Switch performance has reached a new low. This is just getting ridiculous now

The point is that the problem is clearly with the game rather than the systems

>visually identical to the PS4 Pro that drops to the 30s while rendering at 1080p
Square doesn't care.

>switch4.webm
>switch5.webm
it's pretty sad you made 5 webms to shitpost with and people immediately noticed PS4 pro has the same problem

Pc always wins baybee

>turns out its just a poorly optimized game in general

lmao

we would if it was on PC that is

>people bought the pro
For that amount of money you could have bought a good GPU

A momentary drop to 18 fps is hardly comparable to the entire level running at 7 fps.

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It's ok when Sony does cinematic framerates.

it's too late bro, you lost.
people found out about your scheme.
better luck next time.

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switch and PS4 don't even share the same servers so you can't compare user levels between the platforms.
PS4 is noted as dropping to 10fps and averages around 34fps in most user levels.

This is a far cry from the "stable 60fps" you claimed yesterday.
DF blew you the fuck out.

>A momentary drop to 18 fps is hardly comparable to the entire level running at 7 fps.
As opposed to the usual 19fps? Lmao what even is the point of your shitty thread? The ps4 is definitely not ideal either. Doesnt matter if its 7fps or 18fps. Its sub-30. Neither games in heavily condensed areas perform well. It's not a switch problem. It's a square problem. (The game is still amazing though cant lie)

>This is a far cry from the "stable 60fps" you claimed yesterday.
I'm not the person you're talking about.

>momentary
OH NO BROS IT GOES FROM 18 FPS TO 20 FPS SO MUCH MORE PLAYABLE

>A momentary drop
Your entire webm struggles to reach 20.

The PS4 averages at 35 fps for user created worlds and 60 for the campaign. Switch averages 15 fps for the user created worlds and 30 for the campaign. They're hardly comparable.

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Square can't even do stable 4k/60 on the MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE IN THE MARKET let alone on a ps4 pro.
Where the fuck are the pc versions of these games.

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I guarantee you are
>has at least 5 webms of it saved to his desktop
>got spammed like crazy yesterday
>conveniently coincided with Fire Emblem's launch
admit it, you're obsessed.

>consoles now can't even hit 20fps
What fucking timeline even is this?

PS4 Pro sometimes hits 35fps in user created levels at 1080p with switch graphics.
And it drops to 17 for extended periods of time, but it's okay if sony does it I guess.

The PS4 pro*
Don't forget that part.
You're right, they are hardly comparable.
Because one is supposed to be a 4k console and one is a tablet.
So why were you comparing them so hard yesterday before Digital Foundry released their video?

I'm sorry?

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>So why were you comparing them so hard yesterday before Digital Foundry released their video?
I wasn't?

>b-but if I choose a lighter user-level is is silky smooth 35fps on my 4k pro console

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>when you try to make a shitpost thread but have to go straight into damage control mode

the absolute state of this snoyboy

And that is literally the best case scenario, LOL.
Ps4 pro really is the cuck choice.

>it's just one game!

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>The PS4 averages at 35 fps for user created worlds while switch averages 15
What's even your source on this? Your ass? And it doesnt even matter if it did average 35fps. There should be NO major dips like that on either versions. The fact that you're even defending the ps4 port shows how much you dont even care about the framerate, but more about how much Nintendo lives in your head rent free. Absolutely pathetic lmaoo

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It's the snoy life, always on damage control, never have any exclusives.

good lord how can anyone play with such shittty fps like this? Even 60fps is a bad joke these days.

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>IT'S OKAY IF SNOY DOES IT!

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>Fire Emblem getting great reviews
>Snoys start shitposting that anime minecraft runs at 34fps 1080p instead of 10fps 1080p
>not a new IP address
>he's frantically trying to find more webms to save his shit thread
but by all means, continue.
It really is remarkable that the PS4 pro can play a 2.5D castlevania clone that's on PC.

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THAT is what you chose to show off?
Literally nothing at sub-40 fps?

>same problem
>double the framerate
cope harder nigger

Refute this.

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>He defends 17fps
LOL, COPE harder.

>he finds one corridor without framedrops on cuckstation
LOL, refute this

wow, so you started the game with user-levels where the framerate is shit, then when PS4 pro has shit framerate too you switch to story mode's tutorial where there's nothing on the screen?
Nice try.

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Jesus christ you fags almost tricked me into buying the Switch version.

Despite framerate issues on some user made maps, Dragon Quest Builders 2 is an amazing, but admittedly poorly optimized game. Even with that said, a splendid time is guaranteed to all who play it regardless of platform!

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yikes! buy a 144hz + monitor and stop living in the dark ages!

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>frame rate thread
>start losing the argument
>"I-it's a graphics thread now!"

>he defends 9 fps
LMFAO KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT

this is next level damage control, he's going to slowly start acting like he was just pretending to be retarded, just watch.

The thread was not about framerate rather the Switch's consistent poor performance showing?

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Whats happening in this webm

>OP gets blown the fuck out again

Lmao like pottery

based console pacifist chad

who defended it?
But you defended 17fps.
Stop projecting.

My nephew plays Minecraft on his ipad or whatever and that runs exactly as bad as this. I don't think he'll give a shit.

And then you post something that was confirmed to be a glitch that will be patched.

wow I'm definitely going to buy a PS4 pro now to play pixelshit with pixel shells, truly a new era of high performance right here

>he now drops his autism folder
LOL, how many months of your life have you wasted SEETHING?

Gee, I wonder if all those candles have to do with such shit framerates.

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>Never lower than 40fps
woah

>switch1.webm
you said it wasn't you yesterday.
And yet you have all the same webms you posted previously, and they're named like you made them yourself and they're sitting on your desktop.

I can only deduce that you're a liar and have been making all these threads in an autistic rage.

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It wasn't me, it was someone who copy pasted my thread. I'm willing to bet the filename was different in that other thread.

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thats some shit tier coding as that shit could run on much worse specs at 60fps easily.

the game is physically slowing down retard.

OP, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stop pretending, your auttism folder gives you away.
And your absolute desperation to defend the ps4.

>Still isn't sub 40fps
I'm supposed to be horrified, right?

Also, both games run in native 1080p. So yeah, nice of Sony to have a PS4 Pro and barely run the game twice as fast as fucking mobile hardware

This was confirmed to get patched from particle effects to sprites to eliminate the slowdown.

considering the switch is slowing down running a 2D platformer yes.

This. It literally looks like a Sega Saturn game. You'd have to be retarded to think it's anything but coding

see

>A momentary drop to 18 fps is hardly comparable to the entire level running at 7 fps.
You say while OP clearly shows the level running at 12 fps on Switch and 18 fps on PS4 Pro?

you are a liar, you've posted the same webm with the same filenames so I know it was you
boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/switch1.webm/
If someone saved the webm it would default to a post number as its filename.
It is unlikely someone would go to the trouble to rename a webm they download to the exact same filename.

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Shit game optimization.
People told me to get in on the PS4 and I did and it runs just as shitty.
Fuck this game. The devs really need to fix this shit.

This is actually being caused by the snowflakes of all things. It's being reworked.

You can't just post that and not explain what its going on.

But Yea Forums told me the PS4 version is literally perfect!
Would snoyfags LIE?

Switch running games like this would be understandable if it was exclusively a handheld system.
Waiting for that LiteSwitch.

Why can't I build anything as good!?
At least Brittany is cute

Oh no, if only we lived in a world where a game can be patched for issues.

wagecuck that takes his job too seriously trying to prevent a customer from video taping their photos instead of paying for them to be printed.

It wasn't me but okay. I noticed someone copy pasting my threads and I even commented "I didn't make this thread" in one of them.

Considering the Switch can run much more complex games I don't think you need to pretend to be stupid.

Christ OP got fucking annihilated in the first post. What a sad pathetic loser he is lmao.

>2 years into the lifecycle the switch is already getting pushed to its limit with current games.
With the PS5 and Scarlet coming out the switch is not going to get anymore 3rd party games.

>tfw been playing games at 144fps now I get motion sickness looking at anything under at least 110
bros consoles have some really good games but I just can't fucking play them anymore

Why are you so mad we're having more fun than you?

All the hardware is in the hand though. You're not gaining anything by getting the cutdown version.

care to explain why you feel compelled to make these threads so often then?
we have confirmed that even if you aren't responsible for all of them that your webms are being reposted under the same filename as the opening posts frequently.
Is there something wrong in your life or do you think they make for good discussion?

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>With the PS5 and Scarlet coming out the switch is not going to get anymore 3rd party games.
They'll have to make games tailor made for it then considering investors will have a shitfit their companies are ignoring a 50 million userbase.

That's what happened with the Wii

Fuck sake. This is the power of PS4 PRO? How is OP supposed to recover?

So what is your excuse here? And that is on the second attempt to make a not shit playstation 4

If there's anything Witcher, DOOM and Wolfenstein prove, it's that developers can get anything running on Switch perform the required concessions and Switchfags don't notice or care.

I own a Switch, but I find the tribalism you display fascinating. You even used the word "we", as though you were an ambassador for some larger group of people.

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>buying another $500 console to get sub-30 FPS once again
Just get a PC already

based detective poster

>care to explain why you feel compelled to make these threads so often then?
I am irritated at how blatantly underpowered the Switch is.

OH NO NO NO NO

LMFAO mentally ill and traumatised. Damn this is so good. Anyway, I'm going back to playing FE, which is superb btw.

So you are literally SEETHING, not a good look.
Make you look weak and pathetic.

NOOOOOOOOOO

What the fuck, guys?
I thought voxels were the future!!!!??

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Switch owners care about value and overall quality.If you make a good port of a current gen game, It'll sell.

If you make a shit port of a super old game (Saints Row, Ass Creed III, any of Capcom's ports) and then overcharge for it, people will not buy it

Considering I own a Switch, Nintendo isn't putting out games I care about and third party ports run like dogshit yes.

>blatantly underpowered
Considering the battery life before the die shrink it was powerful enough.

Snoys ITT at a new low lmao
>it's ok when sony has sub 20 fps

It's cheaper and it's not as flimsy as the old one with joycons.
Also it's not comparable to home consoles because it's a true handheld.

Those test are done on user made levels, those levels are made by autismo's with an insane amount of blocks/objects. those levels are pushing the system. Even on PC if you go on minecraft servers with insane buildings a pc will struggle.

So stay SEETHING and COPING, incel.
Maybe have sex once in a while.

>user continues to be mad about game console that doesn't focus on performance or graphical prowess for not being the best in regards to performance or graphical prowess

Bruh, look at this dude...

OH, THE OLD CINEMATIC MELIES KINO
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Méliès

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>Switch owners care about value and overall quality.If you make a good port of a current gen game, It'll sell.
The only way to make a "good port" is to dramatically reduce the resolution, texture and audio quality to try and get the FPS to a somewhat acceptable range to trick people into thinking the game is running well. Countless ports demonstrate this. And as someone who actually cares about audio/visual fidelity you can imagine why this might irritate me.

OP BTFO

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The levels on switch are exactly the same in that regard, so why is it okay if sony does it?

>PS4 pro and Switch render the game at the same resolution and graphics
what
how

>b-but Nintendo is worse than our terrible performance!!!! Dont look at sony!! Look at Nintendo!!!!
LMFAO THE ABSOLUTE STATE

OK HOLD UP WE NEED OUR GUY BACK TO END THIS RIDE NOW

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>I am irritated at how blatantly underpowered the Switch is.

No, you are irratated that the Switch didn't fail like you desperately wanted it to. Instead the Switch has become one of the most successful consoles in history and home to some of the most critically acclaimed games of all time

This is what traumatises you. This is what you obsess over. And this is why you've wasted the past THREE FUCKING YEARS of your sad pathetic life trying to fight against, for no reason other than childish infantile jealousy.

You're the biggest loser I've ever witnessed on the Internet and thats saying something.

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Because you're an autistic fag, we know.

>Also it's not comparable to home consoles because it's a true handheld.
You shouldn't compare the Switch or the lite to home consoles to begin with unless you're retarded. You're now buying the inferior version of a console due to shitposting literally damaging you.

I question this assertion.
Disliking how underpowered the switch is would be a very rational opinion to have.
It would even justify some of your posting.
But you made this thread purposefully ignoring how terrible the performance is on PS4 pro, which would imply that rather than being upset at switch hardware you are instead trying to swear it by not acknowledging that on this particular occasion it was the game's fault.
This kind of deception does not read as someone genuinely concerned about hardware performance but instead someone involved in platformwar faggotry that will do anything to attack what he sees as competition.
Am I getting warmer?

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At this point, never let omega force make a game. They seem to always fuck up on performance.

PS4 pro is only 1080p native, not even using fake scaling,
It also uses the same assets and post-processing.
It has more distant rendering and shadows than switch but that's it.

Fucking brutal. But true.

>nintenbabies Really believe that the cost of downgrading and trying to get a game made for the PS5/scarlet gen to run on a switch will worth it.

handhelds have always been a generation or more behind than the dedicated home consoles of that time, I don't know what you were expecting
focus your attention on SE's shoddy optimisation instead, it's clearly a problem at that level if they can't a stable 60fps on a fucking PS4 Pro of all things

>ps4 pro gets announced
>muh 4k
>muh 60fps
>in reality 99% of games still don't run at 4k and below 30 fps
at least the switch didn't lie about having shit specs.

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I already have the original Switch and it fucking sucks to play it in TV mode on 4K TV.
It should have been only a handheld from the start without joycons.

>Mortal Kombat 11 looks like an early PS3 game
>Becomes one of the highest selling 3rd party Switch games
Yes, yes it will. Witcher 3 will sell too

I bought a Switch launch day and timestamps on my internal screenshots of BOTW to prove it. I'm pissed that the Switch hasn't got good games since Odyssey and continues to get shit ports.

LMFAO OP is already retreating to make his next failed shit-bait Switch-hate thread.

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Pretty sure the PS2 sold like 5 times more than the current number of sold Switches.

Downgrading 1 gen vs downgrading 2 gens.

this game really needs to be on PC

>get shit ports.
then stop being autistic and complain about the developers making shit ports.
And stop defending ps4.

>you actually prefer Odyssey to Mario Maker 2
Found the problem. You're just retarded.

KEK kill yourself loser. I only stopped playing FE so I could laugh at you.

I NEED TO TAKE A SHITCH

I'll extend an olive branch and say maybe you should look through the library a bit more.
Valkyria Chronicles 4 got an excellent port for example, they aren't always bad.
Fire Emblem is also pretty fun and that just got leaked.

Either way, trying to deceive people into thinking Switch was that much worse with this thread was pretty retarded.

you are a idiot for not knowing by now that nintendo console are best bought at their end of their cycle.

You act like that'

yeah and the ps2 released in 2000 and stopped production in 2012

OP absolutely slain.

Detachable joycons enable the best portable mode, tabletop mode. Detachable joycons enable local portable multiplayer. TV connectability enables local multiplayer when at home. To top it off the lite has worse battery life than the new standard Switch, in addition to a smaller screen.

People will do ridiculous things for money
youtube.com/watch?v=oWOEBio6cA0

>the PS2 sold like 5 times more than the current number of sold Switches.

Whats your point? Have you now fallen into your desperate loop of "m-m-my company is better than YOUR company!"

Fucking pathetic.

Is it generally better or worse in handheld mode?

>consoletards actually play this garbage

OP just stop. Havent you embarrassed yourself enough?

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HAHAHAHA WHAT

He said something that was blatantly wrong and I brought forward an example that demonstrated this. Why are you so touchy when people criticize Nintendo?

It's GOTY and I hate myself for initially not caring about because I thought it was some stupid minecraft clone. (IF) it gets ported to PC with better optimization, you'll be eatin that crow, user. And you'll be lovin it.

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Highly variable. If the game is CPU bound it runs better. If GPU bound a bit worse. Generally better.

It had already sold 110 million units by 2006 when the PS3 came out. Went on to sell another 50 million units by 2013.

He said the Switch is ONE of the most successful consoles ever. Which it fucking is.

yeah and the switch is at 3years now. how about you wait until it's at 6 years since release or fucking 12 like the ps2 before shitposting about numbers

>6 years old, the best selling console of all time sold 110 million units
>not even 2 and half years old, and the switch is already at roughly 40 million units
Sounds like it's on track lmao

Switch is at what, 2 and a half years with 35 million sold?
And there's a $200 revision coming out this holiday with pokemon, that number is going explode dude

Why are you so angry?

Switch has sold 34 million units in 3 years. Assuming it sells at a similar rate in the next 3 years, that adds up to 68 million units. In the same time the PS2 had sold 110 million units.

There's no comparison.

>He says a statement of fact is angry
>But SEETHS so much he literally has to invent a new release date for the switch to protect his feelings
LOL, how pathetic are you?

that's the place where you buy pictures of you in the rollwecoaster. It is not allowed to take pictures of the screen, and that fat boy is going to beat the fuck up of the guy recording.

pokemon alone will drive sales no matter how good or bad the game is

>>But SEETHS so much he literally has to invent a new release date for the switch to protect his feelings
where did I do this

>Switch has sold 34 million units in 3 years.
Correction because you cant count: it sold 34 million units in exactly 2 years. It isnt 3 years until March 2020. And those 2019 holiday switch sales? LMAO ITS OVER

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>Switch has sold 34 million units in 3 years.

user, we're only four months after March 2019. So it's only 28 months since the switch launched.

Detachable joycons make portable play fucking horrible.
Smaller screen is a good thing since the console is smaller and not the size of a behemoth like the older model.
Battery life on the Lite is better than the OG Switch that I have so it's an upgrade.

The switch isn't even close to being out for 3 years.
Which kind of undermines your entire point, but I'M sure you did that on purpose.

God I hate you. Look at you defending your company, defending your terrible purchase.

This is sad fucking desperation. What a loser. You lost your thread. You got humiliated and now - true to form - you start arguing about something unrelated.

I'm sorry the Switch didn't fail like you wanted it to. I'm sorry that its selling so well and it has such a great library of games. I'm sorry you cannot cope and seething with jealousy. Over video games. Cringe.

>PS4 pro dropping below 18
What the fuck? Not even a Snoyfag, but this is and the switch's poor performance are probably Square's fault.

Lmao admit you were wrong and apologize to these fine young gentlemen

>This kind of COPE about being called out fol lying
LOL, snoyfags really are cucks.
Denial of reality isn't a good look, fag.

not him but the battery life is only estimated to be about an hour longer, and it's all from the dye-shrink.
The next switch model (i.e number 3 the unannounced one) will have the same shrink with a bigger battery and thus the longest battery life.

Also the joycons thing is a pain.
The reason they feel flimsy is because the latches are plastic.
They designed them this way so if a kid drops it the joycons break instead of the switch.
If you want a sturdier feel you can buy metal latches for about $1 and install them to your joycons.

PS2 had a great adoption rate early because it was a cheap alternative to a DVD player that could also play games, it was pretty genius
Switch is going to be a late bloomer like the 3DS when the price drops and the kids can get their hands on Pokemon, regardless of quality like said

>I'm sorry the Switch didn't fail like you wanted it to.
Again I bought a Switch launch day and liked it a lot, for a while. Until no good games were released after Mario Odyssey. THANK GOD for Sega porting Virtua Racing to Switch giving me at least SOME reason to use it.

you should read

I'm going to sell my switch the SECOND Yuzu becomes a viable option for playing switch games like CEMU is for Wii U.

>not even native 4k
>some bootleg upscaled 4k
sonyfags btfo

Read again, dont ignore it this time, and apologize for being wrong.

>some bootleg upscaled 4k
it's not even.
It's literally 1080p, no trickery faux-1440p or anything.
Just 1080p.

OP BTFO

>OP gets absolutely cucked by the first post
>then tries to move the goalposts and then gets cucked again
Imagine being a snoyfag, the most pathetic kind of "human" in existence.

Cool story.

I already sold my PS4 so I can afford to buy all the Switch games coming out in the next few weeks.

>console is smaller and not the size of a behemoth like the older model.
You can detach the joycons on the normal Switch, making it effectively smaller than the lite, then shove the joycons up your ass or whatever. The lite is less portable.

Imagine buying games like a retarded sheep.

Baited with the 3 years. Hook line and sinker. He can't even do basic research before shit posting lmao.

>n-no you'll actually be playing it though
Lmao fuck off retard. What shitty non-arguement.

20 is still completely unacceptable

>Use Ra's Mirror on Furrowfield dog
>She's a princess apparently
>Still woofs
>Still named Woofles
What kind of "you just know" did I run into

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i wait for the real specs and benchmarks faggot, i don't want to buy another console and get 30 FPS in 2020, especially Scarlet and PS5 will cost at least 500$

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user, why the hostility? I just want you to enjoy Dragon Quest Builders 2!

even better

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Slap Pokemon on it and watch people defend it like there's no tomorrow

I refuse to buy PS5/Scarlett.
They're just going to release a PS5pro and ScarlettX in a few years.

The detachable joycons make the portable play feel like shit because they make the whole system feel flimsy.
Lite is the perfect because no flimsy joycons and it's smaller.

Literally nobody defends pokemon on this board besides waifu shitposters. Even /vp/ hates new pokemon games.

Did OP finally bail?

>Switch owners care about value and overall quality
>540p
>lower than low textures
>reduced everything to lower than low
>physics: off
>npc amount: low
>fps: averages at 23
wow so much value and quality in my switch ports.
Let's not act like switch babies won't run out and desperately buy every game that's been ported to that shitshow of a console lmao

There's no point talking to you people, I just can't make you understand.

or kill himself for failing to defend his snoy gods.

>hitting peak COPE after failing to defend the ps4 pro for hitting 1080p@17fps
LOL, you really are a cuck.

For that money, I could've bought a crummy pail of water!

So you're literally mad that people are having fun on a console you don't personally like. Yikes, my guy.

Can you for the third time, at least apologize for lying to us. We havent lied to you once, OP. We're trying to understand! But you keep giving us false information and get mad at us when we call you out. I'm so disappointed.

>real specs and benchmarks
Thank fuck I switched to PC after the 360. No need to listen to roundabout marketing tactics like using teraflops for performance and pushing 4K 30fps when even the upgraded version of the console can barely hit 1080p 60fps in some games.

>Capcom attempts to jew Switch owners by ripping DMC1 out of a collection and charging 19.99 for it
>It doesn't even enter the top 20 on the eShop
Stop talking about what you think is quality and start thinking about other preceptions of it

Don't forget how the PS4 Pro doesn't even work as a 4k Blu-ray player, while Xbox One X does.

DELETE THIIIIIIIIS!
I BEG YOU, I NEED MY CONSOLEWARS!

>he cuts the webm exactly at the point where the player goes to a less demanding area, trying to hide the 18 fps average it is in
nigga either way everyone can watch the digitalfoundry video and the video makes it VERY clear the game's running sub 20 average on ps4 pro in HIGHLY demanding user made maps

Cool story.

I already sold my PS4 so I can afford to buy all the Switch games coming out in the next few weeks.

Call me again when this is the system's fault and not the developer's.

How is it not the system's fault when an identical port performs poorly on the hardware? Are you suggesting the Switch isn't orders of magnitude less powerful than the competition

Based Sonyfag proving once and for all that console loyalty is like a peasant sticking up for his abusive king.

So the PS4 pro is complete garbage, a mistake that every owner should kill themselves over?

I fucking hate this bitch so very much. I'm considering switching my console from English to my native language in hope she doesn't meme around in that language too

I don't even own a fucking playstation you insane retard.

Ps4 wins again :)

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Then why are you COPING so hard to defend the ps4?

The fucking state of OP! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH! Put me in the screencap

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Sounds like you don't even own anything user. Enjoy your f2p gacha games.

Bros.... how will Nintendo every recover??

The way this niggers hand is forced in there, parading itself for its niggertry gets me every time

How joyless is your life that you don't like Brittney?

This. IRL shed be annoying. But I think its really cute that the localization team made her a walking meme. She makes the game even more cozy and lighthearted than it already is.

I have a powerful PC and basically every retro console.

>OP behaves like a retard
>army of Nintendo retards barge in and point this out, then repeatedly spew reaction images and "OP BTFO WHY DO YOU EVEN TRY?" shit
>OP posts another retarded, flawed comparison
>some Nintendo anons refute this and laugh, then a million hype-man chimpanzees push thread halfway to bump limit with more "stop trying lmao!" posts
>rinse and repeat for the next 1500 threads
Do you subhumans ever get tired of repetition? Jesus Christ, I hate everyone here.

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>not a new IP
nice try OP

No he's saying that the onus is on Square Enix optimising the game so the framerate is stable on both Switch and PS4 because right now there are clearly problems on both
Switch being less powerful than the competition is a given since it's a tablet sized handheld rather than a full blown console

just ban all snoyfags and this will stop happening.

>I have a powerful PC yet I defend 18fps on ps4
How much bullshit could you possibly spit out in one thread?

Why are you lying? That was my first post in this thread.

OH NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO OP NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!

no it wasn't.

TO be honest with you user, to be honest, I was just using the PS4 as a way to talk shit about the Switch. I realize now I just never should have bought a Switch since the games are clearly not made for me.

The same way there is a nintendo bonus for reviews, there is a sony penalty in framerate counters.
So 17 sony fps are actually 120fps on shitch.
FOR THE PLAYERS!

Holy shit, I'm reliving my days of first visitting stormwind during a server event. Literally can't do fucking anything but walk in a straight line and hope I stop before I fall into the water

>I was just using the PS4 as a way to talk shit about the Switch
>This is the peak COPE you can expect of a snoyfag
LOL, that might be the most pathetic excuse a snoyfag ever tried.
Truly subhuman.

Op? Hello?

>tfw the last soldier shows up when the battle is already over

Goodness what the fuck is this thread

Imagine living life this mad on an image board

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING RETARD

It's the strongest portable we ever had. Not since the Game Boy, which was close to NES in terms of power, did we have a portable system so close to home consoles. Vita was barely better than a PS2 at the end of PS3's life, PSP was barely better than PSX, DS the same, 3DS was PS2 tier, GBA was SNES tier, Switch is the first system you can call "stronger than last gen" and it does run most multiplats pretty well - if you spent less time shitposting on Yea Forums and actually did at some point have a Switch in your hands and play some Doom or whatever the current meme is for low resolution and fps, you'd see it works pretty great for a system you can play anywhere you like.

Why would you want to play compromised ports of games instead of just playing them on the platforms where they shine best?

How much time out of the house do you have to play portable games anyways?

And why would you want to play in-depth games on a shitty tablet instead of just pick up and play arcade games?

Jesus Christ. Please tell me this is bait.

Is this the worst SquareEnix game ever?

>Why would you want to play compromised ports of games instead of just playing them on the platforms where they shine best?
So you're saying anybody who owns a ps4 is a cuck?

maybe because switch games are free while piracy hasn't been possible on PS4 since 5.05

It's a meme.

>So you're saying anybody who owns a ps4 is a cuck?
Nice deflection.

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>costs as much as a real console
>can't even reach 33% of the power of one

They can't keep getting away with it.

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Please stop bumping this thread. The notifications are really fucking pissing me off. Just let it die

LOL, why can't you just admit it?
You literally said it, but somehow nobody is allowed to criticise anything sony does according to you.
How bizuarre, almost like you are a butthurt snoyfag.

It doesn't? But why?!

The game is kino but the optimization is shit. DQB itself is amazing, dont take that away from it

>this is peak COPE
LOL, literally a cuck.

I have Builders 1, but I still haven't played it. Well, except for the demo which runs fine, so I assume the full game runs fine as well.
But DQB2... now that is something else.

Will probably end up like the 3DS with multiplats. Meaning a lot of good exclusives and great games on it, except with a larger pool of indies.

Based. Honestly, once again, like always and everytime, sony wins. Fucking nintenbabbies run at half the fps

that doesn't even make sense, user. Did mommy not teach you that you can't just say random words you heard? They have to make sense inside the context of a proper reply if you want to try that.

Run along now. Don't forget to eat your vegetables!

LMAO

no retard he's literally pointing out what's wrong with your argument
any ps4 game is compromised compared to playing it on pc

>LOL, snoyfags pretending to be adults
Move on kid, your beloved shitposting thread has been completely BTFOed.
Try harder next time.

So basically, we are trying to figure out which shit smells less?

>Cyberpunk 2077
>Death Stranding
>Star Wars Jedi Fallen
>Watch Dogs 3
>Doom Eternal
>Monster Hunter Iceborne
>Final Fantasy VII

All coming to PS4 and not Shitch

No, because it's literally okay if snoy does it.

>Move on kid, your beloved shitposting thread has been completely BTFOed.
>Try harder next time.

hahaha

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>cuck game
>shovelware
>EA shit
>ubishit
>is coming to switch
>dlc
>port
Literally the most pathetic list ever made.
If you loom forward to any of this, you're probably a tranny.

This is related to DQ Builder 2... how exactly?

Because I like to have my games with me, I travel a lot on business trips and, contrary to what Yea Forums tells you, it is pretty great to play some games whenever I have the time to kill, since being fucking 32 doesn't give you a lot of free time, most I do at home is Tetris 99 or Smash with beer and friends. I already had this problem with PS3, bought Ni No Kuni on release for 60$ and played maybe 6 hours, bought Persona 5 and played 3 hours, I don't have the time, and yet I was able to get through BOTW with 120 hours on the clock in two months, with half of this time thanks to being stuck at a hotel for a week.

Also, Tetris 99 or Smash is great next to my PC, when I need to let some steam off between commissions.

Deeper games work well, you do have the time to get invested, if a game does require me to really find the time and atmosphere for it, I'll either play one or two of these a year, or just miss out on it.

cope

>he drops his autism folder after being raped by facts
LOL, do it more!

Daily reminder Capcom is too lazy to put new games on the Switch

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dilate

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>SONYFAGS WILL DEFEND THIS

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>game looks like shit
>runs like it too
how can you fuck up so badly

The game is beautiful though? Even on switch. Have you played it?

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>have OG Playastation and this game
>it runs better than in webm
>not prefect, but better than in webm
STILL ENJOYING THE GAME BUT LMAO @ PRO USERS

top kek

It is the same problem. They're both sub 30fps.
Stop trying to deflect.

Goddamn

what's the source on the bottom pic my fren?

Will OP ever recover from this? He won't.

have yall maybe ignored that the game could just be optimized fucking poorly and that thisd be fixed in a patch or two?

Legendary thread bros. Keep it up.

Thats not fair, that game looks awful, thats why I bough it on PC

The reflections on the left look fucking awful.

>The absolute state of Snoy faggots and Nintendo faggots

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You don't want a pc port done by square.

That shit is clearly running in 4K, all of DF's tests are in 4K for some dumb reason when there's no reason to use 4K mode ever on a Pro. It's just a straight downgrade in everything but visuals.

That clearly looks like shit.
It can't do 4k on 4k, nor can it do 30fps.
I don't know why you'd even try 4k on a game like this.
What's the point.
First you buy a needless "pro" model that doesn't give you any actual benefits, and now you're defending shitty FPS because you need to defend your purchase of a shitty upgrade?
OGChads4lyf.
Professional Virgins stay in your shed.

>that doesn't give you any actual benefits
Framrate increases, supersampling and usually better effects in general at 1080p while holding a stabler framerate than a base console is worth it. 4K is a meme but the 1080p mode is always worth it if you have to choose between a base and a Pro. Some games even run at 900p compared to the Pro's 1080p, Nioh goes as low as 720p on a base but it stays at 1080p on a Pro. The problem is that every single person buys into the 4K meme and so every performance test shows it off and then shows the base PS4's 1080p mode instead of the Pro's.

painfully stupid post

Correction - the GBA was much more powerful than an SNES, but was still nowhere near as powerful as the previous gen's N64 or even PSX/Saturn.
The GBA was 32-bit and could handle 3d environments

The number of bits in a console's CPU is not a good measure of its performance. The GBA (and in fact even the DS) spent much of its time in 16 bit mode due to memory bandwidth concerns any way.

bit-war shit was always a meme.
saturn was 32bit and was trash at 3D.
jaguar was "64bit" in a way and was even worse.
There's a reason why no one talks about bits anymore, same with the mhz wars on PC.

Delete this!

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WTF happened? The first one runs pretty well on the Switch. I could get it on PC, but it's the kind of game I would rather kick back on the couch and play on my TV.

It was made during the generation transition era since it was released on ps4/ps3/vita, so they actually put effort on scaling things since the hardware varied wildly.
They just said FUCK IT in 2.

Knack pushed the PS4s limits with its gimmicky particle effects and it was a fucking launch title

>No menacing cat ready to pounce in the foreground

Shame. But apparently it's mainly just an issue with user levels, which don't really interest me. Also there's no PC version announced, so it looks like I might just have to deal with it. Will definitely wait for a sale though.

>16 is double of 12
Seething onions nigger

I've not got the game but when I played the Japanese demo last year it played just fine and then when I played the English version of the demo I'd get lag whenever I picked up a block, like they would continue to be in the map when it was in my hand and then a second later it'd vanish, both versions were on the switch and I never played the PS4 demo. Is the game going to be extremely bad from performance issues on Switch? I'd prefer getting it on that since I bought the first game on Switch and not PS4

>Imagine buying games

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Unless a patch came out very recently, during the campaign there several instances of bad framedrops on the seaside area and in the desert.
I pirated it on the switch so i'm not too peeved

How cant the switch handle a few pixel shells and pixel background? Wtf is the thing made out of

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>better graphics
>higher resolution
>higher fps
what exactly is that supposed to prove

Doom Eternal is coming to the Switch
FF VII is already on the Switch, the non censored full game version,

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>>higher resolution
it's literally not, both the Switch (docked) and PS4 pro run 1080p.

>Can't compete with PC so has to bully the more practical console.
Just sad.

It´s still trash and shows it´s SE's fault.
P.D: Fuck Nu-nintendo aswell

Pro is 4k

Some day all the people who watch reality tv shows to feel better about themselves will discover this place and will stay for the same reason.

It’s probably the only thing preventing them from becoming an hero, just let em enjoy it

not for DQB2, it only upscales SOME games to 4k, but not native nor any 4k Bluray support.

not in this game.
Are you telling me snoyfags can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080p?
The grapics in this game are literally the same between ps4 pro and switch.

Weong you fucking dolt. All PS4 games played on Pro are 4K native

>Actually believing bullshit marketing
How are you this delusional?

It is bait, it's a fake FPS overlay. Go watch any comparison video between the two with FPS overlays and you'll see the PS4 version runs at 60 pretty much everywhere while Switch averages 24 or so, which is still more than playable. OP is just an absolute extreme example and possibly edited as well.

No, PS4 pro is infamous for only upscaling, if you want a true 4k experience, either buy an Xbox One X, or a good PC rig.

you're a fucking idiot, the video has already been posted.
youtube.com/watch?v=p8aF1DyLCfA
>PS4 pro runs at 1080p like switch
>they use the same assets and post-processing
>PS4 pro has higher distance rendering and shadows
>still runs at low framerates in user levels just like switch
the only place it gets 60 is in the empty tutorial area.

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based retard

youtube.com/watch?v=p8aF1DyLCfA

Why the fuck isn't Switch version 720p so it can have a more manageable framerate?

I just watched the Digital Foundry video this was pulled from. It's not a fake, and it's not cherry-picked either. Pro was consistently sub-20 in user maps. Not taking sides because I'm an idort and they're both terrible, but to say it's faked is delusional.

the ps4pro literally can't render in 4K, it's always upscaled from a bastard in-between res

>this shit runs worse than fucking bloodborne
Japanese coding forlded 10000 times strike again

>who cares about the massive flaws, you like FRANCHISE right? Be a good nerd and SUPPORT FRANCHISE, it's FUN(c) and all your favorite streamers loved it!

>MUH DIGITAWL FOUNDRAY

Eat shit. I play this game in a fucking heatwave on my PS4 Pro and it runs constantly at 60fps+ and that's with the online components too.

holy shit this retard actually bought this game AHAHAHA

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using a fucking shader for the clips....you really see this shit is nodevs using a premade "game engine"

Hopefully this is the same hyperautist that kept spamming MHW/Iceborne threads, which means he'll no longer shit things up there.

that shit is "programmed" in a bloated game engine professionals only use for prototypes.
But the indie scene is getting free passes for more and more hit since people buy based on social media fame, not quality product. Your favorite streamer will finish the game for you anyway.

>this kills the underage console warring faggot
Speaking of DQB, I assume the one in OP is in handheld mode? Does anyone here own the switch version? How's the average fps on handheld mode and docked mode?

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lol why are you so mad? I'll take their documented psuedo-scientific analysis over your butt-blasted anecdote any day.

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CONSOLE TODDLERS BTFO

>stop using RELIABLE SOURCE! or I'll get angry and post VG CHARTZ ok?

the fps is worse in docked mode because it's 1080p (like the PS4 pro).
You're best playing handheld or forcing hanheld with hacks.

>on my PC
>no fucking gameplay
>on my PC
>on my PC also it's Ubishit
>on my PC and on Switch
>on my PC
>the only interesting exclusive, except it's not going to be actually finished for years.

You're not convincing me to buy a PS4 there, Jamal.

>yeah, soon guys, I swear, who needs more than one game every 2 years anyway... the ps5 will totally BTFO them, only for 900 dollars, half the price of my phone!

Used to play WoW like this back in 2004-2005. All I had was a shitty hand'me'down PC that my uncle got from work.
I still remember the fucking specs aswell
>Pentium 4 @2ghz
>Intel GMA 900
>512mb of ram
>Slow ass 20Gb HDD

Used to play Warcraft 3 and 1.6/CSS aswell with that fucking thing and the framerate was not that much better.

>its fake!

lmao somebody censor it!

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Guess I'll get the Switch version and play it on comfy handheld mode then. I just saw the digital foundry video and ps4 pro struggles to get stable frames too. I hope they'll have a performance patch somehow.

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>PS5 is almost out and the PS4 will be forever known as the bloodborne machine
>the Shitch is several years into its life and still no Metroid in sight, and pokemon is going to be complete shit thanks to gamefreak being in charge
>xbox is xbox
Being a console pleb must really suck

How is this game so demanding that neither console can run it above 20fps? Is that why Minecraft has to look like shit? So it doesn't drop like this game? How did SE alowed a game this badly optimisized?

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Kek I get better frames playing fucking LoL on a fucking laptop

Simple, it's made by Omega force.

you guys are just a hilarious mental image. Especially seeng you defend Mommytendo haha.

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are you familiar with the Infinite monkey theorem?
they tried it with videogames and shit programmers and ended up with this game

The team's priorities are fucked. They obviously favored graphics over performance. There seems to be ridiculous draw distances, minimal LOD, and all manner of post-processing effects. The fact that, aside from distant shadows apparently, the Switch version is practically identical to the PS4 version that already has issues, shows that there wasn't a lot of focus on optimization. I've seen a couple places that this might be a UE4 game. If so, the engine has native pipelines for scaling settings, a decent built-in automatic LOD system, native dynamic resolution, etc. Either way, it just seems like they didn't care about any of that and wanted it to be as pretty as possible.

>handhelds have always been a generation or more behind than the dedicated home consoles of that time
sure, but the consoles and games would be cheaper to make up for it. with the switch, nintendo has started charing current home-console prices for performance that's worse than last gen.

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LoL runs on literal toasters

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Last gen they were playing on a 240p handheld
This gen they are playing on a console that runs games at sub 20fps in 2019

kek

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Okay so it's just the game then

...

How was the first DQ Builders? Was the performance as bad as 2?

>Was the performance as bad as 2?
no, and it was on Switch and PS4 as well.

tell me more about these infinite monkeys

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The snoy has become literally mindfucked, they are now a mass of retarded flesh laying on the ground seething and coping, but since they have no brains, they can't cope.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
enjoy

it was really weird how it was just this one specific special stage that lagged on the switch version, the rest of the special stages were fine if I remember right
I think it was fixed in a later patch anyway, the update where they bound super sonic to another button

>he can't resist posting his autism folder
LOL, obsessed.

>DQ1: developed by SE
>Runs fine
>DQ2: Developed by Omega Force
>Runs like shit

>snoyfags so SEETHING they post things that ren't true anymore
LOL, the COPE is strong in this one.

>60fps+
Keep on believing something that doesn't exist, especially with that shitty TV screen with a slower response time and limited refresh rate.

thanks user

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Hey, even if it runs sloppily on the ps4 and switch, there's one thing that we can all agree on: March 2020 would be the only time both switch and sony players ca

PS4 pro literally cannot render in 4k

have they mentioned that they're working on optimization patches for either console yet? cause thats just completely fucking stupid honestly.

perfect time to respond with a simpsons pic as well

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why?

> mfw this whole thread as a pc chad

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Did you skip a few frames, user?

I'm guessing he was going to mention FF7R on PS4 and AC on Switch? Hopefully both end up good

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I'm playing it docked currently and it's fine. Just eye-balling it I'd say it's generally around 30-50 FPS, but no less than 30 average aside from some semi-rare brief dips into the 20s. But absolutely nothing like the issues 2 appears to have. Totally playable.

PC+Switch here. Even if they did release it on PC, based on the PS4 performance and it being a Square Enix port, the PC version would likely be all fucked up as well. Embrace the idort, my man. Even if it runs like dog ass, at least we get to play it while you sit there and celebrate the fact that there's one more game you can't play on an anonymous Pakistani hula-hooping image more.

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board* I'm drinking

If you honestly expect a high consistent framerate from the Switch, you chose the wrong console.

square enix ports don't run terribly on PC. It's also not something to be proud of to have companies push unfinished products to you. Continue beta-testing my man.

I wonder who's behind this thread

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>this game really needs to be on PC
It's Just another minecraft clone. There is a gorillion of them

>square enix ports don't run terribly on PC
What dimension are you from? I don't own the game, btw. I'm waiting for a sale or a PC announcement, the latter of which seems unlikely, and again, would likely be just as fucked up.

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simply put, it's significantly easier to render stuff that never changes
and it's easier to test collisions against a world that never changes
so, in a Minecraft game where EVERYTHING needs to be instantly removable and instantly placeable, it's going to run kind of slowly unless you find some major shortcuts

holy shit you switch faggots are repulsive. its just a toy not your way of life

>celebrating a single mediocre game vs hundreds of PC exclusives that are actually worth playing
>we
This is some super 4d chess level of coping

>he says in a thread made to celebrate snoy supremacy over all
LOL, get a fucking grip.
You got BTFOed, get over it.

based
angry as fuck

who the fuck do you think i even am? im just passing by and watching two tribes of monkeys fling shit at each other

Hey is this the Dragon Quest Builders 2 discussion thr- oh. oh no.

Only thing I see is people COPING hard once people started shitting on sony.
Before that, these kind of posts are somehow never made.

What do drinks in fruit like that taste like? A bit curious since those don't have all the chemical shit.

The girl is hot too

>make contra hardcorps style game
>don't actually code it well so it slows down on a machine more than 100x as powerful as the game this is based on did.
This is a mistake in optimization period.

>PC+Switch
learn to read dumbass

The fuck did they do? Use rotation updates on every single snowflake or some shit?

damn dude, kys, youre hopeless

This is blatantly the fault of an inept developer. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, trolling, retarded, or a combination of the 3.

At least it has more fps and you are playing in higher resolution than switch

probably just wasteful AI or collision detection, and way too many particles
I'm guessing the Switch port was rushed and they never thought they had to worry about optimization
So they get their devkit last minute and go OH SHIT but didn't have the time to optimize without breaking anything, especially considering it takes weeks to get through certification

I'm much too lazy to check, but if they wanted their release times to be similar on each platform, that would make sense

>snoyfags so desperate now they turn back into children with their "comeback"
LOL, snoyfags really are pathetic.

>still better
How is it better when it suffered a much larger drop?

>still significantly sub 20
>same resolution and graphics as switch
OHNONONONONO, how could this happen to the ps4 pro snoychads?

there's less than 200 sprites an runs at 40 fps.
They are probably using unreal for a pixelshit game

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I was playing Fire Emblem last night and god damn the aliasing pisses me off

>square enix ports don't run terribly on PC.
Oh boy.
Not only they port Android games and leave the exact same UI, they also fuck up basic things. Chrono Trigger port had, what, 6 patches? And they still didn't fix the game. Nier Automata works well with unofficial fan-made patch, because SE wasn't able to make one themselves. And since all SE are ported directly from consoles to PC, do you have any idea how fucking bad would DQB2 run on it? Might as well be worse than a Switch version. No joke.

That nigga is making more money than he should to just stand there and print pictures

So the framerate on both ps4 and switch are ass, can we at least emulate it or something ?

The Switch is going to be a DS-tier console. It will reach 150 million, especially with the Switch lite.

>ignoring the fact that this is for custom shit only
>base game runs perfectly fine
While they should absolutely fix performance in custom garbage its still not remotely as bad you doom fags like to pretend

>it's OK when custom game, which you obviously pay, does not work

Are you actually dense or are you assuming that image is saying the game always runs at 18fps on a Pro?

You say that but there's never going to be a game that won't lag in a free/creative mode unless they put a cap on the items people use and the amount of it.

this is epic bros !

>Are you actually dense
He's a sonyfag trying to defend the original ps4 by shitting on the pro. Of course he is.

>Even on PC if you go on minecraft servers with insane buildings a pc will struggle.
lol no it won't

Yes it will.

The game doesn't support the Pro at all, so there is no 4k mode.
That's 1080p, with drops into the fucking teens.
Oof

>Nioh goes as low as 720p on a base but it stays at 1080p on a Pro.
Nioh actually drops below 1080p on the Pro in Action Mode.

Switchcels could just sage and hide the thread but they have the cope and seethe at some foreign vidya company because they won't allow them to play their games
Reminder all console war threads would end if you retards bought both

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Holy fuck that looks like DOG SHIT without the water effects, may as well be grey box.

>people still mistake the hardware for terrible optimization

I guess it's easier to say a console is shit for those (you)s than realize how incompetent modern day devs are.

>makes a thread bashing Switchm cos the game runs like shit
>turns out, it runs like shit on PS4 Pro, too
''W-w-why aren't you agreeing with me, Yea Forums? S-Switch is bad, can't you see it?''

>Reminder all console war threads would end if you retards bought both
>The retard says while shilling his snoystation and COPING at the drought on ps4
LOL, how pathetic can you get?
This thread is about laughing at retarded snoyfags and them being BTFOed, geet with the times.

Holy fuck look at these guys

>snoyfags still pretending after being raped by this thread
Stop COPING for a second and face the facts.

Why won't Nintendo scale back to 720p with the Switch and be done with it?

>nintendo developed this game by square enix

>b.b.but OTHER game!

>all these people defending the underpowered baby tablet

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>This was literally fixed in 2017.
Sonygros don't know how to time. Probably why they're stuck in the 90s.

Can't they ask for a 720p patch?

I feel like switch ports have been getting lazier. Lethal League Blaze came out just recently and despite having some really simplistic graphics, it also has a really inconsistent framerate. There was a period of time around Overcooked 2 and Hallow Knight where people were getting how to Port games better for the hardware and now it feels like we've slipped right back into "Just release it on the system with no regards for anything"

>snoyfags still posting after being completely destroyed and humiliated
LOL.

AND IT'S STILL OUTSELLING ALL OTHER CONSOLES
HAHAHAHA

Overclocking does WONDERS for the Switch.

This is Hellblade at stock clocks handheld. Besides looking like a potato it runs/stutters terribly.

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This is handheld with GPU to docked speed, CPU slightly above stock, and memory to docked clock. Buttery smooth.

The new revision Switch would actually be much better at overclocking (being on a newer process) if a hack emerges.

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LOL I've never seen OP get REKT this hard before. Imagine being that loser right now.

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the switch is underpowered trash. News at 6.

>he is still trying after being BTFO'd

AHAHAHA

Everyday is a nightmare for you lmao

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Priceless. Top kek. OP is a faggot.

>consoles.

Somebody needs to take responsibility and pay for my eye operation after getting my eyes raped by that fps.

Let's see what happens when Sony drops the PS5 this winter

the PS4 pro is like 10x more powerful than the Switch, and it is a home console you fucking idiot

LOL no it's not, if your game ever dips below 20 it literally unplayable. And that's already being generous.

You mean the winter of 2020 right?

>Launching a whole new platform in at most 5 months without publicly announcing it or providing any non-leak information
Playstation or not, you still have to generate hype. Even an E3 announcement would have been late in the game to release this winter.

Imagine being such a non-gamer that this is what you care so much about.
Now the slowdown in War of the Lions, that was some inexcusable shit. Builders 2 is guilty of nothing anything else of its kind isn't guilty of.

Oh fuck off. You don't have to be a graphics whore to acknowledge that 8 FPS in a 2019 game is utterly unacceptable. Might as well make the fucking thing in PowerPoint. Sub-20 is barely defendable, but sub-10 is literally unplayable. Dips are one thing, but this shit is consistent.

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What sold me on nintendo was how against trannies and faggots they are