What is the smartest way valve could resolve this dilemma?

Who cares? it's some stupid hats. Just leave it how it is and introduce a new even rarer tier called "super unusual" and retards will keep buying them.

>(you)

>They can't punish the exploiters without courting a bunch of legal bullshit

Imagine believing this. Were your parents related before they were married? Valve can legally do anything they want with "your" items.

>doubting people's hat autism

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based

Don't. Leave the hats that are locked to trade as locked to trade. Everyone who bought them knew full well they were bugged. Everyone who bought anything yesterday knew there was a chance it would get deleted/reverted, and did it anyway. Let them keep the hat because who gives a shit, but make sure it doesn't hold """""value""""".

Delete TF2 and pretend it never existed.

The fact someone went out of their way to make this image is pretty sad

fpbp

>Buy boxes that valve fucked up the coding on to get unusuals
>Don’t inject code or alter program in anyway
>>>>>CHEATING

Exploit, yes. Cheating, no. Exploits are always the fault of the developer.

>Buy keys from Valve for $2.50 each in actual money
>Use said keys to open lootboxes that you also spent real world dollars on (a cut of which goes to Valve)
>receive a tradeban and forfeit purchased goods because some intern hit the wrong key and changed up the variables in an unregulated gambling mechanic
>Implying Valve will punish paying customers for doing something totally legal that Valve themselves actively encourages their playerbase to do, which only became a "problem" because of a technical fuckup that is 100% on Valve's end
Seethe harder tradefags. And you're not getting a new Cheater's Lament either.

Implement an automatic TF2 update that scans user inventories for fake unusuals. Anyone with one in their inventory has their game files replaced with gigabytes of child pornography, then forwards their IP address to the FBI.

You fuck with me? It is a must that I fuck with you.

Yeah whatever dude. Enjoy your ban. You decided to ruin the game economy, you are going to get punished and all you can do is cry about it.

They could always rework the affected crates to give a smaller pool of unusuals but also give it a 1% chance to drop a super DUPER unusual of sorts

DO IT VALVE

I'm beginning to this this nigger is tradefag...

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cope tradefag

Cope tradefag, your pixels are worth as much as your life, fucking NOTHING

Patch the crates but make the unusuals tradeable, because fuck trader scum

different poster
Long ago, when the Mann Co store was still new, people bought cheap hats en masse in order to use them as crafting fodder. Valve took issue with this and changed the store so that buying those hats direct made them uncraftable, but all of the cheap craft hats that had already been bought were left completely alone.
Valve is willing to cut players a little slack.

Do nothing because only a lunatic would believe a virtual hat should be worth 12 grand

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>"Hey Valve I'm going to give you legal tender for something you're selling."
>"Okay. Enjoy your purchase!"
>"I will!"
>"Oh wait no you have to give us this back also you're tradebanned."
Imagine being such a helmet child dipshit retard tradertranny as to think this wouldn't generate INFINITE ill-will from the consumerbase in a best case scenario and a full-on class action lawsuit at worst.

Yes, technically Valve can do whatever they want with our pixels. But when you bring legal tender into it, it's a whole other ballgame. We exchanged money for services rendered. They could take it back for a FULL refund and nothing less, but they won't do that because people have already moved the money around. People who made $200 on crates have spent some of that on games. If a trader sells a crate for $60 and buys Cyberpunk with it and Valve wants to undo that, they'd have to get the money back from CD Project. It's too complicated, too expensive, and would generate LOADS of bad press because this simple hat exploit created a ripple effect that negatively impacted all of fucking Steam.

The Unusuals aren't going anywhere. Maybe they get made unmarketable, but that's the most they can do without opening a whole fucking silo of worms.

Make Half Life 3.

Another video game economy fuck up? But we already had the Twisted Bow fiasco in Runescape this year.

>a bloo bloolegal tender bloo bloo bloo legal tender
You can't do shit

With the exception of people who opened a large number of crates, Valve can't prove that a given player had a guilty mind when opening crates or using the Steam Market, which makes an unusual deletion solution unlikely.

I'm not affected by any possible unusual changes unless Max Heads become more desirable due to the degradation of unusual hats as a status symbol

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>ill will

Literally who cares? Dota and CS:GO still print money and underage kids will play TF2 forever. Fucking over exploit abusers will do nothing. Nobody will do shit, Valve has a bigger dick than you and always will.

Send some kind of electrical charge through the internet to all computers of people that give a fuck about tf2 or the tf2 hatstore that causes the computers in question to explode and kill these people. It's all very theoretical.

Here's an idea - let the unusuals be as they are, introduce a new item rarity, and have that function like unusuals used to, but slightly more common.

Economy may stabilise, but radically different. A brave new era.

>Yes, technically Valve can do whatever they want with our pixels
literally all you needed to post

>be casualfag
>buy keys for real world money
>happen to open some crates
>Oh boy cool hats!
>oops Valve fucked up now those aren't the same kind of items you spent actual legal tender on tough shit kid

>browsing the market
>WOAH FUCK UNUSUALS ARE FINALLY CHEAP
>spend $50 outfitting every class and loadout with Unusuals
>"oops haha those are lesser quality now because an intern hit the wrong button sorry not sorry buyer beware lol"

They have literally no way of proving anyone with a duped unusual was aware of the exploit. Cheaters Lament was one thing back in the day because money wasn't involved. Now you have people outright purchasing items for real world money and that makes a world of difference.

I think they should just leave everything as is to piss off faggots like this who spent thousands of hours trading instead of actually playing the game

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b-b-b-but muh legal tender, I used a legal term so I sound like I know what I'm talking about

Release even RARER hats.

>the raw cope
Imagine Investing in pixels

I'd like this but only if they put the unusual drop rate to 50%
It's a win win tradefags get their "status symbol" and normal people get nice hats

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>monday rolls around
>ill-gotten unusuals deleted
>people who sold them are tradebanned
>people who own them are tradebanned
>people who sold the crates are tradebanned

youtube.com/watch?v=lAONS747SXg

>Dick Scott: "I don't have the problem, EVERYONE ELSE DOES!!!!!"

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of all the things in this thread that won't happen this won't happen the most

Delete hats.
Give everyone who bought and used keys a free key and the exact box they opened.

>you wake up from your dream
>the unusuals are still there
>you still spent money on hats in team fortress 2

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>tradefags think valve gives a fuck about them

Leave the items flagged non-tradeable and then pretend none of this ever happened.

>y-you can't d-do anything! M-my Unusuals are gonna be w-worth something again because I earned it! M-muh symbol of status!

Community market and trading is by far the worst thing to happen to tf2, csgo, AND dota, and should be removed entirely

>unusuals deleted
>people who unboxed the unusuals get a free hat
>its a big neon sign reading "FAGGOT"
>it cant be unequipped or deleted

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Instead of deleting the items, perhaps they could remove the unusual trait and revert them to normal cosmetics? Or is that not actually possible?

I want it to still piss off trade kikes.

What dilemma? The fact that TF2 hasn't been shut down since literally nobody play anymore should be good enough. Who cares if autist got fucked because a virtual item is worthless now

>Implying a situation where Valve undoes THOUSANDS of dollars worth of purchases via their virtual storefront due entirely to employee error wouldn't erode faith in their reputation as a digital retailer quicker than a wad of cotton candy caught in a monsoon

How much have you wasted on pixels?

No, casual matchmaking is the worst thing to happen for people who actually played the game.

Relative to steam's userbase effectively nobody would give a fuck

>M-muh EULA! Daddy Valve will provide, I've b-been a g-good boy! M-muh investments!

>crying about your fiat currency you traded in not being worth anything on a random whim/glitch
maybe little user should have invested in some gold or silver, instead of a video game hat system

There are very few items thar reach tripple digit marks in dota because of the sheer volume of them. Keeps the stock market larpers away.

I've got a better idea then all y'all
All unusuals in the entry game get turned into a gibus
There now everyone is pissed off and out for blood problem solved!

MY UNUSUALCOIN INVESTMENTS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>muh reputation

Valve could ban every person involved with this from Steam and nothing would change. People would still be invested in Steam, people would still play the games, people would invest in Steam game items, nobody would sue, anybody who did sue would lose instantaneously and you eat cum for dinner like always. Nothing else would happen. This is why it's exactly the most likely thing to happen.

This is the only just answer. Anyone who actually cares that there's way more Unusuals now is confirmed to be a butt-blasted traderfag who needs to learn why it's a bad idea to build your life's financial investments around imaginary hats.

The involvement of the Steam Market and steambux is why Valve can't do a rollback like other games i.e. RuneScape can.

>there are people who think valve will fucking ban people over their own fuckup
At absolute worst they will keep the hats untradable. That is the literal worst case scenario for people who benefited from it.
And you are STILL gonna piss yourselves over your digital hats being devalued.

>traders ITT
imagine putting more stake into hats with glowy particles and not actual GUNS that get used in gameplay

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They shouldn't.

I'm enjoying the schadenfreude from these no-life traders who've dedicated their lives to amassing virtual hats. Maybe they'll actually be forced to go out and get real jobs.

>change unboxed unusuals to a new quality called Corrupted
>cant be traded or marketed, have a unique particle effect
>give everyone else the halo

There, problem solved.

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There are some BIG wallets involved in steam trading.
The loss of $100k worth of hats could prompt you to at least try litigation.

Some matches still get 2k+ viewers
TF2 just needs competent league promotions

Give everyone that didn't open crates a special halo hat.

>he thinks "legal tender" is some niche buzzword them thar city folks use to make themselves look edumacated
Oh I'm laffin.
Seethe harder, tradertranny. Your investments aren't real. All it takes is some bumbling fuckwit to spill their coffee on the TF2 servers and everything you've made is disappeared into the ether.

The Unusuals are here to stay and you're not getting a Cheaters Lament. Cope.

I want a solution that pisses off the most people, I think it would be something like
>all but a random 1% of the unusuals are deleted
>the remaining 1% is given a special rarity and made tradeable
>people who didn't capitalize on the bug get 2 ref as consolation

>things that will never happen for $500
C O P E
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P
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Banning people over this would be terrible. Sure I guess some people cheated but bugs like this are discovered by accident. There's someone out there who just felt like unboxing and had no idea what would happen, before all this shit started. Those early users meant no harm at all.

This would be cool

>NO MOMMY HE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT HAT!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEEDED YOUR CREDIT CARD TO PROVE IM A REAL PLAYER!!!!! I PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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user these seethe levels are off the charts, are you okay?

new rarity for the glitched unusuals

End of evangelion intensifies.

Unusuals are more like cryptokitties/ponzi ETH games that were all the rage in late 2017/early 2018
Maybe one could believe shit like ARK, REQ, NANO, LTC were good long term investments, but no one thought cryptokitties were a good long term investment
That makes TF2 unusual "investors" dumber than even the most JUSTed guy on /biz/

That's why I'm so happy this exploit existed.
It killed the Mannconomy, or at least came close to killing it. With any luck these braindead faggots who spend all their time pretending to be a stock broker in a children's video game will realize their investments can literally become worthless at any second, liquidate their assets, and never touch a video game again for the rest of our sakes.

It is kind of hilarious to me that people give enough of a shit about the halo that people actually want them to give them out again. Back when I played they were so bottom of the barrel welfare tier hat that nobody fucking wore them.

TRADER FURRIES ROLLING IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT

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The best way to deal with this is to give the hats a special rarity above unusual in order to applaud the entrepreneurial attitude the abusers exhibited.

Imagine investing in pixels

REMOVE HATS

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Based

Are tradejews the most hated group in tf2?

Yes, that’s why they all try and gang up to shift public opinion. They are to be avoided at all costs, and should be mocked relentlessly at all times.

The next is comp fags

It's literally the
>I DIDN'T SPEND $3000 TO WATCH SOME F2P PICK UP MY GOLDEN PAN
thing all over again, and it's still just as funny

>all the tradefags begging Valve on Twitter
>all the "YOU WOULDN'T BE LAUGHING IF YOU LOST YOUR HOME OR LIVELIHOOD" seething on SPUF
>the literal "muh symbol of status, Unusuals are how you know someone is good at the game" autists
It's delicious

I want it because I think it would increase the overall seethe levels by a least a little and could also act as a bit of a commemoration for the funniest event in the game's entire life

Tradefurfagtrannies eternally btfo

>punish consumers who gave Valve money
>reward people who don't play the game or support the economy in a way that benefits Valve
Capitol idea, old sport!

Ban them. No you wont sue, you have no legal recourse because you abused an online marketplace. Just ban them and continue raking in free money with your games store.

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>n-no, u!
Absolutely seething.

What happened?
I heard that tf2 economy is fucked but I have not cared in ages but tf2 news are still news.

Does this lower the prices of the unusuals? if so, this is great.

Hatfags are worse than gatchafags. You fuckers are the cause of lootboxes. You made them see there is a viable market. You are also incredibly hypocritical by lambasting those others markets thinking this is any different. You are the original whales bunch of gullible faggots

took you seven minutes to come up with that huh, step it up nigga

>Ban them. No you wont sue, you have no legal recourse because you abused an online marketplace. Just ban them and continue raking in free money with your games store.

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>give everyone else the halo
but using these crates wasn't cheating.

Pissed

>Valve pushes to open crates
>open crate
>”NO NOT LIKE THAT”
Retard

>what is the smartest way valve could resolve this dilemma?
By doing NOTHING or at best only making them untradeable/unmarketable. They are pixels on a screen, how much money one guys choose to spend on it over another guy is completely irrelevant.

>Valve goes full scorched earth and now all Unusuals are untradeable
>Except for the exploited ones, they're fine and also Strange now

Wouldn't that make them much more rare in comparison?

they accidentally gave some crates 100% unusual hat chance.

Cope

Are tradenigs finally done hyperventilating in their room about their lost life savings to finally come here to cope?

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Fifa fags predate hatfags by a whole year and are the only reason ea is still alive.

Yes, and with good reason >>

eternal reminder that strange items > unusual items

some idiot intern fatfingered a value somewhere and caused a subset of crates to drop unusuals 100% of the time. This obviously caused a mass panic sell, as well as my favorite part, a bunch of idiot traders who had scripts set up to purchase unusuals if they fell below a certain price ended up with inventories full of unusuals worth pennies.
Alternately, valve did it on purpose because it was probably the most profitable the marker has literally ever been for them

This is the best weekend ever lmao

The thin ones killed themselves, the fat ones had the rope snap and now they’re cope posting here

Strange plain killstreak weapons would be the most valuable items in the game if anybody had any sense

>"""abused""" an online marketplace
It ain't personal, it's just business. Ironically the only people who don't understand this are self-described traders.

>what is the smartest way valve could resolve this dilemma?

Everyone gets to keep the unusuals they unboxed, but the unusuals opened during this period and under those specific conditions are now untradable/sellable/etc.

Everyone gets an unusual cheaters lament or some other original, new, unusual welfare hat to commemorate the odd occasion.

That's it. Nothing further is needed.

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Someone give me a quick rundown.

>Valve relocates some code monkeys to fix the exploit (assuming they haven't done that already)
>Bugged unusuals are untradeable and unmarketable. Some, however will dodge the bullet by sheer luck alone
>Everyone who missed out or did not participate gets a fag halo
>Tradeniggers are still on suicide watch
Basically business as usual

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Lootboxes are a scam and I’m happy valve got fucked by their own skinner boxes

BASED trips

>The fact that TF2 hasn't been shut down since literally nobody play anymore should be good enough.
It's th 6th most played game on steam, even today. It still averages between 38k and 50k users a month.

people who invested in hatcoin got bogged

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Most likely outcome: Valve does literally nothing.
Runner up outcome: Unboxed unusuals become untradeable.
Never ever outcomes: Any form of cheater's lament, any form of banning.
Valve doesn't give enough of a shit.

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>implying some intern at valve wasn’t knowingly fucking with drop rates
>implying they weren’t testing something
>implying they didn’t just forget to revert the changes
I think there’s more to this

Ah thank you, gonna check.
But I cannot think of any hat I wish to buy.

To be honest I only wanted to open one, even though I spent $50 on an attempt years ago I know I could just buy the hat but I think they ruined the look of the game.

I also associate unusuals with shit players like traders and pubstompers.
Hello there /vg/!

How did valve get fucked?

This.
There absolutely exist people who just HAPPENED to open a crate and get an exploited unusual because, surprise, that's what Valve is encouraging the playerbase to do. They made out like bandits between the key sales and the 5% they skim off marketplace transactions and they'd be retarded to punish the people who gave them that business in the first place.

This is 100% on Valve. If they hadn't fucked up and events played out identically, they'd be overjoyed. But their fuckup jeopardized the player economy, and that's how they make their money rather than actually adding to the game in substantial ways. Valve is the deciding variable that turns this from a very profitable evening to a problem that requires corporate attention.

>>Everyone who missed out or did not participate gets a fag halo
I can't remember why was the gay halo given away for?

youtube.com/watch?v=2983n6sLQoQ
TRADENIGGAS ABSOLUTELY BTFO

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Explain how I'm wrong. You wont do it, pussy.

Imagine hating on skins casinos and skin betting. Trading was kino in CS:GO.

What hat did you get Yea Forums? Did you make a neat loadout to compliment it and its effect?

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Hat ideling

They didn't, what people don't realize is that valve probably made more money off of trade transactions in a single 12 hour period than they make off of the market in a year on average. Valve is probably fucking ecstatic about it, and assuming they didn't plan it all to begin with, are working at finding new ways to do the exact same thing.

it was given for not using idle servers. that was the intention at least, some people that idled still got it and people that didn't, didn't.

This. Not to mention Valve's official stance on the in-game economy is 100% hands-off, since managing that kind of thing makes it a very sticky situation.

Prices are determined by the market, now because of Valve that market was thrust into upheaval. Something's gotta give. Either this is just the way things go and the tradefag community can deal, or Valve is gonna step in and make sure their fuckup didn't crash the economy while still keeping those who paid for their Unusuals happy.

I haven't been this happy in a long time. I win in every path valve takes, I either get to keep my unusuals, get full refund, or watch a fire so massive it can be seen from another galaxy. It's so exciting, I feel like a kid again. TUMBLING DOWN

Not quite, it was given away for not using a third party application to idle, you could use idling servers fine, so long as you did it through the game.

they're just pixels son

The only thing that kinda takes the wind out of my sales with Stranges is those faggy farming servers. Like seeing a Hales Own should be impressive, but I just find myself assuming that whoever is using it just farmed it like that over a weekend unless they're REALLY noticeably fucking good.

i only got shit but it's okay since i spent like 3$

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>each week a random crate number is selected to get 100% drop rate on unusuals
>valve rake in tons of cash
>traders all suicide
>gabe wins novel peace prize

I got a Kill-a-Watt Tyrant's Helm
It's a nice little hat :)

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based as fuck

>playerbase skyrocketed
>summer event and the bug cause people to buy keys like crazy
Maybe they are trying to recover after the Australia lawsuit?
There are plenty of pub stompers that use stock loadouts. Those are the ones you gotta watch out for.

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Tell that to the traders

>Dead Presidents Smoking Skid Lid
>Miami Nights pardner's pompadour

I despise wojaks but /biz/posting gets me every time

Purple Energy Liquidator's Lid and a Vivid Plasma Sultan's Ceremonial. Don't particularly like the liquidator's lid, but the sultan's ceremonial is pretty sweet.

OH NO NO NO

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This.

I personally don't care if my Unusuals are untradeable now. I bought them because I wanted them, not because I hoped to flip them later. I disagree with the principle of retroactively changing something that someone paid actual money for in a way that makes it lesser in value though, so giving everyone a free "hey wasn't this a wacky weekend" hat with a fun particle effect would be adequate recompense IMO.

>happen to open some crates
>happen to open some very specific crates that have been out of circulation for years and can only be acquired through deliberate means
Sure, retard apologist.

I don't disagree with you but Valve literally did nothing but profit from this. The only losers are traders, but then they've always been losers.

This but don't give out the halo.

I got shit unusuals. But at least I got some, so that's a win in my book.

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This

Need a hug, tradefags?

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>People who actually believe that valve will trade/market ban people over this
You're forgetting that a shitload of people didn't even unbox crates and were just buying the hats they wanted off of the market place. No one is getting banned over buying a hat on the market for a lower price than normal

probably not lmao

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They didn't. They made money from Market Sales, Key Sales and the fact that people bought Steam Bucks to participate in both sales above. Valve is the overall winner in this and at best will just mark the hats to show they were "Exploit" hats while still letting them live inside the economy cause they will never see the true value of the "TF2 Economy" in their wallet.
You're wrong because that would mean Valve would be valuing traders in a slowly declining game population over people who are willing to drop money into their ecosystem outside of one game. Why would they risk customers who will potentially keep buying off their platform for a few traders when they themselves will never actually get the value you put on your hats?

TRADER BABIES SEETHING

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>Exploit
Was it an actual exploit, or just uncrating normally? Because the latter isn't an exploit at all no matter how much tradefags try to deem it so.

Why would those who sold the crates be trade banned? For all they knew it was just a fluke.

Funnily enough it's gaining players from this mess, probably a bunch of former players trying get it on the shitshow. This happening might've been better since some half-asses Heavy update desu

Yea yea have fun with your f2p unusuals, it's inevitable they are gonna get scrubbed off the planet by the end of this week anyways so enjoy it while it last

Got a Terror-Watt Cadaver's Cranium and a Dead Presidents Towering Pillar.

I like that practically nobody wears the Cadaver's since it's basically an unrestricted Halloween item (and the effect matches it), and I'm gonna rename the Towering Pillar to "Trader's Lament" the first chance I get.

Would have liked to have gotten maybe one or two more cheap ones while the getting was still good (maybe a Hetman's or other underrated hat), but I'm overall pleased to finally have some Unusuals I can wear on my main classes after over 10 years of playing this gayass game.

I got shitty gen 3 effects so I would be down for this. Give the hats a little dropping stock market effect, devil horns, exploding keys, etc.

The funny thing is they might end up creating a market if they somehow make the new unusuals marked in some fashion that makes them unique compared to their "Normal" counterparts. I can see it now.
>Dead Presidents for sale, 1 of X hats in existence

Funnily enough it's gaining players from this mess, probably a bunch of former players trying get it on the shitshow. This happening might've been better than some half-assed Heavy update desu

Release TF3 without hats and crates.

ABSOLUTELY BTFO

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Make the exploit unusuals have a new item quality called counterfeit or something. Old unusuals maintain value. Maybe even make it so these exploited unusuals rarely give off particles

There are a bunch of unused effects in the game files they could slap on.

Honestly I'd prefer someone with a unusual gotten this way, than someone with a real unusual.
People who give a shit enough to have a real unusual are pure autism that probly spent way too much just to have a shiny hat and a fucking outfit to stand out.

It'd be really nice if they became marketable, but I don't play TF2 anymore so it'd all go to waste.

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This is unironically a gangbusters idea.
>There are so many hats and effects that the diversity in results would mean there's still demand for specific hats with specific effects
>100% unbox rate is only live for the first 24 hours of the month, so they make FUCKTONS of cash regularly without flooding the market
>increased profit motivates more additions to the game to keep interests alive
>more new hats and Unusual effects means more diversity which means more time before people are sick of it; with regular updates, interest can be extended indefinitely
>motivates more maps and weapons in order to lure in new players who have no reason to show interest in unusuals... yet

Imagine unironically thinking they wont just get deleted and refunded on Monday, holy shit

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I dont give a shit about tf2. Someone explain what happened

I'm loving all the art coming out of this debacle

Can you please stop saying legal tender ?

Is making me hungry

Unless you can prove literally every person who unboxed or purchased an unusual during the exploit, literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON, did so with hardline knowledge that this was an exploit ripe for abuse, you have no argument

AHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

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>sold crates and made fucking bank
>already spent my money
>get off scot fucking free

they bought keys and opened crates KNOWING that they would get an unusual. The only thing they exploited were traders by not spending more than $2.50 on an unusual.

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The best thing Valve could do is to get rid of hats altogether. Too bad that will never happen.

This desu
Literally all the consumer base had to do to "take advantage of this exploit" was use a key on a crate

People asking for tradebans are just bitter the have-nots got a piece of the pie

>Green Confetti Whirly and Plasma Pyro Head Warmer
I'll admit user,im a bit jelly of those 2 as I use both hats for my Soldier and festive Pyro.

>You won't do shit, pussy.
Famous last words.

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>everyone gets to keep their unusuals
>all untradable unusuals get the massed flies effect

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some hats are good

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Can someone tell me why tradefags are so mad? Is it because their unusuals aren't worth shit now?

Also, I'm guessing the exploit was fixed already?

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>Functionally the same visually as a regular unusual
>but now they have a special designation that marks them as having been born from the Crate Depression of 2019
>because regular Unusuals have been around since 2011, they GROSSLY outnumber these "tainted" Unusuals
>because they're rarer, they're worth more
>people who used the exploit are now richer and more exclusive than tradetrannys who have been at this for literal years
I'd actually cum

trips confirm fatfags trying to cope

How the fuck does that make any sense? If someone bought an unusual on the market when they were cheap it doesn't mean they knew there was something wrong. How does deleting something they paid for with cash make any sense?

It doesn't because this post was made by fat alt right furry tranny trader

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Cause they think Valve cares about an economy whose value they will never see turned into actual money. They think their economy is going to be put over those who actually gave Valve cash and for the most part aren't rampantly abusing the platform to warrant a potential risk in the long run.

Has this been fixed or can I still get an unusual right now?

All tradefags are massive autists that think the tf2 hat economy is a valid investment.

bumping the thread because some nigger told me to

And tons of people made thousands of dollars selling have nothing happen to them? They could have taken that money and spend it on in-game items in non-valve games. What happens to them? Anyone who thinks the solution to this is obvious is a retard that lacks critical thinking. It's a huge clusterfuck of a dilemna. Some group is going to be a lot less well off after this event and it's most likely going to be trade-fags whose hats are no longer worth as much as they hoped.

>Is it because their unusuals aren't worth shit now?
For those few hours. Shit got patched user

>"BAWWWW ME SPEND MONEY SO ME DESERVE EXPLOITED HAT"

So just give them back their money. Not a hard fix at all

That's way too much backtracking work for Valve. People have already sold, bought, and resold the bugged hats, buying other shit with that money like games and DLC. They would be spending months if not years correcting this if they went that route, and they'd still have to eat the sales from the glitched crates.

>Maybe even make it so these exploited unusuals rarely give off particles

>retroactively changing something people paid actual IRL dollars for just so traderfags won't have their fee-fees hurt over average players having the same pixels on their imaginary hats

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trading is gay anyways, can't wait to make these niggers cry of anger when i get to clap my ass on their face with my cheater's lament

Eh, even if they do fit the character, I feel like they do not fit into the game itself. TF2 and its characters are such masterstrokes of design that practically no one wanted cosmetics before they were eventually introduced.

Got those 2 shitty looking hats. Have been trying a lot but i can't think of anything to make these not look terrible. I just hope they make them tradeable or marketable so i can get rid of them for a few bucks.

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>Green Energy Law
I'll admit I'm a bit jelly user

They can only give them back their money in steam bucks which sucks if they deliberately put cash in solely to buy the unusual. This solution would still piss off a ton of people.

They will most likely just be left in the game but kept untradeable. Trade-fags are going to have to deal with the fact that unusuals aren't that special anymore. Cry more, faggots. It's time to move on.

The crates say "low chance at a rare item", so that rare item can be anything, even a useless pile of shit that just sits in your inventory.

???

Maybe that makes sense in your head, but I don't know what the fuck you think you're coming back with.

some got pissed their virtual hats werent worth as much and some were mad their virtual hats weren't as rare. i'm pretty sure making them untradable dampened the effect on the former since someone who would have bought your virtual hat at price x might have gotten one already and have no need for yours but since they're untradable there's still a market because of people who didn't get it. the latter are gonna continue to seethe unless valve decides to remove the hats or remove their unusual effects because they draw enjoyment from others not having them.

>absolutely COPING

that's fair

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Bite the bullet and accept they fucked up. No matter what action they take beyond it, they'll get people bitching at them.

boy people sure suddenly care a lot about in-game cosmetics that cost real money
whatever happened to that shitshow about ruining the industry and voting with your wallet?
Cant wait to see other games introduce ubusual effects.

>the only way to get an unusual is to open a crate
So what exactly do these faggots mean when they say they got their unusuals "fair and square"?
It got fixed, and all the bugged ones are no longer sellable.

The funny thing is making untradeable wont really help the economy in the end. Everyone who just wanted an unusual for the sake of wanting one or even unboxing one has done it. The market for Unusuals has shrunken entirely and will never really recover.

It's powered by traderfag salt.

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>Crasher name
>Crate Depression style description
I like you user, may you and your hat go far.

>just give them back their money
>that is now trapped in Steam until they eventually decide to give it back to Valve for something different
Not that simple, hoss

Nigga, nobody really knows how the market is going to react to this long term. If the hats are kept in the game then unusuals on average just aren't going to be worth as much, even if the bugged ones are kept untradeable. The huge draw of the hats in the first place is that they are rare and it feels good to wear something others don't have. In every pub now 60% of the people are wearing unusuals. The economy is going to hurt if they are kept in the game.

Which is good. Fuck trade-fags.

well the glitch was limited to series 1 and 3 unusuals so there are unaffected unusuals and like i said while they might have lost a potential sale you can see in these threads that some people just straight up missed the crate depression so while it likely has diminished there's likely still a market.

How do i rename this trash?

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That's discounting the people who cut out the middleman and just bought Unusuals directly because they were like $5

If the Marketplace wasn't a thing there might be a chance they'd change the hats but the most they'll do at this point is make them untradeable

>anons always shitting on the nearest unusualfag
>this happens
>anons dive in droves and use their real money for gabenbux

only normal way to get one is unboxing but if you're savvy or heartless enough you can trade your way up to or just outright buy an unusual. If you're talking about tradefags though they probably mean they traded their way up to their unusual.

thinking about something market and tradershaming related

Got two, but I wanted this one to be special

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So, wait, trader mains are happy when their hat is *potentially* worth hundreds of dollars, but they don't ever sell them and just have them sit in their inventory, or, sell them on secondhand sites, but now that there's alot more of them on steam and being sold in the COMMUNITY market owned by valve where sales give valve and not a different site owner a cut of the profits they're angry and demand that valve do something?
Why should valve do that exactly? You make more money without valve, and didn't give them their cut, so, why should they bother now?
Hell, if you're one of the collecting types, why does this affect you? I got the unusual I wanted two years ago (Starstorm Law) and I could care less if its value decreases. It looks cool, and I like it.
Is it the status? The imaginary worth attributed to the item?

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>Unboxed an unusual years ago that I still have so I don't need to latch onto a bugged 5 dollar Nuts and Bolts Towering Pillar of Hats like a homeless man protects his spare socks
Feels pretty good not being a lucklet

>DUDE VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET
The industry just got a lot more cancerous.

FUCK I MISSED OUT
is there anyway of cashing in still? hat prices seem to have rebounded already

>In every pub now 60% of the people are wearing unusuals
That hasn't been my experience. A lot of people didn't even realize it happened until the next day after Valve froze everything.

you need a nametag

Don't use my wife for your shitposts.

I mean what name should i pick im a turd worlder so my englis is not good very but traders still seethe

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The only way you can reasonably cash out here is if they make them tradable again. Otherwise, no.

They cant really hurt the economy if they're untradable user. Who really knows what Valve is gonna do

>So what exactly do these faggots mean when they say they got their unusuals "fair and square"?
It's literal Manifest Destiny mandate of heaven shit brought on by sheer bitterness that the only thing that made them special has now been attained by those they considered below them for FAR LESS of a cost.

It's like the spoiled fat kid on the block who throws a tantrum because other people have the same toy his rich daddy bought him earlier. They've invested their self-worth into a thing; the market crashed and that thing (and by extension, themselves) became worthless.

For all their raging and seething and coping, there is nothing the tradetranny hates more than itself.

Popular name for the glitched crate unusuals is Trader's Lament

fuck me, of course i stop playing for a couple of months and this shit happens while im gone
i would have gone full retard on it too, i have spent so much on keys and got absolute shit

this'ing this

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>and all you can do is cry about it.
Oh? Is that so? I think not.

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>got a couple nice hat drops a while back
>got an unusual for a class I don't play
>like my regular hats more
It's funny because I only opened like 5 crates.

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Valve releases a standardized unusual crate that is sold at 20 dollars and can 100% unbox any hat with any effect, including previous unusual miscs and is available all year round. New unusual effects from the community come 5 at a time with every case update. Valve hire me.

10/10 hat, paint, effect, and name combo

Oh, I just didn't understand what it was about.
Haven't played since the manco shop was added.
Honestly, that's fucking hilarious.

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Yes they fucking can. Everyone having something lowers the value of it, even if they can't make it to market.

Name it
>muh symbol of status

Make them tradable and everything. But make unusuals before the crate exploit also vintage

I starting maining Soldier because I got the unbox, but I still prefer themed cosmetic sets and demoman as of late.
Haven't taken the unusual off since I got it

>glitched unusuals get into the hands of people who just wanted to own unusual
>cheap unusuals fulfill the need of people who wanted a certain hat regardless of effect
Yeah I mean a smaller market totally wont affect the prices user.

as if we need more rarity/tier shit

>that name/description

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okay server died, i was a fucking cat, it was fun, come later or bump the thread im waiting for the server to be active again

Give everyone free unusuals and tank the game economy

WHOLE SERVER FULL OF FUCKIN TRADERS
I'MA DAB EM' TOO
GET THAT /BIZ/ SHIT OUT MA FUCKIN FACE
FORE' I MURDA YOU!

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>tfw had 3 crates but couldn't sell them because I forgot the password for second authentication
Such a chance, and I BLEW IT

>Is it the status? The imaginary worth attributed to the item?
Unironically yes. They're a superficial lot whose tastes are entirely determined by what is sought after by others.

You make a solid fucking point though. Third party sites have been thriving on the cash Valve would otherwise be getting, speaking from a business perspective they have no fucking reason to take ANY action that would benefit those third party sites in any way.

youtube.com/watch?v=iZlpsneDGBQ

A reminder to all tradefags. Every single unusual hat that exists was originally bought for two dollars and fifty cents.

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if anything this is a good way for valve to raise funds for 3

>normal players will keep their unusuals as untradeable but it doesn't matter since they actually play the game and don't bother trading
>people who don't give a shit about cosmetics made enough money off crates and hats to buy new games
>valve themselves made huge profits that day and increased the player numbers for the time being
>literally only tradefags suffered from this

HAHAHAHA GET FUCKED

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Delete keys and give everyone all hats.

FUCK TRADERS, FUCK HAT ECONOMISTS, FUCK COMPFAGS, AND FUCK SOLDIER MAINS

Quick question, why should volvo give a rat's ass about the tf2 economy and not just chalk this up as "our bad, enjoy what you got"?

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What about those trade restrictions that some people got?
Did they get lifted?

>most impactful glitch in tf2 history
>valve employees refuse to work overtime during the weekend to limit the damage

If you lacked proof Valve isn't worth your hopes and dreams, here you have it, they are giving the middle finger to traders, aka the whales making a large part of their profit to whom they catered to relentlessly in the past.

It was an exploit so tradeban them. Anyone who disagrees is just a butthurt exploit fag who desperately wants to get away with it.

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Seethe more tradefag

SEETHE

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>Someone doesn't know about the glitch
>Thinks they just got lucky unboxing an unusual
>All of a sudden tradeban 3 days later
Good job with that one, boss
How are you going to parse the people consciously using the exploit and the people who did it on accident?

>valve giving traders the middle finger
That just makes me like them more.

It makes them a lot of money

Cause hatniggers represent the only profitable part of tf2 and if they stop catering to them tf2 will turn into a money sinkhole, giving volvo even more reasons to stop giving it attention.

youtu.be/r5zpUyVAJjA
monday is gonna be great
nobody what valve does people will be mad

>damage
What fucking damage?
For some fucking completely optional cosmetic items? They aren't going to do anything. At all.

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>buying keys and opening crates is an exploit
>buying items on the market is an exploit
How stupid are you? Even if you unironically believe these things how do you separate the people that were just on the market at that time buying things they saw for a good price and didn't know about the bug, or just opening crates randomly and didn't know about the bug?

>>valve employees refuse to work overtime during the weekend to limit the damage
I woudlnt give a fuck too

>what is the smartest way valve could resolve this dilemma?
Give everyone a crate with a 100% unusual drop chance.

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Do we have any guess on the damage so far? Do we know how many unusuals got unboxed that day? What's it compared to the yearly rate? I really want to know how bad this was considering the player numbers where 90k that day and probably a third of those unboxed unusuals.

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>Le tradefags BTFO
>Hahaha, look at all my bugged unusuals, SEETHING aren't you tradie lololol
This thread is full of lucklets who desperately want to cling to the same status symbol the tradefags do and are afraid they are going to lose the only hat worth a shit they could get their grubby little poorfag hands on

Nigger, I hate tradefags too but you have to realize that this goes beyond that.
If they're not gonna do shit for the part of the community they seemingly want to retain the most, then how do you think they'll treat issues like balance, cheaters, performance, competitive or whatever else?

This is the definite symbol they no longer give a flying fuck about the game.

>implying Valve are gonna do anything
If it ain't CS:GO or Dota 2, they don't give a shit.

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judging by tf2backpack all 1-3 gen unusuals roughly got 50-100% amount increase

>retain the most
>game with the least amount of devs rotating into
>finale to storyline years late
>probably bringing in less revenue than DOTA and CS
This is true delusion. TF2's current team is floating at around 2 and no signs of more rotating in anytime soon.

Officially Add Fempyro to the game with sex taunt, fucking cosmetic crate and make it an active item slot like the contracker and Canteen so you can have 3 hats on your Fempyro with multiple styles
Everyone will ve too busy fapping

>Do we know how many unusuals got unboxed that day?
Some user said ~10k unusuals were unboxed

they are doing the smart way
faggots should stop obsessing with these fucking retarded hats

>i'm not tradefag but you're horrible

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I'm out of the loop can I get a quick rundown?

Did people find a way to duplicate unusuals or something?

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>Actually giving a fuck about hats
I care more about random item drops to play classes differently. Because I actually enjoy playing the game.

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Some crate series got a 100% unusual unbox rate so people went to town

>casual servers filled with everyone wearing neon-lights

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This except make a new hat. The cheater's lament is its own special thing.

Enjoy getting your hats rolled back after having paid valve in market fees

Game got an update
Unusual drop rate was set to 100% on some crates
Anyone lost their shit and fun happened!

>i care about 0.01$ items drop
Are you retarded

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Valve don't give a flying fuck if tradefags leave. They are much more interested in making the thousands of players buy keys than please a handful of autists.

>demand for keys drop disgustingly after the 100k new unusuals
>no incentive to buy keys (1% chance for something everyone already has)
>valve ends up loosing business after only a small burst of income

go to college to blue collar retard, can't even economy kek

>I purely care about the gameplay
>But look at this sick glitched unusual I have, tradefags BTFO LOL

Yeah but they’re pixels they hold no real life value

I get what you're saying and you're not wrong but the more Valve ignores tradefags the more I like them

>part of the community = community
nice reading comprehension, VALVE wants to retain TRADERS, because they spend MONEY, not the WHOLE TF2 COMMUNITY, capiche?
>2 devs
Yay another nigger that doesn't understand how things work, devs switch all the time, there are 2 devs PERMANENTLY working on TF2, but artists, mappers and other devs will come help whenever it needs be
And it just so happens those few autists spend more on the game than thousands of players, and valve isn't a charity, retard

>>people who didn't capitalize on the bug get 2 ref as consolation
BASED

Unboxed 3 hats and I don't even want to wear them now.
I thought there would be a lot more people wearing fake unusuals in servers but instead I just saw no one wearing an unusual or maybe 2-3 people max.

based retard who thinks keys in the economy are actually used for unboxing

This but fuck the halo
People shouldn't be rewarded for doing absolutely fucking nothing, even the first halo was a stupid idea. People who missed the party would've bought unusuals or sold crates if they didn't, it's no use being salty afterwards that you missed the train and now you want some free handouts.

I didn't even have the right crates for the exploit.
Literally haven't played since 2011, but reinstalled just to go into matches and hear people like you bitch and moan.
It's hilarious.

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>(Not Tradable, Marketable, Usable in Crafting, or Gift Wrappable)
why do you have this, my 2 hats I unboxed only have not usable in crafting.

let everyone keep and trade the unboxed stuff
give me an unusual

>nice reading comprehension, VALVE wants to retain TRADERS, because they spend MONEY, not the WHOLE TF2 COMMUNITY, capiche?
Traders are infamous for hoarding more often than not. They rarely spend as they deal with trying to trade up with what they already have. You're more likely to have a poorfag by TF2 economic terms to spend money than a trader who has a decently sized backpack that constantly trades.
>Yay another nigger that doesn't understand how things work, devs switch all the time
>accuses anons of reading comprehension
>>game with the least amount of devs rotating into
What do you think rotating into means user? It's no secret on how Valve works you mong.

>valve makes a whoopsie
>gullible guy opens a crate
>oh cool, an unusual!
>he opens a second one
>wait wtf, a second unusual?
>realizes something is wrong
>reports about this to valve
>gets banned
some fucking justice, go suck a dick retard weeb

i feel dirty wearing mine but i still wear it anyways

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valve NEEDS us TRADERS
>we're the ones spending the most money
Can't wait until you fags get btfo in a day or two.

>exploit
>legally buying a crate and key and opening the crate with the key
Choose one, tradetranny

Give me a quick rundown, what happened.

According backpack.tf, my shit is worth $1,682.
And I say, let it all be made tradeable and marketable, the Jewconomy can eat shit.

Same here, I wonder what the difference is.
Though it does say non tradeable/marketable in the inventory tags through steam though.

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>It was an exploit
It's wasn't, keep seething.

Why would feel dirty about it you dumbass?

i got a few and i think the outfits i made for them work but then i realized in game that unless i'm looking at my player model in the corner of my screen nothing has changed. still made 20 bucks though.

>didnt unbox any unusuals
>just sold all of my crates for a cool 100 steambux

>muh keys are currency! their use does not affect the price at all!
Say hi to buds . I can tell you invested in Bitcoin btw.

>All this pepe and wojack cancer
I hate reddit

>Cause hatniggers represent the only profitable part of tf2
Nigga what? Traders sell their shit through third party sites and Valve sees none of it. Valve makes their money from TF2 through Mann Co (usually keys) and skimming 5% off Marketplace transactions, which tradefags never use for big transactions since 5% adds up the more money you're moving.

They have literally no reason to cater to tradefags beyond "they'd be sad that they're not the only kids with Unusuals anymore :("

Yeah I think I'm just going to sell them if we keep them and just buy a strange original or something useful.

there are barely any wojaks ITT wtf?

youtubemultiplier.com/5d3b1b986db36-its-not-unusual-to-crash-sometimes.php

CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY
>CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY
CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY
>CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY

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Are you blind to the pink wojack cancer from /biz/?
Also one is to many.

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>muh symbol of status
I've unboxed Unusuals in the past and I absolutely took to the Marketplace to get while the getting was good. Cause I wear Unusuals because I like the way they look.

Cope harder tradefag, your time is over, your identity is forfeit, all there's left to do is seethe and sizzle until the long sleep takes you.

>imagine being this much of a beta cuck that you get angry over the crash of the TF2 "economy"
Don't forget to swallow, you pussies

you just keep digging that hole huh, why exactly do you think keys are used as currency in the market?

i feel bad for the trade fags

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>tfw sold off my unusuals before this happened

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Back in my day Source skins was something you downloaded from FPSBanana and only you could see

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like 3 wojaks and 1 pepe in 340 replies, cmon dude

The ToS never that people never read, but accept will make Valve un-sueable no matter what their decision is on the solution.

This is literally why you never see any major cases in relation to video games outside of IPs.

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>feeling sorry for tradefags
Can't relate

>not being angry whenever something you own loses value
What a retard

>tradefags
>do their business via third party sites, ensuring Valve doesn't get a cut of the profits
>contributes nothing in terms of comp appeal
>contributes nothing in terms of spreading awareness of the game
>just contributes nothing
>doesn't even play the game
>occasionally one might buy some keys from the Mann Co Store
If I were Valve I'd give that demographic the bare minimum attention. Just cater enough to keep them buying keys but actual players should without a doubt be their priority.

They've said in the past the economy is a 100% community thing they want no part in and there's a reason for that. I wouldn't be shocked if they outright resented the trading community considering how much money they could be making if all exchanges had to go through the Marketplace rather than Paypal or backpack.tf

stop

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You're blind if you think it's just that many.
Also that's still to many.

Fuck off with your "value". It's all Valve's intellectual property. You are beyond stupid if you think you are in charge here.

the only logical answer to that question is literally an argument against your point. I don't even know what the fuck you're trying to imply or say. Just stick to shoving shit or whatever gay blue collar shit you do.

>the cope

>i feel dirty wearing mine
Don't be a cuck, enjoy your flashy imaginary hat

"Those who survive a long time on the hattlefield start to think they're invincible. I bet you do, too, Buddy."

"Can you see unusuals from here? What has unusuals given us? We're going to start over from scratch. That's what Crate 82 is for."

"It's time."

"Too bad, buddy. This twisted game needs to be reset. We'll start over from "zero" with Crate 82, and entrust the future to the next generation."

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Except I'm literally not a trader but ok retard

Why?

Its tribe mentality
Its okay when grug has smooth stone not when ugg have shiny rock

I still think you should've painted it Hot Pink and named it AAAAAAAAAAAA

>investing in pixels
LOL

Everyone voted with their wallet and decreed that virtual cosmetics will always promote interest and expenditures. A corporate dream scenario and grade A social experiment.

>tfw you will never have a heavy modded TF2 experience again like in 208-2010

Fuck pure servers and fuck w_models

most people payed a ton or traded for years for one
i just bought them for 3 dollars a pop

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the answer is cause of it's constant value, unboxing has never been a factor in keys being used as a currency so this wouldn't affect their demand. people don't trade for keys to unbox you fucking retard, they trade for keys because it's the most commonly accepted currency in the economy.

I can always repaint it and shit when I feel like it, paints dirt cheap and I got plenty of spare name and description tags. I might repaint it zephania's greed later though, fits better.

Make all uncrated unusuals from that day to have a specific low-mid tier unusual effect (such as multiple small tf2 logos flying around)
Y/N?

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7/26 the day everyone revealed how tsundere they were for unusuals
No one has any right to bitch about art style ever again

They only have Value on Steam, if you're a retard who wants to try an avenue where you get real money for them then go for it.

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I mean an easy solution would be to refund any money added through external means to purchase the items and reset the item servers entirely to a cache from before the update. That way nobody loses any actual money and nobody gets away with profiteering either.

>Unusuals lose their value
>Keys keep their value
Hey just trade for keys right now so you can be rich later and buy up all these cheaper unusuals user.Its a win/win for you.

>IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO BUY HATS FROM MARKETPLACE
>IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO POST "AAAAAAA" PINK WOJAK FACE
>BUT WHEN I SEE UNUSUAL HATS ON FREE TO PLAYS
>IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE ME CRY
>OH I WANNA DIE

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Orbiting Planets and Massed Flies for everyone

most trade sites let you send your money to pay pal

An easier solution would be to do nothing.

Unusuals were never the worst offenders. I'd argue shit like the Lime Green Banana is way worse than even the most garish unusual effect.

It would be easier but it looks like Valve don't wanna take an easy way out of this mess

It's a virtual hat. The fact that you DIDN'T spend years and hundreds/thousands of dollars acquiring a particle effect means you're smarter than the average fag.

jesus for someone who keeps trying to insinuate others are stupid or blue collar you sure are retarded. There are other things people trade for in this game besides unsuals you know, and again keys are used as the golden standard because their value is constant. a key isn't worth 8 ref or whatever it is because of unusuals, the unusual is worth x dollars because it's worth x amount of keys.

>Do nothing
>When they've already said this solution is only temporary

They'll have to make a solution. Anything to throw at the wall. Just so their precious piggy whales don't squeal for too long.

You see more unusuals than that one guy actually wearing a banana hat.

>changing the effect so tradebabbies don't feel insecure now that more people are in the special people's particles club
Fuck that. I paid money for Dead Presidents and Terror-Watt on my Unusuals, I'm not sacrificing that because some faggots who don't even play the game got triggered.

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>all the people who bought the plunger hat and plague doctor hats profit off their new "themed" unusuals

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Gdi I wish it had happened to CSGO

So many more normal shits and whales bank on that it would be funny to see them kill themselves

Yeah but they're not as hideous is what I'm saying.
They can be ugly sure, but I'd absolutely rather have a server of Dead Presidents and Burning Flames over Lime and Pink Bananas and fox pelts

They are people who actually bought those effects? You would think they would go for something higher than fucking massed flies

>implying Valve wants to refund the keys money they got from this goldrush
They will keep them untradeable and unmarketable and the few that glitch out and can be sold will be the bane of tradefags
Its a win-win:
>people who wanted unusuals for the sake of having one now got a few
>those who wanted a very specific combo brought it for pennies and now they are happy
>those who luck out and got a glitches unusual will get some money or hats
>cratefags got good loot and money from the party
>tradefags got they shit pushed for once
Everybody got something and there is no need to do anything else

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NOOOOOOOOO VALVE YOU MUST BAN THESE FUCKING CHEATERS THIS IS NOT FUCKING FAAAAAIIIIIR

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lock all threads and ban the posters

massed flies when paired with hats that fit the context actually go for more than most unusuals, same with other hats like electric particles around Pyro's lightbulb hat or the bubbling effect on any sea-related or pipe-smoking hat

>handing out a VAC ban for Valve's incompetence
yeah this seems pretty likely desu

>>people who didn't capitalize on the bug get 2 ref as consolation

wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/eb/Spy_kill_taunt_13.wav

>the only unusual I ever wanted is a gibus with flies for pic related
>doesnt exist and will never exist

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>Implying they're going to change the effects, delete the hats, or rollback purchases when people specifically put money in Steam just to buy specific Unusuals from the Marketplace
>Implying they're going to push out refunds when people who flipped the hats and crates already spent the money on games, their money going to non-Valve companies
>Implying they're going to tradeban anyone for literally just opening a crate or buying a hat from the Marketplace, two totally innocuous things Valve encourages players to so since they profit from it
They're either going to trade restrict the unusuals or literally do nothing. Those are the only two options that won't result in loads of complicated and expensive financial/legal troubles on Valve's end. If they restrict them, maybe they distribute a free event hat to everyone to say sorry.

Anything beyond this is wishful thinking by bitter tradetrannys.

>people actually deleted the unusuals they unboxed

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someone repurposed the old picking up gold frying pan meme into this, impressive

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>implying that's a bad thing

>I d-didnt earn it
>d-did I do good daddy Valve?
>c-can I h-have a cheaters lament now?

not a TF2 players since years, what happened?

A hug would be nice especially from Moni

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>mfw these same people are pushing for bans when they'll get flagged and banned along with everyone else

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Tf3

Replace glitched unusuals with crate and key.
For those who bought unusual on Steam market refund money
For those who bought unusual outside Steam market give them money back, Valve is rich and they should pay their own money for that mistake

Did I miss something?

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R-R-R-ROLLBACK

>inb4 flimsy class action

Imagine being this good of a goy. This must be some fucking mental illness

>For those who bought unusual on Steam market refund money
fuck off. so what you're saying is my key and money I used for a crate, is gone, because I sold the unusual to some retard? Think again, unless Valve wants the cheapest lawyers from NSW Australia knocking on their door.

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This and the cheaters lament for active people who didn't partake in it.

Basically there was a glitch that caused some crates to have a 100% of an unusual drop.

based and oldschoolpilled

MOMMY MOMMY THEY WANNA TAKE MY GLITCHED HAT AWAY PLEASE CALL YOUR LAWYER FRIEND YOU ALWAYS WRESTLE WITH WHEN DADDY'S NOT HOME I DON'T WANT THE RICH CHADS TO MAKE FUN OF MY TINY GIBUS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You sold unusual so you got money for unusual. I don't see a problem

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r8

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I miss shit like this youtube.com/watch?v=wEgjqcI03xw the Karate for sniper, some minor fixes like 4 barrel nade launcher, custom sounds like Killing Floor voices for the Pyro and sprays. Plus the whole W_models change makes everything in the game looks like pure dogshit.

I feel over the years TF2 became very sterile in whats lets you do

just like opening tf2 in text mode to get hats wasn't cheating either
it was literally a built-in function of the engine

The issue is that a lot of that money got spent on purchases for normal steam games. You can't refund that shit without major issues.

I never realized how good this combination is. We got a Fantasy L4D game, but we should have got a 40k TF2.

imagine not only thinking you deserve one, but wanting one, AND not having one.

>all those old touhou skins
>all those detailed/military-themed skins
>zombie models before they made official ones
>that one bear heavy model
>tons of fucking weapon replacements, only a fraction of which got re-uploaded to the steam workshop

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>all the mad traderfags ITT
holy shit
i didn't even get a hat out of this event because i went full 3AM retard and dumped my five #82s for $6.99 total on the market and even i'm not this mad

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these don't hold up.

>The ToS never that people never read, but accept will make Valve un-sueable no matter what their decision is on the solution.
ToS almost never holds up in court you dumb nigger, especially when legal tender is in the mix like it is now.

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>legal tender
Look at the cheater still using big words
Enjoy your vac ban

>For those who bought unusual on Steam market refund money
Well I added money to Steam specifically just to buy these hats so they better be ready to write me a check or mail me some cash.

OH GOD THAT IS HILARIOUS

9/10, caught me off guard how hard I chuckled

Gay as fuck but the description is based at the least

>buying anything cosmetic in a video game

>all that ponyfaggotry and femmodels
i miss custom client side stuff too but i certainly dont miss that shit lololololol

>legal tender
>big words
Traderfags confirmed for actual brainlets

Rollback around a week or two, then drop some kind of promotional item to mark the occasion, preferably not just for specific people like the Lament was seeing the shitshow that caused

Keep them tradeable but make "glitched" versions of the effects. Every few frames they have a glitch effect. Otherwise they are the same effect. Give them a special tag something like "Usuals". Trade trannies have a new thing to use their hat autism on and the rest get to keep their hats/give away or trade the ones they don't want. Everybody happy.

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Tell me how they'll rollback the games I already bought with my free tradecuck money.
Oh, you can't? That's too bad, little paypiggie :) OINK OINK

>pay for an unusual
>unusual you paid for is now something else for no reason
no

call it the traders lament, fixed, also the rest of the idea made by is retarded and i hate it, just rewind all the trading transactions for those who unboxed crates, easy

>Tradeniggers seething so hard they actually think a rollback is in any way feasible
Mmm yess this $5 unusual looks and feels so good on my Heavy loadout mmmm haha I haven't set foot in a trade server since 2011 yessss continue to cope the tears are so scrumptious mmmm haha yesss

by killing the game entirely since valve is too fucking lazy to fix any serious problem the game has
its gone to complete and total shit since meet your match and is so unbelievably unfun to play nowadays

>these people thinking valve will roll back the market and trades
the whole weekend has passed
if they were gonna roll back anything, they would have done it the day they fixed the exploit
face the facts tradeniggers, those hats ain't going nowhere

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What, you want to reward people for abusing a glitch/exploit then?

>pay for an unusual
>unusual you paid for is now untradable for no reason
no

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This.
Cope all you want, tradetrannys. It ain't happening. At worst they'll be made untradeable, in which case
>Oh no, I'm not allowed to get rid of that thing I wanted to own!

I mean, what kind of supreme mongoloid would invest actual money in an imaginary hat they didn't even want to keep? :^)

I heard that if a hat was listed on marketplace during the "ban"wave it remained tradable.

>abusing an exploit
>legally purchasing items off the Steam Marketplace for the posted price and/or legally purchasing keys and opening Mann Co crates
Choose one, assuming you actually are that retarded and this isn't just bait. It's not the consumer's problem that Valve happened to change the distribution ratios. Everything else functioned exactly as intended, aside from the element Valve themselves changed.

I think b4nny bought 100 1-8 crates and deleted them.

They hold value if you've paid money for them.
That's literally the definition of value.

>go to casino
>start playing slots
>casino's slot machines break, allowing you to win lots of chips
>some tard fucker sees you winning when all they've done is sunk down thousands of dollars for nothing
>HEY STOP THAT YOU'RE CHEATING STOP EXPLOITING OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOOOO
Valve shouldn't do anything except fire whoever fucked up. This is entirely on them. Stop being a salty faggot, you shouldn't have been trying to make money off a fucking video game in the first place. Real adults bet on something that isn't as volatile as bipolar teenager, like the stock market.

Ironically casinos regularly refuse to pay jackpots even to people who play legitimately, because they claim the machine was broken or some shit

That's a terrible example. If something like that happened at a casino (which it has) the casino would demand that you return the money and take legal action (and win) if you didn't.

As angry as I am for missing this, seeing all the angry, anally decimated fags who scammed their way to the top to get their overpriced shit be shown up by random dudes who got free sparkles makes it so worth it.
As someone who owns and used to trade unusuals, go fuck yourself if you actually are hating on the people who got to exploit it. You're just mad like I am that you didn't get the chance to do the same.

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Why would anyone want an unusual now? Their only appeal was being rare. I genuinely don't get people who are happy they got an unusual, they are worthless now

Same with Max heads. They are all fucking ugly, people only wear them to look rich

Except in this case the machine didn't even break down. The machine functioned perfectly. A more apt metaphor would be if you had a store host a promotion where every purchase came with a free $100 gift card. And then 24 hours later a corporate rep comes in all "wait wait stop we had Garry the intern make the announcement and he fucked up, only 1 out of every 100 purchase was supposed to get the voucher". But everyone's already put their money down and collected their prize so unfucking it all is a sticky situation for said corproate rep.

Functionally the crates and Market worked just fine. The only difference is Valve changed 1% to 100%. None of the consumers "exploited" anything. They purchased keys and crates as usual, they simply had added incentive to do so because Valve changed the output. They bought Unusuals off the marketplace because the listed price had plummeted and thus made them affordable.

As a consumer, it's not MY problem that Valve fucked up and typed the wrong number, both legally and ethically. Anyone calling this "cheating" is just bitter that they missed out or that they're not one of the special people anymore because literally everyone has an unusual now.

I like how mine look and they've got the added bonus of making tradecucks seethe in real time

unusual weapons are gonna be the new unusual hats

Unironically this. Unusuals haven't been rare or impressive in years, there's a few in every match you play even before the market crash.

Unusual weapons are truly fucking rare, I've only ever seen a handful since they were added.

>MUH ECONOMY
>MUH HATS
i really miss old tf2

on one hand i WOULD like to be able to make some dosh off of the guaranteed unusuals i unboxed it was only two worth about $80 in total now that the economy has started to stabilize

but i would much rather see so many buttassed traders writhe in agony because their precious digital hats and the thousands of hours and dollars put into the market have become worthless overnight.

so long as TF2 keeps going i'll have a reason to keep the hats. if they're tradebanned then it's not really a huge deal (since i only put $5 worth of keys into it)

and they look really nice
wish valve would make new ones available

This crash has been the most old TF2 vibes I've felt in years. Once you get past all the seething traders it's just loads of people rediscovering the game and saying "ooh that hat looks cool on my guy" and enjoying the actual game rather than the BUY/SELL ratrace

>Keep the unusuals non-tradable
or
>Give all unusual's uncrated that day a 99% chance to be reverted into a normal hat

>he bought

That might actually make the ill-gotten unusuals more coveted than the real ones.

And how many of those are botters, traders, idlers, or farmers? Those stats you're referencing doesn't show how many people are actually playing the game, only those who have the game open and running. I'm willing to bet the actual amount of players is around half or less.

>or
>>Give all unusual's uncrated that day a 99% chance to be reverted into a normal hat

>after people already spent the money
Nah

>>people who sold the crates are tradebanned
>getting banned because some retard willingly gave you their money for a crate
imagine being this delusional from constant seething

Only other alternative is to remove all the hats and refund key purchases in monopoly money, Tradewhales can suck a dick if they were stupid enough to buy unusuals when it was very fucking obvious what was happening.

what do i name it Yea Forums?

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I Uncrated aaout 20 unusuals that morning.
I say just make them all untradeable. Econemy stays the same, which is still shit anyways, and everyone keeps their hats.

Or change all their effects to something completely different, an effect only for those opened on that day. Shouldn't effect the economy because it's a different effect, Nd doesn't inflate the prices of those that were already there

Peak zoomer post

They could easily refund all money to people's paypals/banks

Do nothing. People speculating on a children's video game should probably stop anyway.

>I say just make them all untradeable. Econemy stays the same
Untradable or not, some hats existing more means they're less sought after & makes them less valuable

>r change all their effects to something completely different, an effect only for those opened on that day. Shouldn't effect the economy because it's a different effect,
Good job, you've just given everyone a hyper rare, new unusual effect

>All unusual effects changed to Massed Flies

>All unusual effects changed to Dead Presidents + burning flames on top of the bills

Call it Market Crasher

Except for the purchases that went to gamedevs, you moron. If Valve refunds any of the money that went to game purchases it'll be a massive fucking shitstorm. Not to mention the refunds you described still violate CPLs.

>go to casino
>win ten thousand bucks
>"Sorry sir, we have to take that, but we will refund your quarter"

Again, I put money on Steam for the express purpose of buying those specific hats with those specific effects off the market. Valve is aware of this, hence the "add required funds" button.

If they're gonna roll it back (they're not, but let's humor the tradefags for a moment), I'll accept my refund in actual non-Steam exclusive money, same as it was before I made the purchase. Otherwise they can go screw.

More like
>go to casino
>play every single slot machine
>win on every single slot machine
or
>buy 10 lottery tickets
>win the lottery 10 times

And it's exactly the same. Stay mad, tradenigger

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THE HATS BECAME UNTRADEABLE YOU FUCKING RETARDS
THE ISSUE IS ALREADY RESOLVED
STOP MAKING THESE THREADS

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>Valve is gonna get money back from the companies people bought games from on Steam so they can refund crate sales so they can roll back unusual sales so tradetrannys who don't even do their business on the Marketplace and who literally founded entire third party sites just to ensure Valve doesn't get a cut of the pie feel sad
Kek

>Or change all their effects to something completely different, an effect only for those opened on that day.
There are so many posts in this thread explaining why this can't and won't happen.

No they didn't retard

I genuinely think this "accident" was done by Valve deliberately to fuck over those sites.

give all the hats to me specifically

Broke
Woke

I absolutely love watching the high end traders losing his shit this hard. Fuck them all, they weren't even playing the game, even pootis friendly heavies in mariokart servers gave more input to the game that these retards

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If that's actually true then they're more based than I could have imagined

the hats are back to their original prices you idiot

I just had the perfect idea on how Valve could fix this while also causing maximum butthurt across the board.
Turn every single bug-uncrated hat into a hat unusualifier of the type that was given, with the condition that the unusualifier cannot be used on the same hat it was.

Mine will be tradable on aug 2, but that's not what untradable means. Expect prices to drop greatly on august 2, when the dozens of hats become tradable after unboxing

>T-they're gonna roll it back... They HAVE to roll it back. They can't just... l-let them KEEP their Unusuals... They didn't even EARN them! They're not worthy of such a sign of status!
>M-massed flies. T-they're gonna change ALL the effects to massed flies! Because they smell, s-smelly smelly CHEATERS! T-they CHEATED! They CHEATED CHEATED CHEATED AND IT MAKES ME SO MAD MAD MADrrrrrRRRRREEEEEE
>M-monday is coming, and they're gonna fix it. M-muh investments will be s-safe, they'll delete all the unclean hats, and they'll give me a CHEATERS LAMENT. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GOOD. I'VE BEEN SUCH A GOOD GOOD BOY JUST THE BESTEST GOODEST BOY. IT'S MY TURN, I WIN THEY LOSE ME ME ME.
>I-it HAS to happen this way... It's g-GOING to happen this way...
>if it doesn't I... I d-don't know how I'll... rrrr.... rrrRRRRREEEEEEEEE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>mark laidlaw releases his ending to half life story
>quits valve

>TF2 dev makes crates drop only unusuals
>quits/fire from valve

could this be a tf2 team farewell in some form?

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there is like two people working on tf2
i shit you not

It was someone trying to make a quick buck that backfired hard.
or it was a mistake in messing with the values on the mvm rewards.
You take your pick.

>literally every Team Captain in existence becomes Unusual
Part of me would miss the new hats I've bought, but the other part of me would relish the possible horrors this would wreak on the recovering economy.

>tfw I could apply my Dead Presidents unusualifier on my White Russian to get my dream unusual
>tfw I would name it "WHERE'S THE MONEY, LEBOWSKI?"

I heard it was a skeleton crew ranging from like 2 or 3 at minimum up to 15, depending on what had to be done on a given day.

So honestly not as bad as it could be.

>tradefags literally think this
Guess what gay nigger, mine are only uncraftable, and you will never get a cheaters lament. ;^).

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