No HP bar on enemy

Its main fault is that all of those things make the game boring as fuck.

Hey can we not do the XIV thing of shitposting about their game to start a thread?

Anyway, has anybody played with thrown weapons and iterative attacks? I see that thrown stuff like javelin will magically return to you at the end of the round but does this work with iterative attacks too? AFAIK quickdraw isnt in Kingmaker

30 hours in and have not seen a single thrown weapon.
Or a goddamn sling which i wanted to use.
And every type of mage is stuck with a fucking crossbow.

Sling isnt in, but Javelin is definitely available and I think throwing axe is as well.
Whats the issue with mages using crossbows?

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No other way I'm afraid.

I once tried a Javelin focused Scion/Dragon Disciple build, Javelins aren't too hot I guess, mostly because most javelins are kinda shit, if you had better weapons they wouldn't be a problem, the crafting mod helps with this.
And yeah, there's no ammo problems in Kingmaker so javelins, darts and the likes can be thrown indefinitely, luckily, problem is, they generally suck compared to proper DEX based ranged weapons in the hands of a ranger.

wow, that hit home
I was able to finish NWN without any understanding of the TT rules, get literally good

Loot in DnD-based games was never like in other RPG's

Agreed. There are throwing weapons but they don't appear until chapter 2 or 3. There are also slingstaves that require a proficiency to use them, making them useless too. But nothing wrong with a mage thief using bows, sneak attack is hella overpowered anyway.

I was thinking an Inquisitor or Slayer to get juicy bonuses to damage and just throw a billion spears a round. I doubt it will compete with bows but could be more fun

Play pillars instead its a better game

bad bugged game with shit combat and terrible mechanics
and this comming from someone who plays D&D since the launch of 3.0ed

but PF is a better system than D&D
especially 5e

Ranged inquisitor is ass, no matter the weapon used. Like, one of the things that elevates the class is the teamwork feats working solo and you get the most mileage in melee, close or reach.

Slayer can work since you bypass feat requirements and have the extra sneak attack dice and studying works from a distance, so you are ok

Slayer will be better than inquisitor since you get sneak attack damage on your throws, so yeah, it will probably be better than what I've used due to the stacks on Sneak Attack+Studied enemy bonuses, I still don't think it's even remotely enough to compete with a ranger using a longbow, but those are admittedly high end bullshit.

Again, the big problem is that there's virtually no javelin for a big part of the game, you need to hunt down the skeletal salesman in specific regions to get the Javelins he sells, meanwhile a Ranger gets stupid shit like Eater of Metal as early as Act 2.

I think you might want to go back to AAA lootbox titles. Trying to learn real RPG mechanics is for people who aren't total retards.

Did they ever manage to make the kingdom management fun? I gave up like 10 pages after the game was released.
It's a fucking power fantasy about having your own barony and they somehow made it as interesting as being some idiot in middle management.

It's very fun and balanced now
as long as you savescum

yeah I'm not a fan of playing pure bow builds because they just feel kinda cheesey in pathfinder.

Hopefully Owlcat's next game has some crafting additions to better balance weapons, although nothing will really compete with a named drop at level anyway

The simulation in itself is very simple and mostly feeds in itself with few rare cases, so no.
It's more of an extra Roleplaying opportunity and NPC characterization.

The faster loading screens, better sorting, better adjustment of timelimits and Effortless difficulty help make it easier to manage

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Crafting in Pathfinder is something you kinda have to build into, though.

You could always play Archerdin. No feat bypassing, less feats in general so you have to make it count and RANGED SMITE EVIL for the occasional fun.
Though a Paladin would work with javelins too, you could make even a masterwork one decent with Weapon Bond till you star getting a few good ones.

I'm fine with named drops living up to their names, the problem is when certain weapon categories get ungodly amounts of named drops at any part of the game while other things get a big middle finger, making entire weapon categories subpar.
If crafting was a thing it wouldn't be that much of a problem since a +5 crafted weapon wouldn't be that worse off a +5 named weapon, problem is that until it was modded in, there was no crafting at all, for no good reason I have to say.

Take your own example, why would you want to spec into a javelin slayer for ranged damage when even a bow slayer will vastely outperform the javelin slayer at any point of the game and be actually viable from the start of the game instead of needing to wait some 30/40 hours to simply get going?

Rather than having to make dedicated crafting builds or a substandard crafting system that needs just resources, they should have made better use of the artisan system. Aside from their gifts, for the weapons/armor of their expertise, they should be able to add an enhancement or two per equipment piece. The level of enhancements you can add would depend on your kingdom stats and if you have upgraded their lab too(kinda how Scroll seller they added gets more shit wth moe arcane ranks you have)

Thats true, but even just craft wondrous item can do a lot on a cleric