When did you realize that pic related is the best game of its genre in the past 20 years?
When did you realize that pic related is the best game of its genre in the past 20 years?
>best game of its genre
It is currently
>in the past 20 years
Street Fighter 3rd Strike would beg to differ, and so would Street Fighter 4.
>not even the best fighting game series
I got a hard for some reason
> Rage art
Haha no
No
>TMM
invalid opinion
Why are Tekkenfags so insecure?
OP, do you even play or are you just shitposting?
Why is it that certain people flip the bird so flaccidly? Like how is it possible that its so fucking cringey when I see this fucker do it?
Don't forget about this.
Nice joke OP
Third Strike came out 30 years ago user.
Actually 20
Im terrible at the game so you're fuckin wrong op
actually 97
Gitgud. Rage art is a noobtrap for both victim and user
king looks different for some reason
What fighting games do you play? Surely there's no out of context webm you can post to make them look bad right?
that's a funny way to spell guilty gear xx
The original version?
my favorite one of that trifecta is the paul vs nina scene because it shows that he doesn't understand tekken mechanics at all.
Most fighting games are either so obtuse they're not fun at a casual level or so casualized they're not fun at a serious level. 3D fighters are the exception and that's why they're the best ones.
It's not even the best Tekken game you early '17er
>Liking a video game is being insecure
Back to /fgg/ buddy
The only one that comes close is 5. 1-3 and Tag 1 have aged poorly (but are still fun casually) and 4-6 and Tag 2 are kuso trash.
>currently
I mean, it doesn't even have a combo challenge or a real tutorial. So no.
>last 20 years
Not even close.
>Whaaaa mommy I need a tutorial to hold my hand because my peanut brain can't comprehend playing in 3 dimensions
Season 3 is gonna have Tifa and Jotaro Kujo. Screenshot this.
Cope.
There's nothing wrong with combo challenges. You either save time watching videos on the internet or you do it in the game itself.
>can't even pass SFV numbers at EVO
lol I don't think so
Or you learn them by experimenting in game like we did for the 25 years before Millenial Fighter 4 spoiled this soft ass new generation. You should be grateful you even have training mode.
>Jotaro Kujo
>Epik punchy man with detached hitbox
Fuck off, a million times worse than Noctis since Jotaro doesn't even know more than 2 moves.
Guess who gets the main event slot though?
What moves did Negan show on TWD?
>He's never played the MANY different fighting games Jotaro is in with a complete playable moveset
Most fucking retarded post of the decade. Hats off to you, downy. Outstanding.
It's typical /fgg/ bullshit, people posting out of context gimmicks without understanding what they just watched. The equivalent would be posting R. Mika charging up her v-skill then killing them with one command grab.
>I don't actually play Jojo games, I just invest in the memes.
Ahh yes, Ora, Timestop, the heavy punch that's already in ora, Ora-ing longer, and timestop into Ora.
Also where's the defense for the detached hitbox bs?
if Geese and Jin escape nerfs in season 3 then i really dont know what can stop them...
Geese is obv way stronger than Jin and the bottom shitters like Ana and Lars need buffs
>Star Finger
>The inhale he does against Abdul's flames
>The catch he does to the bullet at the beginning of the manga
>The ability to phase through shit
>All the shit Jotaro does with his bare hands against Kakyoin
>All the extra shit they made up for HTTF, ASB, EOH and the Jump games on DS.
You've never read Jojo in your fucking life.
>Jotaro doesn't even know more than 2 moves.
>has been in multiple fighting games and has a robust set of moves to chose from
>Negan, a guy that just swings a bat and hasnt been in any fighting games, gets a full moveset
You have to be fucking kidding at this point.
I would prefer Joseph to show up.
I hope you're referring to the PSP version because 5.0 was literally the worst in the series
If you knew anything about Jojo at all you'd know that the stand taking damage hurts the user too you dumb fuck
>Star Finger
Barely viable in the Capcom and outright retconned/forgotten in later fights and Part 4
>Not a fighting move
>Ditto
>Ditto
>Ditto
>Can't even elaborate (and HTTF is an objective lie.)
Probably didn't join the community until the part 3 anime showed up like the defensive sheep you are.
>Doesn't actually argue anything
>Still can't defend why epik punching spam by trying to deflect it to Negan
At the very least, Negan has the grounded aspect of being an armed street fighter. If there's one thing people totally want in Tekken, it's detached vacuum hit projectiles, novice pandering hitboxes, and extreme meter reliance.
>T-that doesn't count!
Keep moving those goalposts you stupid faggot. You didn't even know that hitting the stand hurts the user, even the HTTF secondaries know that shit because it''s a game mechanic. Holy shit please stop.
You said he doesnt have moves to chose from, yet there's already established FIGHTING GAMES with him in it, and he has multiple moves in each one.
So what is it, does he have moves, or doesn't he? May i remind you were using real facts here and not "b-but all ive seen him do is punches".
unlike you retarded aris dickriders I actually played fighting games before.
Tekken sucks.
>Doesn't recognize the infinite learning curve of tekken
Sad!
>actual tournament play
>comparable to rmika getting a full charge
YOU dont know what you're talking about.
What fighting moves did Gon have before they put him in Tekken 3?
The only one of those from a tournament is the Super Akouma one and there's literally nothing wrong with what happens in that clip.
>there's nothing wrong with 99% combos
this game is awful man.
there's marvel games that arent that dumb.
>Uses all of his resources on a situational combo
Was a fair play bro
Explain to me what is wrong with that clip. Running a magic pixel comeback in fucking Tekken is one of the hardest things to do with any character. Before you pull some "b-but Akuma" bullshit it was possible and even easier in the last few games because rage was busted and bound existed. Meanwhile you have shit mechanics like vtrigger, xfactor, krushing blow and sparking that let you make those comebacks for free without spending any meter.
>You don't even know the stan-
Nigger, you're just proving you know literally nothing about most 3D fighters if you think any accurate SP is gonna be easily punishable, or at least a immediate play nightmare. They had to nerf the hell out of Akuma when he was too 2D accurate.
Hey Jojoker, your goalpost is proving why Jotaro would even be a good choice over anything in the first place. You're just whiteknighting a fictional character out of pure autism otherwise. Even among Jojo itself (like Joseph or Jolyne who's combat is actually inventive).
>My new argument is "what about the joke dinosaur character".
you are trying to defend a 99% damage combo lmao.
>One of if not the hardest combo in the game
>With only 1 hp which adds rage bonus damage and makes the rage art deal more damage
>With 2 bars of meter
>With the exact perfect distance to go from wall to wall for the wallsplat bonus damage
>And he still would have lost if the guy had pressed 4 instead of d+3
this is quite literally a one in a million scenario and if you believe that it is an accurate represention of what Tekken is like you're so retarded that I'm glad you're not playing it and shitting up the playerbase
Name one fighting game where dumping all your resources doesn't give you gigantic damage. Just one.
Jotaro is perfect fighting game material.
Not for Tekken though, that game is too limited/stupid.
>Jojo only has a small amount of moves
>Actually, he has a lot of moves across multiple games and other digital mediums, and Tekken has been able to do more with less (Negan)
>Uh quit moving goalpost
You are too stupid to have a discussion with, and you get defensive insanely easily. Have fun and stay in 3rd Dan where you belong.
most fighting games dont give you that much damage with full resources. thats a fact.
yes I know that Tekken is a shit comeback mechanic game for brainlets. you have multiple fucking comeback mechanics chained together there. its trash.
also jesus christ man thats not a hard combo you Tekken faggots dont know shit.
>>Doesn't recognize the infinite learning curve of tekken
>Sad!
It's artificial 'depth'. Autistic framedata memorization instead of actual footsies and neutral.
>Autistic framedata memorization
So, SFV?
you always hear tekken apologists claim that but it gets used in tournament play all the time.
you dont even play tekken.
yeah great cherrypick.
kof13 is awful too. that shit died for a reason.
>Is proven wrong
>"That doesn't count"
retard
i like tekken
based
me too.
>Actually he has lots of moves
>That I won't elaborate whatsoever.
>That I will not tell you whatsoever
>That I haven't even linked a moveset video over
youtube.com
What are these unique fighting moves you're pretending he has?
>but he has a jumping kick and crouch punch!
Which is immediately just combo'd into oraing but slowly.
>But then boxing is just oraing
None of the moves outside the gut punch and overhead get any individual use from Ora.
And even then, it's just to delay the Ora.
>Cherrypick
Okay how about Vergil sword loops in UMVC3?
How about season 2 Balrog v-trigger comebacks off a single low?
How about Cvs2 A-groove Bison/Sakura?
How did he prove me wrong? He said it was something that only happens in Tekken and I posted video evidence of it happening in another game.
>you are trying to defend a 99% damage combo
Normally I would agree, in DBFZ it's a problem because almost all combos are TODs.
The difference here is that in Tekken pulling of those combos is legitimately hard.
Ask any pro or any high ranking Tekken player or anyone FGC and they'll tell you that Tekken is the hardest fighting game in terms of inputs.
In fighterz you can TOD nearly anywhere in the screen so long as you have at least 3-4 bars.
In Tekken to do a TOD depending on character, you need meter, rage and have the correct positioning because every map only has certain spots that you can kill off of, and good luck trying to TOD without wall breaks or falling stages.
There's a reason why in high level Tekken play you don't see too many TODs
Also
>lol you got defensive, I won
Do you have a lot of twitter arguments sir?
Aris army is here, i will stick with 5 the better game.
you fucking idiot I say most and you list three games.
Oh, yeah, these combos that are piss easy to do and also totally not circumstancial
Fucking greenlets don't get a say in Tekken
>The difference here is that in Tekken pulling of those combos is legitimately hard.
lmao
How can someone be so fucking wrong
How can you fucking seriously claim that 5 os better than 7 without reasoning to nostalgiafagging
And I can name more.
>Literally every Marvel game
>Literally every KoF game
>Street Fighter 4 Evil Ryu
>AC+R Sol clean hit combos
>Xrd Raven max excitement combos
>BBCF Susanoo with all unlocks
>VF5 Akira counterhit confirms
>Samsho 3 infinites
Try playing fighting games instead of getting your opinions from Youtube videos.
youtube.com
5:35
He already has more moves than Negan did before he was in Tekken, even if its just 5 moves, and you're telling me they cant find inspiration to make more? Jesus fucking christ.
I didn't I said it was the only one that comes close. Tekken 7 is the best game in the series and the only people that claim otherwise are casual fags who want their quirky single player filler modes.
It has them, all characters have a fucking sample combo
Also the fucking story mode is the tutorial because it teaches you how to deal with side stepping, fireballs, low, mids, Rage Drives and Rage Arts
>two demonflips, two FADCs and a demon
>hard
1. So people can hurt stands or is that merely in vs threads now? (Though of course I'm just ribbing)
2 The Real Point. To be accurate to literally any of the games or the anime, he has pretty unreactable hits for Tekken's average frame startup.
I mean that other tard, I just didn't wanna give him the (You)
Some sacrifice is going to be made for the sake of game balance. The rest of the cast in the Jump games (and non stand users in the Jojo game) shouldn't even be able to see Star Platinum but that would be retarded so they can still hit him like anyone else.
still not most you dumb tekken brainlet.
and I know for a fact that evil ryu cant take off 99% with any combo.
Of course the Yea Forums shitposter is the better player of Tekken, better than people that literally live off of playing the damn game
Yeah Tekken TODs barely exist. Have to have rage and perfect wall/floor break setups. They're basically memes.
you are using some other people as a proxy for real arguments.
unironically the only thing impressive in that akuma clip is the low parry at the end.
Chikurin literally ran into that shit bcs he got greedy and wanted to close the round TWICE. the last low kick was such an obvious mistake.
Jins only real weakness is his range on jabs and Chikurin kept using them which is why this opening even happend in the first place as well. fk off you shitter.
>Tekken 7 is the best
Not with that story, music, lack of tutorial and roster that Tag 2 has better
Whatever you say, greenlet
>talk about the 99% combo
>hurr the lowkick after it
tekken brainlet
Tekken inputs are objectively the hardest in terms execution:shorter #inputs.
For example characters have a 2 hit 4,2 string, or a 3,1 but to actually input isn't just 4 then 2 like in Jive or GG, you have to immediately input the 2 so fast that it's almost a simultaneous input without just pushing both down together.
The fact that you can have rapid inputs coupled with delayed inputs, and dashing while also delaying the attacks to not input the dash or forward version makes a combo incredibly difficult.
Not only that, but unless you're playing someone who never blocks, you're almost never going to be getting any long combos to begin with because most starters are unsafe to go in because most good starters are 13+frames.
Again, why do you think high level Tekken play has so few TODs?
>Last Blade 2 speed mode infinites
>World Heroes Perfect Hanzo infinite
>3S Makoto counterhit combos
>ST Bison redizzy into super
>BBTag cross combo TODs
>SC4 Hilda ringout setups
How long do you want to keep moving the goalposts? Aren't you getting bored of being proven wrong and screaming like a child?
>Story
Which Tag 2 lacks
>Music
Made irrelevant by jukebox mode
>Roster
>Implying every Tekken character people give a shit about isn't in the game already
t.Kunifag
>Tag 2
>Story
>Actually caring about the story in a fighting game
No wonder why you people are complaining about the combos, you fucking shitters only want pantsu pantsu festivals
>Tekken inputs are objectively the hardest in terms execution
fucking hell man
By your logic we should have never moved past PS1 because you grew up with it.
Let's take away online play too since that was never a thing.
>Tekken every-character-has-an-infinite-edition
>better
kill yourself retard
Gottem, Arisfags are so easy to trigger.
Dude, you wasted your time explaining Tekken to a guy that has no interest and learning it and actually believes he can beat everybody because "lol Tekken is easy"
None of the faggots that claim that are above green
>Even if it's just 5 moves
If you can call those even practical to apply to a 3D fighter at that?
Also why are you so desperate to alter my argument to me being a Negan defender?
The one who should be saying Jesus Christ is me?
>story
Stopped reading
I don't care about that, cope.
Name one fighting game with a more difficult input setup
why are you taking about ranks when namco destroyed the rank system allowing absolutely everybody to climb easily?
its almost like tekken faggots in these threads dont play their own game
Ebin my friend, have some reddit gold
I hope your life is better by shitposting and trolling, it sure will pay off good in the next few years
So why aren't you rank 1 making money winning tourneys then? Or streaming high level making money off that? Tekken is easy right?
Because Negan is a good example of making lemonade out of lemons, but apparently context is difficult.
Of course a greenlet wouldn't care about the ranking system
well considering how it was already mentioned in this thread: jojos.
>It's good because I don't care that it's literally the worst
holy shit please throw yourself off a cliff
>combos are the only thing that matter in a fighting game
tekken brainlet
I like and play Tekken 7, but for the most part it has easier execution then most games
>that doesnt count post
just give up man..
but this thread told me that its a good thing when tekken games have infinites :^)
Tekchad here, you're retarded. Tekken barely has TODs because combos cap out around 70~ damage due to screw. You need rage and a perfect wall setup to come remotely close to a TOD, and even then the vast majority of the cast can't unless they have some dumbass additional mechanic like Geese or Akuma.
>Tekken
>a game where you juggle and bounce with fucking baby slaps
LMAO dude, just play Paul. Solid A tier character that has easy execution requirements, solid all around buttons and advantage, and even a 14f launcher.
>gets btfo
>"ahaha I w-w-was j-just trolling I'm not retarded I s-s-s-swear"
If Jin is so good, why doesn't he win tournaments? He's supposedly top tier/top 5, has "every tool in the game and more" and yet he still cannot win a tournament despite season 2 buffs. Meanwhile a fucking bear player won TWT.
>anti-tekkenfag at it again.
Cringe
Basic juggle combos are pretty fucking easy but I don’t think you can say tekken as easier execution when it requires exponentially more effort to simply move in tekken than other games
>The worst
Someone has not played 4, little knowledge i see
It's the only the bloody roar user, you finally see that?
Tekken 4 had merit on account of its novelty. 5 was just bad
not only
I've always loved tekken and with this one I'm going to have to vs the fgc at locals and practically 3/4 of them in Sydney are cringey memer fucks who holler like monkeys at anything they can and use buzzwords they copy from America like salty, no round brown, blue stuff, etc.
I don't want to hang around these people.
>That doesn't count post
>Not a fighting move
>Aka saying the move literally has no application in a 3D fighter without you elaborating on it = Nuh-uh
Of course.
>The context of Negan being an armed street fighter vs a character that solely is based around linking into the same lightning fast combo even in his source material.
And we're back to square one. Great circular argument.
>TEKKEN IS REALLY EASY TO PLAY
>COMBOS ARE PRETTY EASY
>THAT'S WHY HIGH LEVEL HAS SO MANY DROPPED COMBOS AND SO FEW TODS
>IM ALSO HIGH LEVEL AND BETTER THAN PROS THATS WHY ONLY I CAN PULL OFF 10 HIT COMBOS AT 100% SUCCESS RATE AND ALWAYS GET TODS
Ignore faggots and just watch who JDCR, Arslan Ash, Knee and Qudans uses.
Why is Yea Forums pretending that they're better than Tekken pros?
Someone does not remember that 4 was bad to the point the competitive scene returned back to Tag 1, 5 was good enough to bring them back in, but char. like Steve needed nerfs.
S Makoto counterhit combos
3s doesn't even have counter hits
If you unironically drop combos with Paul outside of off axis fuckery you should probably just not play fighting games. At high levels its mostly confirms and movement that is the thing people drop the ball on, not combos.
Fuck youre right we did go in a circle
Holy shit nigger, did you unironically say
>every universe regardless of the average supernatural awareness and ability can't touch stands
?
And
>Some sacrifice
If SP has to be throwing haymakers as slow as Steve, what makes adding in Jojo not like the
This. Usually the pressure is on AFTER you launch to input the optimal combo properly. With Paul the second your launcher hits you can breath a big sigh of relief, close your eyes and let a poorly trained Labrador walk on your controller for the rest of the optimal combo.
t7 is godlike but I'm really enjoying SFV right now. They added fuckin sagat.
whats it like being a pathetic strawman who is bad at fighting games
Should I buy a Hitbox? I'm too casual to do KBD the real way.
>Kasumi, AK, Geese and Devil Jin
just put regular Jin out of his misery already
>When did you realize that pic related is the best game of its genre
Kusoge?
>really love Tekken
>live too far away from society to get good connections in ranked
sucks
get, bets those C'mon in
Goddamn Geese is such a sick character. I don't even care if it doesn't make sense, I want him in every new Tekken game from now on.
eerf tner
Do you play on Stick?
I play using hitbox and I wish I learnt stick. I can easilly do blue spar kks with any character that can but my movement is crippled. Wave dashing or kbd requires fingers from both hands and negative inputs. I can't even electric out of wavedash because it feels so janky. It would of been much simpler to learn stick properly.
Based Armor King. I hope JDCR doesn't drop him, and finally beats Knee's Geese with him.
lili
True, that's why all the pros are playing him right?
Every single one right?
They love Panda, not Paul.
>Wave dashing or kbd requires fingers from both hands and negative inputs.
My understanding was that all it takes to kbd on hitbox is to press back, hold back, press down, release back, hold back, press down, release back, etc. Why would that take two hands? Or have I gotten it wrong?
When I played it.
Lars
>Those hips
Losing a round because of 1 (one) mistake is objectively bad game design.
I don't agree, I'd rather play GG. Tekken's still good though.
You do realize Akuma used FULL RESOURCES for that, right?
so what
So first off, the combo is only possible because he had full meter. It is not something he can do at any given time. A Street Fighter character builds their tools up with meter, this is typical of the franchise that he's from, but also ON TOP OF THAT, if you look at the timer, you will know that he was holding on to that meter for a majority of the match, which means this was a risk with high reward. He built meter. He used it all.
It is typical of fight games to give you big damage for this decision. If you think otherwise, you're a fucking scrub.
Who the fuck wants to play something with a low skill ceiling...? What the fuck is "fun at a casual level?" What does that look like even?
theoretically if Jotaro ever was added his Stand would literally serve as an extension of his own hitbox, that's how it works in the Capcom fighter and that's canonically how Stand's work anyways.
Are you retarded? Rage art can be used in combo.
Cope. Your game is shallow.
>most fighting games dont give you that much damage with full resources. thats a fact.
Excuse you, faggot? SFIII, SFIV, and SFV give you big damage. Any character with meter in Tekken 7 gives you big damage. Guilty Gear as a FRANCHISE or any other anime inspired follow-up such as BlazBlue.
What fucking shit are you playing that gives you resources that if used all at once doesn't lead to big damage? Can't be FighterZ, that's big damage with 5 bars of meter. SoulCalibur VI? Yeah, that's big damage. Samurai Shodown literally rewards you for this. KoF is built around the risk of this. What niche shit are you playing, son?
For on average 6 to 10 additional damage then the regular combo with rage, not including walls. Its unusual when doing launcher RA nets any more than that.
tekken has so much "just-frame" bullshit on some of their old decrepit characters that it's just ridiculous. EWGF and PEWGF are probably the easiest examples. that being said most mid-air combo's are probably the easiest fucking shit in the genre.
dont make a mistake then