I want to play this game and i probably will. Although so many people agree that it's a shit game...

XIII-2 is great but unfortunately it isn't worth playing, because it requires you play through XIII. It's dependent on that story.

Most of the game is as linear as a Call of Duty campaign. The combat can get mindnumbing if you rely on auto. The setting and lore are pretty interesting but I couldn't appreciate it until I replayed it. The game expects you to read the in-game lore index to follow along with the story. God tier visuals and music. Overall very stylish but little substance.

I went in with the intention of 100% it and enjoyed it immensely. It goes beyond mash X if you want to 5 star every mission, especially the hunts.

>Overall very stylish but little substance.
In other words, it's a Final Fantasy game.

once you have the combat sorted out it's pretty alright. some stuff works, most doesn't.
like one user said, the soundtrack is really nice.
it's okay/10
t. it was my first FF

The unending push towards making each and every FF iteration different but always in a more action-ey direction has really fucked it over. It always feels so hollow anymore and they always handle their cast horribly wrong. FFXV was really the exclamation point on the amazing garbage that is modern FF.

I recently played Ys VIII, and it really put most of the FF library since playstation to shame with its simple story. Sometimes less is more.

>I want to play this game
that's all you need, who cares about others opinions
even if you end up thinking it's bad, who cares
it's not the end of the world to play a bad game,
sate you curiosity and learn for yourself

Anyone who played FF XII as well can tell how good is it compared with it?
Cause for what it seems it's just 50 hours of linear corridors and dull fights; even though the combat being a highlight it will get repetitive, i don't want to watch the same animations for 50+ hours.

FFXII is twenty times the game XIII has. Better side content, better characters, better world/setting. Only thing worse is the music.

I consider XII a masterpiece
I consider XIII an experimental piece of abstract art
I enjoyed both, played them many times each
you won't find any real consensus

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>I consider XIII an experimental piece of abstract art
Fuck off you fucking retard, it's a bad shonen anime

nice opinion

It really depends on your taste, look at all these people foaming at the mouth at the very mention of the game.
Watch the intro on youtube and if you dont like the story your not gonna like the game is that simple.

XIII's combat is fucking boring despite all the superfluous crap used to make it appear more dynamic. All the spells are unreadable particle garbage and it's an endless cycle of
>endure enemy bullshit until stagger
>wombo combo until it runs out
which is in no way an improvement over the rest of the series.

The fact that buffs and debuffs are actually worthwhile makes it a significant improvement over most of the series.

>Great soundtrack
>Great world
>Great combat system
>The game designers thought that the combat system was more complex than it is, thus the first 20 hours feeling like a tutorial

No one calling out the ESL.

I'm playing through XII right now, i can confirm that XIII has a for more engaging combat system.

You'd think, but it's only because the autosave and battle reload. It allowed devs to put in "tougher" (=crystarium check) encounters where buffs are mandatory instead of strategic.

Buffs aren't mandatory.

I beat it in 30 hours, what the fuck did you need 60 for

People wouldn't even be talking about this game today if it didn't have FF in the title.

I truly think it is one of the worst games ever made.

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Unlikable protagonists, shitty story and hallway level design. Decent music and really good graphics, overall shitty game and not worth your time

Both are shit.

It's pretty decent. Some people's criticisms of it have merit, but overall, 90% of people here who criticize it are just contrarian faggots who have either never played it, played very little of it, or have been poisoned by Yea Forums by being told what they should think of it beforehand.

Ignore people and go play it.

>Buffs and debuffs aren't worthwhile in other Final Fantasy games
What?

>t. hasn't played any Final Fantasy before X
They're not worth your time in random encounters because they pose little to no threat and it's more efficient to just use attacks and most bosses are arbitrarily immune to any sort of debuffs.

I've played them all. They're incredibly useful in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 and 12.

WOOOOOOOOW WHY ISN'T EVERYTHING ABOUT THE SETTING AND BACKSTORY EXPLAINED IN THE PLOT. THEY ACTUALLY MAKE ME READ IT ON MY OWN????? THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!?!?!?!

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If you like final fantasy and jrpgs, worth a playthrough. It's a pretty meh game up until gran pulse though be warned, you have to be willing to put yourself through a fair amount of listening to hope whine and linear walkways.
Trying to level up in gran pulse to be able to beat shit is fun though if you're trying to do it yourself, and the side content is enjoyable enough once you get the fast travel points so you can get to the stones and start them

it's horrible.

It's one of those things where there was kind of a good idea but it was ruined by execution. The battle system is good in theory, but you're playing a bad tutorial for 20 hours and there isn't much content that makes good use of it. Add in a terribly written story that is trying desperately to be the launching point for a new media empire and the game vainly trying to recapture 7's success in shallow ways at every turn (train intro, battle theme based on 7's chord progression and crescendos, giant sphere falling towards planet, cute ancient race girl sacrifice, black comic relief man, etc) and you get a terrible, terrible game.

- The core story is explained poorly while simultaneously repeating itself endlessly because it's aware of this.
- The core story is really bad even when you do understand it.
- The index is annoying to navigate to and poorly organized, as well as rarely telling you much more than what you can already glean from context clues.
- The backstory and lore is barren despite the game taking such pride in it. Fucking 7, 8 and 9 have more complicated, detailed worlds somehow.
- The dialogue is ridiculously bad.
- Your bait is shit.

>4
Eh. 2D 4 is so easy it barely matters.

>battle theme based on 7's chord progression and crescendos

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>Although so many people agree that it's a shit game, here is usally full of contrarians, so, what's the true veredict from Yea Forums about it?

OP, someone here already said it, but most criticisms you see here about FFXIII have merit. The game's linearity is very railroaded. On top of that, the first fifteen hours of the game will feel like a tutorial. I should also throw out there that the post game content is an aggressive waste of time. Although I will say that it's sequel was much better, and I didn't regret playing it at all.

This. I'm not sure why Yea Forums is obsessed with pitting these two against each other. I just happen to hate XV more because of its DLC season.

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It felt like it had 10h railroad tutorial before actual game and said tutorial covered about 80% of the plot.

It really is. It's nowhere near as good, but it's trying to emulate the gist of it. A few 15 tracks try to do something similar, but instead of going over the top they go for a subdued approach. It's weird given most of the other games since Uematsu's departure don't do this.

I couldn't deal with the sequel's presentation and pace. It had good elements, though.

Except the chord progressions are completely different. Stop talking about stuff you have no idea on.

>Based on = same
I'm sure you're going to have a tizzy, but you know exactly what I mean. The similarity in progression and overall structure is more than coincidental, especially given most of the rest of the game's soundtrack is fairly different. It wants to be an Uematsu battle theme with it's own flair but ends up missing what makes his compositions work.
Seriously, if you're gonna sperg go all in. Break it down in depth. We both know the chorus is wildly different from Uematsu's style, but if you think the chord progression is utterly different then actually talk about it.

I'm not going to waste my time giving an in depth analysis to someone who has no idea what they're talking about and is just making stuff up, but the first eight bars of Fighting! are all based over the i and the first eight bars of Blinded by Light are based off a syncopated ostinato of v-II-VII.
>but if you think
Just stop.

I really couldn't get past the "open-world" part with its copypaste missions.

I tried.
I really did.
The game just takes the shit at this point.

>but the first eight bars of Fighting! are all based over the i and the first eight bars of Blinded by Light are based off a syncopated ostinato of v-II-VII.
I knew it, you're getting hung up on the minutiae rather than the more general progression and form of the arrangements. Felt it coming the second you posted a Wojack, should have known better than to assume this was anything more than ego stroking.