T-103 Tyrants seem like incredibly functional production models of vastly more practicality (They can blend into crowds or act as bodyguards due to their relatively human appearance for example) with a very highly tuned set of "programming" and intelligence for their missions.
There doesn't seem like any reason for umbrella to have gone on to make nemesis with Mr. X in 2 being so well made.
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Mr X can be completely avoided just by walking at a brisk pace. He's a bitch.
Thats just a gameplay thing
Mr. X is intended for warfare and cleanup. Nemesis is specifically meant to eliminate S.T.A.R.S., who have proven they can fuck up Mr. X already.
Mr. X is completely invulnerable so long as he has his bulletproof suit on. He also maintains his mission objective the entire time and seemingly more intelligence than nemesis in his mannerisms.
Nemesis on the other hand devolves into a raging beast early on that actively kills other Umbrella assets seeking to kill or hinder stars members (By contrast, Mr. X will avoid attacking or harming zombies that are actively attacking its targets)
Because the European and US branches of Umbrella were in a pissing contest to try and one up each other.
Nemesis was specifically engineered to kill S.T.A.R.S. Mr. X was just a generic clean up tool.
Nemesis was basically a testbed for seeing what could be accomplished with the NE-α parasite. It didn't need to be necessarily better, it was an experimental prototype .
It's also worth noting that they wholly abandoned trying to use the NE-α after Nemesis, presumably because Nemesis proved to be so underwhelming.
>Mr. X blending in
The fucking things are 8 feet tall, you would have to give them black skin and claim they are from Kenya and thats why they aren't talking to even have a hope of them passing for human
People aren't going to just suddenly stop and interrogate people because they're an exceptional (But still fully reachable) height for a human being, especially in a crowd.
They just need to avoid making a scene and everyone's going to give them a wide berth and write them off as scary, but still human.
If people know there's a monster running around, yeah they'll be on the giant dude in a trench coat's case, but that's the point of Mr. X's design-- He's intelligent enough to blend in and not just sperg out murdering everyone in sight until he sees his target (And is able to use restraint when he sees his target as well as indicated by his behavior).
This is in comparison to nemesis which is unable to think of anything but "KILL" and is about as subtle as a nuke. While Mr. X could maneuver to a relatively close proximity to his target before blowing his cover, Nemesis is going to be a screaming "Monster on the way!" whistle, meaning his target in a Non-zombie infested area is going to have PLENTY of time to get into a vehicle and get the hell away.
that's because mr.x is a cuck
I think that might have more to do with the corporation going under almost immediately after 2 due to the Government cracking down on them.
That left Wesker as the one left to continue things and he was more interested in cartoonish supervillainy plans than making actual products.
Pretty much. They actually still had 2 Nemesis...es (Nemesi?) left before going under. Wonder what happened to them.
Better question is why couldn't they make one that retained most of its human intelligence? Would literally be the perfect soldier.
They did. It tried to escape, so they had to kill it.
Tell more
Not in Umbrella Chronicles or the movies
Mr X jumped into a bowl of lava to achieve his mission. hes incapable of thinking, he just walks in a straight line towards his goal and kills along the way with his own 2 hands.
You have to assume Nemesis is the better, upgraded version of a tyrant. Capable of higher speeds, weapon use, tracking multiple targets, enough going on in his brain for ambushes/surprise attacks, the ability to poison, harder to kill (with all the mutating he is able to do). Even tho extremely limited hes also able to speak. Nemesis is the much smarter, for a much wider range of uses, more capable version of tyrant
>due to the Government cracking down on them
lmao what would the government do
It was in one of those supplementary documents that probably only exists in Japan.
Umbrella Europe made four Nemesis prototypes. One went to Raccoon. One became self-aware, tried to escape the lab, and had to be put down. The other two are...somewhere.
The ustanak in RE6 retained all of his human intelligence. its the coolest thing about that game.
try watching RE4's intro again, braniac
Froze their assets causing their stock value to plummet and forcing them into bankruptcy.
And, ya know, arrested as many of its employees as they can.
That's what Mr. X's were though. Files list it as having almost human level intelligence. It even emotes at you and gets pissed if you destroy its hat.
There's a difference between "intelligence" and "sentience". Mr. X's seem less intelligent thana
human because they have had their sense of self suppressed and only operate on a few specific orders given to them, hence they don't do much besides what they're told to do, but they're still just as intelligent as a person.
They specifically wanted the Tyrants to be non-sentient to avoid them going wild and functioning as disposable tools-- early tyrants maintained a strong sense of self, which made them uncontrollable, and almost every None 103 model umbrella made ended up going rogue at some point due to developing sentience and a desire for self preservation.
That wouldn't happen today if the media presented Umbrella as a woke company and they put a rainbow flag on their Umbrella logo every June.
That's been retconned with the remake to never happen.
Mr. X in the remake makes the original Mr. X look like a brainlet.
I am not sure how effective a weapon like Mr.X is when a single guy is able to kill dozens of them with general ease.
[Resident Evil's Sheena Island incident where Ark Thompson killed hordes of Mass Produced Mr.X types.]
>Froze their assets causing their stock value to plummet and forcing them into bankruptcy.
I still think this is the funniest and most realistic way a video game has ever dealt with bad guys.
God, you're tiresome.
Not after forcing the government to blast a major city off the face of the Earth, woke or not.
>he can't take a joke
I didn't vote Trump you can breathe easy now.
So who wins in a fight, Nemesis or Mr X?
if im gonna compare Mr X to nemesis, its way fairer to compare the original Re2 to Re3. Once they make Re3make then we can compare nu-MrX and nu-nemesis
The remakes are not the canonical events. RE1 (PS1) is canonical events of Resident Evil 1. RE2 (PS1) is canonical events of Resident Evil 2. REmake and REmake 2 are in their own separate canon.
I recall vaguely that Nemesis was made by Umbrella Europe and was kind of a prototype.
The ustanak in 6 got beaten in a fist fight.
I repeat: The Ustanak LOST IN A GODDAMNED FIST FIGHT.
The ustanak wasn't the success to the nemesis it was the equivilent of a chinese Bootleg rolex you get for 5 bucks. Literally 90% of the encounters with the ustanak end up with him getting his ass spanked and him running away like a dog with his tail between his legs. He only gets the upper hand one time and that's due to someone else planning the ambush for him.
Eh, REmake didn't really change enough to matter. One of those things where you can pick which one is the "real story".
Not really considering Umbrella is basically like a terrorist organization at that point.
Nemesis has a rocket launcher.
Jokes should ideally be funny.
Better yet why didn't they just inject a bunch of umbrella loyalist with whatever the fuck they where feeding to Simmons in Re 6
he wasn't created by the same people who made tyrants and nemesis, and I suppose keeping all his human intelligence and emotion was not super useful after all. Regardless he was cool and it was a cool idea.
nemesis by far.
Mr. X is more practical, but Nemesis is by far more dangerous, mutating and regenerating almost uncontrollably from almost any damage.
Basically Mr. X is when you need to use a scalpel to solve a problem, Nemesis is more like a nuke where you don't care if you hit your own men or make a ruckus.
Which ironically makes him terrible for his intended function of an assassin due to how unsubtle he is, he's way better designed for just general mayhem like a warhead.
he only worked at his intended goal in Raccoon city because it was so fucked up as to prevent escape by normal means.
>Combined t+G virus
>Turns some guy into a monster girl
>They retain their entire mental faculties
>No attempts to recreate this
Kek, and instead of STARS, nemesis would target any white man in the office that isn't drinking a basedbean latte
Didn't it all go down with the ship?
>a huge cruise liner full of undead, virus infested creatures left in the middle of the ocean
I'm sure thats fine.
Because Simmons was basically insane at that point and unable to function mentally.
And he got injected with the same stuff as everyone else, C Virus, just a massive dose. For some reason getting hit with a alot of it rather than a small bit makes you super mutate instead of just becoming a J'avo.
One reason I hated the C virus, it was way, WAAAY too damned much in one thing like a swiss army knife. The other viruses kept to having different functions and you needed different ones for different effects.
If I am remembering correctly, the original timeline was...
RE0-REmake-RE 2-RE 3-RE Survivor-RE CV-RE Dead Aim (Debatable)- RE 4- RE Revelation -RE 5- RE Revelation 2- RE 6
No they are subjective. Some people can't handle certain subjects being made fun of.
Nemesis was more durable, and could use actual weapons. Makes it notably more useful in an actual warfare situation.
You think that's bad, they literally blew up a whale infected with T-abyss in the middle of the ocean and for some reason the Ocean doesn't turn into a death world.
Is that shit still cannon? I don't even think he did anything special to cause that effect, he just grabbed 2 syringed at once and injected them at the same time for that effect.
>TFW no Female Giant monster girl Tyrant waifu in the series yet
They can just say there were nazis there and half the country would defend umbrella
A whale and a second, unrelated cruise ship full of undead creatures infected with a DIFFERENT virus.
>literal mutant tranny
How did Capcom get away with it?
RE1 PS1 is the canon events due to this scene explaining Weskers hatred of Chris not being in the REmake. youtu.be
If Umbrella was smart they would undermine the west not through the undead but through social media and restricting certain information. In that regard, Google is a much more effective evil company than Umbrella.
The existence of the undead isn't a major secret in the REverse, you know. Everyone is fully aware the city was overrun with zombies.
Is it that exact of a science?
I thought the virus was different for everyone, so they need to get lucky to have one turn into a muscle hulk instead of mutating into a giant dong flower or something.
Indeed, had they chosen to suppress births by feminism and gender theories and mass immigration they could've achieved total annihilation and civilizational collapse way easier than making undead
The more interesting question is would a terminator beat a tyrant?
I wish we got a multi chapter, multi character RE game like RE 6 where every character had to deal with an older virus ending at the remains of the mansion with the most destructive Tyrant ever created. Have Wesker come back, form an alliance with Chris and when everyone is about to die you get saved at the last second by a old school T Virus tyrant Wesker sends out. Would make no fucking sense canon wise but I would mark out and they could retire all characters then and "end it".
Well then they could tell those were nazi zombies.
Could a Tyrant's claw cut through that metal?
Probably couldn't beat a T-1000, though.
T-Veronica was a much better virus.
IT also would make sense with them being a pharmaceutical company. Civilization is fucked but they are the only ones left with antibiotics and viagra.
Umbrella never wanted any of that shit, they just wanted to make some money. Also, weren't it's founders some european aristocrats that supported eugenics?
in a fist fight? tyrant is way bigger and strong enough to throws cars around n shiet. Pretty much a living robot that's also larger
Didn't we kinda get that with the Outbreak series though?
Rank the viruses, Yea Forums.
Oh wow so you're that one guy who actually cares about RE lore.
Nemesis literally eats a bunch of them for breakfast in RE3.
when did they get to be the size of fuckhuge
>ending at the remains of the mansion with the most destructive Tyrant ever created
You know the actual move would be Lisa Trevor being inexplicably resurrected.
I thought Nemesis was created by a parasite?
Who would win in a fight Nemesis or 50 Lions
Whatever the European founders expected from the company ended the moment the words "Total Global Saturation" were said.
> Mr. X
> Blend into crowds
user....
>Also, weren't it's founders some european aristocrats that supported eugenics?
One of them wanted a way to become immortal.
One of them just wanted to make viruses to see if he could.
One of them genuinely wanted to help people. The other two promptly killed him.
Jews.
ITS COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION REEEE
Mr.X is invulnerable because gameplay plot armor
> and seemingly more intelligence than nemesis in his mannerisms.
Debatable and that's only in the Remake. Wait until we see what they do with Nemesis in R3Make
They took a parasite and stuck it in a Tyrant. Boom, Nemesis.
>inexplicably resurrected.
She was never canonically killed though.
The mansion blew up, sure, but who the fuck knows what happened when she jumped into the abyss.
It's both. They started cloning this one guy because his genome was proven favorable for creating Tyrants. Then they took one of the clone Tyrants and stuck the NE-α in it to see how it would do. Nemesis was basically some Umbrella scientist dicking around in a lab, and then someone decided "hey, this seems like it'd be great for killing those STARS guys, let's try that and consider it a test run."
She climbed back out, chased Wesker for a while, got a chandelier dropped on her, and was in the front foyer when the mansion went boom.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if she lived through that too.
Look. Mr.X are like the marines, Nemesis is the Navy Seals
T-Veronica had it's own issues that needed to be dealt with. Alexia had to enter into a Cryogenic state to ensure the virus had time to fully adapt to her body. That process took nearly fifteen years if I am remembering correctly.
Both Steve and Alexander Ashford were turned into hulking, mindless killing machines as a result of the Virus maturing, while Manuela required constant organ transplants to stop her from dying due to the lack of time for the Virus to adapt to her body. Depending on the ending, she either finally fuses with the virus while retaining her body, or disintegrates due to the stress on her body.
By that logic every single undertaking by Umbrella should've been discontinued since they keep getting defeated.
I think the official word is that she was killed in the explosion, but since it's not confirmed by ingame content, it'd be pretty easy to waive it.
I'd like a very small scale zombie outbreak in a secluded area like another mansion or secret lab and set it prior to 1 and 0. Have you play as young Wesker.
Nemesis is literally more intelligent than Mr.X that was one of the points with designing him. Being able to program Tyrants into doing very particular things.
Well, I think it was stated somewhere that Spencer was a eugenicist. At least, it was implied with the new lore added to Wesker's origins in Re5. Shit Wesker and Spencer were talking about in that DLC, if I remember correctly.
You have to remember that 2 and 3 happen at the same time. He was a parallel development and served a different purpose. Both had also yet to be tested in real scenarios (probably) and Raccoon was a perfect test. They probably would have gone ahead with one model of the other based on the results had they both not failed... or would have anyway because Umbrella's crazy irrational like that.
Compared to X, Nemesis also showed far more adaptability and intelligence, though at the cost of more instability. He could ambush and even react tactically, including retreat and stealth. X was certainly more direct and arguably more durable but stomped around smashing through walls, readily announcing his presence while perusing his target with little consideration of anything else, even a vat of molten metal between the two. It's focused programming exactly that, programming; limited in the amount of variables it could handle.
Different methods for similar goals and both untested. Ultimately neither is practical but neither is Umbrella. Arguing whether one makes more sense than the other is like arguing if it's better to open a can of soda with a hand grenade or a stick of dynamite. You're gonna do both if you're able because you can, not because you want a soda.
Wait for the R3MAKE you X-boi and Nemesis is gonna tear some booty
REmake 3 Nemesis can't possibly live up to the hype people have created in their heads for Nemesis over the years.
>that bitch could still be alive
It's a Slav version.
Doesn't the Delta Force annihilate a bunch of Tyrants?
Was the Tyrants ever meant to function in civilian environments?
I just interpreted them as walking tanks for warzones.
Nothing else killed her, why would a bomb? Or she did die, but regenerated. Lisa can never have a happy ending.
Its a corporation user, THEY'RE the ones that the masses call nazis, not the common people.
Yeah but think of it like this.
Sherry can finally have an older sister
They killed like five of them with the rail gun.
there was more hype for RE2make than there has ever been for RE3make or nemesis. and everyone loved RE2make and Mr X. All they gotta do is Mr X again, but he can run, shoot rockets, and inflict poison.
CHRISTHISWAY
Tyrants are kinda dumb so Umbrella Europe thought that if they stuck a certain parasite in them maybe they could take orders and perform slightly more complex tasks.
They're mad scientists who inject the virus in random animals for fun. They also aren't very smart because the virus keeps getting out and they have been bested by a 18 yr old medic.
>she's still wandering in the forests of Arklay Mountains, tearing off faces of random hikers
oh fug
Look Chris.
Nemesis would be torn apart first and be a puddle but then he would start to mutate in their bellies and devour their biomass from the inside.
Sure she was wiped out after government had to nuke the entire area
Just make it so the entire map is vulnerable to Nemesis. Try that little game of running around the table with Mr.X on Nemesis and he just bats the fucking table at you.
Depends on how far away the forest and city are to each other.
>He was a parallel development and served a different purpose.
This, along with everything else you said. X was designed to kill journos and intruders; Nemesis was a mutated soldier programmed to hunt the only threats to the experiment, the members of STARS. nemesis is a scary mother fucker compared to fedora man
>when you show your friend your OC
1 in a million would naturally turn into a tyrant. Everyone else would turn into a zombie.
Then they figured out that an enzyme the 10 year old boys exrete in their brain when you vivisect them alive can cause someone to mutate into a tyrant 100% of the time and went on a pedo supervillain plot to make an island of little boy orphans to murder.
THEN they just found someone who had the genetic match needed to mutate into a tyrant and just started cloning him instead of engaging in michael jackson supervillainy.
>everyone loved RE2make and Mr X
Nope.
Think they'll retcon it in R3make that it was actually a plagas parasite?
>he just bats the fucking table at you
maybe that's legit a thing to differentiate him from Mr X. make him even scarier. placing objects in the game specifically for nemesis to throw out of the way as he comes for you. Like the table at the start of RE7. would be cool
Probably not. Its canon that they took the Nemesis parasite, stuck it in Lisa Trevor (cuz might as well, they used everything else on her), and her body created the G Virus.
Fair, the end result on a success seemed pretty great though for a mix of intelligence and power.
The arklay mountains got nuked along with racoon city
Wonder where the series is going after 7. Completely changed directions with that one. Even changed Chris' entire appearance. But I did like the part in the attic that was extremely Silent Hill-ish
Hopefully not.
Also I hated how they just treated the las plagas as somehow immune to the T virus; they treat it as this magic bullet for controlling the T virus subjects, but logically the Las plagas should mutate as well if you put it inside of a T virus infectee.
Ok, Re2make babby
Without replying to any specific post, the universe that current HD Mr X is in is not the same as the original games, so we don't know how "HD" Nemisis operates in comparison at all.
my guess is that they'll keep the same gameplay and first person camera for RE8, but they'll up the 'resident evil' factor. More traditional enemies and setting, play as jill/sherry, etc
Terminators are extremely tough and until their limbs are disabled they are extremely dangerous while tyrant flesh is still flesh. Without any weapons terminators are able to tear tyrants apart while tyrants are limited to bashing terminators. Terminators are also far more intelligent than tyrants and do have vast archives of weapons and are usually programmed to arm themselves immediately.
In a single engagement terminators would probably win but in a raccoon city situation where they are just unleashed on each other tyrants would eventually win as they are very likely to deliver enough blunt force to gradually damage terminators and any damage suffered would need to be repaired where as tyrants only need a very short period of time to regenerate.
ive played every game in the series homo. my dad could probably fuckin kill your dad in a fistfight
Such grace, such agility, Xfags could only dream of this athleticism
Who was the most dangerous member of Umbrella before its collapse?
Pretty terrifying. The fuck is it from?
Gun Survivor 2 explains that a Nemesis would be used in the event of an outbreak or state of emergency.
It was also used in Raccoon City because shit was fucked out there anyways and they needed STARS ded.
hehe well me of course
>More spikes! Theres a square inch of bare flesh on his leg!
Could the Predator from Predator 1 beat a Tyrant?
>they keep getting defeated
Nah, they just kept winning.
RE1 exposed one of their traitors and exposed who was the perfect Wesker child for Spencer.
RE2 netted them what they wanted, a G-Virus sample, and Birkin was disposed of.
RE3 got them the combat they needed since Nicholai lived. All evidence was also destroyed with the nuke.
CVX they got rid of some loose ends, that being the Ashford family.
0 saw Marcus' revenge begin and end within the same day.
Really, they only got defeated when Wesker nutted up and took them down, both physically and in court.
I wanna see an Albert Wesker redemption arc where he saves the world and a ten ft statue is erected in the memory of the greatest Captain STARS ever had.
Easily.
>go invisible, shoot a rocket, done
>alternately, go invisible, sneak up, rip out the heart or sever the spine, also done
Unironically, could a Tyrant defeat an actual tank?
>Really, they only got defeated when Wesker nutted up and took them down, both physically and in court.
When did Wesker sued Umbrella?
>Play as Jill in VR
>Immediately look down
A better question is why they didn't make more of this fucker. He's just Nemesis with better armor.
Could a tyrant beat Superman and the Flash in a race?
Not in any game, but sometime before 4 he took all his data on Umbrella, pretended to be a "concerned, troubled former employee seeking redemption" or something like that, gave it all to the government, and testified in Supreme Court.
because he looks like a Power Rangers side character
4D Executer
Wesker is too evil to be redeemed. At some point, especially when you try to destroy the world redemption is not possible despite what DBZ and Vegeta say. At best he could have a change of heart and sacrifice himself but I dunno if that redeems him. I would like to see a Chris/Wesker uneasy alliance though that would be kino.
Fucking kek, you're kidding, right? In what game or novel is this stated? I can't see Wesker testifying in a court with his sunglasses pretending to be someone else.
He was a former employee, so the only pretense was being concerned, troubled, and seeking redemption. He testified as himself.
Some supplementary stuff in Japan. Not in any game. And why would he pretend to be someone else? Just say he used to work for Umbrella (he did) and he feels bad (he doesn't, but how would they know?).
I autistically made a timeline that went over different continuities and when each game took place. I'll give a summary of the main time line though. Pretend the Chronicles scenarios are where they're supposed to be.
>RE0
>RE1
>RE3 First Half and both Outbreaks
>RE2 + Both Outbreaks
>RE3 Second Half, Both Outbreaks and 4D Executer (Dr. Cameron dies from the bombing or the nuke)
>Gun Survivor
>CVX and Gaiden (Gaiden is now non-canon)
>Gun Survivor 2 (dream, post-CVX)
>Dead Aim, Prelude to the Fall (manga) and Umbrella's End
>Operation Javiar
>RE4
>Degeneration, Revelations
>RE5 Lost in Nightmares
>RE5
>Damnation, Revelations 2, BIOHAZARD the Stage, Marhawa Desire
>RE6
>Vendetta, Umbrella Corps, Heavenly Island, Musical Biohazard: The Voice of Gaia
>RE7 Daughters
>RE7 The Beginning Hour
>RE7 Clancy Tapes
>RE7
>RE7 Not a Hero
>RE7 End of Zoe
Currently the timeline is just kinda here, in 2017. Next game will probably be 2020, 2021, so expect everybody to be 3-4 years older.
Also, REmake continuity, since Capcom will do this
>RE0
>REmake
>REmake 2
>REmake 3? CVX?
Well yes and no. A tank just sitting there could probably be turned over by a tyrant, "defeating" it.
In practice, no. In Degeneration Leon gets in a tank and stalemates it by ramming it and then blows its head off with the cannon almost comically.
Its why they made because they realized that Tyrants vs. tanks won't work out because of armor.
Because Umbrella's last remnant got taken down by Chris and Wesker when they were moving into production of those.
Wesker stole the Red Queen AI that was responsible for controlling it, making it impossible to make more of them.
>Albert Wesker has Umbrella been obstructing the US government and trying to destroy it from within
>I can't recall maybe
Probably was 6 hours of that.
ITS ALL FAKE NEWS!
Nah, he absolutely threw them under the bus. He needed them gone so he could corner the market on viruses.
The only people who knew Wesker was planning world domination pre-5 were Spencer (and even then, he thought it was for him), Chris, Barry, Jill, Claire and Leon.
In fact, before RE4, as far as the general public know, Wesker was an officer who died on duty, and those records were lost with Raccoon City, as there is no way the paper work could be filed and sent out anywhere in the brief span between July and September.
Nah, he fucking torpedoed them. He wasn't forced into testimony, he was actively trying to sabotage the company.
Would be kino if Umbrella was real and they were the ones colluding with Trump
>Spencer (and even then, he thought it was for him), Chris, Barry, Jill, Claire and Leon.
And maybe Rebecca, but she said "fuck all that" and moved to Australia first chance she got.
Yeah, Rebecca just fucking left. She had a life outside of some nebulous goal of 'down with big pharma' and ran.
Shame Brad was too much of a pussy to do the same thing. Fucking chickenheart.
>spencer
Still fucking retarded that they got rid of him in a goddamned CUTSCENE. This is the dude that the series had been building up as the final boss for the series since Day 1, and they basically pull a "Nah, JK" with him.
Fuck, I'd even take a retarded bizzarro world excuse (like "it was a clone") to get a legitimate game and conclusion for him.
Bigger is better, growth for the sake of growth, a classic modern mistake.
It's too late now.
Kind of wish some deep lore guys in the community would attempt a classic style game that basically did just that with the RE4 beta ideas.
Instead we got Residence of Evil.
Prototype Mansion was fun though.
I played RE 6 again recently and forgot how bad the dialogue was. The nips have a universe with an interesting story and it comes out bad. What pissed me off was how anticlimactic the Chris/Jake meeting was although its probably the most logical response if Jake has any idea how evil Wesker was. You killed muh daddy probably shouldn't be that strong if your daddy was zombie Hitler.
>Hitler
>bad
Watch "the greatest story never told" or "Europa: The last battle" and then we'll talk
So Netflix is going to make an RE show and it will probably be low budget so what will they do? Like an RPD show that ends at the mansion or something?
He sounds like he's yelling that name while taking a massive dump.
I didn't say Hitler was bad I said Wesker was bad. I am aware that Hitler was a good man.
Claire.
Imagine a Resident Evil series from the perspective of some ancillary Umbrella tech maintenance guy just watching the executives and scientists constantly engineering their own deaths.
Welp, thread's ruined. It was nice while it lasted.
Sounds like Cabin in the Woods, sort of.
An RPD noir cop series prior to the outbreak could be max kino if done right.
But it's netflix so half the cast will be "diverse".
>i want a continuation of the story
>i liked re6
Holy fucking hell zoomer leave me alone.
But he's way too cool to be killed. I would at least have him stick around and get him a happy ending like settling down and living peacefully in a cabin in the Arklay Mountains.
Could be both of these from the perspective of Wesker. There could also be a STARS member or RPD member we never heard of who is on to Wesker who Wesker eventually kills. Maybe he can be the Tyrant. Could be like Dexter but Wesker version and make that STARS guy like Doakes.
>SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER
I'm getting some "Saw" vibes from that.
If that series is ever done I wish it had multiple perspectives like in Hotline Miami 2.
Also some good cast and directing team is important. Nicolas Winding Refn, Cary Fukunaga and Craig Zahler could make it justice.
Raccoon city was one big testing ground for Umbrella. They even sent in a team to record data and observe the performance of bioweapons, so why not throw two different sets of tyrants in and see which one performs better.
It's similar to the US military testing prototypes with competing companies trying to win a contract.
It's more like if the US military tested their weapons on smaller Middle Eastern countries like Iraq and Afghani......oh wait.
funny thing the government also does BOW testing stuff too, or at least branches of it, such as Simmons.
Why not just produce thousands of undertakers with human squad leads?
>bulletproof suit
It's a limiter coat not some invulnerability armor the purpose of it is to keep T-103 from mutating out of control
simmons got injected with super C virus, which Neo Umbrella (meaning the chinese and fake Ada) made after C virus plus jake's blood plus sherry's antibodies or whatever. Only fake Ada and SImmons were injected with that. But I know what you mean, but having a bunch of T rex and giant flies in narrow spaces won't do much
but a bunch of people doing what fake ada did basically controls the environment inside buildings
Apart from nuking Raccoon City off of the fucking map literally, crashing their entire stock and mass arrests?
its also bulletproof as well.
Mia.
Maybe but that's pretty minor considering that the T-103 series has incredible durability and can withstand a lot of damage before mutating to compensate
That fucker would even go to Raccoon City voluntarily.
They'd never leave once they figured out they can get an endless variety of skulls by hitting Tyrants in the head just hard enough to not quite kill them so they mutate.
Umbrella would eventually capture one and turn it into a BOW.
It prevents them from having to mutate for as long as possible by making them virtually immune to small arms fire.
remember mutation ISN'T a beneficial trait in a weapon as it makes it less controllable, the deactivation of the limiter coats is seen as a last ditch tactic in the case of imminent destruction anyways.
The limiter coat's armor functionality allows it to shrug off non AP weaponry, which most opponents will have, to maintain its role as a programmable tool for as long as possible instead of a simple blunt weapon.
That's why its inherently superior to the nemesis as a production model: Because simply going apeshit and killing everything isn't what you look for in an assassin or bodyguard, that's a different purpose.
Okay Yea Forums, stay with me here.
>RE8 is set in a Texas border town
>Outbreak happens
>Two separate campaigns, you get to play as either a lone border patrol agent or as an illegal Mexican who happened to be hopping the border the night of the outbreak
>Border patrol agent starts with a better weapon loadout, full-auto AR and semi-auto handgun, but he is overweight and can't run very fast
>Mexican is very quick, has great endurance and starts with healing items, but his only starter weapon is a single-shot improvised pipe shotgun with 5-6 shells
>Border patrol agent and Mexican end up having to work together to survive
>They eventually find themselves in an overrun underground military installation that was built underneath a large section of the border town
>Base was working on a different strain of the Mold from RE7, adapted for use in dry environments, able to be used as a weapon even without much moisture
>Enemies include new types of Mold zombies and all kinds of infected desert wildlife
>Final boss is a fused-together Mold abomination of the military base's staff
>Ends with the Mexican having to testify about the whole incident, his border-hopping is excused because he helped to stop the outbreak from spreading, and he's offered citizenship for his efforts
>Mexican declines the offer and wants to go back, America is too crazy
Nemesis is faster, strong and smart enough to properly use weaponry, and has the potential to mutate.
The real question gamers in 2019 want to know is what gender is nemesis?
Sounds like a bad 90s movie.
I imagined your characters played by Alex Jones and Michael Peña.
If you like him so much, why don't you just marry him?
I would if I could.
Get that political shit out of here.
Since he's more unstable, maybe he can be designed to adapt to your methods.
If you harry him with grenades, he'll develop resistance, bait the attack and retaliate when you think you're clear.
If you simply run, he'll get faster and more agile, taking inhuman routes to head you off or catch up.
If you play games with him, he'll start destroying cover or spitting poison from afar.
If you just try to beat him down, he'll just get tankier and tankier.
The trick of course is to make it so each adaptation reduces the others, so you're constantly shifting strategies to handle him.
I bet you could. But doesn't it bother you what your family and friends would think of you for being with a 8ft deformed monster? Or how painful the sex would be? You might end up with a colostomy bag.
Hey look, it's Jill's mysterious boyfriend!
I've heard he's very supportive, and would follow her anywhere
The only classic style games I haven't played yet are Code Veronica and 0. How do those two stack up against the other ones?
Would you fuck Ms. X, Yea Forums?
>Catches your little rocket
>Pssh. Nothing personal, kid
Tbh the combat model 103's in Damnation could fuck Nemesis up. Easily the best incarnation of the tyrants in the whole series.
Does she crush people to death with her thighs? (Please say yes)
Mr Ecks was only well made and unrelenting so they could have a Nemesis like monster in the remake. He's almost like Nemesis 2 except from a design standpoint .
Yes. But only after she's finished riding her victim. You know how Nemesis is programmed to go after specific people? Ms. X is the same way, only she extracts "genetic material" from her targets before killing them.
Sweet
>Ms. XY
Wait... Wouldn't that still make it Mister?
they are the worst classic RE games. Especially 0
0 was in development hell for years then they tried to piggyback it on REmake's successful engine, but there were a lot of aspects that people didn't like. Still you don't have much choice for games if you like Rebecca.
CV started the series down it's path to becoming more actiony. It got by on Claire's popularity and the return of Wesker.
0 has some great moments, it's also a bit clunky. The two person inventory was an ok idea but the one section where you need the grappling hook to progress was not designed with it in mind. Also the final boss is a fucking dick hole and a half.
Code veronica is either average or fantastic depending on who you ask.
Thanks. Also, is Code Veronica X better than regular Code Veronica? I own a Dreamcast after all.
But niggers are shorter than whites.
She is a futa
X includes more cut scenes and gameplay. It's also cannon so I'd guess you'd want to play that.
The only contention I hear is that the HD version is a no go.
How did they go from a almost invincible super soldier-like being to a loli that can mind control people?
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Eveline wasn't a Tyrant. She was something else entirely.
Or do you mean why did the series change monster types? Most of the various groups developing BOWs now aren't looking for units that would engage in standard combat (it's been proven that they can be easily wiped out by the US military). Infiltrators are better, which pretty much started with the plan to infect Ashley with Las Plagas and send her back to her father to kill or infect him and other officials in his government
As I understand the mold has nothing to do with the progenitor virus. Just like the plagas they wanted to introduce something new. Probably so they can run it into the ground later by having it mixed with the other viruses like the plagas.
HD version is the best version of the game to play, its the PS4 version you have to avoid because its the PAL version
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I honestly think that out of all the people in this series, it's so weird that Spencer is the one dude who didn't put some kind of virus into himself. Maybe not a virus to give him powers, but something to turn him younger or at least clone another version of himself.
He seems like the type of guy that'd have contingency plans on top of contingency plans. I find it hard to believe that he went out like a bitch.
As i understand the anons on here who keep advising me why it's worse is it muddys the textures and messes with the lighting. Other anons say the same as you hence the contention.
The american and european branch of Umbrella were competing with each other to see who made the best Tyrant model to get the most funding, which is why Nemesis and X were released at the same time.
Eh, I mean the while point was he was too late. He was constantly trying to make the virus work all the way up to just him and his butler experimenting in the basement.
I have CV on PS2,GC, and 360/X1, and so far the HD version has been my go-to choice whenever replaying CV. I haven't noticed anything bad outside of framerate having a heart attack once in a while.
I know Birkin was cool and all but it would be nice to have more people like Spencer or Irons who are just normal people being pragmatic villains in a world gone mad even if it denies you a boss fight.
What the fuck is the virus in RE7 meant to do?
>They probably would have gone ahead with one model of the other based on the results had they both not failed... or would have anyway because Umbrella's crazy irrational like that.
To be fair, the protagonists of RE are all pretty much superhuman. Nemsis or X would work wonders on a place where those specific people aren't there.
Fun fact, Nikolai is the only human you can kill in the entire series.
Fair enough that's just what other anons usually say.
I'm unlikely to replay myself unless we get a remake, which is an interesting topic since CV was meant to be 3....which means the next remake might come down to which game the devs like more Nemesis or CV
I honestly doubt CV is getting any thing. Capcom is notorious for re-releasing games, but instead of doing a re-release for CV HD on PS4 and X1, they ported of the PS2 version to PS4 and made CV HD BC on X1.
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He's way too fucked in the head to be redeemed
Yes but nemesis hasn't even had that.
I think it'll come down to whether or not there's anyone there still salty about the PlayStation deal or not.
Perhaps as a joke plotline, ayys invade earth and Wesker repels them, someone asks if he was merely preparing for the invasion and he goes along
I am 99.9% sure the next classic game to be brought back is RE3. Nemesis is easily the most popular BOW in the series, and I doubt normies even know about the development of RE3 and CV to know about why those games got switched around.
>Wesker was trying to strengthen humanity to survive an alien invasion all along!
Truely the most anime of plotlines.
SIGN ME UP ON THAT SHIT
Yeah, that's what i meant and fair enough. Woulda been nice if the Tyrant got an actual successor series, instead of merely making them bigger.
Would you Yea Forums?
>Be Umbrella
>First Tyrant gets taken out by a 16 year old medic rookie and a convict
>second Tyrant gets obliterated by a couple of stars members
>Third Tyrant(s) gets BTFO by a rookie cop and a 18 year old girl with almost no military experience and a few grunts in the army
The T-103 models were all weak and not that effective, which is why they mass produced them. Nemesis was supposed to be a Tyrant that was virtually indestructible and was smart enough to use weapons, set traps, and ambush people. It was also pretty effective since it killed all the star members and umbrella mercenaries, and if Carlos hadn't rebelled it would have killed Jill. Too bad for umbrella that the only two things that could beat Nemesis, molecular acid specifically made to kill it and stop his regen and an experimental railgun the size of a house were both in the city at the same location.
>virtually indestructible
>heart on the outside of it's body
The first one was a failed prototype and the third one got it's limiter blown off.
Mutation caused by lack of limiter.
I don't remember Nemesis having a protruding heart.
I thought his second form had the heart out. I appear to be wrong though.
>They can blend into crowds
user...
What bothers me the most is that the Tyrant in RE1 was supposed to be the ultimate weapon, even Wesker believed it and a couple months later we have T-103 and Nemesis.
Also Wesker worked better as an Umbrella rat that died from his own greediness instead of being some evil mastermind with british accent.
Also, to really the "durability" of B.O.W in the RE series I don't really count the encounters with protagonists. The fact that Nemesis and Mr.X were able to track their targets in a devasted Raccoon City is already enough to prove that they work but in a very limited way.
>By contrast, Mr. X will avoid attacking or harming zombies that are actively attacking its targets
No he doesn't
Or because the company went bust??
>The virgin Mr. X
>Carefully pushes zombie manlets out of the way respectfully. If it's a female zombie he turns back and goes all the way around the RCPD to avoid her
>The CHAD Nemesis
>Punches zombie heads as soon as they enter his FOV, even if they're helping him
As expected of fedoraman
Heh, I don't have a mr x version but...
It was retconned that Wesker was acting like a retard on purpose to throw Chris off. Before the retcon it can be argued that Wesker had no idea about Nemesis since he was being developed in a top secret lab in Europe.
>has to mutate into a dog to even stand a chance
kek
Even with that retcon, his plan made no fucking sense.
Maybe he didn't know about Nemesis, but there's no way he didn't know about the T-103, especially since he met Sergei with his bodyguards before the RC incident.
Well maybe the Tyrant in RE1 wasn't completed yet? Like maybe he needed a few more days in the tube to be like the rest of the T-103's and to have his coat made and wesker released him prematurely. I don't know, Wesker is retarded
>I'm gonna get stabbed through the chest with an 8 foot tall retard and risk dying to get infected with the T-Virus to gain immortality when I can just have a zombie bite my arm or inject a sample into my blood to accomplish the same thing.
No. He knew there was a risk of getting shanked. And I'm pretty sure he just had no idea about the other tyrants and Nemesis.
Also there was no guarantee he was going to actually get powers and not just die.
Honestly, all the Tyrants and Nemesis seem like fucking awful products. Nearly uncontrollable super soldiers that can be dropped by explosives just seems like a waste of money.
Like a properly outfitted squad of soldiers would be more devastating than any Tyrant, and cheaper to make.
To be fair they just mass clone them.
Aside from nemesis, who was a highly experimental prototype. So he doesn't necessarily HAVE to be better, but they were still on par with mentally retarded children mentally.
Tyrants are supposed to work in conjunction with zombies and other BOWs. You can't order a typical BOW around in the chaos of an outbreak, but you can order a tyrant around. Also T-103's were pretty easy to mass produce, and nemesis was just a T-103 with a parasite that was also fairly easy to mass produce.
*runs through your path*