Fallout 4

in hindsight, it wasn't all that bad

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Yeah it was.

if you avoided the story sure it was an alright game

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I was surprised people did not loved to death, considering some of them still give a pass for skyrim and fo3

Correct. I hated it the first time I played it because I was expecting it to be something else. Played it again a few months ago and had a blast. The key is to let go of any preconceived expectations about what you think the game should be.
Sure, it's a shitty Fallout game and barely an RPG, but it's still fun to run around and shoot shit.

Good sandbox
Shit fallout

it didn't have many RPG elements for an RPG game. just another example of developers simplifying a franchise to appeal to a wider demographic.

>after years of shit since F4, it doesn't seem that bad
ftfy

It really was. Bethesda are sitting on one of the best IPs on the market and they have no idea how to actually use it.

It was good if you like to loot, kill, roam, loot, kill. Story wise and thematically it is shit. Did not make sure of proper RPG elements.

I did enjoy playing it. More so as a survival game then an RPG.

What mods

Legitimately one of the worst storylines in modern gaming. Now THAT is an accomplishment.

Survival mode + Frost + optimally PILGRIM is survival kino

>in hindsight
you mean compared to 76? sure.

You can't defend this statement, but it isn't even good hyperbole.

YESSS IT FUCCCCKING WASSSS. AWFUL FUCKING GAME

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with mods.

also sadpanda is dying, get your shit now, you have maybe 6 hours

Yes it was. The only part that was mildly okay was killing hordes of monsters in power armor, and EDF does that 1000 times better.

No it wasn't. and you don't have an argument that ti was. If the game wasn't called "Fallout" none of you New Faggas losers would have an issue with it.

fpbp
LITERALLY Skyrim with guns

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It would've been fine without all the base-building and material scavenging. As it was, it's worse than NV and FO3.

Why is that bad exactly?

Yeah, in hindsight from my helicopter as I'm dropping my copy in the atlantic ocean

it's a perfectly serviceable game if you mod out that awful, awful parent plotline. I'm having a really good time with Horizon, Sim Settlements, and Nuclear Winter, dicking around the already half-rebuilt Commonwealth and trying to restart the CPG as Colonel Hollis' long lost daughter. very fun form of escapism with some decent simulation-y systems built in.

It normalfag to hate it now, so i do the opposite and love it to death.

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I can't remember everything that was better and worse.
I liked that they got rid of repairing armor and guns.
Leveling up and all the perks were just ridiculous though.

It's fucking gay, Todd should keep his shitty ass radiant quests and enchant- oh sorry I mean LEGENDARY weapons in Skyrimjob.

I'm not that user but I have to say it isn't even comparable to skyrim in terms of density and amounts of content. FO4 is barely half the size of Skyrim, and it's somehow more empty.

It not all that bad as a sandbox, base building, shooting game.
It's not a good Fallout game tho. It's abysmal actually.

Every Bethesda game is great. 76 is my GOTY

As a base building game it's utter shit. The fuck are you talking about. Name one redeeming quality of it.

You're right it wasn't that bad it was worse. Just re-watched the E3 trailers and you'll see what I mean.

I played through it once and got bored about 3/4 through nuka world.
It isn't a bad game. Just a very mediocre game only made slightly less mediocre by mods

I enjoy the gameplay but the quests are pretty shitty and some of the weapon designs are just awful.

>Persona 5
>HZD
As long as those 2 exist, Fallout 4 is masterpiece tier story.

no. its terrible. kill yourself.

It's pretty good. Critical acclaim, sales figures, and common opinion support this as well, even though you don't need those to determine critically if a game is good.
Yea Forums says it's bad because they're stupid, and contrarians.

It has some flaws, like the dialogue system, but the Todd man himself has addressed those concerns and said they're doing better with this in the future.

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Don't get me wrong, FO4 is garbage, but FO3 is worse after putting around 500 hours in each game. FO4 has a shit story but FO3 has an even worse linear one where you are forced to join a single faction, the BoS, even if you don't want to. Then, to make things worse, the rest of the story is locked through DLC which also turns out to be a massive disappointment. Really nothing you do actually changes the outcome of the story even in the DLC which was meant to fix the main story. The gameplay and stability are also a lot worse thanks to it being oblivion with poorly coded guns; an issue that extends to NV but without the gameplay elements that NV adds.

FO4 had many of the same problems that FO3 had but they did improve in some areas. The biggest flaw of FO4 was probably the voiced player character. It was really just a waste of time and money that could have been directed towards expanding the dialogue of NPCs and fixing the god awful story in the process. FO4 had a lot of potential but stupid choices on the developers' part ruined it.

>FO4 is the first FO I play
>it was alright I guess
>later find out that every fucking FO prior has the same recycled quests, factions, weapons etc. Like that following Prime part
I dodged a bullet.

>common opinion
Bethesdrones are barely human

shut the fuck up and let this shitstain fade away already

Everything but the story was good, i hope it becomes a platform for a fan remaster of NV and 3, the engine on those was very outdated.

I can't even think of a single good aspect of this game other than it's gunplay, which isn't even necessarily great. Its base building barely even works, and the settlement mechanics are such a complete joke, it became memed into oblivion ("Another settlement needs your help!") the writing and story is the worst from Fallout yet, it's just a rehash of FO3 but somehow even less interesting. It can't even be considered a Fallout game, since there is actually little to zero roleplaying actually going on in this "apocalyptic roleplaying game". Power Armour is literally just laying around everywhere and you pretty much have all the best items in the game before you get midway through the story, and aside from the story and a few side quests THERES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO. I spent days trying to find more quests, thinking the game must of had more content. my stinking goober sauce is more dense than this piece of crap.

If you say this game is good you're a stupid liar. It's okay if you like poop, just don't tell other people the poop tastes like cake and that they should try it.

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Its was fucking worse

at least Skyrim had SOME role playing and dialouge options

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