Dishonored 3 should be about Overseers

Make the DLC non-canon then

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That's the dlc

>clockwork soldiers >> tallboys

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You know, as far as nonlethal goes, I'd rather just have a bludgeon or cane that did way less damage, but could block, counter-attack, and knock people out if you donk them on the head enough. But then, Dishonor 2 making nonlethal combat more difficult to pull off than just cutting bitches was kind of the point, I guess.

Leaving aside whether 1 or 2 is better, they both are way above the average AAA game quality and soul.
Why did it fail?

Clockwork soldiers were pretty based desu

Tallboys were boring to fight against. You either drop assassinated or shot them. With the bots, you can hack off limbs by targeting joints, blind them by shooting off their heads, or smash their back-plate for a kill. They also force you to approach stealth differently since they're only blind on their sides.

Lorewise though, you're correct.

I think 2 had optimization problems

2 has no soul though. It is inferior in every way except for non-lethal, which is the less fun playstyle anyway.
Anyway, immersive sims never sell well, no matter how good they are. The average shit eater doesn't have the attention span for them. See: Prey, Deus Ex HR, etc

Kinda like what they did with Dishonored 1 already so i can see that happen

2 had a pretty rough launch. Prey failed too because the marketing was weak, should have been called something else. Both are great games though. Also I would say its not a very popular genre nowadays, which is a shame

And yet they love shit like Skyrim or Fallout

2 had a really bad initial release, like many Arkane games.

I should clarify that I was speaking in terms of aesthetics. Clockwork soldiers were much more interesting in terms of gameplay mechanics, tallboys were too easy to kill once you figured out you can drop kill them

Dishonored should've been about a new character in a different city/country/continent. First major problem was reusing Corvo/Emily when their story was done.

Playing as Corvo again was pretty naissu, I missed him

Are you the guy with that idea about powers based on the Seven Strictures?

>Deus Ex HR
This is actually a shit game and should not be lumped in with Prey or Dishonored

2 has plenty of soul. In fact, I'd say that the level's and their variety was better than the first game. Like Jindosh's and Stilton's mansion had great premises and were very fun levels. Furthermore, Dunwall was meant to feel like a grey and souless while Karnaca was meant to feel green and alive.

nope, but thats not a bad idea

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Anybody have any Dishonored reaction images? Never really see threads for this game
Haven't played it but I was just listing games from the genre that underperformed.

The Outsider is not an essential character and the DLC ended with them hinting that a new dark power would take over with his death

The last thing this world needs is more fucking prequels. Fuck off.

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They really did blow their load too early with that one. Lmao zoomer writers

A remake, then?

>the new dark power is Corvo
SOMEONE CONTACT ARKANE STUDIOS RIGHT NOW

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Dishonored made a nigger the protagonist its dead now
Arkane studios is SJW pandering now. Wolfenstein is their end

Pity (you)

He sure wasn't essential, he was only the main instigator behind the story of all the games and the source of black magic (the main gameplay gimmick of these games) in the setting.

I think he meant essential in a way there's absolutely no way to fill his role when he's gone

Stop talking out of your ass

Why is Dishonored 2 so badly optimized?

Well yeah obviously they can contrive up something new, but what was the fucking point of flushing all that worldbuilding down the toilet?

I too think the same as you, I loved the outsider

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For the record, I enjoyed The Outsider and I thought it would have been neat if he was the only constant throughout the series, giving powers to new heroes and villains that you'd play as.

Anyways, my point is just that the series is far from dead because they killed The Outsider. They said that with his death, it opened up the void for the taking of another entity. Hell, maybe that's what the third game would be about. There's still plenty of design space to take advantage of.

And story aside, Death of the Outsider was a very good game, eve if short

>There's still plenty of design space to take advantage of.

Yeah, a complete blank slate is obviously going to have a lot of free room to fill out. Thing is, they already had crafted a setting that lended itself to potential new games. Just pick whatever unexplored part of the world, come up with some conflict that the Outsider kickstarted by giving some asshole and you the mark, and go wild. Instead they threw everything in the bin.

Dishonored 2 utterly ruined all of the interesting worldbuilding that the first one and its expansions set up. They tried to shoehorn easy solutions to all the abstract mystical weirdness set up in 1's books and it just leaves the whole setting fucked up.

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The rest of the world still exists, though. Tyvia still exists. The novel about it was sick.

The first game was written by Looking Glass Studios veterans. The sequel was written by literal who women vetted by Anita Sarkeesian. Put two and two together.

I don't want another dishonored game
Not like D2 and Doto

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redpill me on the novel

!!! nani

Why didn't you like D2?

That'd make 22, Chief.

D2 and DotO were excellent in level design and gameplay though. They just actually need a competent writer and a decent plot and characters.

In the Knife of Dunwall DLC the outsider tells Daud that seven people bear his mark. The Empress's heart mentions that three vistors have been empresses (only 2 if you play as Corvo).
We know Daud, Corvo, Deliliah are 3 of the seven. Billie and Emily came after the above quote.
Who are the other four living Marked of the Outsider?

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That was back then, could have changed by DotO's time.

CONTACT ARKANE RIGHT NOW WE GOT OUR PLOT

>writer and a decent plot and characters
This is what makes or breaks the game for me.

If the story is fucking shit and the characters can't make up for it I'll just lose interest since gameplay alone can't hold me in the world.

It's just downright insulting after playing through Dishonored 1.

Dishonored 3 should be a new IP with similar gameplay since a lot of the problems 2 had likely would not have existed had the game not been a direct sequel.
Billie doesn't count, her powers come from Daud just like all of the other Whalers (and the torturer, and Delilah's witches).

I agree. They seemed to have set up potential in the second game when the sister faction to the Overseers was supposedly infiltrated/taken over by Delilah's girls. Being an Overseer and doing justice on people, while yourself being given powers by the Outsider or someone else and the dynamic between being an Overseer and going deeper into this new power.

The rest of the world might as well not exist once you take the Outsider out of the equation. Without him all you have is set dressing with no underpinning. The story isn't about the setting, it's about a DISHONORED individual being granted supernatural powers by a bored trickster deity to see how far they're willing to go to get back at those who DISHONORED them. No Outsider means no Dishonored. If you're going to kill the Outsider you might as well just come up with an entirely new story and IP afterwards, which is evidently what they've done since the series is "resting" (translation: shelved indefinitely).

You way over-estimate the need for The Outsider and way under-estimate the great world-building outside of him that has been set up in the series.
Also, while I do want a sequel, I don't want it to be a retread. I don't want yet another main character getting framed for something he didn't do, trying to get revenge and the kingdom back.

Hell, how about Dishonored 3 is about a Tyvian Overseer that gets dark powers through some void shenanigans and gets legitimately (and arguably justifiably) dishonored for that by the church?

>Hell, how about Dishonored 3 is about a Tyvian Overseer that gets dark powers through some void shenanigans and gets legitimately (and arguably justifiably) dishonored for that by the church?

No Outsider means no overseers

Dishonored 3 should be a live action remake of monster hause, but whit the clockwork mansion

They literally spell out that the void existed before the current Outsider in Dishonored fucking 2. Even before the DLC. You're just making shit up at this point. I get that you liked The Outsider, I did too, but give me a break.

Dishonored 3 should be a live action remake of monster hause, but whit the clockwork mansion

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>The primary goal of the Abbey is to stand against the Outsider

Hmmmst, really makes me think

>I get that you liked The Outsider
Honestly I think he's kind of boring BUT he was the crux of the story in these games so yeah

In D3 overseers will fight the Time traveling goddess Billie Lurk
It's gonna be a soft reboot without the Outsider/Mark isn't it
>200 years later....

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I'm sure Zenimax will eventually use the IP for a hot new mobile title

One of them is a guy called Zhukov, from the first novel.

Didn't that guy actually single-handedly craft the powers for himself without The Outsider's influence (through rune charms)? Been a while.

Yeah actually, you're right, he doesn't have it.
According to the wiki, Granny Rags has it though, and so does some random little kid.