NO MULTIPLAYER >NO MULTIPLAYER NO CO-OP >NO CO-OP UNITY >UNITY BETHESDA LOGIN >BETHESDA LOGIN 360 AND PS3 VERSIONS GONE >360 and PS3 VERSIONS GONE SO ARE IPHONE AND ANDROID >SO ARE IPHONE AND ANDROID LITERALLY STEALING YOUR MONEY >LITERALLY STEALING YOUR MONEY
Owners of the original licenses are not redirected on their consoles to the new SKUs, and as of press time, those games' original owners are asked to pay full price to play the new, Xbox One-native versions of those classic games ($5 each for Doom and Doom II, $10 for Doom 3). >Owners of the original licenses are not redirected on their consoles to the new SKUs, and as of press time, those games' original owners are asked to pay full price to play the new, Xbox One-native versions of those classic games ($5 each for Doom and Doom II, $10 for Doom 3).
This is what happens with you give up your ownership rights with a smile.
Ian Myers
How's the Doom3 Switch port?
Dylan Taylor
I still have the doom collection downloaded so I'm good. Haven't turned on my ps3 in a few years anyway
Aaron Davis
It asks every login for a Bethesda account and requires it always-online in order to play Doom 3 (not 1 and 2, just 3). Also no multiplayer.
Camden Sullivan
I've heard that the online login was only for 1&2
Benjamin Adams
They're trying to revive their failing LiVe SeRvIcEs attempt after Fallout 76 took it out back and shot it. No kidding, if you registered for Bethesda online while Fallout 76 was happening, you're at risk of identity theft, even if you never played that game. That's how bad it was.
Since they see the writing on the wall and understand completely that their attempt is on its death throes, they're now just going to force it on you.
Chase Ross
Just wait until Google Stadia takes over. You won't even have backups.
also it's local multiplayer, has only co-op (no deathmatch for some reason), and the Unity is a shell for a wad baked into the assets. so at least get the facts right so you can shit on beth where necessary, like their Quakecon sales on the Humble Store not going to charity and instead 100% to themselves
Nathan Taylor
It's for 3, too.
Christopher Flores
Is the doom3 the shitty BFG edition or the good one?
Camden Garcia
>WE'RE FIXING IT ITS OKAY TO FUCK YOU OVER No it's not, they only started 'fixing' it because people started shitting on them for it. They were hoping no one noticed. Also
>has only co-op The previous versions had full online multiplayer. This is objectively a downgrade
Julian Russell
BFG Edition with no multiplayer.
Aaron Torres
BFG of course. no multiplayer, be sure to buy it anyway and defend us on you rtwitter accounts.
Noah Thomas
>bethesda being bethesda >people act surprised
Isaac Campbell
Doom WADs are literally free. Why buy any of these ports lol
Jeremiah Barnes
I'm not debating that. With a lack of No Rest For The Living and Final Doom, and the fact that the ports are genuinely pretty shoddy even compared to the previous ones, they're not really something one should go out of their way to buy. But if you're going to be mad, at least know the facts instead of spreading around false info.
Wyatt Gray
Fucking trash
Luis Sanchez
Fair enough They're free for us, because we know better. You know who it's not free for? The target demographic of the switch.
Robert Rodriguez
>mad'n'petty about buying a demake of a 30yo game on a console for toddlers
Don't listen to the other guy. Doom 3 port is good. BFG version, has expansions, 1080p docked and runs at 60fps although the framerate sometimes lowers to 40. Doesn't require being signed-in, although it asks, but you can close it out.
DOOM 1 and 2 ports are making the sign-in optional in an update, and OP's complaint wasn't intentional and it's getting fixed.
DOOM 1 and 2 ports are still bad though. They didn't raise the frame rate to 60, music is slower for some reason, controls feel off, etc.
hey, Doom PSX was a neat way to play the game now we just got a mod for that
Austin Hernandez
It's an overall better version, but I would agree that I would prefer the option to go back on a few of the changes.
Connor Hernandez
They said it wasn't intentional, but they are clearly lying.
Ethan Hernandez
It's easy to install and play with minimal configuration, but as someone that played the original 3 for both vanilla and mods a fair few times, it's still jarring. I just wish someone could mod in the original D3's ultra textures to get rid of that awful compression in BFG, and fix the lighting issues.
Juan Hall
Are console-bros finally waking up? I never understood how they gave up their freedoms and free online just like that without even a hint of resistance.
Cooper Stewart
I just want to throw $5 @ Doom, and play it on my TV, but the ports aren't even good. Fucking pathetic.
is this screenshots only, or what? because not a single piece of footage anywhere i've seen shows anything like this, and it feels like a photoshop to capitalize on the anger train
Caleb Parker
Its objectively worse The only thing that is "debatabe" is the flashlight debatable because its a casualization and casuals will stand by anything that makes a game easier You NEVER, not even ONCE need the flashlight in vanilla doom if you are in an intense fight, when you fight, you can see everything you need to see flashlight is reserved for exploration for resorces and the ocassional hidden zombie Also, the BFG edition all but removes darkness and shadows, everything is bright as fuck and the enviroments look worse, the atmosphere is all fucked up Also encounters have been outright REMOVED, enemies that were there in the OG doom3 are not there in the BFG edition on the same difficulties, either to remove jumpscares (which are not obnoxious in vanilla doom 3 despite what meme reviewers say) or to make gunfights EASIER On the topic of difficulty, BFG is LAUGHABLY easier than the original, on the same difficulty there you pick up TWICE the ammount of ammo and health than in vanilla doom 3, and as i said earlier, the enemy count is lower Seriously, playing doom 3 on marine is like a tighly crafted survival horror experience, and BFG shits all over that The game even suffers from glitches that were not even in the game at first, ranging from audio to visual, to even physics There is not ONE single texture on BFG that is higher resolution than in vanilla, some are even LOWER RESOLUTION
I fucking hate the bfg edition so much, literally the only thing it does better is the PDA looks nicer
Logan Hall
>>Also encounters have been outright REMOVED, enemies that were there in the OG doom3 are not there in the BFG edition on the same difficulties, either to remove jumpscares (which are not obnoxious in vanilla doom 3 despite what meme reviewers say) or to make gunfights EASIER don't attribute to malice, what could easily be attributed to incompetence. it's not that they removed fights, it's that they fucked up the scripting in the engine update so a number of enemies simply don't trigger right, and in some cases even trigger earlier than intended
We now live in an age where a Zoomer may not even own a computer. Or know what Dos is. Or know how to use Dosbox Or even have a device capable of using Dosbox
Or, and the worst part, even have a device which can download the Dos version of Doom to use in a sourceport which works on their platform of choice. If they understand what all of those things are.
That's the world, now
Caleb Evans
>good >BFG version Confirmed retard
Samuel Diaz
Don't give these fucking faggots your money. Definitive versions of these games can be pirated for free. I've still got pc hard copies of them anyway.
Lincoln Howard
There is a lot of younger people who think this is the first time Doom has been on a portable, even though back in 2006 many people played it back on their hacked PSP's perfectly fine
Makes me feel older
Nathaniel Roberts
i think the worst offence is when they play brutal doom and think they know everything about doom that it is to know
>doom for gba released, hyped, play it >further nerfed jaguar derivative, meh >wait for A DS version that runs better and has touch controls, doesn't come >same for 3DS >now it finally comes for a "portable" nintendo console but the property has passed hands to (((zenimax))) since and they STILL fuck it up royally despite switch being about 1,000,000 times more powerful than the typical PC doom was originally made for i just wanted a portable doom with good controls bros
Why the fuck would you buy it on steam when you can get it for free?
Zachary Rivera
Retards still support their nonsense. Thanks to the gullibility of your average AAA consuming "gaymer", Todd will never go out of business. youtu.be/8srazeJkSbo
>Bethesda went from "yeah! Bethesda game" to "oh, it's from Bethesda, no thanks" in less than 4 years I gotta applaud just for that
Brody Gray
That's what happens when the publisher side of things decides to try to be Activision-Blizzard only to fuck up royally.
Samuel Hall
It's only on the screenshots on the eshop page, not in the actual game. I checked myself and it was actually there on the eshop.
Colton Foster
The entire industry is busting at the seams due to share holder demand for growth every year.
John Torres
>Activision published Please let's go back to those days just get doom out of todd's hands
Isaac Long
>It's an overall better version How? The lighting effects were toned down, the textures are worse, and the game was made easier by adding ammo and health everywhere.
Nathan Williams
>implying the entire internet won't forgive them after they show like 10 seconds of pre-alpha elder scrolls 6 gameplay.
Juan Reyes
I emulated the GBA version of DOOM on a PSP years ago but I'm still very tempted by portable DOOM3
Joseph Perez
What's wrong with the BFG edition? I've only ever played the original on Xbox.
It's just so strange to me. Why did they even bother throwing this shitty Unity port together? More effort for an inferior version of a game that anyone who's interested already had access to.
It’s gonna be next gen so I’m honestly excited for them to try to push gamebryo on PS5. Just keep piling graphics on top of the creation engine and don’t worry about all the breaking.
Nicholas White
so that they could implement DRM into it because i don't think the original version would be able to have a bethesdanet login forced into it.
Owen Turner
Prove that you're not a forced outrage loser by replying with your favourite wad.
the only major problems aside from Horse armor was "they are making TES for casuals and F3 is just Oblivion with guns", only faggot contrarians were saying that those games are trash prior to Fallout 4
Samuel Gomez
pol.wad
Christian Brown
Why are gamers such cucks that continuously eat shit?
Charles Phillips
>not wow.wad
Dylan Ward
regardless of what you stated in your post, no one with a brain said "yeah! Bethesda game" after oblivion. it was more or less "meh maybe it will be better this time"
Matthew Rodriguez
What do they even get out of making you log in to a useless account?
John Thomas
Great
Luis Campbell
Don't worry, they'll forcefully 'update' those versions too eventually.
Andrew Torres
Because just like with the daily news, or the national factors, or international shit, most people don't stay informed about problems and simply don't get why there's bigger problems or underlying issues.
I don't understand why would someone want to buy OG Doom for consoles, just fucking get it for PC, better controls+ source ports+ billions of mods, even a fucking shitty laptop from two ice ages ago can run it. Why would you waste your money and time for a old rusty used picture of a pornstar with so many cumstains on it to make it impossible to see anything
>Sourceports exist and they can do nothing about them whatsoever On a scale of 1 to 10, how much does GZDoom make the suits at Bethesda/Zenimax seethe?
Caleb Nelson
Or hell get a Homebrew version if you really want it on console. You can play custom wads on those.
Gabriel Bailey
I guess it depends on your tolerance for bullshit. I roll my eyes whenever I hear anyone talk about Blizzard being dead "now." Like nigger, they've been dead for over a decade. They died the moment they merged with Activision. If Diablo 3 didn't make it obvious you're dumb or underage.
Camden Edwards
PHYSICAL FAGS BTFO, DIGITAL IS THE FUTURE!
Zachary Davis
>pre-alpha elder scrolls 6 gameplay.
Oh gee whiz, im going to enjoy my 59th game on my 30year old engine. Its like its something new again /sarcasm
Easton Hughes
These ports weren't made for you. You can literally go to /vr/ this instant and download Doom and it's expansions and have the game running in about 10 minutes. These ports were made for knuckle-scrapers who barely know their way around a computer, who just want to sit their fat ass on the toilet and play with shit controls.
>You can just get another port guys Then what's the point of this one? Why are people so eager to eat shit?
Chase Ortiz
What is the best way to play Doom 1 and 2?
Ayden Thompson
Who says they are? Have we seen any sales figures?
Jayden Flores
Why would you even bother with this shit? Just download it on a notebook if you want a flexible device.
Joseph Wright
Its barely been out a day. Way too soon to have any of those.
Isaiah Ramirez
Actually, during the Doom deathmatch tournament at Quakecon the other day, one of t he announcers mentioned it would be neat to see a Quake Champions Doom Edition tournament. The other announcer told him to be careful even mentioning QCDE, as it's apparently a "hot potato."
Christopher Walker
You faggots ask this exact fucking question every fucking thread. LURK MORE BEFORE POSTING
Ryder Jones
This is actually supposedly a decent port for what it is as well. Its amazing that the GBA can even run this game playable at all. It comes at the cost of resolution though.
I mean the proper version of doom, though the gba port was cool back in the day
Dominic Ortiz
I guess that must be a 10.
Nicholas Peterson
I'm not talking about sales figures, I'm talking about people who make excuses for multi billion dollar companies releasing inferior products.
Brayden Sanders
does it really matter, if you're serious about DOOM you'd be playing it on PC.
Ryan Ortiz
how the fuck is this legal... And why do I even care. Console plebian peasant slaves asked for and deserve this.
Ayden Lewis
>green blood
Lame.
Nathan Ross
Seething snoy
Zachary Baker
>/sarcasm you have to go back
Julian Sullivan
The only console doom worth playing is Doom 64 and even then there's Doom 64 EX. Who gives a literal fuck.
Andrew Ross
>Only 4 wad >Rest are shitposters & outrage friendos
Jaxon Ortiz
You have too much faith in humanity.
Samuel Bennett
I haven't seen anyone making excuses, just people disappointed that the port is so shit because they would've been willing to drop $5 for convenient portable Doom on the Switch.
Colton Davis
People are not surprised by this it's common Bethesda buffoonery people just sick of it
Thomas Ramirez
You’re mixing up creatively dead vs dying as an actual company as in money
Blizzard is dying right now but yes, they’ve been dead creatively for over a fucking decade
Wyatt Baker
i like ancient aliens
Connor Russell
On PC with a sourceport of your choosing with WADs obtained through any means you deem morally necessary. Dosbox Doom is kind of dated with very few options, and Chocolate Doom exists if you want the authentic experience. Older hardware can play it natively
Jace Reyes
>fucked up the port of a 30 year old game that can literally run on a calculator Jesus h christ I can't even put into words how incompetent Bethesda softworks is.
Dylan Jenkins
I can't imagine how the perks system from Skyrim is going to be good in Elder Scrolls 6. Considering in Fallout 4 most perks were just increase damage by 10%
Thomas Nguyen
Maybe Doom 3 was a shit Doom game all along, and proper Doom is the furthest thing from a survival horror game out there? Just saying
Anthony Hughes
God I hate these bootlicker defenses. I read some review on Yongblood yesterday where some fag tried to attack negative reviews by claiming they were playing the game wrong and people were dumb for expecting something other than a Co-Op Loot Shooter.
Nathaniel Hernandez
I don't believe that's real
Kevin Price
Kino in the form of a jokewad. No other jokewad has come close to its brilliance. youtu.be/X_v9bXwSM5g
Brayden Bennett
Scythe 2 WITH brutal doom. Fuck you faggots fight me
Ayden King
qstyle That shit rocks. >forced outrage And the worst part is: There's no way for zoomers to ever experience it because they're not going to find a PC to get ZDoom so they can play it.
Bentley Jenkins
It's just the ultimate Doom shitpost. And the thing is that despite that, it's also mostly very playable.
Isaac Cox
Unironically grove.wad
Thomas Watson
I'm glad people are outraged. Companies do not understand any language except outrage. Anything short of public outrage will never actually teach them to do anything different and will result in them maintaining their current course until destruction.
Holy shit it's actually real. My 360 copy of Doom is gone. WTF?
Nicholas Reyes
Based. Something really depressing and mystical about that wad. It was beautiful
Jose Moore
Do people really not have PCs these days? Like not even laptops? I would feel crippled without a PC at home. It's as fundamental as a refrigerator or running water.
Daniel Gomez
youtu.be/3L2ulZGdLGg feels like something set in a world like this should be its entire own story. honestly, first time a fucking doom wad almost inspired me to start writing
I have the doom wads and can get gzdoom easily. What are some of the best wads to mess around with? (Don't say brutal doom because I already tried that one and didn't like it)
It was zenimax. Not bethesda you fucking shitbrain
Jeremiah Smith
Do you guys think Bethesda's gonna get rid of Ultimate Doom on Steam for this shitty port?
Jaxson King
Demonsteele
Lucas Evans
I think most people, when they want to use the internet, just take their phones out.
Tyler Foster
Project MSX High noon Drifter
Nolan Green
seething consoledrone
Lucas Long
After how Fallout 4 and 76 turned out I'm honestly not looking forward to TES 6 at all, I can't even imagine what kind of stupid fucking decisions they're going to make
Austin Bailey
They got burned when they removed the 360 ports earlier in an attempt to force people to upgrade to their new port, I don't think it's too much of a concern at this point.
Easton Torres
>recommending weeb girl chronicles and not based GMOTA
Eli Moore
Nah, I don't think they'll try to fuck with the PC community. They'll just shove this down the willing throats of consolefags and then push DLC on them (like Microsoft does with Minecraft)
Tyler Moore
memento mori
Dominic Cruz
>WAAAAH THESE PORTS SUCK THEY DONT HAVE FUNNY MODS WAAAAH FUCK TERRIBLE PORTS OOF GOD you do understand that these ports are technically the most official way to play and that they play exactly as the original versions are supposed to, right? Or is it just fun to gatekeep a fucking 25 year old game from new players because muh secret klub dosbox
Nicholas Ramirez
>Gate keeping fucking DOOM.
What? It's the most ported game ever, you can literally play it on fridges.
Jacob Ward
>they play exactly as the original versions are supposed to, right?
ah yes, reminds me of the good old days where i would fire up my dial-up, log in to my bethesda account and just enjoy those extremely slow music tracks
Oliver Smith
>gatekeep I immediately discard any post with this word in it.
Austin Wright
wait wait wait
so if i OWN and BOUGHT previously ports on the 360, which are available on Xbox One....
if i delete them, i can never get them back?
Samuel Sanders
So why attack those who are choosing to play on current gen consoles The music is the exact same, what the fuck lies are you spewing?
>Or is it just fun to gatekeep a fucking 25 year old game from new players because muh secret klub dosbox what the FUCK are you talking about, you absolute retard
Adam Rivera
It literally won't work in most of the United States, and it still asks you pay full price to play the games.
Ryder Brown
>runs exactly as the original versions are supposed to >loading screens while it phones home to Bethesda >fucked up the music >fucked up some textures >fucked up God knows what else internally with the game logic >original version was designed specifically to make it easy to mod Begone zoomer.
Kayden Wilson
Oh diggity That will be very helpful, thank you
Gavin Anderson
You can always download them from your library. Happens all the time with games on steam and consoles when licencing issues arise.
Jack Flores
Reminder that TODD was so fucking pissed about it that he didnt even wanted to go to E3
I fear that he will suffer the same breakdown as Chris Metzen
Robert Murphy
YES YES YES
Ayden Ramirez
Not that user but they are not there. I just turned on my Xbone to check.
>designed specifically to make it easy to mod Why go through the trouble of modding it when you can download the Brutal Doom gore mod for $5 off the Creation Club?
clicking random on the doomworld wad database is always a fun trip
Julian Watson
I would legitimately be shocked if there's someone out there who is both interested in playing the original Doom and also too dumb to download the iwad and a sourceport.
Jonathan Jones
>gatekeep >DOOM So you're gonna tell me the one of the most ported games in existence, SOMETHING THAT HAS RAN ON A ATM, FRIDGE, AND A CAR DASHBOARD is getting gatekept on consoles. You can literally download this game on anything and itll run. Can the mods ban that retard then ban me so I dont have to view this shit anymore.
James Turner
At this rate, Blizzard needs to hit High, get enough money and make Activision Buy Id and Bethesda from Zenimax Media, or buy and PURGE the board. sadly there's no paw powerful enough to bend the universe into this.
Liam Perez
you can get them back by going into your succes page.
Daily reminder that Bethfucks and Zenifags should just kill themselves for butchering one of the biggest gaming IPs in the history of the whole media.
Jason Williams
So the reason why you are all angry is because you have to sign in,you cant play multiplayer and they have DRM? are there any real reasons not to pick these games up for the Switch?
Elijah Barnes
Fixed in settings, it's a child proofing measure. Back in like 2005 I was still building my PC and I ran GBA doom on it because I had the entire emulator library and no internet.
Robert Adams
I already payed again for Doom on my phone way back when, it's been dead since Apple killed 32bit apps.
Joshua Ortiz
We need to Force Activision to buy id back from Zenimax
Mason Sanchez
>Doom! >on Switch!
Play it on PSP or Vita for free instead if you want portable
Evan Cruz
>BETHESDA LOGIN Does this mean online required to play?
>Those Jews are WORSE than zenimax. No they fucking are not. They support good vidya, and don't C&D entire website for providing negative criticism towards their games. Zenifags also OWNS Bethesda nowadays, who in turn owns the nu-ID, meaning they're directly responsible for the shit the IP is going through now.
The first time you log in, the others can be done offline on the Switch only apparently.
Oliver Watson
Blind name-brand consumerism. It's how Bioware stays in business too.
Owen Carter
If you mean the incident with the supposed mic left on, that was fake my dude.
Ethan Mitchell
THEY ARENT In fact Devolver's is full SJW garbage, everyone inside that company hides beneath the "GAMES, FUCK DRM AND AAA'S" when the CEO and most of the board hides some scummy scandals.
They literally neutered Shadow Warrior 2 in Gameplay and Story.
Christian Myers
Tried that with Doom on Switch. >lolno, connect to the internet to play, lmao
Connor Nguyen
>THEY ARENT They are. Literally the biggest jews of the industry at the moment.
>Devolver's is full SJW garbage Citation and examples needed. Devolver's literally one of the few remaining publishers with enough balls to openly state that piracy is not an issue that needs to be fought, and that people who suck ass at vidya should probably not even bother with their games.
>They literally neutered Shadow Warrior 2 in Gameplay and Story. DD did not develop the nu-SW games. And if you think that even the first one was "good", you're a sad, sad little child.
Wyatt Perez
Are you looking for gameplay wads that drastically alter the weapons and enemies or just normal map packs? If the latter then I really recommend alien vendetta, one of my personal favorite wads out there
Ian Diaz
>chocolate doom this post is 2 hours ago but you are definitely my nigga. Too bad vr only works with gz
Jaxon Johnson
I'm fine with either. I just want something to spice up the experience.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
>not strictly playing platformers on GZDOOM
pleb
Nathaniel Jenkins
BTSX although levels can get a bit too long at times. Pirate Doom was great too.
Julian Edwards
But the aspect ratio is off, the music is 8% slower, it seems to be a bit lighter and the game doesn't look right when you enter dark rooms that need the goggles to see properly.
Nathan Russell
>not playing only commercial games produced using modified custom versions of the gzdoom engine It's hard having such refined tastes sometimes.
Sebastian Brooks
Fellow gba doom player here. This is all i wanted as well....
Oliver Martin
Well shit, I just pulled out my phone and it works!
Cool, I love gameplay mods like these. Try GunCaster too if you haven't, it's really over-the top and breaks a lot of OG DOOM rules but it's tons of fun
Josiah Brown
I mean, it's login-free and it runs through DoSbox, and I probably bought it for $0.50 so whatever. (inb4 Steam is DRM anyway so it doesn't matter)
The login is for the Slayer's club. Take your 2010 image macro back to memebase.
Xavier Johnson
>An error The only mistake bethesda has made in the past few years is thinking they can do what they want because tards will eat it up and they aren't gonna be done making it for a while.
Charles Turner
So some programmer accidentally typed up a message saying "A Bethesda.net account is required to play this title" even though you would not use the word 'required' for an optional feature? And then on top of that they they didn't boot the game up and test it even once, which would have revealed this "mistake"?
Man, why are normalfags so easily taken in by blatant damage control? Do they genuinely lack the capacity for analytical thought? Maybe the NPC meme wasn't too far off the mark
Ian Jones
can we meme this into reality for 2020?
Michael Brooks
i know one guy who will do it, he's a fucking 18 years old faggot who said it's the best thing ever
Nicholas Collins
I don't know which one is more retarded, you or bethesda.
Logan Allen
>So some programmer accidentally typed up a message saying "A Bethesda.net account is required to play this title" even though you would not use the word 'required' for an optional feature? It literally didn't say that >Do they genuinely lack the capacity for analytical thought? Big talk from someone that can't even read a UI
Hunter Lee
Nice ad hom.
Blake Gonzalez
>literally didn't say that no shit but you are saying it was an error when it clearly wasnt
And start is a good start. Doom 1 and 2 are the definition of doom's fast and chaotic (but somehow terrifying) nature, and are always a blast to go through. Doom 3, while still good on its own, is much slower and much closer to a horror survival game a la resident evil (just not 3rd person) Doom 64 is pretty underrated, and is all but confirmed if you want to wait for that. Doom 2016 is much different from any other doom game but somehow the perfect evolution doom could've taken. tl;dr: No doom game is a bad starting point, just depends what you're looking for mainly. Also mods. Lots and lots of mods.
>Console shitters Good riddance and who the fuck cares
Dylan Gray
>Playing Doom on anything besides PC >Playing Doom on PC with anything besides GZDoom or ChocolateDoom
Man, must suck being a console peasant, or an absolutely retarded PC gamer.
Brandon Hill
>the perfect evolution doom could've taken was to devolve and add scripted nonsense lolno
Tyler Cooper
If you still own a console in 2019 you are a mouth breathing retard who deserves every pile of shit devs want to cram down your throat
Brody King
> Halo was made by 90's id. So, Marathon with faster action? I'm in.
Ryan Bailey
While the scripted nonsense did kinda suck, there isn't much else to do. We have the technology so we may as well use it instead of relying on manuals for "oh btw doomguy then shot himself out of a cannon it was cool we promise"
Nathaniel Moore
>LOCATION: ISRAEL LOCATION: ISRAEL >LOCATION: ISRAEL Fucking poetry.
Logan Campbell
H-Doom
Angel Campbell
Why does anyone give Bethesda money? They pull shit like this again and again. I still haven’t played nudoom because I refuse to support Bethesda even implicitly. Fuck them as a company. Them, Gearbox, and EA should all be getting the same levels of hate.
Landon Diaz
who doesn't have a pc capable of running doom in the current year anyway
Isaac Nelson
How does this affect owners of the games on Steam?
Jack Davis
My fucking refrigerator can play doom in current year.
Easton Miller
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
Nicholas Mitchell
who gives a shit there have been better source ports for years
Juan Flores
Why can’t they do simple shit right?
Josiah Perry
Zen Dynamics. >hidden level with arena fight using only machete >realize I can reflect plasma balls BRING IT ON
Benjamin Hall
Don't forget that soon there will be paid mods
Easton Cook
None, but those GOG Classic installers will be gold soon
Nolan Sullivan
Yeah, who gives a shit that Bethesda is trying to screw customers and trample all over consumer rights?
Are you fucking brain dead or just so jaded that corporations constantly fuck you over that you don’t care any more? Honest question.
>was an error Nigga, they're trying to fix things up to avoid more rage from the fanbase. It wasn't an error
Tyler Bennett
They don't screw me or anyone else who actually cares over. They screw over braindead sheep who don't care, so why should I care on their behalf? Anyone with a brain who actually gives two shits about playing classic Doom in 2019 knows about source ports and where to get the IWADs.
Jordan Taylor
>these ports are technically the most official way to play and that they play exactly as the original versions are supposed to Top fucking kek, 8/10 b8 post
Reminds me of the Florida boom along with the invention of AC Something has got to break infinite growth is a meme and when it crashes it crashes hard and leaves few survivors
>They screw over braindead sheep who don't care, so why should I care on their behalf Because that allows their shitty practices to become legitimized and propagate, you filthy fucking retard.
Ethan Thompson
and just what are consoles, again?
Isaiah James
and you refusing to buy a game does absolutely nothing to help it either
Ian Ward
>consumer backlash and poor sales/reviews has zero effect on a product and their ability to make money Are you pretending to be retarded?
David Sanders
Except consumers who are both informed and principled will always be outnumbered by the idiot masses. There's no point fighting it. Just stay away from it the best you can.
>shit company does shit practices >unless rebbit manages to blow said practices up, average gamer will eat that shit up no matter how shit they are
>niche company tries to do the right thing >more often than not it's unseen by the average gamer >specialized audience that sees what's going on and knows niche company exists are also the public with the most knowledge, and the public that pirates the most
I know that not everything goes to shit all the time, but I wish there was a way to get around these.
Man legacydoom psp and proquake on the psp was kino. Its mind blowing how advanced that was over 10 years ago and now phoneposters can run it through google chrome
Kayden Johnson
>DOOM 64 is finally about to release for modern platforms after 20 years of neglect >it comes with always online DRM i have never been monkeypaw'd this hard
>when your GZDoom folder is filled with massive bloat and you want to clean it up and start GZDoom fresh again >but there's so many mods and maps and music replacers and shit that you don't know if you'll ever find again
Hudson Reed
So just back up your WAD folder.
Colton Gray
Were it so easy. I didn't use a loader back then out of bad early habits, so I have like 300 wads and pk3s and shit in the same base folder as my GZDoom because I dragged and dropped. There's a reason why I want to clean up.
Hunter Garcia
holy shit even running trough a dosbox emulator on your phone is a better option than this because atleast you can still instal custom wads
Zdoom wars when it was still alive on doomseeker, but my favorite solo wad that i've been playing is the golden souls 1.
Sebastian Collins
Retarded apologist BTFO.
Isaiah Campbell
Back to Saturn X is absolute kino.
Owen Ramirez
Try pressing "no" genius.
Isaiah Perry
if i already own em i'm good right?
Aaron Watson
Whatever, I'm going back to GZDoom.
Ryan Russell
It's disappointing that a 15 year old game is getting frame-rate drops on the Switch. However, the PS3 version ran at 720p with frame-rate drops and the Switch version runs at 1080p with frame-rate drops, which is consistent with how most PS3 games run on the Switch. Downloading it now since I never played the expansion on the PC, it should be a cool a handheld experience for $10.
Parker Young
It's weird though. The framerate isn't tanking during high enemy count/explosion moments. You'll just get the odd section of completely empty room that'll dip the framerate despite nothing happening.
Ian Rogers
I hope not. Bethesda needs to go down.
Owen Collins
I just realized I still don't have Doom on Steam. Is the Steam version fucked or is it legit?
It's legit but it's in Dosbox, the best experience you can ask for is to put it in a sourceport like GZDoom.
Jaxson Smith
Doom2.WAD
Andrew Powell
The steam releases are unchanged I believe. That being said, don't play it in the dosbox setup steam gives you. Never use dosbox, just grab gzdoom where you can customize it to your liking (aiming reticles, ability to look up/down, etc etc) Even if they were changed, all you need are the .wads for gzdoom to work anyways so.
Nolan Lewis
Or if you want nostalgia without the dosbox jank, throw it in chocolate doom or prboom.
David Martin
>most official holy shit you're a giant cuck for thinking like this Carmack literally said he doesn't care if you just get the WADs for free from somewhere
>once again the version that's not sold, but provided for free is better and has a ton of extra features For fuck's sake gaming industry, step it up. I keep trying to justify using digital platforms, specially because of the Cloud Save functions, but it keeps getting harder and harder. I guess I'll just fucking set a cloud saving software myself.
If Bethesda ever got actually close to going under, ID would be sold in a heartbeat since it’s actually worth something.
Blake Stewart
The problem with sourceports like GZDoom and Chocolate Doom is that the Doom engine is released under GPL, which means any future work done on it must also provide its source code in the same fashion that it was provided to the developers. A share-and-let-share situation.
All of the unity engine and dosbox shit is entirely done for publishers backflip over that requirement so they don't have to release anything open-source.
Daniel Bennett
>Buying DOOM 1 & 2. >Not already having DOOM on your switch. >Not having DOOM on every single electronic divice in your house.
Sebastian Baker
Every post are console fucks seething and people asking why. No one is actually answering any questions.
Aaron Myers
At least you can still hook up a mouse to that thing.
Ryder Nelson
Sunlust
Camden Butler
What would be the purpose of using a mouse in Doom?
Dylan Harris
I like project MSX.
Nolan Bailey
This
Joshua Fisher
I have the steam version of doom 1 and 2 from a few years ago how are they
Juan Diaz
Does Doomseeker multiplayer still work?
Eli Sanchez
Literally the original games on dosbox, just grab the wads and put them in a source port.
Hudson Johnson
Wait shit I bought Doom Classic Complete on the PS3 some years ago? That's gone?
Tyler Rodriguez
For now. Bethesda says it was a "mistake" and are working on getting it back up on the store.
It was down for several hours yesterday but was brought back up last night. Dunno about Xbox yet.
Cameron Phillips
The 360 version went down. The PS3 version never did.
Connor Edwards
>steam and gog are also unaffected So it was only xbox? wat
Hunter Wright
>people were dumb for expecting something other than a Co-Op Loot Shooter. Excuse me, but what kind of retard buys a co-op Wolfenstein game co-developed by Arkane and then complaints that it's a co-op Wolfenstein game co-developed by Arkane? Do these people also buy Hitman games and then lose their shit because you play the same 5 levels over and over?
Jordan Russell
sell things to college kids and younger because they are brain dead. they'll eventually figure it out and by then it'll be to late, the market is cornered
William Ramirez
idk but these companies need to fall, Its not getting better
Easton Nelson
this. its disgusting
Jaxson Rodriguez
>Fallout 76 >Wolfenstein Youngblood >Shitty DOOM ports I really hope Eternal and Elder Scrolls VI end up being good.
Jonathan Ross
Eternal may be alright but I have no idea what the fuck you're expecting from Elder Scrolls after FO4 and Skyrim.
