No seriously, fucking kill Paarthurnax...

He also helped me kill Alduin a lot more than you did and when he was given the chance many times to slay me, he didn't. If you want him dead so bad, you do it.

If Delphine looked like that in Vanilla then I mightve.

>arguments: zero
fuck dragons and FUCK the gaybeards.

Paarthurnax is a more useful ally than any of the blades can ever be or ever were. He is literally a fucking dragon who is weaker than me.
Fuck Deliphine and fuck Esbern. They are useless and they did nothing useful aside from things Paarthurnax could do without their constant bitching and shit.

>playing todd's game
no thanks

Paarthumax :
1. Taught me nice Dragonshouts
2. Helped me kill Alduin
3. Able to hold down his thirst of blood

You? You offer nothing. Hell, you are even helpless against Thalmor invasion.

This legitimately

Unironically the Blades were shit. Can't stop Crimson Dawn from murdering the Septim bloodline, can't even stop the Knife Ear Thalmor from wrecking the Empire. Could they fucking do anything right?

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This has always been fucking stupid. I mean, it's really damn convenient they ask you to do it only after Alduin is gone. Since obviously, everyone would be screwed otherwise.

He has to face justice. You cannot argue that he "hurr he good now though". The right thing to do is pay for your crimes even if you regret them and have moved past them. If you murder one person and later think it was the wrong thing to do, they don't let you out of prison. Even if everyone believes you truly regret killing, no one thinks you should be let out because it's unfair to the victim to not have justice. If you accidentally kill someone even, you're still sent to prison. It's about being fair and just. Paarthurnax is a bro, but he regrettably needs to pay for his crimes in one way or another. If he was truly good, he would understand this and would willingly allow himself to be executed or would negotiate on some other (fair) punishment.
Furthermore, since Paarthurnax is not wise enough to understand this, he may not be wise enough to permanently abstain from the dragons' natural urge to dominate.
Fact: He does not deserve death, but delivering justice is the right thing to do.
Delphine's a cunt though

isn't this character supposed to be in her 50's

The only one blade who did something right was the Agent.

How about let Delphine goes and kills him? That would be pretty fair, and if she fails, it means that his regret is strong enough for him to deserve a second chance.

Based

>No, seriously, fucking kill Paarthurnax. He was Alduin’s chief lieutenant and is responsible for countless atrocities against mankind. The only dragon stronger than him is now gone, so now all he has to do is bide his time until your death so that there will be literally nothing stopping him from plunging skyrim into chaos. Only a cocksucking Imperial would rationalize sparing him.
Ftfy

And cutting off relationship with Greybeards? Fuck that

cringe and bluepilled

You mean the Mythic Dawn?

Whp was the Agent? The Nerevar?

Justice is meant to be impartial, not serve as a tool to sate bloodlust and give pleasure to the aggrieved. Killing him is ultimately shortsighted and wasteful since if he were truly willing, he could potentially continue to do good for the rest of his immortal life.

Were they the Mythic Dawn? Could have sworn it was Crimson like the faggy robes they wore.

>Use sexual appeal mods to convince me
Bitch you just lost your Dragonborn.
While Todd had the dick you sucked just to ensure Paarthunax's demise as a key component towards a set of blades quests that aren't worth it.
Don't be Bladespilled. Take the Dragonpill.

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>Severed under orders of his most blessed and powerful brother, the son of a literal god
>realized said godling was wrong and actively worked against him and his own designed nature to the very end
Up next, user demands imprisoning all the soldiers of the opponent's army after their surrender, including those that defected to your side. Because that's the _right_ thing.

Why would a devoted member of the most staunchly loyal imperial organization of all time use the word 'imperial' with a disparaging tone?

Naaaah, the MC of Daggerfall.

>user demands imprisoning
You are wrong. user demands killing them.

Yeah, it was the Mythic Dawn.

I let the dragons have their way with her

>his regret is strong enough for him to deserve a second chance
No regret is powerful enough to redeem someone from past evil deeds alone. They need retribution too. I'm all for sending Delphine to her death though.

Moral goodness > muh pacifism and shouts. They're housing a mass murderer, and their leader is a mass murderer.

Paarthurnax is also the son of Akatosh. Did you not play the game? He served Alduin because he wanted to and because it was in his nature.
>imprisoning all the soldiers of the opponent's army after their surrender
That's what happens irl. Do you really think you should let the enemy army go free just because they cried and said "n-nooo stop it"

He goes down in like 3 hits though? He’s an old ass pacifist who forgot how to fight

>giving a fuck about what happens to a Wyvern in a poorly written action game

>Fact: He does not deserve death, but delivering justice is the right thing to do.
Are we reading the same dumb post or not?

Justice is not as importance as efficiency, and it would be in my best interests to keep alive my strongest ally in skyrim. Sacrificing that for something intangible and unsubstantiatal as "fairness" would be silly. Thank you for playing devil's advocate though.

>That's what happens irl.
No, user, when Germany surrendered we did not demand a census of their entire armed forces and have each them imprisoned away from their spouses and children, then turn around and throw defectors like Albert Einstein and dozen more into prison just because they had once worked for the enemy.

Please be less dumb.

>does not deserve
user still wants Paarthurnax to die, whether he deserves or not.
>retribution
Naaaah, he is more useful alive. He had already helped us to save Nirn itself, that's more lives than he ever took. Without him, Dovahkiin would've sucked dick while delphine bashed him for being useless.

Without them, I wouldn't even know Dragonshouts, which is helpful to kill Alduin. What do you offer to help killing Alduin? Nothing. Don't act high and mighty when even the likes of you are helpless against Thalmor.

>Albert Einstein
Wernher von Braun* is a better name.

Einstein had already renounced citizenship before either World War.

Paladin niggers are the worst. Fuck Law and fuck Justice.

Only I she lets do paizuri with her

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I don't give a fuck. He's based. He makes my shouts stronger.
>b-but he killed so many
Shut the fuck up I do too, people suck.

Delphine
>defeat this dragon for me
>now infiltrate the thalmor for me and possibly get captured or killed which would doom skyrim and the rest of tamriel
>now go find esbern for me
>now escort both me and esbern despite me telling you i'm supposed to be this elite warrior
>now defeat alduin
>now kill paarthurnax so we can point out dragon lairs on the map, also fuck you

Paarthurnax
>greets you like a fellow dragon
>gives you a free word shout
>points you in the direction of the elder scroll
>helps you fight alduin first time
>helps you find Odahviing
>says you've done the world a massive service by killing alduin
>honors you with like 10 dragons roaring on your way back from Sovngarde

Yeah, i'm thinking he's based

>Paarthurnax is also the son of akatosh.
Kinda, All physical dragons and the dragonborn are a shard of akatosh but Alduin is a special case. Physically he is the first and most powerful but at the same time he is also part of the Aka oversoul just like akatosh is, making him in a similar tier. You see normally alduin quite literally ends time and devours the kalpa. Him being the son is more metaphorical since him and Akatosh are dragons and he comes after Akatosh, making him a "son" of his. However this cycle alduin went full retard and decided to rule the world instead of end it, causing him to depower into a regular dragon that's just really strong.

>but muh retribution
>b-b-b-but muh justice

Yeah he activated the genocidal robot god. What a solid move

Not exactly, no. Time was fucked up, so everything happened at once, because Bethesda.

Which I think was actually a good way to make a multi-ending canon imo. But that still means he activated Numidium at least once. Honestly it’s the ending I always liked anyways

True, no matter how retarded, canonical TES ending is still the best in the series to this day.
Shit's still multiverse, so there are many more Blade Agents who couldn't get out of the first dungeon, so it is canon too, I guess.

There's more than one interpretation of justice, and they all have to do with the purpose of punishment.

a)If the fulfillment of the law and punishment of wrongdoing is entirely for the sake of maintaining the positive, affirmative, undeniable rule of the law, then Paarthumax would have to suffer a punishment objectively and scientifically measurable with his deeds.

b)If the fulfillment of the law is to uphold a principle of justice higher than that of man, and, by the means of punishment the guilt is "redeemed", then Paarthumax then should be made to do a good of equal measure to the wrong he did

c)If the fulfillment of the law is to protect the community and bring about security and confidence to society, then punishing Paarthumax serves no purpose, as he is neither dangerous nor harmful now, his self imposed exile and reflection served the same purpose the punishment would have.

Man Bethesda really screwed the pooch post morrowind. The write these bullshit railroad stories and then make the faggots hoisting shit on you are essential so you can't just stab the fucker to death. Like fucking thieves guild for instance why can't I just fucking hunt down and stab the motherfucker on my own. Why do I need to sell my eternal soul to some trans-dimensional roastess god to get gay looking pajamas before I can go and stab the fucker? It's fucking stupid that I can one shot literally everyone on legendary after putting a few points into enchanting but I basically have to be everybody's bitch boy fetch cuck. Why can't I just stab Delphine? She most certainly deserves it for being a condescending cunt and expecting me to listen to her bullshit.

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>canonical Daggerfall ending
I fucked up

>Why can't I just stab Delphine? She most certainly deserves it for being a condescending cunt and expecting me to listen to her bullshit.
Imagine if you have the choice to sell out the Blades to the Imperial/Thalmor

>thieves guild
Recently finished it with my heavy armor orc.
>cause terror in riften
>fuck up the vase
>scare people
>CLEAN JOB NEWBIE
Brynjolf is a retard. Also, I beat the shit out of mercer with my axe in five hits before the Meadery quests. Five fuckin hits, and I still have to sell my soul to a bitch who canonically doesn't give a fuck about the Skeleton Key and whatnot so that I can defeat that fucker, because he is SUPER POWERFUL.
Pagliarulo is a hack. Keep it simple indeed.

Paarthurnax acts like a bro the entire time while Delphine shits on you and throws an autistic fit until you do what she says, does she even reward you with anything when you return, i remember finding the blades armor and sword but even those weren't free to take until you killed paarthurnax, fucking blades man at this point i'm glad they're gone

Baurus was chill though and deserved a happy ending

>Choice
>bethesda
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Thanks mate.

Paarthurnax isn't even a threat he's old and weak he dies in a few sword hits

Fucking Bethesda. They give you a choice to kill Paarthunax and cut off the relationship with the Greybeards. Why can't I do the same by sell out those fuckers?

Can you? I'm replaying the game right now and would love to see that bitch get fucked. If true it's a shame it's a rigaround option instead of just letting me kill NPCs when me and or the character I'm playing would get tired of their bullshit.

You can bypass the Blades and go to Paarthurnax to finish the main quest, Blades have no more use after finding Alduin's Wall.

>Can you? I'm replaying the game right now and would love to see that bitch get fucked
Sadly no. Bethesda had the chance to add the choice in Dawnguard or Dragonborn DLC, but nooooo they're either too afraid or lazy.

>baurus deserved happy ending
Apparently, bethesda didn't think so, which is why no matter the level you (and the npcs) are, Baurus get's killed in two or three hits in the sewers, even though he has tons of health at this point.

They're integral to the main plot in every game no matter how small the role and that will continue in TES VI, not being able to kill them just shows they will rebuild no matter what.

>bethesda had a chance
Mate, Dawnguard adds the Snow Elf who knows falmer language and an Orc who can at least read falmer language. Main game has a quest where you need to steal an alphabet to translate a diary. With DLC, you can't show the diary to these two dudes, even though it is a logical fucking thing.

Based and Leonpilled

t. nigger

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I mean I just want to see Delphine get what she deserved for being a bitch. If its lore related, then just let a couple of Blade members escape and rebuild the organization in the future.

So it's laziness then. Ok.

To be fair they couldn't stop the Dawn because it was prophecy that they would succeed in murdering the Emperor. Just as it was prophacized that they would still fail despite that.

Why would he be 'biding his time' when he had centuries to do what you're saying he's waiting for

I want to suck on her udders. And when my stomach is full from her milk I want her to squat on my face until I drown from her vaginal secretions.

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tfw you managed to save him there but not during the final daedric assault on the city. he never did get my class right

Not necessarily, no. I mean, production values are aproximately where they would've been if Bethesda was lazy, true, but that's not it. They just make shit. They want to make shit. Todd talked about "passion" years ago, now we know that Bethesdad's passion is money.

They simply can't do any better at this point. Their games are dependent of that shitty engine because either mods are the only reason to play them. Their gamedesigners make bad autoleveling 4 times in a row. Their level designers make same mistakes 4 times in a row. Their worldbuilding is shallow 4 games in a row. Their writer (F3-4, TES4-5) unironically thinks that if players want to skip your writing and dialogues, it is not your fault, it is their problem, but you have to make dialogues simple and unimportant enough so that it is fine to skip everything. Bethesda is not evil, they are creatively bankrupt.

But they still raid other companies, so they are evil.

>tfw you managed to save him, but on release they forgot that he can survive so he got stuck until the first patch
It could've been worse.

Nobody cares about Skyrim's shit plot

But have you considered: As the Dragonborn, I don't give a flying fuck about justice or past crimes committed before I was alive, and my judgement on other people I meet is determined solely by their actions they take that I am witness to?

It's pretty simple, really. If you are an asshole to me I will kill you. If you are nice to me I will help you. Therefore, I will not kill Paarthurnax.

He literally just sits on the mountain surrounded by deadly ice storm/blizzard. He's basically like jailed or something. Doesn't even fly. Worse than just dying desu. The (((blades))) are just peabrain.

Can't agree. He helps Dragonborn more than blades ever did, which endangers the authority of a faction created by the emperor himself. Do you know who also endangers their authority? Thalmor.
Paarthurnax is literally Thalmor.

How about the fact that in the primal, dragon-ruled world, Paarthurnax not only had no laws or moral concepts in existence that he was breaking at that time, and that in fact a failure to do what he did would have been an actual crime?

>Letting dragons live
ISHYGDDT

>Faction
>Literally two people
>Main purpose is to protect the dragonborn bloodline
>Fails spectacularly everytime
>Lol, just go run around dude, we'll just chill here

is there a mod that gives him a better ending, like retiring and living quietly as a monk at weynon priory, near the city of Chorrol

youtube.com/watch?v=wHL7zyLsQ2k

Killing Parthunaax is a bad thing to do. He helped us, he guided us, arguably more than the Blades ever did. I'd rather be a Dragonborn that didn't kill all dragons than a Dragonborn that killed his friends.

I don't really care for dragons much, but i care even less for women who think they can order me around. I'm the fucking dragonborn (with protagonist plot armor) you exist only for my amusement. If it's so important to you, make me. or do it yourself.

Near the city of Chorrol.