parappa the rapper Sweet Tooth mitsubishi lancer evolution 3 GSR 1995
Guests Cloud Strife Lara Croft Leon S kennedy
Ps2 Jak and Daxter Adult Jak Ratchet and Clank Doctor Nefarious Sly Cooper Carmelita Fox Rau Utu Ico Wander Kineticlops Gabriel Logan Kratos Buzz
Guests Dante CJ Sora
Ps3 and Psp Nathan Drake Sackboy Joel and Ellie Cole Mcgrath Chimera Colonel Radec Saint Astraea and Garl Vinland Jodie Ellen Keats The Patapon
Guests Ezio Auditore Old Snake Knight Artorias
Ps4 Old Kratos Atreus The Good Hunter Ludwig, the Holy Blade Adult Ellie Chloe and Nadine Aloy Connor Delsin Rowe Sam Porter Spider-Man Kat
Guests Geralt of Rivia 2B Dutch Van der Linde
Special edition exclusive DLC characters Cristiano Ronaldo Fifa Ultimate team card Sekiro
It depended a bit on game mode but best were Kat, Kratos, and Drake with the worst being Sir Dan, Radec and Spike.
Joseph Nguyen
Sir Dan got bumped up to mid tier after the last buff he was given Zeus was worse
Gavin Sullivan
10 per console (5 for PSP, 5 for Vita)
I tried my best but I had to make some cuts to stick to the 10 limit. Only Sony own characters. That means no third parties like Snake, Lara or Cloud. Additionally, I didn't do PS4, because I don't care.
01) Vib Ribbon 02) Heat (Bust a Groove) 03) Parappa 04) Spike 05) Sir Dan 06) Gabe Logan 07) Robbit 08) Arc 09) Dart 10) Ratchet and Clank 11) Jak and Daxter 12) Sly Cooper 13) Kratos 14) Toan 15) Jaster 16) Wanderer 17) Captain Qwark 18) Carmelita 19) Rau Utu 20) Cole McGrath 21) Drake 22) Sully 23) Kutaro 24) Nariko 25) Toby/Kari (Kung Fu Rider) 26) Ellen and Keats 27) Fat Princess Minions (NOT Fat Princess) 28) Colonel Radec 29) Chimera Grunt 30) Slayer of Demons 31) Uberhero 32) LocoRoco 33) Jeanne 34) Talk Man 35) Pursuit Force Cop 36) Kat 37) Iota 38) Soul Sacrifice Rep 39) Criminal (Freedom Wars) 40) Destiny of Spirits rep
Ryder Davis
I had little experience fighting Zeus but I never saw anything from him that made him look that bad. Meanwhile Sir Dan's buffs while nice never really gave him enough to fix his issues, and his grab range was still stubby as hell regardless so it only helped so much.
Liam Morales
Elk would probably be a bitch to fight and a pain to make up moves for. I can already see Elk players running away while hitting me with long range attacks and taunting me as they do it. Endurance would be better.
Josiah Cox
Why do you dumb FAGGOTS keep making these threads. This game won't happen, Killian went on to make other garbage stop making these.
>Spider-Man (Spider-Man) >Sam Fisher (Splinter Cell) They both hang upside down? I dunno.
Camden Barnes
>Did people actually enjoy this beyond concept? This game looks terribly sluggish. yes people did the same wasn't sluggish
Nathan Anderson
he makes that retarded "UHHH" sound after he casts a spell
Grayson Scott
This. Would probably make me laugh more than anger though.
Michael Sanchez
He was big and slow sure but he also had armour and huge damage on pretty much every button along with some actual ranged options and ok supers, so I figured all that should at least carry him to mid. Getting a throw confirm was all well and good but as you say his grab game really sucks and it leaves him really unsafe on top of all his other weaknesses and generally being unsafe unless you do nothing but axe toss, plus just about the entire cast got similar confirms by then.
Austin Nelson
Everything should be 2D Sprites, like MvC2 Here's the ideal roster >Sir Daniel Fortesque >Chris Redfield (Barry Burton and Albert Wesker (human) costumes) >Solid Snake (Old Snake, Raiden and BiBo costumes) >Crash Bandicoot >Spyro >Parappa >Harry Mason >Jak >Ratchet & Clank >Sly Cooper (in his original PS2 style, not that ugly Sly 4 style) >Pyramid Head >Dante (the original) >Nathan Drake >Kratos (the original) >Sackboy >Nariko >Sweet Tooth >Cole >Kat >the Tearaway guy >one of the Resistance ayyyyyyys >Kiryu Kazuma >Fat Princess >Heiachi >Monokuma That's your entire starting roster. The gameplay should be reworked to get rid of that Ultimate meter, just have it so that people die when they are knocked far off to the side. Keep the ultimate meter if you want, but just find another way to do it. If it's successful, 2 DLC packs.
Sebastian Robinson
>leans up against his staff in a wimpy manner >pulls out a piece of Aromatic grass and starts chewing it >Mia appears and she forces him to eat her out There's a couple good ones
Blake Adams
Sir Dan didnt have a grab confirm from what I remember, he had a 1 2 3 lvl 2 confirm and both lvl 1 and 2 were easy confirmed against a wall
I know, I dont think Aromatic grass even has a model ingame
Charles Jenkins
Surprised Monokuma only appeared once so far
Jaxson Perry
The character models in All Star were fucking ugly. I'd rather have spritework done, it worked in MvC2. I just don't trust them like I do Nintendo with their models in Smash.
The last patch gave him them from his upthrow into level 2 or just a sword combo. He could get a lot of really good stage specific shit like that or jump stab/axe into level 1 if they were on a higher platform, but he was too slow to actually force it most of the time so it didn't matter much.
Sebastian Phillips
I blame the studio more than anything. 3D Crossover fighters can look fine. See MvC3. Sony just got a backburner studio to develop their "Smash killer."
Jackson White
Im sorry you have such bad taste
Christian Rivera
Holy fuck. I just realized this game will automatically have a better storymode than Smash because Sony is better at making cutscenes than actual exciting gameplay.
Brayden Barnes
Go play Playstation All Stars again. I have a Platinum for it on the Vita and almost have one on PS3. I know some shit about how ugly those models were.
Adam Jones
Not to mention Sony clearly doesn't care anymore about making actual games or respecting its IPs.
I'll only want a sequel if they get Sakurai on board
William Watson
Reminder that pic related was part of an actual commercial held in Italy where they just stopped random cosplayers in a con dressed like some of the roster characters, asked them to pose for a few seconds each and calling it a day.
Sir Daniel Fortesque man that was not that hard to remember
Jordan Evans
The funny thing about this post is that Zeus has a terrible matchup against Sir Dan because Dan has an easy level 1 confirm against Zeus that's guaranteed.
Jason Smith
>Sir Daniel's grab game was weak, but that didnt matter Absolutely not true in doubles. Sir Dan's grabs were practically kill set ups for his partners as they all lasted a ridiculous amount of time. You can pair him up with anyone and he would be an asset to the team.
2v2 should have been the default format for Playstation All-Stars. Team compositions were more interesting than the boring 1v1 plays. youtu.be/REpO5kMyaQk
Jordan Nguyen
Provided he could hit them, but yeah his throws was extremely good for everyone else, and someone watching his back actually lets him breathe a lot more and utilize his kit.
Aaron Wright
I've never had a problem with his grabs, especially when used in combination with his Air.F Square or Axe to force a knockback. I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that his grabs are hard ti use but it sure as hell never popped up as an issue during my sessions.
t.Level 999 Dan Main with Platinum on PS3 and Vita
Evan Anderson
2V2 was the default, there wasnt 1v1 unless it was a custom match
Isaiah Cruz
>Nobody including the Demi-fiend absolutely shit tier tastes here.
Christian Watson
Sir Dan's ideal range is at the edge of his sword where he can pressure with his range and freely move back for setups with his axe and other tools. His grab range is way shorter than anything he has so even with the knockbacks going for throws puts him in situations that end up far better for his opponents most of the time and for less payoff if he guesses right. He's still forced to go for grabs often but it's really unsafe t. same but lolVita
Logan Hughes
>Demi-fiend this isnt a meme, I actually do not know who this is? are you talking about Jersey Devil?
Angel Wright
Main character from SMT: nocturne.
Xavier Smith
oh, the little devil bear thing with the two-face?
Nolan Hernandez
I agree that his ideal range shouldn't be right next to a player, but grabs aren't as unsafe as you're claiming it to be. Dan does have safe options, especially with his axe out on return. A blind grab will get you punished no matter who you play as. The way the game's meter denial works, grabs must be part of your kit and playstyle, and thankfully Dan does have ways to make that possible without being exposed. As mentioned earlier, in a duo set up, Dan's grabs are crucial to getting kills without having to bother with reading or confirms. None of this matters anyways. The "scene" is dead now that online is dead too. I really wish the Super Arcade tournament series was 2v2 because that was a lot more fun to see on a stream. The 1v1 stream was a mistake and no one got to see the fun side sets we had offline.
Wyatt Jones
It's been a while, but wasn't the default a free for all?
Hunter Thomas
This game's 1v1 had nothing on Smash but damn doubles was kino.
You’re pretty uncreative then, she can change forms and distort things, her ultimate could have been her running through a musical course while the opponents all fail and die.
Post Never Evers >Spiderman >Crono >Neptune >Jack Baker >Leon Kennedy >Big Boss >Borderlands character >SMT or Persona character like Deifiend or Yu Narukami >Soulcalibur character like Ivy, Sigfreid/Nightmare or Voldo >Yoshimitsu
William Gutierrez
I stil remember clearly throwing a guy (with Ratchet) across the whole map into my buddy's Jak lv2, snatching the kill mid air. Shit was cash.
John Hernandez
Had no idea this even existed.
Carter Turner
When I say that, I'm not specifically saying the grab is unsafe, even though it is. It's that he has to forfeit his positioning to attempt one, and afterwards has to rely on his other tools in a poor situation since most of his buttons are bad up close. Of course they're far better in 2v2 but that's because a whole other person fills in the gaps but a grab itself is a read/confirm. It is a damn shame it's dead now though, all these fake rumours of a sequel don't help but it would be nice to actually get one so they can do it right, as it was far better than expected or assumed.
