So Oblivion is on sale for dirt cheap and I've been wondering if it's still worth trying out or if I'm just better off...

Nah, fuck that, just install Galerion Natural Leveling. Fixes all that shit real quick.

Don't bother with mods for a first playthrough. You won't even know what you feel needs to be changed or overhauled until you've played the game without them anyway. If you go balls deep into modding it'll take you hours to get everything in order; the procedure is really fucking boring.

Oblivion is great if you enjoy well-done quests. Random town side quests and the factions are the reason to play this game.
Just ignore and main quest because it's garbage.

The vast majority of Skyrim's quests are horrible and there is zero enemy variety.

nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/3392
No more min maxing shit.

Oblivion is easily the worst Elder Scrolls game. Some zoomers started with it though, so they treat it like a sacred cow; ignore them. Skyrim isn't particularly good, but at least it isn't offensive to play.

>I can stomach Fallout 3 faces just fine, are they worse than that?
Much, much worse, actually. Even Morrowind's faces were better.
>And whats this about the level scaling that everybody keep commenting on?
In order to ensure that you are always challenged, enemies scale directly to your level. In other words, your character will proportionally never gets stronger throughout the entire couse of the game.

Enemies get stronger as you level up.
If you level up in a bad way enemies can become way too hard to beat.

Play Skyrim. It's at least unique-ish. My personal reason for never getting into Oblivion years ago, and now not giving it a chance when I've seen and played more of the ES games, is because of the generic art and environment direction. It's a LOTR rip off and I've never been fond of that aesthetic. Skyrim has creative beauty breathed, and that's the reason it was so popular and refuses to die. The heart of Skyrim is the explorstion and visuals, not so much the RPG. While Oblivion was made when Todd was in this fangirl stage of Peter Jackson's LOTR movies, and it very, very, very clearly shows.
If the role-playing and intricate mechanics are more your thing, then just skip Oblivion anyway and play Morrowind instead.
I just personally kinda see Oblivion as this black spot on this already flawed franchise but a lot of Yea Forums eats it up.
If exploring, presentation, and generally just getting lost in a fantasy world is your thing then go Skyrim. If you don't mind ES having most of what makes it specific stripped away and thus becoming Two Worlds-ified, and can put up with all the visual jank for mediocre RPG then go with Oblivion.
Either way just play Morrowind with OpenMW

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Ah so sort of like Fallout 3 and 4. I certainly hated that in 4.
I'm no stranger to modding but as said, is it really recommended to do your first playthrough without them? How easy it is to completely fuck up your game if you go in blind into the game?

Oblivion may be ass but I enjoy the classes, being able to make a class up and cast without unequipping my weapon instead of what skyrim did

I think you're better off buying SKyrim, honestly. Oblivion has just aged too much. Besides, infinitely more mods for Skyrim, more bang for your buck.

If it's dirt cheap then only buy it when you have Skyrim Special Edition as well because of Skyblivion that's getting closer and closer to completion every day.

The miss chance makes morrowind garbage, play oblivion.

If you have to choose between the two, pick Skyrim. It's casualized compared to Oblivion, but in most other ways it's better, plus it isn't outright broken.

Skyrim is garbage, removing skills and making perks the only benefit to levelups is cancerous and ruins any sense of character progression. It's the main fault in Skyrim and Fallout 4 IMO.

>OpenMW
Go shill your broken unfinished shit elsewhere faggot, also Skyrim is the most bland ass game when it comes to visuals holy shit. How the fuck is Skyrim unique in anyway? I also noticed how you left out the shivering isles, the best Bethesda expansion made, when shilling Skyrim faggot.

Don't listen to this fool.
In Morrowind you set major and minor skills.
Select one, two, (MAYBE three but probably not) weapons you'd like to/plan on using for your character build and set them as majors. Use the weapons assigned to your major skills and suddenly, from the get-go, you won't have to worry about missing.
If you're character has a high score in Spears, say 50, he'll likely never miss with a spear. But if you pick up a dagger with a score of 15, you won't be able to do shit with that dagger.
Morrowind is all about creating a character build/class and role-playing that out.
But don't min-max your build or anything because you'll quickly become OP. Too much meta knowledge about Morrowind can lead to the game being no fun because you naturally gravitate towards what's optimal or even rediculously OP. Too little meta knowledge can lead to it being frustrating when you don't understand why you can't make contact and do dmg with your shortsword. (Even tho you put all ur points into 2 handed weapons)

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Yes, but just focus on the side quests/guild quests. The main quest will put you off, especially with closing Oblivion gates which is the worst part of the game.

>goes around trying to fight with zero stamina
>wtf why am I missing all the time!

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>OpenMW
I've only messed with it a tiny bit but I'm guess I'm parroting what others on here say to use. How is it broken? It is an in-progess mod, so yeah it's unfinished.
>Shivering Isles
I never played this. I mentioned that I never really gave Oblivion much of a chance bc the visuals kept me far far away from it. Either way, no game should be played solely for an expansion, no matter how good. Especially if you have to wade thru the rest of the shitty game to experience it.
>shilling faggot
There's no such thing as shilling Skyrim. All 7+ billion people on Earth have already purchased it, user.

I just want to be able to play The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion in Handheld Mode on my Nintendo Switch console

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It's not just open fields, you also have the planes of oblivion themselves to break things up plus the shivering Isles expansion area.

>Especially if you have to wade thru the rest of the shitty game to experience it.
Good thing you don't, it is entirely possible to go straight to the shivering Isles when starting a new character.
And when oblivion is dirt fucking cheap it is worth picking up just for the shivering Isles.

Are there alternate start mods for Oblivion? Can't stand that fucking sequence. I don't give a fuck about the emporer dying within 5 minutes before I even know about this land. I just want explore and side quest

Shivering Isles has something to do with elves right? If it's so good I might see if I could stomach it better than vanilla oblivion.

Oblivion has entertaining quests but everything outside of that is askew or broken. Skyrim at least is balanced and simple to mod.

Just turn the difficulty as far left as it goes and one hit everything through the sewers. Takes ten miutes max. Don't forget to make a save before you leave the sewer so you can create characters from that save from now on

Indeed, but that's not unique to the game. I experienced everything you just said before playing the watered down version present in Oblivion. Perhaps Oblivion isn't offensive in a vacuum, but coming off of Morrowind it's just insulting.

So then you are retard that has no idea what he's talking about good to know.
OpenMW is not a fucking mod it's a complete recreation of the game using a new engine. It's not ready in the least bit other than for testing purposes. Recommending someone try to use it for their first playthrough is asinine. All you need is MCP and MGEXE with the original Morrowind and you're good to go.

there's an alternate start mod, you can pick your background and get appropriate starting items, and start from waterfront or anvil. The amulet of kings is found from some rat in the sewers which will start the main quest.

I know it's not a mod, I'm aware it's a separate engine because the one used for the base game is outdated trash. That's why I recommend it. I tested it for a few hours at most, but didn't see any issues.
You still haven't told me how it's broken. I don't want to recommend broken shit to someone but I saw no evidence of it being broken or anyone else in these threads who have said as such. So, for the third and final time: how is it broken, user?
Fair enough, but there's still merit to those alternate start mods. I like being able to reject the main story and the opening where they talk about your special role in it all. It becomes easier to rp as just another adventurer and not the adventurer to end all adventurers

nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11495/?

See, that's pretty nifty. That's for the info user

Play Morrowind Oblivion and Skyrim in order

Get Skyrim with the Ordinator mod

What the fuck you talking about? There is nothing wrong with the base game. You want me to fucking give you a changelog of how OpenMW isn't finished? Something that you have only played "a bit" of then just recommend people play over the base game? Go fuck yourself you cock breathing faggot. If you would actually lurk the Morrowind threads that pop up on Yea Forums people don't recommend it as it's buggy as fuck and not all of the base game features are implemented.

Just pretend that your character had impacted earwax during the entire sewer sequence and couldn't hear anything the Emperor or the Blades were saying he just wanted to leave

It's the place where the Prince of madness lives
Its really good fun.

Oblivion is great because it has the best quests.

>buy Skyrim SE cause its on sale
>mfw trying to play it after dumping 100+ hours into Mordhau
Oh god this is so not good.

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Why this Galerion Natural Leveling is better than the Realistic Leveling mod?

nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/13879

>came out
>pc was shit
>consoles were a bugged mess
>decide I will pick it up later
>never do

Morrowind:
>This person has a rat problem, go help them out
>Kill 3 rats in the basement, quest complete
Oblivion:
>This person has a rat problem, go help them out
>Go to the basement with the rats, kill the mountain lion in there, go ask the local hunter to track the mountain lions down, find a group of them and kill them, go back to find out another mountain lion is in the basement, kill it, watch the house at night to see the argonian neighbor place rotten meat outside as bait for the rats which inadvertently brought out the cats instead, confront her about it, can decide whether to tell the rat lady the truth or cover for the argonian, quest complete
Skyrim:
>This person has a rat problem, go help them out
>Please bring me the ratward from this dungeon filled with draugr, good job, now you're a werewolf and the guildleader, quest complete

Skyrim
>This person has a rat problem. Make it worse.
>go into brewery basement to deal with rat problem, discover wizard raising poison rats, kill him, poison the brewery alcohol, and blame it on the rats.

At least use a real quest.

>Daggerfall
>npc has a rat problem
>have to go through a 3 hour long labyrinth filled with Daedra and ancient liches
>leave with so much loot you need a cart for your horse
>200 gold reward from NPC

Oblivion has the superior quests, setting, soundtrack and Shivering Isles. It's also a mess and it may crash randomly often
Skyrim has the superior exploration, combat and modding community. Quests are godawful and the game treats you like you have autism
Both are solid choices

>Stick my sword through your stomach
>Miss

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What is the best mod for level scaling and leveling up?

Where's All the Fallen now? Anyone know?