Dark Souls is a 3D Metroidvania. Change my mind

Dark Souls is a 3D Metroidvania. Change my mind.

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You're entitled to your opinion.

Well yes, that's essentially the idea.

There is next to zero platforming and your character's moveset never changes and the world is never recontextuazlied through abilities that you gain. If Dark Souls is a Metroidvania, then so would REmake and I've never heard anyone call that one.

i can't, you're right

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Cringed at your memespeak tbqh

It’s also a roguelite.

You don't unlock skills that give you progress to new areas like a metroidvania. You do unlock new areas with items which could be perceived as metroidvania influenced but this form of gate keeping is present in all games.

if you think about it, it's also a dating sim if you count the weapons as waifus

This. The level design is kind of like a 3D metroidvania (in that it's a bunch of segments interconnected to one another, instead of discrete levels or an open world) but that's it.

You don't get new abilities that let you access areas you couldn't before, thats kind of a hallmark of metroidvanias.

You get a key item that lets you access new areas, but the power it gives you has nothing to do with the actual unlocking of the areas

The map design is very clearly inspired by metroidvania but you open up the world through exploration instead of powerups

If it was a true metroidvania your get a power from beating the taurus demon which would open up the shortcut by the undead burg bonfire, instead of just walking over and kicking down the ladder because you got far enough in the world to interact with something that used to be out of reach

I feel like platforming isn't required of rogue lites but I agree with you.
However the sentiment that it's influences by metroidvania is often cited.

> you open up the world through exploration instead of powerups
So it's basically just one giant OoT dungeon.

This guy gets it.

It is which is why people are always saying they want Castlevania Souls

Correct.

>that one girl who is hot af in the beginning but turns into an old hag by midgame

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>people are always saying they want Castlevania Souls
What
Nobody ever says that because we already got it with BB

Except the gameplay is fucking boring

Which plays nothing like a Castlevania game.

Eh, sort of.
But you don't actually get to the new areas via new movement options, which is a big aspect of the genre imo. In DS you just collect keys to unlock the doors to the previously inaccessible areas.

Why would I when you're right?

So you don't want Castlevania Souls

Like a Castlevania take on Metroid Prime? Sounds neat.

another thing in common with "metroidvania".