DUMP IT

haha o wow

youtube.com/watch?v=HofUbOvAiGM

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I know one is considering the rope because he lost like 1000s of dollars like a retard

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pedos and hatfags btfo in the same day
i can cut the seethe with a knife its stench is so thick in the atmosphere

how fucking poor and useless as a human being do you have to be in order to want to rope yourself over a few Ks lul

>over 24 hours
>still no fix
I don't think they are planning on fixing it.

NO MOMMY NOOOOOOOOO MY HATS
$1000 -> $24 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>already had unusuals for almost every class that fit my loadouts aesthetic, never planned on selling them
>unbox crate
>get unusual for a class I didn't previously have any for
>it's one of my favorite hats in the game

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WHICH CRATES ARE BROKEN?

AFAIK, 82 and 85. Possibly some others too

1-16, 61, 82, 85 are CONFIRMED

1-16, 61, 82, 85 are CONFIRMED

1-16, 61, 82, 85 are CONFIRMED

1-16, 61, 82, 85 are CONFIRMED

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>Unboxed 6 unusuals
Thanks Gaben

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CRASH IT

I knew my hoarding would pay off one day
I'm making lots of steam wallet money from selling these crates

>This inventory is not available at this time. Please try again later.
Valve knows I'm sitting on 100 crates that I never opened when I played
Fuck you gaben

youtube.com/watch?v=0QAVquq9bNs
CUT MY HATS INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY FINAL TRADE
SUFFOCATION
NO TRADING
DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF MY WALLET IS BLEEDING

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>buy key to unbox unusuals
>shit won't even load
>even crate chads are getting assfucked

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have they shut the trade server down, can't seem to buy crates off the market

>the only crate I have is #39
i-i didn't want an unusual to begin with

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FUCK YOU GABE I WANT MY UNUSUAL

>This inventory is not available at this time. Please try again later.

mfw only shit tier crates
god doesn't want me to win bruv

Has the ride finally ended?

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is it still working?

they shut it down , servers halted

>just bought a key
fugg

Too many people are on at once, so the occasional error is expected. Just refresh and try again, broskis.

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I'm trying to open a crate for few minutes now and the message is always the same

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They pulled the plug I think.

SERVERRS AREEE DOOWWWWWNNNNN
I REPEAT
SEEEEEEERVEEEEEEERS

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IT ALL COMES
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN

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Same thing I'm getting, man, I just wanted another unusual, only had one before this all went down.

THEY'RE STOPPING THE RIDE
REEEEEEEEEEE

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>Spiral Knights
You're a good man, shame that the game is in a rut.

i've never played it i just have items from it
idk how
same with the battleblock theatre
same with fucking dota

It was only for a moment, but in that moment the Unusual market tanked.

Don't know what y'all are on about

Works just fine for me

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maybe you played like an hour of it to get the spiral sallet for tf2?

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>buy key
You are the cancer that killed TF2, Valve, and the gaming industry.

That's the one, is the promotion over now and you can't get it?

looks like I'm gonna have to sell the house...

It was a great game, fuck Sega and fuck OOO

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based retard

Three Rings is not there anymore, it's Grey Haven now. Also, being a solo bomber fucking sucked, they should have changed how players could use bombs.

I hope this glitch is still active by sunday. I have an 82 crate and I'm currently on a holiday in France

I cant get to my inventory.

my, russian inventory opens just fine

my retard american friend's inventory is "unavailable", yet I see the exactly 14 empty pages and where the blank items stop

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its over you fuck

So I bought one of the hats for 3.40 usd.
Now my inventory is unavailable.
How fucked am I?

And its over, thanks for playing

Please tell me I'm not too late, I wanna sell my crates :(

It's over m8

You’re not too late

PUMP IT

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FUCK that was my only chance in life of getting an unusual. I don't spend money on lootboxes because I'm not retarded

same here

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Checked again and yeah, not everyone is affected, it seems.

Anyone that still can open their inventory, where you from?
Russian here.
not a fed I swear

yes he is the inventory servers are down

Is there anything that's safe from the iron (but fair) fist of the Bogdanoffs?
Give me a quick rundown.

I know but he said he wanted someone to tell him it wasn’t too late.

>Spend 2.49usd
>Get Ref Metal equivalent to 2 years of playing the game

>dude man like it's it great that player are losing real money because of Valve's incompetency like yeah I'm so stoked for the actual death of TF2 hah
man this is not how to cope with being poor

ah i see, you are a kind user. hope you have a good day

I'm white, my money is on the real markets, not on hats

I MADE OVER 500 DOLLARS AND YOURE FUCKING STUPID

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Bogdanoffs are heavily invested into a majority of crypto and other video game economies.
They must have sold a couple of days ago since they rarely lose money.

Nah, that's their solution for now. Not all countries are affected.

>shitton of cash into volvo's pockets
>huge surge of players
>at the cost of some anons having obnoxious hats
okay retard

Fuck, I tried the glitch once to see if it was real when all this shit started and now my backpack is unavailable

Valve added a new cosmetic case last night before they went home and somehow managed to accidentally jack the Unusual drop rate up to 100% on at least nine old crates. The oldest ones with the first-series effects were suddenly worth $10-$50 a piece so they didn't affect values too much, but Crate #82 was in the drop system for fucking ever stayed under $5 for most of the morning. That crate drops third-series effects, so Kill-a-Watt, Miami Nights, and so on are selling for as little as $3.81.

Currently inventories with these glitched unusuals are unavailable and we're all waiting to see if Valve punishes us for their mistake.

How? I missed the whole thing

What kind of a stupid fuck holds on to thousands of dollars worth of virtual cosmetic items in a shit game lmao

You didn't make shit you f2p nigger

>we're all waiting to see if Valve punishes us for their mistake.
How big will the blowback be if they blame us for their fuck up?

>Forgetting about all those "(Crime) is just surprise _____ theads"

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cope

How can they punish us for this?

I had both the crate and the key already for like over a year. I just HAPPENED to open it now.

lmaoing at tradeniggers right now. No cosmetics and only stock weapons is THE best way to play, and all the hatfags crying hopefully gets rid of them forever

Crates got up to 15 usd and you could make money from some hats crashing.
Some people quicksold series 2 hats thinking it was going down but it fucking spiked.

my whole inventory is gone after i sold a shiton of crates...

how fucked am i now?

Buying all the panic sales right now.
It's going to normalize in time and I will be rich af.

Fucking huge, considering all the money sank into it. We could probably file a class-action lawsuit and win.

There are all kinds of stupid fucks buying stupid expensive shit they don't need.

The guy who buys a 50k BMW is a sucker.

The guy who goes to a 60k a year private college is a sucker.

The guy who buys 10k worth of LARPing equipment is a sucker.

You too user

HELP PLS

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Use buy orders since first priority goes to them.

>mannco store down and people getting their inventories locked

Gabe knows what you did, he doesn't like you devaluing his economy. Assume the position.

CAN STILL ACCESS IT

Are y'all ready to accept Putin as your lord and saviour

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post YFW entire backpack's value was in weapon skins

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It's too late user, they pulled the plug, most servers are down now.

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>We could probably file a class-action lawsuit and win.
>First Nintendo and probably Valve
Who's next on the chopping block?

It's over guys, the item server is DEAD

Some people still have items shown justed grayed out.
What did you do?

I can reach my inventory but I am stopped when trying to put my crates up.
It's over, huh?

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>he thinks there isn't going to be a global decline due to the exodus of butthurt traders

youtubemultiplier.com/5d3b1b986db36-its-not-unusual-to-crash-sometimes.php

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Russian comrade here, also works at my machine.

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i made 350€ in crates

>It's going to normalize in time
Explain how it's going to normalize. Is Valve going to delete the glitched unusuals from people's inventories?

East coast USA here, still working on my end

ROLLBACK INC AHAHAHA UNUSUALBROS WE WIN AGAIN AAAAAHAHAHAH

What are some good Unusual hats for all classes? I don't really play any more, and I have a Max's severed head, but I kinda want an unusual that goes with everything.

I can access my inventory
I have no unusuals or glitched crates though

But can you put something up for sale or does it tell you the community market is fucked?

I can get to my inventory, but can't unbox my 82

>kyoani
>sadpanda
>tf2

what the fuck is going on?

This flashed for just a moment

Maintenance definitely going on

TIME TO DUMP, FELLOW CRATE CHADS

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Amazon accidentally put all of their cameras on sale for prime day at 94$

Even the 2000$ cameras and 13k lenses. It was up for an hour before they realized and nuked it.

What's crazy is they honored it. Some dude got 3 of the 13k telephoto lenses. I'm always late to these things.

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if they rollback will i lose all my steam wallet shekels?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i just preordered DOOM

Post more trader butthurt.

Anybody got backpack.tf links so we can laugh?

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Only gen 1 and 3 are fucked.
Some people dump unnaffected stuff.

Reminder that valve wont rollback unusuals you unboxed. They will make em vintage like when retards deleted bills hats or they will contraband quality and make another bazillion dollars

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I should tell you the story of mark.
Mark before today had 30 trade bots made with a custom script so he could put commands on all of them.
Today he discovered the glitch and quicksold all of his unusual hats and the crates though paypall
He made over 1000 dollars just from doing that.

My frind told me this morning, I though he was exagerating.

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the end of an era

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OH NO NO NO

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>moegafs BTFO
>pedofags BTFO
>tradefags BTFO

is /pol/ doing its magic again?

what if its a marketing thing like summer sales

THE RIDE IS ENDING COMRADES

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Make contraband quality*

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>yfw valve actually has to start making games again after people stop investing in special cosmetics in CSGO and DOTA

I'll take one left4dead3 please

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>mfw i didn't made it like pic related
fuck

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What happened, guys? Could somebody elaborate, please?

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It was an honor shitposting with you, cratechads

The tears of tradefags were worth it all

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>unusuals were a symbol of respect
unusuals were a symbol of being a cunt

>tradeniggers LEAVING the tf2 scene FOREVER
this is the best update ever thank you based valve

>wanting any new games from valve after the disaster that was their cars game

They don't know how to make video games anymore.

>tradeniggers watch their life savings blow up in smoke
>slowpokes bought keys and $5 crates and get nothing of value
>everybody loses
>mfw

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this shows how many of you braindead niggers still play this trash game

unusual hats bugged into 100% drop rate
economy tanks overnight, people who were hoarding crates cashing out

the call that saved tf2

So what happens now?

QUICK FAGS

is it better to buy keys to open my chests or just sell the chest? my inventory is working still

PLS RESPOND QUICK

Which ones

>Found out about this too late

Fuck. I wanted a glowy hat

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SELL

I didn't lose. I had 2 82s. Sold one, bought a key with it. Opened the other with the key and got a shiny sniper hat.

I spent 0$ and got a free purple hat

open for sure, chance at making your money back or making tones, GL

Bought one key to see if I could get something for Heavy, was too late to use it. Once things go back to normal I'll unbox a create or two just to see what I get.

You cannot buy or sell shit right now.
Item servers, community market, and mannco store got shut down.

>mfw I was late by minutes and couldn't sell my crates
I will survive, but man does it suck.

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So are valve just gonna roll things back and pocket the cuts they made off of everyone through market?

Pretty sure that ain't legal.

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The market itself is apparently down, just open the crates and pray that a rollback doesn’t happen

market is down retard

sell sell sell sell sell sell! The price of the hats are deflating! SELL SELL SELL!

Use keys to open if you arent memeing. No one else can buy shit cause item servers are down

Too late.

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NOOOOOO I WAS WAGESLAVING ALL THIS TIME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I bought keys the moment before they shut off the item servers. I WAS SO CLOSE.

>tradeniggers BTFO, leave in tears
>le funni Ricardo meemay hat is in
>unusuals and FREE MONEY to all who hoarded crates or were quick on the draw
>big influx of players and cash into Volvo's pockets funding the upcoming Heavy update
BEST UPDATE EVER

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We either anihilated the economy or resuscitated it. I cant make my mind on which one.

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It's already over. Your inventory being available is likely a UI mistake.

guys their not deleting the unusuals they are going un-tradable
check steam api if you have any unboxed unusuals from this glitch

If they do that they can get sued big time.
They could make shit non marketable or tradable.
The community market if you can get in shows the crates all removed.

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They're gonna make unusuals unboxed from those crates and the ones bought from the marketplace permanently untradable.

COMRADE, WE DISTRIBUTED IT OF COURSE

>never had an unusual
>have 2 bugged crates
>unbox them and get this

Even if everything gets fucked it was worth the 5 bucks to get to be Gentle Manne of Leisure.

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>They're gonna make unusuals unboxed from those crates and the ones bought from the marketplace permanently untradable.
Not legal.

why people pretend to care about this?

> "how do we fix this fuck up guys!?!?"
> delete every glitched crate from existence
> "good enough, what about the unusuals??"
>" make them un-tradable, that way we dont get backlash for rollbacking and fucking with peoples accounts and money"

(This inventory is not available at this time. Please try again later.)

WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

>Cash money tower of hats

Even if it's worthless that's a sick as fuck hat

because literally free steam wallet money

How much did you all make today, lads?

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They are going to get sued.

*Heavy voice* YES!

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Fucking awesome user

>tradefags going full /biz/
This has been the best TF2 update in years

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>never thought I'd get an unusual playing TF2
>This happens
>mfw finally get my first unusual

Don't even care if it's through a glitch, I get my own neat hat.

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12 bucks, I'm debating what to do with the money now

Might buy Deus Ex and somehting else, maybe Doom 2016 since thats only 6 bucks

INB4 ROLLBACK

this

>sold some worthless cases for $20 after x years
yeah enjoy those cosmetics you little zoomer shit

>tfw made $27 selling shitty old crates
Fuck me its a good day boys

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I usually hate unusuals for butchering the art style, but there's a few that can look good if they're themed. I consider this one of those so I got lucky. Even if it's gone tomorrow, I got to play with it today. :) Thanks anons

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oh rip you got banned, sorry dude

youtubemultiplier.com/5d3b3830bf867-when-the-item-servers-go-down.php

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Quite the elaborate ruse, getting everyone to dump cash on keys for 0s and 1s.

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Swiss user here. I can still access them

>not opening them

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>could have made money out of this but found out after it was patched
god fucking damnit

So rollback or untradeable?

Can't put anything on the market though, can you

Jokes on them I just traded virtual boxes I got for free for actual money to buy games

here

remember when this was the be-all, end-all of TF2's cancerous community? It feels so fucking quaint now.

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Why don't they add a mode where you can play without hats and stock weapons only?

>uncrate a shitty medic dead presidents hat
>was going to sell it for a demo one
>market disabled
Damn, well at least I got something I guess.

>tfw unusual stout shako is now 2 refined

They are fixing the crate drop rates now. Now more uncrating.

Nice

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Cause it would show some glaring balance issues and be utterly unfun for people who relied on their favorite crutch

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This
I got 6 hats, for characters I actually play.

rolling up to a trade server and yelling "stout shako for two refined" is going to be a thing again

>demopan wins in the end
youtube.com/watch?v=bIg3rygMAuk

He bought?

CRASH IT

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Christ. Then what can they do?

you'd think after 12 years they would have balanced the weapons properly

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>everyone in games crying that their 9 key cancer unusual is only worth 2 keys max
fucking diamonds right now

This is Volvo we're talking about, so.. no. No I wouldn't think that.

absolutely nothing

appeasing tradeshitters on a dead game isnt worth litigation, no matter how valuable traders think they are. they're nothing compared to even the CSGO scene, and absolutely no one would be worth getting sued to Valve. TF2 unusual trading is done

>yfw you never hoarded virtual shiny hats
youtubemultiplier.com/5d3b3ab302f55-tradeniggers-in-the-grave-tonight.php

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'bout $50

No they can't faggot. You clearly know nothing of the law.

they cant just wipe the unusuals already put up on the market can they? i wanted to buy a heavy unusual for cheap

It all comes full circle. We're going back, bros.

>Not pickle rick version of party rock

>erase shit people paid real world money for just because their pretend funbux economy and fat NEET traders got upset
no, they literally cant, and if they did they'd get their fucking asses handed to them again. i think valve is going to be especially legally cautious after the gambling thing

>Even if it's worthless

>hat looks snazzy as fuck
>worthless
i fucking hate tf2 economy

$0, just woke up so i couldn't take advantage of it;_;

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stout shako

I love life

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2 reclaimed

Fuck off retard. You don't even own the items. They're just on your account. They have no real world value despite what your retarded ass paid for them.

It's pretty aids, hence why I wasn't in it for the selling or trading

I just wanted a neat hat. I wanted something for Engineer specifically but this is fantastic

Based ricardo

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It all feels quite comfy lads

tradefags who scammed for virtual pixels are seething whilst us neetbros are just enjoying our free unusuals

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why do you speak when you have no idea what you're talking about? go play with rocks or something

>Buttmad trader detected
Sorry your whole inventory goes for 2ref now, hope you kill yourself sooner rather than later!

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Why do you speak like you haven't read the tos and user agreement? Go home rock banger girl.

the absolute cope from tradefags
enjoy selling your burning TC for 2 scrap

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Are you an esl or just a retard with no reading comprehension?

this is like /biz/ when bitcoin crashed

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>tradeshitter tears

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>There are people
>actual human beings out in the world
>who invested in virtual hats in an F2P game
>when they literally have no value outside of steam
>and it wasn't paltry sums like 5 or 10 dollars
>it was literally thousands of dollars
>and it's all worthless now

Post your laughing reaction images here

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THE MARKET IS DOWN

and there are also people who pay for internet
and streaming
and virtual video games
and fancy accessories that are only made to "look nice"
whats your point?

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who here /lost the chance to sell anything because too slow/?

This will probably be my biggest regret in life, I could have made tons of money with this, fuck

fuck me that's incredible

is this still working?

NOOOOOOOO MY LIFE INVESTMENTS

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>as long as they put it in their ToS, they can do anything they want ever!
again, WHY are you talking about things you know nothing about? just stop. no, don't even try anymore. it's an anonymous imageboard, take your L and just fuck off into the faceless crowd, you're just embarrassing yourself

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it really is fucking retarded
that's why people are celebrating the economy's death

>some nigger sells Stout Shako for 2 refs
>9 years later Valve goes bankrupt
Yeah I'm thinking he's based

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There's like 8 crates in the game that guarantee unusuals
Opened 2 boxes miself and got 2 unusuals
Finally own unusuals, even though they don't feel very deserved
I'll wait couple of years and hope for them to pay themselves back

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What is the success rate of waiting until they fix this shit and re-enable the market, then overselling them at the prices that retards are buying at now, so retards who don't know it got fixed buy it at high prices?

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did he ever sell his stout shako?

found the tradefag on suicide watch

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NO MY VIRTUAL HATS
I AM
FINANCIALLY
RUINED

DUMP IT

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Noticed to late and only managed to list/sell one crate.
At least I got some 3$ which I can spend on some game with devs that care.

They can take away your items that you got illegitimately. Those items have no real value. They can even ban your account for this if they wanted. Welcome to drm you underage nigger. We told you this two decades ago.

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(you)

I lost $150 dollars.
This trader, BTFO.

someone please list a Dead President's Brigade Helm
i will pay you

that's all dependent on what valve does about the flooded market

they didn't take anyone's items away during any of the other glitches (old dupe bug, giftapult bug, etc)

I have Dead President's Detective Noir which is worth 20 gaben bucks if you are interested :^)

Those fancy accessories can be sold in the real world and you can buy a fucking meal for them in times of hardship
You can't fucking do that with digital hats that glow in a computer game
And nobody markets those other things as legitimate investment opportunities

I hope you don't have a ROTH/IRA in TF2 Unusuals

is it over? did I lost the opportunity to make money?

fuck off retard

no thank you. i bought it for 4 bucks in ace's high, which i prefer for that hat

Assuming they roll back inventories.

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yes

>You can't fucking do that with digital hats that glow in a computer game
you do tho

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>he bought?

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Way to use the meme wrong you actual normie

Stop making fun of it, now some people cant send there children to collage to become LBTGBQT game programmers!!

Yep. Lament with me bro, we just barely missed it. Maybe sometime in the distant future we'll get another chance to sell useless shit in our inventories for exorbitant prices.

DOOMP EET

>he transferred $100 to steam to buy crates?
>wake up gaben. close ze market

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i would lament with you but i'm a cheater

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based cheatchad

stupid fuck
>can afford a holiday in France
>still want a free stuff like some poorfag
fuck you
>I'm not retarded
yes you are

this is the only logical step for valve i think. unless they do some cheater lament 2.0. otherwise the unusual and boxes prices go down as equal.

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>Mr.Gaben? Close it.

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I hate cheaters, but cheating in TF2 is acceptable because anyone who takes TF2 seriously is a fucking bitch.
>Just change server lol

>tfw only spent $10 real life money and sold off a bunch of junk from my inventory
as long as those $10 get refunded to me i dont care if they reverse it all

THREAD THEME
youtube.com/watch?v=zCtWTxXUzb0

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you missed the joke user

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Had a bunch on my alt from hoarding and go 3 sunbeams hats out of the 5 i unboxed, and sold the rest for steam bucks.

Feelsgood

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Valve have never in the entire history of the marketplace rolled back anything

Because doing so would open them up to lawsuits as real money is being exchanged and no warnings are being given of change in terms.

anyone getting no reponse for trading or item severs.
want to open these number 2s i got

no this one

youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

Head fags btfo!

>Fucking huge, considering all the money sank into it. We could probably file a class-action lawsuit and win.
This is fucking adorable.

Valve could remove TF2 tomorrow and all of your inventories and there's not a fucking thing you can do about retard.

You own nothing, you have the rights to nothing, it is clearly stated in Steams T&C's that they can remove anything and everything without notice and you're not entitled to shit.

>mfw I had heart surgery yesterday
>got out today, only to find that I missed the chance to dispose of the hundreds of crates I have dead on my inventory
why the fuck did I survive

cope harder tradefag. time to get a wagie job.

youtube.com/watch?v=dgUbRpdUN1w

They could give a sunbeam lament for all I care, I got my money and my unusuals out of it.

no this one
youtu.be/lGcnHvkLRb0

you're too late user, they're fixing it
keep the crate as a souvenir

>they one guy who misses the buy in, hype, peak and dump then wants to get in at zero
is the place for you my friend.

[citation needed]

>They can take away your items that you got illegitimately

They weren't obtained illegitimately though. the system that people went through to obtain the items was completely legitimate, they may have abused the broken system, but valve never put out a statement telling them not to do it. There's no difference in unboxing an unusual on one of the glitched crates as opposed to a normal one.

>those items have no real value

Except they fucking do, and valve knows this as it's where half of their income is from. If they turn around and go ACKSHUALLY THESE ITEMS ARE WORTHLESS GET FUCKED, then CSGO and DOTA 2 item economies also grind to a halt because they realise their items can be taken away at any time.

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what was the bug? can I still do something with my mann co boxes?

cmon no benefit of the doubt for those who had these for years.

>be me
>want food
>sell unusual on marketplace.tf
>get paypal money
>buy food

wow it's almost like just because something exists digitally it doesn't mean it can't hold real monetary value.

>he thinks company tos is above the law

Buying things makes me instantly lose interest in them.

Let it be known that this is what happens when you leave a game with such a bloated economy on life support with a dead skeleton crew of people that barely care anymore.
This is no one's fault but Valve themselves. They deserved this wake up call and I hope it makes them realize SOMETHING has to change.

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more like
>wait for months until someone on marketplace.tf actually wastes real life dollars on a virtual particle effect

100% drop rate on unusual hat drops from certain boxes.

Market server is shutdown and when it goes back up everything should stabilize again because by then they will have fixed the glitch.

>wake up call
Valve has done nothing but benefit here. Imagine the key and crate sale dividends.

>none of the supply crate I have is of one of the good series
>they're still all worthless.
I'd prefer to sell them instead of cheesing an unusual.

bros.....

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>Tfw I got 5 unusuals for 10€.
To think there are people that spent hundreds on these things.

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Deus Ex is less than a dollar right now if you still have some money you want to spend

You can also make money selling your bath water.

Are you still a total faggot nobody likes for doing so? Absolutely.

fake. checked the site just now after see'ing this post

While they're getting money out of this short term you have to imagine the long term effects of this.
Even a rollback won't 100% fix the economy in TF2 and it's likely going to impact other games as well. I think this made a lot of people realize how big of a joke unusuals and lootboxes are.

nice bait

nobody is gonna buy fat incel bathwater

what a shame, thanks user.

>valve
>fixing anything

yeah no

Yeah, lootboxes had such a stellar reputation before Valve proved that investing in virtual hats carries risk.

Fake and gay

>471822869
Fake

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Seething tradecuck

if you hadn't added that very last bit it would've been believable

What a long and roundabout journey it’s been

Good bait, checked website.

I've sold jo videos because I'm twinkish with a bd

Not nearly enough /biz/ style Pink posting in here.

yeah they wouldn't do that since that would beg for a lawsuit

the only options valve has is to either just let what happened happen or rollback hard and give everyone their money back.

>everything should stabilize again

except for the massive flood of unusuals on the market that will destabilize everything.

cope and seethe, tradie

Didn't have any crates but sold my cards and other useless shit and bought 4 shitty shiny hats for lIle $8. Kinda based because I got back I to tf2 last month.

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>already spent the money i got from selling crates on dota items
will volvo actually roll these back?

i'd wager they'll do a rollback and refund everyone. it must be such a headache to do, though

Somebody would, people even buy shitty underwear

DemoPAN?

I wouldn't blame them. It's people like you that prevent Valve from making any new games.

Arigato...Ricardo...

actually on second thought it's probably impossible to roll this shit back because people have already sold their glitched hats and shit. plus, a bunch of legit unusuals were probably sold in the fud craze. the damage is already done regardless of what they do

>You stop valve from making games by giving valve money

Okay....

Valve doen't male games because they don't need to you little cuck.

Byball means let them continue

I just got two games for free because some free virtual lootboxes I got years ago were now worth 2.50 a pop

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or just sell for the buyout if you don't care and want quick cash
yeah but it's still worth money, so are you a btfo poorfag? Absolutely.

this whole thing is a shitshow, i feel a little bad about traders but its nice to see activity in the tf2 community

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What is the legality of this? Why would marking them as untradable be illegal?

yeah that's quite literally what he meant you fucking retard

>i feel a little bad about traders

Fuck them. They are responsible for what Valve has become.

I've seen this gif for years and just now realized that the joke isnt "Spy laughing at tragedy" but "Spy taunting after a Spycicle kill"

Man my brain is small

this whole thing is a shitshow, I feel nothing for traders and it's nice to see activity in the tf2 community

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>only have shit crates
just

GUYS STOP THIS YOU ARE RUINING PEOPLE

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he means they can't just take them away, as it would be false advertising or basically theft.

oh right, theyre the reason why valve isnt making updates, or even new games, i feel great now

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i think rolling back is not ideal for them. they make absolutely no money off of player to player trades

>feel a little bad about traders
You really shouldn't, they killed TF2.

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anyone braindead enough to invest in virtual hats deserves it

The only problem I have with this is I don't know what unusual to get.

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Uhm yeah?
Why would Valve waste time and energy on a game when they can get the same money or more with a rarely distributed fucking 3D model?

>250px-Demopan_Large(small)

fuuuuuck

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>250px-Demopan_Large(small)

>they can't take away my virtual items that i don't actually own!
>that would be illegal!
>i know because i played Ace Attorney once

go and sue them
i double dare ya motherfucker

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wait is it still bugged?

As far as I'm aware the promo is permanent

>never bought unusuals, hats, cosmetics, or crates
>still won't buy unusuals, hats, cosmetics, or crates
>will continue to shit all over dumb niggers with flaming dildo hats because they're shit at the game
feels good not being 12, I gotta say

>sadpanda
what is wrong?

So honest question, how is tf2 now? Last time I played it was like +6 years ago. Did anything change or is it still the same game as before? What about drops? Same as before? The whole hat thing revived some of my interest in the game

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user...please sit down...

user, this unusual crash is good because of the reasons you listed.

When everyone has unusuals, the market becomes worthless, imagine those tens of thousands of dollars investment in unusual hats just gone.

t. spy main who sits in corner with cloak and dagger

Its dead? Where you been all day.

preorder?

JUST
BUY
NOW
!!!!

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>tradefags are literally leaving the game because of this
imagine the ONLY reason you're still playing an over 10 year old game is to trade around virtual flaming rubber gloves

these fags are literally the reason valve can just get away with taking a bunch of shitty community made cosmetics and call it an "update". You reap what you sow, faggot.

>Tfw I'm a crate hoarder and I have almost all those crates
>I'm at work and my inventory is frozen
Hello darkness my old friend

Same game, Pyros got a buff for a while, hats are going to be even sillier.

some hero got a backup

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>tfw traders leaving will make valve have to make new content to get money

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>took a week off to travel
>goldrush of unusual hats
>panda got nuked by the Fakku jew
Why in the fuck I did this? I fuck up big time

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/vbiz/ - Virtual Currency is my favorite board

Wait, sadpanda is kill? WHEN? NO, FUCKING NO.

Pyro and Spy have been nerfed to hell.
Soldier and sniper are both broken if you have any skill what so ever.
Conch + Black Box will carry you hard if you are bad.

damn, finally gaben wake up

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>some hero got a backup

Even if he is legit, that is not the full backup. Exhentai is roughly estimated to be over 150TBs, thats if the guy who claims this is also legit.
twitter.com/Sakis_Husband/status/1154635165567729666

anybody get a duped shovel? buy for 4 keys

OHHAOHA CRY SOME MOORE! GJAGHAAA

today

>Close it
>WAKEY-WAKEY MISTER GABEN

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What about the playerbase? Are people playing the game or is it all congo stuff or whatever I heard several months back.

AAAHHHHHH. This hurts my heart and my penis. Was it a DMCA or something?

Which crates did you open user?

Mostly people playing but there are a few friendlies and the occasional hacker.

Netherland passed anti-loli laws

Crate 82 alone was bought on the market 41,000 times before the system went down. Some of the hats were going for 3 cents USD.

What are the odds that everyone that used this bug gets straight up perma banned from TF2?

>Was it a DMCA or something?

no, the netherlands decided that drawings are real and have human feelings so lolies are banned now there, and the server is located in netherlands aswell so yeah.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

VALVE ARE THE GOOD GUYS, FUCK YOU EPIC SHILLS

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>lie and say you made a backup
>nobody else does it because you did
>laugh as everyone panics when it's all gone

t. retard who didn't take advantage of free money

0%
They would ban most of the playerbase that keeps the game alive

Tradefags deserve their shitty economy to crash, without them enabling valve to keep making shitty updates w/ just cosmetics we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. A Tf2 without trading is a better game because maybe the devs will actually give a shit about it.

based netherlands cleaning up degenerates

When you neck yourself because you sunk thousands of dollars into a hat simulator

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I made a profit today, so yes.

>pyro nerfed to hell
>soldier and sniper broken

what the hell are you talking about? the soldier was always a powerful class, same as the sniper, and the pyro is still op af with the new airblast and flame particles

youtubemultiplier.com/5d3b4bac407f2-tf2-the-end-of-economy.php

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agreed
maybe trading should stay but a game having an economy is a terrible idea

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is it worth to buy unusals now? Crate prices will drop as soon as they fix rates so is it good idead to dump some money even on cheaper ones with ok effects?

Surely they can just move the server, r-right?

Who said valve are the good guys? They never do any work and when they do they break shit
however
>he likes epic

Yeah, Tf2 is supposed to be a game not the stock market for autists

easier to just wash your hands of it and move on instead of having to do this again in a year or two

The new airblast is worse than the old one because it doesn't stun and is less disorientating for enemies. The afterburn is worse too because the flamethrower usually kills by the time max afterburn is reached. Pyro also can't combo anymore and most of his best weapons which weren't amazing in the first place got nerfed.

>Surely they can just move the server, r-right?

He could TRY, but hes not going to try.

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the hats were introduce in 2009, and the trading in 2010, the game got the last good update in 2012 imo and till 2013 the whole community and economy was healthy af, the bots killed the trading and valve itself stopped giving a shit about the game not because of the cosmetics but because valve

>tfw never cared about trading
>probably deleted countless of the crates that are now giving out inusuals
>might never get an unusual now

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pretty much
>v-valve is gonna delete y-your hats!! t-they're gonna get rolled back!!

The best things about happenings is the shitposters mashups, thank you anons.

youtube.com/watch?v=sAWsc-2CVo4
Thread Theme.

>got hats I wanted
>sold any I didn't and got my first copy of Skyrim
I dedicate this to you Todd, you beautiful son of a bitch.

hoping that trading and economy gets killed off entirely and valve focuses on updates
every company would do the same, sit on their ass, it was basically a money printer

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I'm actually kinda worried now if they don't fix the bug at least, they clearly just crashed an entire economy and people will most likely forget about it in a week.
Imagine just how much leeway Valve actually have.

wtf

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>never paid for a key in my life, only traded scrap for them
>unboxed a unusual charmer's chapeau god knows how long ago
>sold it for all of the Dungeon Defenders dlc

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Gaben started the rollback

>worse airblast
the airblast just envolves the entire body so the pyro can airblast at any angle even looking at the floor
>worse afterburn
the afterburn is the same and the afterburn of the flares is ridiculously long

the only nerf the pyro got is the easy combos, but is still an op class to W+M1 or just spaming flares specially with the scorcher, is the most unfunny class to playing against so stop saying bs

*bar mitzvah music intensifies *

man the partyvan servers gonna be talkin about this all night

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oh fuck no, if they actually remove the items I'm gonna fucking drop the game for good, tradecucks should be mocked, not prioritized

>Boo hoo my wrist hurts so I'll let 150TB of art go into the void
Fucking pay a whore to click for you or some shit you chink

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>guys stop it!! you're g-gonna get banned! V-valve has to fix this!

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Afterburn is always worse except for flares which is the same and the max duration by which time most classes are dead anyway.
Airblast is still worse too, you can't change my mind. I play Pyro enough to know.
Pyro is not OP, it's trash just like Spy right now. Soldier and sniper are ridiculous. I don't even play Soldier that often and I still obliterate with him because he's easy and ridiculously good

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The most fun i had in years, lurking several high tier trade servers and its total madness, based volvo doin it again!

>bought key
>wallet balance went down
>key not in inventory

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This is why game items need to be based on block chain.

there you go, a main pyro hurt because his main is literally the most op, easy and broken class and people saying that makes him feel skillless

BLONALD BRUMPFT

WHAT THE FUCK, VALVE

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BOGGED

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>valve is not banning people
>valve is insted removing the game from peoples account

What? Thats just hilarious if thats true

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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no
no!
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU CAN'T TAKE MY THREE DOLLARS UNUSUALS PLEASE NO I-I-I EARNED THEM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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he bought?
delete ze key.

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t. Soldierfag
He's so easy and takes such little skill he's the second highest scorer on my list.
The Medic and Engi were on custom servers.
Pyro has zero crutches unlike sniper and solly and every class except engie has a way to deal with afterburn + healthkits + water.
Pyro is trashcan tier I play him enough to know

There is party van servers still?

Partyvan is still around ? I haven't been on in years

Read again, genius.

bro are u saying that a class who have more mechanics and needs a lot more aim than pyro is easier? you need to learn how to rocket jump, strafe, aim well, even you have a subclass market garden soldier for fun! what the subclass for pyro? pyro shark? come on dude, the soldier may have the splash and bad players may abuse it a lot but is not easy to play it good

You got the money back?

yup, posted every day of the weekend, Friday Saturday Sunday

>Read again, genius.

Oh, well nevermind. Still would have been funny.

Look at the corner, obviously not

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>pick up GTA V and New Vegas with money leftover for the sale from scamming boxes on the market

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twitter.com/TeamFortress/status/1154830731333390337

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>gtav
why

EHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oopsie woopsie looks like we made a lil fuckie wucky! the code monkeys here at valve are working very hard to fix thiiiiiiings uwu!

HAPPENING
Fuck, going to take a nap, good night thread.

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>next few hours
if they're this clueless i'm thinkin we're keepin the hats.

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It is. All you have to do is shoot at feet. Also pyro needs to know all those mechanics too for flares, flare jumping, reflects because most Rocket Launchers have different projectile speeds, and rocket surfing.
Pyro has no subclass because valve kill combos.
The only reason Soldier is so good is because valve refuses to nerf him like they nerfed almost everyone else. Pyro still doesn't have a good flamethrower and yet almost every soldier rocket launcher is good.
So yeah, Pyro is trash tier because it takes a lot more effort to play him well with less payoff.

What is "a couple of hours" in valve time?

kek

KEK

K E K
E
K

Motherfucking auroz still on tf2 lmfaooo

TOO LATE FAG I GOT IT MADE

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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what is with so many retarded zoomers trying to get the lament distributed? this is ours, fuck off and die

>actual post from them that isnt a retweet
>last one was almost a year ago

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And so we enter endgame.

ROBIN JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>. Also, being a solo bomber fucking sucked, they should have changed how players could use bombs.
Can't believe they nerfed shards

B-B-B-B-B-BUT I'M A GOOD BOY (formerly so(y) AND I WANT COMPENSATION FOR NOT BEING A CHEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck the tf team for spoiling tradekeks, if they don't at least give me back my money I'm gonna fucking boycott every thing they fucking do until I die

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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yeah new dunkin donuts opened

Imagine if they will make all "new" unusual untradable and unmarketable.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>second day of my first job in a year
>this entire thing happens during my shift

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yeah how many rocket jumps you do with reflect rockets? stop talking about thing other people do, most of pyros dont do that either because is not neccesary or either because they cant do it, you say soldier is easy because he can do splash damage, is like saying demo is a easy class because you can sticky spam, so where are the airshots, the rollouts, the good rocket/sticky jumps? so you are saying that most of people that play these classes can do that, stop talking bullshit you pyrofag, you main the easiest class on the game you can literally W+M1 people while spaming M2 from time to time and destroy a whole team, that just show how op the pyro is

>almost every rocket launcher is good
just default, original and cowmangler, do you see you know nothing about what are you talking?

that's honestly the best case scenario for everyone

If they give me back the money I don't care, I'll just save it to buy some vidya. If they make them untradeable, I don't care, I wasn't in it for the profit.

If they delete them, it'll be insane.

1-18, 82 and 85

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I SPENT MY FUCKING STUDENT LOANS ON THIS SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Cause people want halos I guess

you have a job now. why do you give a shit about steam bucks?

>If they delete them, it'll be insane.
this, I just wanted a cool hat for once

>tfw crate hoarder
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ULeDlxa3gyc

Yeah but if they delete without compensation, it's going to cause an insane amount of backlash

A

they aren't THAT retarded, right?
they won't suck tradekeks clits that hard, RIGHT?????

They said they'll have an update later tonight, so we'll see.

>Investing money in a forced artificial supply and demand economy
user is as dumb as MTG 'investors'

I love bizjacks so much.

Direct Hit is great and Beggar's Bazooka is better at close range than stock.
I wasn't talking about reflect jumps, just flare jumps and basic reflects.
Demo is easy too, just less easy.
Hard to play/badness ranking
Pyro=Spy>Heavy>Engie>>>Scout=Demo>>>Medic>>>>>Soldier=Sniper
If you disagree you are literally wrong because they are also ranked on how their weapons have been nerfed. Soldier and sniper have not had a single significant nerf apart from the Razorback nerf AND most of their weapons are good.
Just because you can do rollouts doesn't mean soldier takes more skill. Pyro still takes more because you don't have any good mobility tools except for detonator (which SEVERELY damages you) and jetpack (which takes up the most valuable slot for pyro) and you are still expected to be the ambush class. Also, soldiers benefit the most from lucky crits and of course splash damage. They can just kill you AND themselves even if you are about to win a fight with one at close range.

>beggar's bazooka better at close range than stock
a thing so fucking puntual like that makes you think the bazooka is actually a good launcher and not a wacky and meme one, god lord i will just stop this right here you know nothing about the game and still you keep talking bullshit

>class is easier and simpler
>THAT JUST MEANS IT'S HARDER TO PLAY AS!!!!!!!!!!!!

based dude
got 3 unusuals for free
thanks valve
fuck tradefags

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HAHAHAHAHAQHAH

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retard can just sell the keys back at full price

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TIME TO ENJOY THE GAME BECAUSE IT'S FUN AND NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE A DUMBASS WHO INVESTED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO IT

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>feelsgoodman.png

Beggar's is only good when there's a bunch of idiots close to each other. Otherwise it's pretty shit besides overload jumping

$0
fuck the trading block

what do you guys think? how many tradefags will commit suicide in the next couple of days?

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Whoops you're right, forgot to mention Black Box and Conch too which are also broken and which valve still hasn't nerfed.
You know, the Black Box, that weapon that heals on hit? That thing only the medic is also able to do with a worse weapon? Yeah, that thing, totally fair and balanced.
All of the flamethowers are pretty much the same damage and effect wise with the only variable being that airblast is worse for everything except stock meanwhile soldier's weapons actually change him. You are soldier cocksucker scum just like the devs

>Too late to get a free unusal
>Just in time to enjoy traders go nuclear all day

Fair trade if you ask me. Not sure what Valve will do but I hope the unusuals stay just to rub salt in the wound.

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>black box
>broken
holy shit what a retard

It's literally harder in every situation to play as pyro. They don't get nearly as many tools as soldier and while pyro is shit and medium/long range, soldier is good at any range and you die as a pyro if you can't time reflects right up close every time

the conch means you jump 2 or 3 times and you are weak af, waiting to the conch to heal you is fucking stupid and only pub soldiers who doesnt give a shit if they die all time play that way, why the hell you think is op and broken? you jump using it, you take a couple damage and you have pretty much 50 or less hp come on are you serious?

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11 euros

It is completely broken. What would you say if fucking pyro got a weapon that heals from afterburn? It's the same shit.
That implies you will always be rocket jumping everywhere. One jump will usually get you in a decent position and there are also medpacks around.

>they spam projectiles at you
reflect
>they spam bullets at you
just run with the powerjack
>you kill 125 and 150hp classes with just 2 seconds of M1 at close to mid range
>you spam sniper with flares across the map unable them to properly aim
>you dont want to fight against someone? just reflect him
>no aim for flares? use the shotgun!

you are fucking stupid