Why was Yakuza 0 such a massive hit, especially in the West?

meme

Dude, they literally added a boss fight in the new DLC that's just Kiwami Majima.

it's the only good Yakuza game, that's why

It's a bit more overt in its quirkiness due to the flamboyant setting, plus a lot of YouTube channels made videos on it. It was also during a few-year period of apparent surge in popularity of jap shit, e.g. persona.

soul.
but Kiwami 2 is a little better in my opinion.

Because it was the least shit Yakuza game. And anyone who played it who went on to play the other entries couldn't believe how bad they usually are.

The god-tier combat

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It had built up a cult status until then and was a good entry point into the series.

Being the best one in the series also helps

>Contributing success of a game to a YouTube group that averages a quarter of a million YouTube viewers

That's still more people than the series had fans in the west before the 0-hype.

It was a genuinely good game. Shame the rest of the Yakuza games won't get the same treatment

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>Why was a movie game so popular in the west

Because Ben Moore pretended to be a fan of the series.

I suppose it's easier to gt into than the others. You can just jump right in with no prior experience.
It also helps that it's one of the best games in the series.

>movie game
More like mini-game collection

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Majima

i played 0-K2 over the span of 3 weeks and i don't want to touch another one for a very long time

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Yakuza sales were so low before 0 came out that very few people actually knew Yakuza games were dialog box simulators with garbage combat. They bought 0 and forced themselves to finish it and decided to never play another one, and the sales have been on a steady decline again ever since.

Maybe jump ahead to Y4

>The combat is garbag-

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You already played the best one. Yakuza is the series of diminishing returns. Kiwami is shit, 3 is shit, 4 and 5 are okay but there is a lot of tedium and story bullshit in them, and then 6 is fucking terrible. It's really not worth playing so many games which are all so long only for so little payoff. They're only really suitable for players who have literally absolutely nothing else in their lives.

You're lucky if you manage to finish even just 0 without getting bored. But remember, the others are all far worse.

look out user one of the bad guys who stood a mile away while you killed the others is coming towards you now that he's the last one alive

>he plays on easy difficulty
lmao@urlife

I've been playing through this recently and I feel like fighting mr shakedown is cheating, he gives so much more money than any other source in the game and so i feel like i end up overleveled, should i not be fighting him when i see him everytime?

It had decent marketing, unlike any other entry.

I don't get your problem. If you don't want money, don't fight him. If difficulty is your concern, just change the difficulty to hard in the settings.

oh yeah i forgot to mention he's incredibly fucking easy to fight, without using weapons or anything, since he does exactly 4 moves that are all easily reactable and avoidable

should i get 0 or kiwami 1?

the game is broken as fuck. just do whatever you want, it's not like you'll ever be underleveled enough for anything to be a challenge. the whole game is a cakewalk on any difficulty.

I dunno, it just feels like he's the only way to get the later upgrades in the trees, as everything else gives you maybe 20 million and the later upgrades cost hundreds of millions to billions. maybe i'm just spending too much time in the earlier chapters dicking around and money gets better later?

what he said applies to every difficulty if you don't equip the gank items

>I dunno, it just feels like he's the only way to get the later upgrades in the trees
Wat
There are 2 minigames in the game, designed to make you money. Kiryu with his property management shit can get 1 billion for each cycle (i.e. 60 seconds or something). Majima just whores out girls, he makes less money, but also needs less overall.

This looks retarded. The enemies are just standing there waiting for you to launch into them. Easiest shit I've ever seen.

Money is only a concern for upgrades and grinding tiger and dragon, if you don't want to make the game easier than it already is or don't care about 100% you can just skip it

>thing happened because of youtube
"No."

Why does it look so bad and blurry? What version is this?

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yea, but i haven't been diligently buying up the properties and endorsements, just grabbing them here and there other than the starting one to get the full blue tree for both of them. maybe i should just spend more time doing that.
yea, i suppose you're right. i do wanna do 100% though, i didn't do it with yakuza 1 or 2 so i wanna try it once and see

>cheap steam release
it was the most popular Yakuza even before Steam release was announced
>Super Best Friends Play (RIP)
they also did a LP of Yakuza 4

>god tier combat
>not a single attack performed by any of the 5 enemies for the entire duration of the clip
Great game bro

Well, this is accessible to the most retarded audience, hence the popularity.

Because it was a good game and was suited in the west waiting for a release of a Yakuza game after getting mostly ignored by Sega.

And you think the price didn't help the popularity? If Sega had published 0 for 60 bucks on Steam and PS4, it would've bombed, again.

JUST FUCKING RELEASE THE 3/4/5 REMASTERS ALREADY YOU CAPCOM FUCKS

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>the whole game is a cakewalk on any difficulty.
I just beat the game earlier today on hard.
No way you didn't find some of the bosses difficult.
Unless you just spammed healing items throughout each encounter.

They love movie "games" with shit combat in the west, why wouldn't they love this?

You can unlock a skill at the shrine to get more money after beating Mr Shakedown. So you beat him and take all his money, then lose, then keep repeating so you can afford all the 4th style upgrades and break the game.

Pretty sure it was $60 on PS4

ya-"there are literally no rules to combat and enemies will break out of combos based on whether they feel like it or not, among other issues"-kuza does not qualify as a game with good combat

>He fell for the 'movie game' meme
>He fell for the 'shit combat' meme

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Nope. Because it's technically a PS3 port (west didn't get that one), they sold it for 30 on PS4.

Get 0 first.

If you want to 100% you're gonna need a lot of free time and luck because a lot of minigames rely on RNGs, catfights and both of the casinos are the biggest offenders
If you want to grind money easily get the two Kiryu CP skills that gives you 1.5x more money from Shakedown, lose on purpose, beat him to get your money back with interests, rinse and repeat, by final chapter you'll be able to send all the money you farmed for to Majima

Stop posting these in every fucking thread you false-flagging autist.

I might have thought this was cool when I was 14. The idea that people in their 20s and 30s think this is cool just makes me assume they're autistic.

>In July 2016, the PlayStation Blog announced the game would hit stores in North America and Europe for the PS4 in January 2017. Labeled by PlayStation LifeStyle as the best in the series, Yakuza 0 will have a $59.99 price tag and is already available for digital pre-order.

Got this from searching about it.

>massive hit
Wut? Sales were decent but nothing compared to western AAA games. Its nice game, but too much fucking cutscenes.

I've noticed the rng yeah, the stuff you mentioned seems like it's going to be hell, but it's a fun game so i don't mind going for it.

The cutscenes are all so fucking long and slow. Dragged out and full of people repeating information we already know. It's torture. I just want to get back to the thrilling dialogue boxes.

gamespot.com/articles/yakuza-0-review-roundup/1100-6447082/
Says $60 here

start with 0, and if you like that move on to kiwami
kiwami and kiwami 2 are remakes of yakuza 1 and 2, kiwami is a drag to play through but necessary if you are interested in the story
kiwami 2 is on the new engine and much more enjoyable

i wouldn't recommend playing them back to back to back though

Then I'm wrong, sorry. Curse you mandela.

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What's the ultimate autistic fantasy? Walking down a street and guys starting fights with you (you don't start fights with them because you're the good guy at the end of the day) and then they form a big group and you beat the shit out of all of them effortlessly. They barely get a punch in. You even do cinematic takedowns that make you look cool. Then they thank you for it, they bow down and WORSHIP you and give you gifts as an apology for what they've done.
Then you go to a hotel where 20 women, who all look like the most beautiful famous women there are, incidentally, all really want you to spend time with them. Why? Because you're just so great.

Like what?

You're probably thinking of Kiwami, that was less than full price,

>(you don't start fights with them because you're the good guy at the end of the day)
reminds me of the substory where you do interfere because of misunderstandings

Also, Kiryu is a virgin. Women love him, but he's dense.

>kiwami and kiwami 2 are remakes of yakuza 1 and 2, kiwami is a drag to play through but necessary if you are interested in the story
Considering the story ends up going nowhere and even ends in a completely shit way that not only disappoints, but angers most people, why the fuck do people keep telling others to play bad games "to see the story"?

Kiwami is a shit game. Why play it for "the story" only to play several other shit games just for the reward of a terrible ending?

Play 0 and leave it there. Continue if you really really want to but remember things only get worse.

My ultimate autistic fantasy is a bunch of girls rubbing theirbdurty feet in my face

Because it was a prequel, young blood, and available on a console current gen owners had. It was a perfect place to start and it was about the fucking 1980's in an already neon lit Japan. It was a perfect storm. As a long time fan, watching Kiryu become old and visibly tired in 5, having to dumb boring shit like dance mini games and hunting mini games and all the prison shit, suddenly 20 year old Kiryu in 80's Japan was like "FUCK YES, THIS IS FUCKING FIRE HE IS SO ALIVE"

what's the problem?

This also explains why Kenka Bancho games did not become popular

I didn't play kiwami but i played the ps2 version, is the story that much different or do you just dislike it a lot? I didn't think the ps2 story was that bad, not incredbile or anything but it was fun enough.

>massive hit
realistically how much do you think this sold in the west

He's a yakuza hater who doesn't want anyone to see how awesome the games are

The bomb being a fake in 2 sums up perfectly why the writing in these games is terrible. Nothing ever actually matters or has consequence. Things happen just to have a melodramatic scene which ten minutes later doesn't even matter anymore. Kaz can be stabbed and left to die and then be back on his feet and fine 2 minutes later. These games are full of this shit. It's not even "twists" because that would mean things would have to be foreshadowed or at least still have consequence. But literally everything that you think is happening can be undone at any moment. RUBBER BULLETS is the most extreme example but the games are full of this garbage. It only annoys me because when people point out how shit the gameplay is they defend the games by saying "you idiot, you play for the story" but that makes no sense when they're written so badly.

Fighting Amon is canon and Kiryu has to fuck bitches to be able to fight Amon.

Because you're fucking shit at the game, and you aren't making a convincing case as to why the game would be fun to anyone.
Not that you're positively showing the game in any sense, and you're deliberately making anyone who likes Yakuza seem like a fucking smooth-brained mongoloid.

If you don't think those webms are awesome you're free to post your own. Lets see what you consider good yakuza combat, shitposter.

The game and all the special attacks are absolutely hilarious. You sound like a fag.

I bought it because it was the first non-PS2 entry you could jump into without having to know any of the backstory. I bet that had something to do with it

Substories are not canon. Period.

>Yea Forums hates Yakuza now
What the FUCK went wrong?

They released a clip of Majima's intro before the game came out and it sold me on it.

Why not? Kiryu makes reference to substories from past games all the time.

Because the games are mainly marketed to Fujoshi, and they have the same hangups about purity and virginity like Otaku.

youtube.com/watch?v=j3NAc6KPljc
This nigga is at least performing counters, grabs and other shit, and not just doing heat actions or basic as fuck square string combos.
I shouldn't even be fucking entertaining this.

It means it's popular now

That only explains why some people wouldn't want them to be canon, it doesn't make it true.

>some people
literally said by the director himself.

Alright boys, I'm like 3 chapters into Kiwami 2 and I'm wondering when Majima Saga will unlock. Is it soon?

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I really liked the one on PSP. Wish the 3DS one was translated. I just want a delinquent simulator.

Where does the director say side stories aren't canon because of fujos?

Around two more chapters.
It sucks that his moveset is gutted compared to his 0 incarnation, but oh well.

Majima saga is kino, watch it after ending the main game
is not worth replayable after finishing it

a lot of video games are written more badly than this
But you are right, somehow, i was disapointed with kiwami 2 scenario

After the main game? Fuck, if you say so.

I know the 3-5 remasters aren't out in the west, but what's the difference between them and the original PS4 versions? Is there any new content or is just the same game with slightly better graphics?

same games with slighty better graphics and problematic side quests removed

People played them

people said the combat is bad, but this example proved them all wrong. this video shows what players will actually experience while they play these games. thank you user.

>problematic sidequests
I'd like to hear more details about this.

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Eat shit user.
And damn me for taking that fucking obvious bait.

>Kazuma being shot and the wound vanishing right after he walks out of little Asia and rips his shirt off
He even held his shoulder in pain moments earlier

what's wrong?

60fps

He realised how dumb his own post was and got mad as fuck

god I am so hyped to play yakuza 3, a game I already know is shit and that I hate, at a higher framerate

stop dropping spoilers without the brackets you fkn mongrel

>people post batman webms
>LOL LOOK AT THAT COMPLETELY PASSIVE AI JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO BEAT THEM UP
>people post yakuza webm
>WOW GOTYAY AMAZING
i dont get it

People have been starving for a good Saint's Row game since 2. Yakuza simply delivered when 3 and 4 couldn't.

It's not a spoiler, because it doesn't matter, that's the point.
It's like a character running into a room and shouting HARUKA IS DEAD! SHE WAS HIT BY A TRUCK! and we get everyone's reactions and then two minutes later we find out she isn't dead, because it was a rubber truck. And nobody mentions it happening ever again.

It's not even the cutscenes that bother me (even though there are a lot and they're quite slow) it's the hours of conversations you have to sit through while character models stand around staring at each other blankly. There is literally hours of this, it's what you spend most your time doing. And by the time you're fighting the last boss, less than 0.00001% of them actually mattered. Sometimes I feel like Yakuza games are more like timesinks for people with absolutely nothing to do instead of games. They could all be great if they stripped back the tedium but it seems what most people want is 100 hours of "content" even if only 10 of them are enjoyable.

desu i didnt like yakuza 0 at first, then pledge of demon started rocking my speakers and i knew i would stay until the end

youtube.com/watch?v=JHQa1SA3EtI

Combat is admittedly the weakest aspect of Yakuza. It's all about the story and side missions.

Based

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This. Combat is shit, sure. But the games are really just VNs at the end of the day. Too many people don't know that going in and end up disappointed.

Yakuza 0 is set on the 80s, for some reason games set on the 80s are god tier, just look at vice city

>rubber truck
lmao

I have been mocked in the past for not getting emotional during some of "the great" films and tv shows out there. (I'm a little autistic) But Yakuza and anime can make me emotional because the writing is melodramatic and it's always very clear what I should be feeling. The music helps, but mostly I like that the characters all say clearly how they are feeling and what they are thinking. This helps me understand them and I can feel myself getting emotional from the sad parts.

I really do wonder what games people think have good combat, there's quite a few games that are considered great that get regularly called out for shit combat even thought it's definitely above average. Has no game so far released ever had good combat?

>SHOULD I START WITH 0 OR KIWAMI 1?
>WHICH GAME SHOULD I START WITH? DESPITE HAVING ONE NAMED FUCKING ZERO
>PS2 OR KIWAMI???
every
fucking
thread

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can someone recommend games with this kind of writing? the only thing i can think of is some VNs

well? which is it?

user everyone knows Yakuza's combat is absolute dogshit. This shouldn't be such a shock revelation that you now doubt good combat exists anywhere.

marketing

>SHOULD I PLAY THE GAME EVERYONE AGREES IS GOOD OR THE ONE EVERYONE AGREES IS SHIT?
Hmm it's a tough call I admit

>play Yakuza for the first time
>walk around a redlight district doing odd jobs for people while waiting for shit to hit the fan
>idealistic mc who sticks to his moral codex and will never budge an inch

I got major Gintama vibes.
Been wanting a Gintama Ryu Ga Gotoku game ever since. Especially after they made Hokuto Ga Gotoku.

shit that would fit really well
never ever

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>SHOULD I START WITH 0 OR KIWAMI 1?
>WHICH GAME SHOULD I START WITH? DESPITE HAVING ONE NAMED FUCKING ZERO
I think that's a legitimate question, even though they should learn how to use Google. For Ace Combat, the recommended order is AC5 and then Zero, even though it's not the chronological order.

>no DLC
>no Cash shop
>not epic games exclusive
>no gambling boxes.
It has a lot to like over the competition

It's too easy. You can be total shit at combat, take hits constantly and tank anything with healing items in main game.

right place right time. And that's it.

Yakuza fans spend most of their time trying to convince new people from playing the games these days

>constant complaints about games that are nothing but cutscenes with sparse, mediocre gameplay in between
>somehow yakuza gets a pass
You fuckers are so hypocritical jfc

uhh user didn't you see the video of the one specific fight being fought under specific circumstances and with a player created handicap? it proves the combat is good and you need to be very skilled to beat these games

It came out far enough away from the marketing blunder of Y1 on the PS2 and the painfully slow Y3 on PS3, coupled with the fact that it’s clearly a prequel meant most casuals or people curious about the series felt like it was finally their chance to pick it up.

Let me know when there's a Yakuza game with an hour long intro with no gameplay like that shit new God of War game, then maybe you'd have a point.

High quality game with an easy entry point being a prequel to the first game. One of the only games in the industry next to South Park with comedy being a main feature. A world and city with life and intrigue that other games wish they had the capabilities to make. Space Harrer, Super Hang On, Outrun, and Fantasy Zone are playable, as are many other mini games and poker games.

I'm not surprised, however, I would be surprised if Yakuza 6 sold as well as 0, since people want to catch up on other games before hopping in on that.

shut up goober

>with an hour long intro with no gameplay like that shit new God of War game
Are you retarded? Cutscenes last max 10 minutes between gameplay in GoW.

anons realized that if they pointed out flaws in the games that fanboys had literally no counterpoints and would have a meltdown rather than defend the games

uhh GoW doesn't have an hour long intro user
but yakuza 6 does

I never said gow was good retard, but it’s nonsensical to shit on it but then turn around and lap up yakuza garbage

>acknowledging some major flaws is hate
>what the FUCK went wrong
I don't know, maybe you were born retarded?

>substories based on the supporting cast
>going out gambling and getting blackout drunk with Hasegawa and running into him whenever he gets a new job only to end up wrecking everything and getting him fired
>running into Saachan and trying to shake her off
>substory with Zenzo and manga shenanigans
>secondary protag in Hijikata
>exploring Kabukicho and Yoshiwara

I don't understand either user, but they are enjoyable

>Let me know when there's a Yakuza game with an hour long intro with no gameplay like that shit new God of War game
Ok, Yakuza 0. It has more intro cutscenes than any GoW. What did I win?

1080p instead of 576p upscaled to 720p, or 720p in 5's case meaning you won't have that blurriness over everything. The games also all run at 60 FPS.
3 HD cuts out the Michiru quests and Answer x Answer and replaces the hostesses with new ones because they didn't get the license for the old ones again.
4 HD replaces Tanimura because of the whole drama surrounding him (Plus he's not an actor anymore) and two hostesses I think with the new ones they got for 3 HD.
5 HD I haven't heard of anything being changed.

Even with the Michiru cuts it got a 3 HD release would have more or less double the content if it got released in English compared to PS3 3.

shut the fuck up

Same for me
I like that at all times there is never any question how I am supposed to be feeling or thinking during a scene

best post in this thread

>tfw no Haruka daughteru

Baseball Eyes starring Shinada when?

I laughed but it's also a really good point

Make me, retard.

>series has garnered reputation as a good series
>is a prequel so new players can easily jump in
>Japanese games in general are being more accepted in the West

Post something from a boss fight you retards. Even as a guy who enjoys Yakuza this webm makes me cringe. You are proving the opposite of your point.

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The comic relief stuff was more prominent compared to usual? The story was ass as usual but I felt like the game didn't take itself as seriously most of the time (the main story, not talking about substories)

Boss fights would look even worse to someone unfamiliar though, you have to hold back just to not kill the boss too quickly and in some cases you can accidentally skip those special QTEs just by beating their asses so hard

lol these games are a fucking joke

I'm liking Yakuza 0 so far, though the excessive 3 types of cutscenes are annoying. Are there any other brawlers like this without so many cutscenes

QTEs aren't bad at bosses, except for Kashiwagi's. That shit is impossible on your first try. Basically people just shouldn't post wbems of heat actions. They look cool but it doesn't convince others that this isn't a movie combat.

>the only way to make the combat look good is to try not to win

t. played on a lower difficulty and spammed healing items

based ADHD zoomer

user even on the most difficult settings these games are casual as fuck. Why pretend otherwise? It's genuinely pathetic to try act hardkore over a game so easy.

>dude you didn't fight the one hard boss in the game while going into the battle without healing items and limiting yourself to only basic attacks? what a casual!!! yakuza games are for skilled gamers like me

t. Hasn't played the games
These games being too easy is not some new Zerofag complaint

It's extremely embarrassing how many guys like to believe they're "alpha" because they play an autistic as fuck 100 hour grind which is so casual it's practically impossible to lose and has a primarily female audience.
But yes, tell me again how this is a "manly" series where enemies don't even attack you and you can pause during fights to heal as much as you like.

What that user is saying is valid on all difficulties, enemy AI is bad and has generally been getting worse with every game (0 has some of the most braindead enemy AI in the entire franchise for example). The very first boss in games is often the hardest just because you haven't had a chance to unlock any moves yet, Kiryu starts out overly gimped in these games lately.

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kill yourself

I appreciate that you weren't sarcastic or passive aggressive, but I still found this post a little patronizing

what? obviously no. who the fuck voted yes? how pathetic would someone have to be to even suggest this idea?

The ultimate autism fantasy has ALWAYS been "I'm half angel... half DEMON... I'm a good guy... with a dark side" so they lap up this kind of shit where you beat people senseless all day but still get to be the biggest heart of gold in town. When realistically the NPC working in a convenience shop is a better person than you are.

I was actually going to buy a Yakuza game before reading this thread. I was going to ask a question but lurked first. Didn't realise the games were this shit. Saved my money, thanks.

Are you me?
This is probably why I also watch a lot of children's entertainment (anime, cartoons, comic book movies) instead of all the normie shit other people my age do
Children's media is just easier to understand emotionally
I'm also a big fan of The World Ends With You

Basically 3 introduced a new mechanic where Kiryu has to chase people around in Kamurocho or get away from people chasing him
One of the sidequest storylines in 3 is that Kiryu meets a muscular tranny that chases him and rapes him if Kiryu gets caught by him

Removed to keep Kiryu a canon virgin

I think partially because of the sheer amount of side stuff you have at your disposal (which a lot of it tends to get incredibly goofy), that and being a prequel, it's a good jumping on point.

I prefer these over the GTA games, though I've never played them they're pretty much just "steal cars and shoot up stuff" right?

I honestly don't know how people found out about the game. For me I just saw a trailer of it on the psn store and decided to pre order it. Thought I would have buyer's remorse but it was kino.

>I honestly don't know how people found out about the game

GamingBrit and Hyperbithero

youtube.com/watch?v=CU-z4Csf1Tc

youtube.com/watch?v=CZD2eufsDII

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And now they've both dropped the series because it's too popular. Proving that the only reason anyone ever hyped it was because it was niche.

You can try Spikeout, Urban Reign and Dynamite Cop.

I almost had respect for Brit when he shat on waifufags but then his pathetic backtracking was so incredibly embarrassing I could never stand to listen to either of these faggots ever again

Newfags love majima

its a webm, go figure

t. loved majima until someone without autism said they liked him too

you're welcome. go buy something good and enjoy.

Nigger there is literally a cat named meowjima.

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Gangster games of any kind are always kino

fpbp

except mafia 3

I'm convinced this is all one samefag autist false flagging

It must be. Nobody would actually think yakuza combat is good.

Go fuck yourself false flagging retard
You post the exact same webms in every thread
boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/3Y3BYMk0v15_XvU_q1SWUQ/
Kill yourself cunt

NO TIME TO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE

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It is good, you wouldnt know from just watching this retards cutscene webms against the most basic enemies in the game though
Fight Kuze and tell me its easy

ILLL FIIIIND MYYY PAAAAAATTTHHHHH

Marketing and the fact it was a prequel meant anyone could play it without feeling completely lost.

Post actual good combat instead of just heatmove trash

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The sickest part of the game honestly
youtu.be/HjAkcYThY_I

Just started the game last week and suddenly there are threads everywhere about it.
Weird

My condolences

You will inevitably start to feel bored. You will walk from pointless conversation to pointless conversation. You will read and read and read while character models stare at each other lifelessly. You will do the same unchallenging fights hundreds of times over where enemies pose no threat. You will stare at cutscenes that play out in the slowest way possible. You'll tell yourself the story has gripped you while trying to ignore how badly written it is.
You will wonder why Yea Forums and various ecelebs hyped up this series, and begin telling yourself that YOU must be wrong, not them. You'll tell yourself it's good just to feel a part of something.

That's what you're in for.

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You're just noticing it now
We always have Yakuza threads
Unfortunately this one is full of shitposters
Hope you enjoy it user, Y0 was my first Yakuza and it became my fav game of all time

Holy shit what the fuck is wrong with you
Have you ever considered that you might just have shit taste and a low attention span? ADHD or perhaps aspergers?

Already at that point, but I'm still having fun, and I'm invested in the story now. I'm just having to pace myself is all

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This is the good combat?

Cringe

why are you so mad you sperg

nu-males who like movie games
yakuza 0 and the entire franchise as a whole is overrated by a bunch of retarded fanboys on Yea Forums

Why are (You) coming into these threads just to shitpost?

Thanks. The combat is a little frustrating on mouse and keyboard, but I'm having fun. The real estate and cabaret club businesses are great

wish I'd seen a post like this when I first played 0. I finished it eventually but it was easily the most overhyped shit I ever played in my life. had I seen posts like this I might have had lower expectations and enjoyed it more. this is a perfect description of what I and friends of mine went through.

user you can't write a post like and then cry about others not meeting your high standards of posting

The first one is
The others are Dragon engine garbage

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Yakuza fans are delusional.
>Have you ever considered that you might just have shit taste and a low attention span? ADHD or perhaps aspergers?
No, the DOOM and Wolfenstein zoomer remakes also bored me to shit despite being "action packed". Finished neither games.
Fuck off with your cringe weebshit moviegames nigger.

and why did all the others flopped?

i actually have no idea how the others sells

REAL YAKUZA USE A GAMEPAD
i think i spent 30 hours alone doing cabaret

Dude get a life
Are you the same faggot who posts "god tier combat" every thread?
Where did Sega touch you?

Say that you want but at least GoW tried something new.
I wonder what I'll be doing in the new Yakuza game? Oh boy, the same shit I've done for hours and hours in the last 5 games

no, we're just actually doing good in life both financially and emotionally that we can enjoy these things without worrying what others think about what we like.

DAME DA NE

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>Just started playing my first Yakuza game
>12/10 atmosphere, but combat is slightly lackluster so far
>Get dragged to a bar to do karaoke
>Well whatever I’ll just get this mini-game over with and get back to the ga- BUHREAKING ZA RAAAAAAWWW, BUHREAKING ZA RUUUURES
>mfw

This is an entirely new realm of Kinography that I never knew existed.

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The combat doesnt get good until you INVEST
Once you get counters Brawler style and Thug style are fucking 10/10

why is it that when you criticize other games fans will reply with counterpoints but when you criticize yakuza games fans just get mad as fuck and string as many strawman buzzwords together as possible in blind rage?

Why do you automatically assume people who criticize this game have a hate boner for Sega?
I just feel ripped off by the retards on here who shilled this pretentious shit so hard and want to warn fellow anons to not fall for the shilling like I did.

rrr

This. You have to do a lot of tedious shit to be able to unlock more fighting moves. The games have literally no challenge whatsoever but once you unlock the other styles you'll win fights with even more ease than before and feel like a badass

The first had an awful english localization, the second did decently well, the third was a mess
4 and 5 did ok in the west but 0 was the first smash hit
Basically a combination of bad circumstances and bad marketing
0 was the first one they actually advertised properly and tons of streamers/youtubers jumped on board too

its funny to normies

Because its not "people" its you, alone in every thread
Just 6 months ago we could have a proper Yakuza thread without your autism

because the criticisms are fair and true but they either want to lie to newcomers or themselves so they go full on DELETE THIS!!!! to feel better

Karaoke is the best minigame.

Dead Souls probably also caused them to lose a lot of faith in localizing the brand since it seemed to sell terribly in the west considering how much petitioning it took to get 5 localized. I'm glad we're finally getting mostly everything brought over without worry, I never experienced the wait for 5 but I'm happy for those guys who did end up fighting for it.

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What a fucking dogshit board. I'm actually done with this place now.

>Basically a combination of bad games and bad games
ftfy

Bringing Yakuza to pc was a mistake
This is going to be every thread from now on

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>Because its not "people" its you, alone in every thread
OK kid. Whatever you say.

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Yeah I forgot to mention Dead Souls almost killing localisation altogether
Idl why they brought that pile of trash to the west and not Ishin

Both yakuza and GoW are fucking bad, but boy does the yakuza series take the cake. Every game is basically the first hubworld in sonic '06 with mediocre minigames scattered around. That's it. That is the ENTIRE game. Every single one.

Bye bye!

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You've obviously never played any of them

lol I love him he's so RANDOM

KIRYU CHAAAAAAN lmao

Someday you'll learn that it's possible for more than one other person in the universe to have opinions you disagree with, user.

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Literally never seen a fanbase so unwilling to discuss flaws or weaker elements of the games that could be improved. Unironically worse than the Sonic fandom. I struggle to think of a more unbearable audience.

this

>shit out the same game for the past 13 years
>still unable to refine and improve the formula
>games are somehow getting worse instead of better
literally activision tier

>games are somehow getting worse instead of better

elaborate

If Yakuza was a western series people would have shat on it so hard when 3 came out that would have been the last game. But it's japanese so it's BASED and beyond criticism and we gotta buy it even when it's shit to support the series and then a decade later we're still playing the exact same game.

Kiwami 1 and 2 were shit, and Judgment combat STILL feels somehow worse than any other game not made on new Dragon Engine. It's seriously just that dumb blocking system mixed in with the lack of Heat Actions. On Yagami's end it's also the slow recovery times of everything, Yagami actually has fun styles but Crane for example suffers due to the enemies blocking everything from it while Tiger can just mosey on through. I actually went back and played some Y5 today and the combat felt a lot better. I think I can best explain it as being more in control of what you're doing. The Dragon Engine combat is more fluid and flashy, for sure, but I kinda preferred the gamey jank of the original engine.

Okay.

They just need to make it so blocking doesn't combo break. That's it. You're overreacting.

So my point about the combat getting worse instead of better was actually right? You agree with me, but say I'm overreacting?

Do you think yakuza combat is getting better or worse?

>Literally copying my post word for word.
See

yakuza_fanbase.png

LMAO

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>Moose himself saying Judgment combat sucks
Damn... the haters win

absolute yikers

I'm trying to prove that the combat system is getting better not worse and you're not helping. Stop feeding the trolls.

neck yourself
fucking retard

Nobody knows these games better than Moose, and he says the exact same thing, so yes, you're right.

Because you didn't need to play any other yakuzas first. It was a good starting point

stop posting

What? He did, look:

please stop now
this is embarrassing

Next time try forming your own opinions you fucking idiot.

Or after. It was a good ending point too.

The absolute state of this fucking board
Have sex

Why is cocaine such a big no-no in Japan?

lol embarrassing
btfo completely
judgment has the best combat of any yakuza game so far

A very normal and not at all autistic post

Go back to your Smash threads child

>Moose was the shitposter all along
why did he do it bros

did you really just go through the entire thread linking to every post you don't like just to use a shit meme

Drugs in general are pretty taboo in Asia, probably due to China's whole Opium Wars thing setting a precedence. That would be my guess at the very least. China executes people for bringing drugs into the country for example, and I believe Japan straight up deports and bans anyone who is caught with anything assuming they're not a local.

>if user says judgment combat is bad, he's a troll, but if a tripfag says the same thing, he isn't
explain this to me

I quoted you probably 20 times didnt I

We need IDs and to ban anyone praising Yakuza in a sarcastic way.

Because the 80s was something special and that adds a lot of charm into a game. The game was also solid, had a lot of shit to do and a varied soundtrack

>We need IDs and flags
ftfy

In the time you took to quote all of those posts, you could have had sex.

patronizing post

What if I was having sex while I was posting

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I wouldn't say it was the best but certainly made the Dragon engine finally good.

I dunno why. It's not as good as 2

555-come on now

The problem is seriously just that dumb blocking system mixed in with the lack of Heat Actions. On Yagami's end it's also the slow recovery times of everything, Yagami actually has fun styles but Crane for example suffers due to the enemies blocking everything from it while Tiger can just mosey on through.

Played through Judgment twice already and it looks like we have a pretty long wait until 7 is out, so I need something to fill the time. Are there any other games with combat as good as the Yakuza games I should check out?

>samefag shitposter got banned
Based, thank you mods

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Then it's time to graduate from Yea Forums.

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Now we can finally discuss the games in peace. Do you think the combat in Yakuza games is getting better or worse?

No. But if you didnt played Slepping Dogs, just do it

Personally I dont like the new engine's combat, it feels floaty with no impact and blocking kills combos which it never used to in the old engine.
I also think styles, counters, and absirdly violent heat actions were the best features in Yakuza's combat and the new engine simplified it considerably
Judgement is defintiley better than 6 or K2 though

I trust Moose. Which unfortunately means the combat is getting worse. But the series is always refining itself and shows no signs of ending. We're about to start a whole new journey with a new lead character. So who knows, in another 10 years the combat might be decent again.

Sleeping Dogs is so good
jackie ):

Thu 19 Apr 2018

Delete this.

I hate to be a zoomer but Cry's lets play of Yakuza 0 was kino

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Worse.
>spam flux fissure to max the gauge
>spam triangle in ex boost crane to murder everything
>repeat

Moose was right, combat is only getting worse. Fingers crossed 7 goes back to the old style but I'm doubtful.

Don't feel bad. Streams are probably the best way to experience these games since they're basically VNs and the gameplay stinks. A good streamer will keep things interesting through the long boring segments too.

Nice ban evasion bro
I have 300 hrs in Yakuza 0 on top of watching streams of it so uh Eat Shit

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What. Moose thinks Dragon Engine isnt good?

>Nice ban evasion bro
lol wut

>merely pretending that your 40 false flag shitposts didnt just get purged

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No, but he confirms Judgment is the worst combat in a Yakuza game in a while. Which is a blow to everyone who was insisting that the combat was only getting better and better with every release.

>Which is a blow to everyone who was insisting that the combat was only getting better and better with every release.
Lol wut
Who was saying that
Pretty much everybody agrees that 0 had the best combat and K1 would be top tier if the boss fights weren't copy-paste garbage

>s o y poster
Oh you're just some retard, okay. I don't know what you're talking about but shouldn't you be crying in a wolfenstein thread or something?

Mostly better but it's not without its issues.
>Grabs can now be used anywhere and have unique attacks from above or below when you go for one.
>Not restricted to smaller fight arenas, the whole town is your fighting arena and even if you run away there's always items you can pick up.
>Charge attacks are being added into combat more and more to vary things up.
>Wall running makes combat more dynamic however you feel like using it.
>Actual fighting is fun when you're not bouncing, especially when you turn enemies into living bowling pins.
>Physics system in general is a welcome addition.
>Enemies are much more random meaning it's harder to predict what they'll do.
>Judgment already added higher damage enemies which is nice.
Just go back to the old blocking system, or even stay with the shattering system Judgment already has. Make the bouncing stop and you've already fixed your issue with combat. Dragon Engine games have perfectly good combat, just stop the bouncing, Judgment already improved upon it and added more fun stuff.

WITHOUT A PORK BUN IN YOUR HAND
YOU ARE NOT A REAL MAN!

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t. autistic minecraft fan

>wolfenstein
Why are you even bringing this up? Lol wtf

Why do Yakuza games have such good looking food FUCK IM SO HUNGRY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>I have 300 hrs in Yakuza 0

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...

Spoilers on a recommendation, my nigga. Please delete this

Confirms my fears. Judgment combat is indeed a step down.

if spoilers are under a spoiler tag and someone reads it they deserve to be spoiled for being a retard

Funnily enough the only people I know who like Yakuza are girls or the biggest snoylent guzzlers you've ever seen.

the only place where people believe yakuza is a high test series is among a small group of delusional aspies on Yea Forums

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6'3 blue eyed chad who has sex reporting
If you dont have minimum 80 hrs in Yakuza 0 you are a coward and a faggot

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and how are the sales for games after 0? It always seems like they went hard too fast due to the goodwill and success from 0 and didn't stop to think how the others will actually sell.

It's never been spectacular, so I'm okay with how it is in Judgment.

The only thing we've heard so far is 6 sold just as much as the JP release (Which means at least 300,000 sales) and the JP release of Judgment sold through 94% or something like that of their stock after Hamura's actor got arrested because it was the only way to get the OG Hamura on disk.

... And here I was bashing the Dragon Engine from the beginning, but "nah, you are bashing for no reason you baby 0fag"
I really hated K2 compared to what 2 was. Fuck those shitty grabs and ragdoll physics. Everything felt easy, the tiger bosses were a fine example how things were worse compared to Og 2

The problem is that I dont see RGG going back to 5's engine, because old engine felt like a 3d beat'em'up, but Dragon Engine? Fuck that.

as the world's foremost expert on Yakuza 2, the tigers were never that hard. Knock them down 3 times to activate the "Feel the heat!" move. Do that twice on each one and gg

old engine was way better though. RIP

it wasn't. it's very niche.

posts like these are what makes me browse Yea Forums every now and then. thank you

>Fuck those shitty grabs
What's the problem here? Because they're far better than in the old engine. You don't just stiffly grab the guy, you have multiple ways to grab them, you can actually grab them on stairs and drag them to stairs instead of just to the limits of the staircase, you can throw enemies over a ledge into water because of the ragdoll effect instead of needing a Heat Action to do it, it grabs an enemy off the ground much more smoothly (Even though the shoulder pickup in the older engine was one of my favorite things), and you can even throw the guy into other enemies to knock them down to the ground.
>and ragdoll physics
I truly don't get the hate for ragdolls. I understand if you don't like how far a guy goes with certain attacks, I know that was a complaint people had with Ryuji for example, but being able to punt enemies away for a bit and causing a chain reaction of damage because you threw a guy into other guys is great.
>tiger bosses
The Tiger problem is, again, because of the bouncing enemies cause to you. I'm sure if they added a bear you'd bounce off of him too because they have a dumb fetish for it. Just giving the players temporary extracts isn't a solution for this, get rid of it entirely. They also weren't that hard on OG 2, not to mention the room had spears.
>Everything felt easy
6 and K2 were definitely on the easy side compared to usual outside of the wrestlers and Amon, no argument there, 300 damage is absurd and even 200 can be a bit much, but Judgment rebalanced a lot and prevented you from becoming too overpowered while buffing mooks to be balanced at endgame and buffing bosses. The mortal wound system also added more threats to the boss fights (Though they're an annoyance against mooks because they use pistols).

Everyone keeps blaming the engine for the problems when it's the implementation of certain mechanics or bad balancing that's the problem. The vast majority of what it does is an improvement in my opinion.

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My main issue is the blocking in the middle of combos and you cant attack again for 2 seconds for no reason
Its silly and should be removed, if you get caught in a combo it should be unstoppable unless you perform a break

>if you get caught in a combo it should be unstoppable unless you perform a break
It should still be blockable just like in the older games and when you get regularly blocked in Judgment, but yeah, they just need to stop it from knocking you away. It interrupts flow for no reason and doesn't really add any difficulty into the fight, it just interrupts your attacks and leaves you open for a full second. You can't prevent this at all outside of using extracts which are time-limited and take a bunch of materials to make. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make fights harder, this is just the wrong way to do it, same with enemies randomly gaining super armor.

>all this bitching over combo breaking

git gud

Nobody is bitching over combo breaking I specifically said you should only be able to use a breaker to stop a combo

Combo breaking is fine if it's at least shown to be happening before it actually happens so you can prepare for it. Right now the situation is
>Doing combo normally.
>At complete random during the combo enemy blocks with no tell and no way to prepare for it.
>Character staggers for a full second with no way to guard or cancel from it.
>While you are doing this two or three guys can be winding up for an attack.
>If you're fighting more than one enemy and using something like a wide sweeping kick every single enemy it hits can block you meaning stuff like Crane requires combos to be started away from the enemies if you actually want to see more than two square hits.
Another example is in tiger fights.
>Every single punch causes a long recoil.
>Tiger can go from standing still to instantly attacking.
>If you punch it you will recoil and can instantly get swiped at with no way to mitigate it.
The tiger itself is basically set up in a way that once you attack it will retaliate and then you have to attack it after it has attacked in roughly one second before it tries again so eventually you learn to deal with how it works, but even then it sometimes doesn't attack you and waits for you to bounce off of it. You can attack the air to get around this but it's horrible hit feedback.

You can get around this issue by starting up combos away from enemies and then using finishers towards them since they can't block (most) finishers, using weapons, or abusing various attacks in the games, that doesn't mean it's a good system. The previous system of enemies blocking your attacks and then super armoring through them after X amount of hits was good because you could prepare for it and learn how many hits it took to get them to that state. Here it's just random. Honda can either take 4 hits to his face or bounce you after one hit then chokeslam you.

Yakuza isn't niche anymore. 0 and Kiwami 1 sold enough to get Greatest Hits re-releases on PS4(the red banner and case) and I bet Kiwami 2 might get a Greatest Hits re-release as well and I hope Judgment and Fist of the North Star Lost Paradise does too.

>i played 0-K2 over the span of 3 weeks
Jesus, it takes me at least 3 weeks to play through just one of these games.
Are you doing no side content at all?

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Bet you 100 bucks you couldnt do this
Devilleon is such a nerd