What would happen if

...Someone released a first person shooter, set in WW2 from the German perspective. One that humanizes the Germans while trying to accurately depict their triumphs and failures. Treats them like real people. How would people react to a game like that?

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Umm excuse me sweaty not so fast
>youtube.com/watch?v=UCj8llyzfWo

>One that humanizes the Germans
Umm sweetie, Nazis were literally Hitler
Every single one of them were evil

Sniper elite 3 humanized the unwitting participants to your long range Gallagher show if you ever got close enough to over hear or gain intel on them.

>How would people react to a game like that?

un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml
>Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in international armed conflict, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:
>Intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities;
>Intentionally directing attacks against civilian objects, that is, objects which are not military objectives;
>Intentionally directing attacks against personnel, installations, material, units or vehicles involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under the international law of armed conflict;
>Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated;
>Attacking or bombarding, by whatever means, towns, villages, dwellings or buildings which are undefended and which are not military objectives;
>Killing or wounding a combatant who, having laid down his arms or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion;

Wehrmacht is guilty in every of that, and it is not even the individual soldiers - it was the orders from high command. Face it wehraboo, the absolute maximum your precious """not""" nazis will have is proper burials.
Also, go play Panzer General (at least) you filthy FPS pleb.

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what's with the bigger than usual influx of /pol/ recently?

It's saturday/sunday night so they don't have to work for their wagemaster at the morning.

Wolfenstein Youngblood is tanking in sales, which has shills and reset era trannies out in droves, which in turn has drawn /pol/ cross posters and various shitposters and trolls.

Not on my watch goy!

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>Iron Cross = Nazi

WTF?!

>Charter of the United Nations
>Ratified and put into effect after WW2
>Guilty by ex post facto
You might want to change the scope of your argument.

It will never happen because the Holocaust is a religion where the Nazis are the ultimate evil. This is like someone in the dark ages asking "what would happen if someone wrote a book with Satan as the good guy?"

>Someone released a first person shooter, set in WW2 from the German perspective.
Doubt players like killing civilians and commiting warcrimes. Alt right furry trannies will like it tho. On the other hand i would gladly play a good historically accurate ww2 game from soviet perspective without cold war era mutt propaganda.

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I don't know about that, but I would I'd love to play a game where I can play as a Finnish sharp-shooter against the Soviets in the Winter War.

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Tanking US economy causing higher levels of cope

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>ex post facto
Rejected
By
Nuremberg
Tribunal
Tough luck, wehraboo.

Seriously though a Winter War FPS with campaigns on both sides has kino potential. Both sides were poorly prepared for the war, just in different ways. Seeing the massive clusterfucks going on from different perspectives would be sweet. Imagine something like the Battle of Raate Road, first from the soviet perspective where all your vehicles are worth jack shit, people have no idea what they're doing, and the white devils are everywhere. Definitely Objective: Survive or Escape material. Then the same battle from the Finnish side, where you see how little men and guns they really had, having to pull fast hit and runs to make the russians think they're surrounded, with the entire operation being in danger of failing in the case of a single fuckup.

uhm yeah sweetie, all germanic symbols are fascist symbols now sweetie.

The Last Tiger mission in BFV did this and most people seemed to like it. Not sure if a whole game based on the premise would be loved, but if it was done well I don't see why not

What are you talking about? They were nazis and must be punched. Goyim should not learn why war started. Such game would be anti semitic.

Well. Than Americans, Brits and Russians are also guilty.

>Doubt players like killing civilians and commiting warcrimes
>On the other hand i would gladly play a good historically accurate ww2 game from soviet perspective
lol

>. How would people react to a game like that?
LE STOP TRYING TO GLORIFY THE NAZIS is more or less what you would get. To this day I think it would be interesting to play some axis campaigns, and not just because of some edgy "play the gud guys" bullshit but because these are real campaigns that happened and they were real soldiers fighting and dying with the comrades just like the allies were. You don't have to say they're the good guys, you barely need to fucking mention the global politics to just follow the story of a german squad advancing through europe, examine their tactics and weapons because we've already used the M1 garand and thompson to death as primary weapons. Even throw in a mission where you ultimately lose that's fine, it would just be something new and different.
Maybe like 10 years ago you coulda made it happen, make a ww2 campaign with axis characters and missions just to shake it up but it would never fly now

Got any problems with my post wehranigger?

It would be a rather depressing campaign, the entire playthrough would be like Medal of Honor in reverse

>start off with high pace, costly assaults that achieve stunning victories
>midway through the game grinds to a halt
>second half of the campaign is defence and constant retreats
>last segment is a literal "Objective: Survive" mission
>final cutscene is your character as an old man being harassed and bullied by Generation X lefties

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I didn't know about this (skipped BFV) but I'm looking it up now and it looks neat. Sure, more of this kind of stuff would be nice.

That would be awesome to play. I'd buy it.

>final sequence your character has somehow survived the war, come to terms with maybe hitlers ideals weren't the methods but come the end, you just wanted to defend your country and failed, the powers and motives behind it didn't matter anymore
>he's an old man now, dementia creeping in and too frail for anything but watching tv in the nursing home
>some zoomer sends you to court

Yeah, it would be pure kino.

I would fucking kill to play a German campaign doing Operation Mercury or defending at Omaha/Utah beach

Not him but they were literally as bad as the nazis

>G*rmans
>humans

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There have been a lot of /pol/ posts lately because there have been a lot of /leftypol/ posts lately

reddit/resetera/discord/leftypol shills keep spamming false accusations of us all of celebrating sad panda dying and get assblasted when we explain how they're lying to push an agenda and most /pol/ anons lament the loss like everyone else
Same thing happened with KyoAni

nice bait

How about a simulation game where you run a concentration camp?

>2 million nazi civies dead against 15+ dead soviet civilians
>Soviets conducted 0 executions of civilians just to piss off partisans
>no 80% fatality rates in Soviet camps for POWs
>Executions for each and every soldier who commited a warcrime in Soviet Army while Wehrmacht and SS closed eyes on their war criminals and almost encouraged warcrimes
>Nazis literally broke all NAPs with everyone
>Hurr durr soviets were just as bad as nazis because they made poor nazi soldiers to build back what they ruined also they resisted muttland theyre worse than hitler!!!

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>472019465
Bait

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Battlefield V literally does this
youtube.com/watch?v=kbH9lq0Syis

People were warm towards Red Orchestra 2. Most normies just think that playing as the Germans would be cool

Fuck you OP
The Nazi mission was fucking kino
youtube.com/watch?v=NPB8XFtRjOo

>dosn't want to play a game about killing civilians and commiting warcrimes
>wants to play a game from the soviet perspective
>he doesn't know

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>it's another nazi apologist

you ever actually researched any of the shit you post or was it all from /pol/ infographs?

>>Soviets conducted 0 executions of civilians just to piss off partisans
>>no 80% fatality rates in Soviet camps for POWs
>>Executions for each and every soldier who commited a warcrime in Soviet Army while Wehrmacht and SS closed eyes on their war criminals and almost encouraged warcrimes

>call others wehraniggers
>unironically deny red army war crimes

ironic

Battlefield V is shit

Seething alt right furry tranny

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>What if Warcraft 3 existed

Read my post once again retard
Prove me wrong then but all you can is to fart greentext against facts

Hilarious.

the communists were worse than the nazis

Based reddit spacing tranny with no reading comprehension

yep read it. have sex. absolutely no evidence or sources (as per usual). now please, fuck off back to /pol/

>He actually said have sex
How far into coping are you?

you uninformed fags keep acting like /pol/ is stormfront and like a nazi perspective game couldn't be interesting or cool

> but WHAT ABOUT
Western democracies committed quite a lot of war crimes as well, from Bengal to Tokyo, but this doesn't mean that what the Nazis did is comparable to... well, anything.

>Fleeing before the advancing Red Army, large numbers of the inhabitants of the German provinces of East Prussia, Silesia, and Pomerania died during the evacuations, some from cold and starvation, some during combat operations. A significant percentage of this death toll, however, occurred when evacuation columns encountered units of the Red Army. Civilians were run over by tanks, shot, or otherwise murdered. Women and young girls were raped and left to die.

>Although mass executions of civilians by the Red Army were seldom publicly reported, there is a known incident in Treuenbrietzen, where at least 88 male inhabitants were rounded up and shot on 1 May 1945. The incident took place after a victory celebration in which numerous girls from Treuenbrietzen were raped and a Red Army lieutenant-colonel was shot by an unknown assailant. Some sources claim that as many as 1,000 civilians may have been executed during the incident.[notes 1][100][101]

b-but muh honorably red army...!

I hate europe and europeans so this just makes me laugh

>people start humanizing communists
What the fuck is wrong with you all? It was a fucking triumph for mankind when the soviet union croaked and communism largely ceased to exist. No longer people need to live in fear of getting fucking nuked daily.

I'm sure if you comb history, you will find somebody who commited atrocities comparable to the Nazis. They were evil degenerate fuckers but they are not literally Satan as in incomparable to anything.

Dumb nazi tranny
>literally quoting post war propaganda with trillions raped 6 years old girls
Might as well link some CNN/BBC Anna Shekelstein intervews about "soviet atrocities"

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we had a shaky alliance with them before that, and its not hard to glamorize how they operated in WW2, the idea of just about any able bodied man and even some women just given a gun and fighting for their idea of the motherland. It's not hard to sympathize with the citizens stuck in that mess because they were fooled into believing their shit way of life was the right way, and they thought "those stupid capitalists were fooled into thinking they were right"

okay but it's exactly what op wanted

nigger where have you been communism is the new hot thing for liberals and decades of the propaganda machines in hollywood focusing on the nazis over the commies has skewed society's perception of them

how many big tragic war movies are there about the crimes of communism vs those of the nazi regime

>literally believing soviet propaganda instead

Also, suddenly antisemitism is alright? I thought Nazis were evil.

>One that humanizes the Germans
kinda hard to do that when you exterminate 6 million non-combatants.

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>nd decades of the propaganda machines in hollywood focusing on the nazis over the commies has skewed society's perception of them
>hollywood didn't target soviets
>literally quotes mutt anti soviet propaganda bout human waves and soviet crimes
HOLY FUCKING SHIT get a load of that poltard. No wonder you guys sympathize nazis you have shit instead of brains

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>stares in nuke

stein is a german surname :-)

It would be really boring and really pretentious just like every piece of fiction that purports to "treat characters like real people" instead of well-written engaging constructs.

Nobody gives a shit about Horst-Egon bored off his ass in a field tent writing shitty love letters to Gretchen at home.

And I also don't need some Americunt writer telling me what they imagine some Nazi kid might have thought or felt in the field because my Grandpas told me the real deal already.

kys

retarded

american

tranny

subhuman

the guys in the camps, whether you want to believe they were real or not were not the same guys on the front. There's so many stories lost to time of these poor fuckers out there in the shit, just like our boys were, some good men some bad men just out there fighting be it for a cause or because they had no choice and got drafted. We'll never get to know their stories cuz they lost and I find that a shame. You think 18year old hans knew the grand scheme? fuck no.

>2 million nazi civies dead against 15+ dead soviet civilians
Maybe the soviets wouldn't have died so much if they hadn't been a bunch of braindead incompetent starving commie retards who got their shit pushed in by a much smaller country who had already conquered several other countries before coming to rape Ivan while also fighting the US and UK

>literally quotes mutt anti soviet propaganda bout human waves and soviet crimes
where faggot i don't think you know who you're talking to and no any anti commie propaganda is dwarfed by anti nazi propaganda

the six million figure existed in the american jewish press as far back as the late 1800s

OP probably wanted a good game not a shit game

>Maybe the soviets wouldn't have died so much if they hadn't been a bunch of braindead incompetent starving commie retards who got their shit pushed in by a much smaller country
>Nazi germany circa 1941 was smaller than Soviet Union in anything but territory
literal brainlet post but true maybe soviet civilians wouldn't die if germans didn't burn fallen villages and cities en masse

Company of Heroes is a RTS, but it has a German campaign, and two mini ones too.

>hollywood didn't target soviets
Not for the last 30 years

>whether you want to believe they were real or not were not the same guys on the front
you're literally playing the #notallnazis card.

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you wanna respond you fucking faggot?

>ordered to shoot civilians/prisoners
>refuse or don't they are still executed
>watch SS units make asses of themselves in combat while being praised at home for being propaganda machines
>take meth
>burn down a hamlet
>take meth again
>SS units in your area kill prisoners again, making the enemy refuse to surrender to you and fight even harder
>push a horse cart out of the mud for the millionth time
>armor support ran out of fuel
>take meth
>your squad goes from fit men to kids and old people who
>final level is you either retreating to and surrendering to the west or dying in a gulag

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>hamlet
is this another word for a small pig

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I'm sure he knows, he just chooses to not believe it

Just generalizing. Poltards love to use dehumanizing arguments and "human waves" is one of them on par with "Soviets raped little greta".

it means he watched come and see and took the commiepropaganda seriously

Because every white supremacist would use it as a stepping stone to propagate their "Nazis weren't that bad" narrative, which they can then inevitably link to their anti-Semitic rhetoric. You racists cucks don't want historical accuracy, you want an easy-to-warp story to push your bigoted agenda. Literally neck yourself.

Germany had half the population of the Soviet Union
>if germans didn't burn fallen villages and cities en masse
Maybe soviets shouldn't have let them take those villages and cities, but the red army was a fucking dumpster fire held together by US and UK support, they couldn't protect shit but their commie overlords.

Dilate faggot

>muh /pol/
>actively discusses politics
no you are the /pol/ faggot

haha im sure no commies ever raped german civilians and im sure all german civilians supported the nazis totally not worth mentioning amirite you also can't talk about all of the atrocities of the war and should be forced to ignore any of the war crimes not be committed by the nazis haha

As long as it's in an alternate timeline where Berlin gets nuked first

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play men of war

>Eastern front was germany vs USSR
German military outnumbered soviets at 1:3 and bigger rates on most eastern front directions in 1941
1. It's history not politics
2. BTFOing nazi pol trannies in their own threads outside of their contamination board at very first ocassion is not the same as being poltard.
>haha haha
now it's coping

Red army went from being top tier in tactics and strategy and terrible in execution and everything else, to barely good enough tactics and strategy and pretty good everything else. For a while it was, yes, a dumpster fire. But it's fascinating how they went from being armchair strategists who were great at western style military strategy and got really confused when the strategies weren't working because the soviet units themselves were shit, to an army that doesn't bother with deeper strategy and just throws enough men, tanks and artillery at a problem and wins that way.

no it's fucking not

America would implode.
Fuck that'd be great to witness.

>It's history not politics
it's both you sniveling little bitch
>BTFOing nazi pol trannies
you didn't btfo anyone user and ive been wiping the floor with you ever since you responded to me
>haha cope
hi zoomzoom im done with you

BF5 has a german campaign???

Pepefedoratrumpniggers unironically hate fascists and say the left are the real nazis, /pol/ constantly tells them to fuck off but they're stuck with those faggots for another four and a half years

You just shat yourself so hard

>Final level is defense of Berlin
>Objective:Survive

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*cough*

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>RTS
Boring

Nothing would happen, it's been done several times already.

Only faggots make a fuss either way.

>Doubt players like killing civilians and commiting warcrimes.
>Real people did it at the time in real life.

Brainwashed idiot.

Germans murdered more than 6 million Polish civilians including Polish jews. So yes, that post is correct.

That's not an FPS though, zoomzoom brains can't comprehend any sort of strategic thinking, they only want to ooh and aah at the set pieces and scripted events while occasionally clicking some controller buttons to do cool actions.

>dat like/dislike ratio
We really need another Hitler.

Times have changed
100 years ao it was considered normal to have like 3 babies surviving out of 5 now 1 dying is a tragedy, people were used to death back then

>Germans murdered more than 6 million Polish civilians including Polish jews
source? also clearly that user was meaning the jew in concentration camps

>mfw no game from the jap perspective on iwo jima.

気持ち悪い

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>Germans murdered more than 6 million Polish civilians including Polish jews.
Where are the bodies? The only means the Germans realistically had of disposing of that many bodies was mass graves .We've had no problems locating the location of mass graves in every other conflict before and after WW2.

Hell if we can find the remains of a single dinosaur buried in Siberia 200 million years ago surely 6+ million bodies buried less than a hundred years ago would be easy to find.

wait a minute t hose are on and the same so yeah that's questionable considering the 6 million number existed back in the late 1800s

Battlestations Pacific

Bad things. DICE got shit on pretty hard by Polygon & Co for the Tiger I episode and that was just one mission.

The tranny discord sure is going wild in this thread.

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>2020 -1
>unironically thinking RTS games are for big brained big boys
Pretentious brainlet detected
I was playing RTS when I was 8, over time I got bored of them and realized the genre was shit.

t. turtler

The same way people would react to a game that accurately depicts the American perspective and demonizes them for their triumphs and the greatest war crimes ever committed, with outrage.

No one likes the truth.

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>Nuremberg
>Tribunal

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>i got bored
clever way of saying you never got good

can't sell it to yanks

There are already a lot of games where you play as a nazi soldier though. They aren't "humanized" I guess but neither are the allies.. no one cares about that shit in an fps. Single player fps just suck so who cares.

pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straty_osobowe_Polski_w_czasie_II_wojny_światowej

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland

courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldhistory2/chapter/casualties-of-world-war-ii/

google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.msz.gov.pl/resource/c965265f-f903-461b-a777-6256a0e7166e:JCR&ved=2ahUKEwjh5pvZrtfjAhUEKlAKHYTkB2cQFjAGegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2ATn5e4dKr5Vao10exILSy

And keep googling, because it's common knowledge if you're not /pol/tard

>Where are the bodies? The only means the Germans realistically had of disposing of that many bodies was mass graves

Are you 12, or retarded?

>defense
I just rush everything
>you just haven't eaten enough shit to start enjoying the taste

you still haven't even touched or challenged the 6 million figure and its existence before ww2 and that Wikipedia entry literally says the 6 million figure was supplied by fucking commies lmao, im sure they had no interest on shifting the blame onto the west

>Americans kill millions of Japanese
>Well documented
>Remains still being discovered to this very day
>Even repeated fire bombing and nuclear fucking weapons don't magically vanish millions of bodies

>"Nazi's kill millions of Jews
>No proof at all
>No concerted efforts made to support any claims
>All 6 gorillion magically disappear despite us knowing exactly where they supposedly were

Really makes you think.

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Not that user, but i'm sure gasing 6 millions "foreigners" is quicker than starving about 10 millions of your own people and spying on them to make sure they didn't hide food otherwise they would be exectued
Yes, the jews were also starving in concentration camps, just like stalin send his people to gulag to work until death in the most shittiest weather

they'd love it.

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They were humans alright, no doubt here. Humans do really nasty shit all the time. Shouldve been real humans too and gas them, burn them, shoot every last one.
Too bad we were the commies, and commies are not humans.

>soviet perspective

Doubt players like killing and raping women and children, slaughtering men and committing war crimes.

>gasing 6 millions "foreigners" is quicker
Shooting them is quicker, easier, and cheaper.

That guy is a fed

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Where i said anything about 6 million jews propaganda?

Im talking about German war crimes against Polish citizens.

sounds like a really good game

Why are Americans so fat?

>muh 6 gorrilion

Im sure your mutt streets are full of whites dressed like the roaring twenties. Leave your basement sometimes.
And thats england, in no country of europe somebody consider them "europeans"

losing to vietnam really destroyed their spirit.

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What i meant by quicker was that multiple jews were killed at once in the gas chamber (efficienty)
Meanwhile russians were either shot or starved, falling one by one every couple of minutes

I said accurate game

the two are one and the same though, auschwitz was a polish camp

>No proof at all

Yes, no proof at all. Where are the bodies?
>"but they said during the trial-"
That's not a proof.

user, you're telling me that you ACTUALLY believe that millions of Jews were gassed and systematically murdered in funny ways in the Holocaust?!

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>6 millions deaths
>No proof
Weren't there documents talking about how many jews they were able to kill per gas chamber or someshit? Also, weren't the bodies hidden close to said gas chamber?

>six million bodies hidden close to a chamber
kek

>Nazis bad, every single one of them
>but not their scientists, so we have to take them
Burgers.

No, if they were, no one would actually question the holocaust.

in every major war there's people that get swept up into it. most of the people fighting and dying are just average people; neither good or evil. some are manipulated, told lies, believe they are doing the right thing for whatever reason.
most people are not innately born 'evil' and also do not have a natural predisposition for killing one another which is why propaganda is necessary.

So apart from the videos, the pictures, the first-hand reports, the reports made by GIs and Soviet soldiers alike, the constructions themselves, the traces of Zyklon B in the walls, the audio documents by high-ranking nazi officials talking about it, the confessions by them and former guards, the written instructions - what more do you need?
>It doesn't count if it contradicts my narrative.
We both know what you are.

>videos, the pictures
these dont show six million bodies

You're right that people aren't born evil but the Wehrmacht went ahead and did it anyway. That doesn't make them look better.

>the two are one and the same though, auschwitz was a polish camp

So you're saying, that non jewish Polish citizens count as jews now and Poles built concentration camps for Poles themselves?

I am a person who asks where are the bodies.

Where are the bodies?

There are several documents regarding the "Endlösung", though. But of course, that doesn't count for some arbitrary reason, right?
>They didn't write how they were killing all these jews, signed by Hitler himself in his own blood? Nice try, kike!

the wehrmacht as a group identity were without a doubt evil and all needed to be killed/removed. the point of my comment is that they are still humans and, at the very least, were unfortunate to live where and when they did. more unfortunate were those completely innocent, slaughtered at their hands

Yeah? Hitler had his signature on something evidencing the holocaust? I find that hard to believe since the claim is that it was all orchestrated verbally.

no im just saying we're discussing the same topic and every claim made about the six million jews is based on auschwitz being hell on earth

the germans definitely built the camp during the occupations and they definitely killed tons of people and comitted heinous war crimes (like most countries involved in the war) but the six million claim is questionable and the numbers for polish deaths came from communists who were actually even worse than the nazis and had just had the holodomore, it's just not reliable

im not even saying it outright didn't happen im questioning if it did and i see no reason to believe the claims at this point considering the conflicts of interest involved and how israel capitalized on the second world war with their holocaust industry

Why don't you do some actual research? It's almost like you want to insist on your ignorance. Makes you think.

Is that your comeback?
>just google, bro
No, I want you to show me the pics of 6 mil bodies because YOU claim those were real.

Aside from SJWs and Alt-rights sperging, not much. Banned in Germany and Israel.

These threads are always so fucking pathetic cant incels find anything else to do with their time besides claiming victimhood

all you'll do is say the pics are doctored even if pics are posted.

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>while trying to accurately depict their triumphs and failures
You'd have a game with a fun first half and a horrible second half

They only had triumphs from sneak attacks on lester countries. Once people knew they were niggers they never won anything
Literally chimped out for being btfo 20 years earlier

Haha yeah kangaroo courts are based right my fellow goyim.

go back to /leftypol/ commie filth

a glow nigger?

So all you will do is fighting till D-Day and then run your ass off the rest of the game?

Can you imagine unironically believing the soviets were good guys

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>treats them like real people
Real people do awful things just because it's their job. The mooks you shoot in Wolfenstein bitch about their wool socks, worry about their family's health, and get autistic about good grammar. Doesn't change the fact they're working for a genocidal regime trying to subjugate the world.

>great-grandparents from eastern europe
>soviets burned their houses and stole everything valuable
>nazis gave them food and money
NAZIS BAD COMMIES GOOD

Sympathy for the Devil is not a new concept at all. Go read Paradise Lost, which depicts Satan as a tragic figure who nevertheless gets everything he deserves and then some.

if you lived there and disagreed with the regime you got german-gulaged and then faced a firing squad
imagine being trapped in that kind of situation and then having a family to protect