Everyone always talks about Pathologic but no one ever seems to discuss Ice Pick Lodges true magnum opus, The Void.
Everyone always talks about Pathologic but no one ever seems to discuss Ice Pick Lodges true magnum opus, The Void
Easton Walker
Parker Rivera
It's hard.
I'll give it another shot after I beat Pathologic 2.
Matthew Torres
Man i remember ice pick lodge. They were good back when I had a shit pc and dialup but now that I went full master race I just can't enjoy their memes and feel bad for ever enjoying it. Sometimes the best things come out of constrained situations. When I get real poor I'll prob be their fans again but then again indie gaming exists now so maybe not LUL.
Daniel Nguyen
I wonder if there’s a reason for that.
Ethan Thompson
That's not true, it gets brought up plenty of times... in pathologic threads.
Carson Ross
Ive tried it three times and I get further each time before I say "I have no idea what to do" and give up.
I'll beat it one day.
Parker Jenkins
Oh, and inb4 "the Void is just a watered down Turgor"
Angel Adams
What is turgor anyway?
I always here people bring it up but I'm not sure what it is.
Is there a way for me to play it? I have the void on gog
Evan Smith
Pathologic Classic HD, Bachelor Route: You know, the City could just be one of Polyhedron rooms. Actually, enter Kids reveal, it kind of is. Anyway, it's sorta all in your head. Also, starts in Eva's house and contains weird Eva's story ark, we'll return to later.
Samuel Rodriguez
Pathologic Classic HD, Haruspex Route: Notice the routes contradict each other? Good, pay attention to inconsistent characterization too. Also Eva survives for the stupidest possible reason (although throwing back to the Bachelor campaign's day 2) and then just stands there until the end of the route, making it apparent she was spared JUST to emphasize routes being mutually and irreconcilably contradictory.
Daniel Cox
Turgor ("Typгop") is the game as it was first released in Russia, while the Void is the english version, released some time later. There are several differences between the versions, some of them significant, some of them barely worth mentioning. I never played Turgor myself, so all I know comes from other anons in IPL threads, but I think the changes include:
>all dialogues are more straightforward
>large balance changes
>color didn't have a voice in the original (atleast I think so)
>endings are slightly different (I might be wrong on that one, don't really remember)
Some say the changes dumbed down the game, others say it's necessary to rein in Dybowskis artistic/autistic vision a bit for the game to be playable.
At any rate, there's a way to "patch back" your game to the way it was in the Turgor release. Specifically, you'll want to import the gamefiles of the polish version, while keeping english voice and text files.
I don't remember exactly how you do it, but if the thread keeps going for a while someone should be able to tell you. Or just google, it shouldn't be too hard to find.
Lucas Perez
Go on...
Lucas Ortiz
Pathologic Classic HD, Changeling Route: To most of your adherents you announce they will die, the Town remains intact only by means of accepting death and possibility of death (both symbolized with Sand Pest) as part of everyday life and eventually something that will happen in YOUR life. What does that mean for Pathologic itself as an interactive artistic work? Disbelief. As in "willing suspension of disbelief". You know you are being lied to, you are reading a work of fiction. Which makes it apparent it's a work of fiction by boasting self-contradictions starting from the very first moments with its visual hodgepodge style and anachronisms. The only thing turning it into something of integrity is your imagination and your desire to deludr yourself to believe it being a living breathing world far away. Eva's story ark with the soul in the Cathedral is a parable to that, and Eva herself is likely a self-insert by one of the developers.
Xavier Richardson
Someone give me a spoiler free rundown on the premise of this game.
Makes it look real surreal and I'm intrigued.
Austin Wilson
IPL threads need all the help they can get, so I might as well dump some sisters and brothers.
Isaiah Price
C O L O U R S
You should play pathologic first, the void is not friendly to new players in any sense of the word.
Nathaniel Diaz
You need to paint the world
And fuck some bitches along the way
Thomas Smith
I've already played Pathologic.
Charles Hernandez
You walk around in huge empty spaces which look like depressive dead planets, and feed naked sluts with colored cum, to bring some life into that hollow, grey mess around, while hoes babble some philosophical garbage into your ears, to motivate you into finding more rainbow cummies for them. After spending 10 hours walking in circles and listening to that insane drivel, maybe even having a fap or two, devs put you on a timer, and you realize that you have to restart from scratch, game over.
That's The Void for ya.
Lincoln Fisher
Alright then, go play the void and enjoy the beautifully abstract and surreal experience
Kevin Wilson
Turgor is the original release, has a pile of different stuff.
Dialogues all different, a character or two look different.
If you have The Void on Steam, you can opt into Polish translation (which is actually just Turgor) and then get an English translation ontop of it to make it work. Don't know if that trick works on GOG.
Hudson Nguyen
bump
Aaron Gomez
>the premise
You died. Are you in Heaven? Hell? Limbo? Purgatory? No one knows and no one cares. But in this place you'll meet other persons, who are trapped here like you. Will you trust them, help them, heed their advice? Or do you think it's every man for himself?
>the gameplay
Is hard as nails. It's mostly ressource management, but you have only one ressource that acts as your HP, mana, ammo, money and dialogue options. The rest of the game is fighting, running away and dating sim.
And when I say it's hard, I mean it. Expect to restart a couple of hours in, twice, because your decisions fucked up your savegame permanently.
>the context
It's a game by russian studio Ice Pick Lodge. If you're not familiar with them, they're masters at atmosphere and worldbuilding, but the rest is always a coin toss. The gameplay is miles better than in Pathologic, their first game, but the Void is still very much an *art* game. I'm sorry I couldn't resist
Dominic Myers
Liam Hill
Does anyone know If ipl is doing anything? I wouldn't mind them stepping into a completely different genre like they did with knock knock.
Hell, a smaller scale game like knock knock is probably the only thing they can do right now, I highly doubt they have the budget to do another BIG game like the void or pathologic
Joseph Howard
Carter Hernandez
James Sanchez
i liked it because it has tiddies, and its artistic, so i can whack it and feel classy about it.
Austin Rivera
I remember years ago I bought The Void and I spent hours trying to draw the first rune and it kept telling me I did it wrong so I'd restart it thinking I'd bugged it after all it's a buggy ass russian game
>You're supposed to use the whole screen to draw and not the center
I am still mad
Liam James
>Does anyone know If ipl is doing anything?
Hopefully, working on the Bachelor route.
Matthew Nelson
Juan Hill
Oh yeah, forgot path 2 was episodic
Gabriel Hernandez
Renaming Western release as "The Void" is the worst decision ever, fucking brainlet publisher made the game info and discussion literally unsearchable.
Those chucklefucks are due to release the other 2/3rds of P2.
Michael Smith
That's from the Divine Comedy by the way.
Gabriel Barnes
im the big ol trumpet boy
beep a deep doot deet doop
Luis Bell
Joshua Gonzalez
*ahem*
James Davis
Ice Pick Lodge thread?
Maybe someone can tell me what was pic-rel about?
Lincoln Cooper
Logan Young
Drugs.
Josiah Lewis
A pretty straightforward metaphor of dealing with mental illness. But gameplay-wise you have to walk around constantly regenerating house switching the lights on so nothing could get in in the darkness and avoid spoopies.
Carson Collins
This.
I guess Turgor is not really pleasant term to use in a videogame if you think about marketing so publishers has to barge in.
It's still fucking retarded though.
Nolan Collins
>those pesky fans want us to make a "fun" game
>say no more, Nikolay
Jackson Collins
just like my peepee while playing the game
Evan Flores
And now to post some artistic nudity.
I'm sorry if the thread gets nuked because of me, but I believe these should be shared.
Ayden Baker
Nikolay wasn't even involved in this one, aside from the couplets. Having burned out doing 2 games and losing their chance to make severa million $$$-worth Pathologic-like game called 'The Cold', he succumbed to a depression. Cargo is actually their lead programmer having fun with physics engine.
Oliver Reyes
William Sanchez
no game has ever made me as anxious as playing this game
Chase Wood
Evan Jenkins
>he succumbed to a depression
Not surprising honestly
Benjamin Powell
Elijah Martinez
Levi Wilson
Now he says that if the Cold is ever coming along, it would be either as visual novel, or 2d mobile garbage.
this is not the future I wanted
Liam Rivera
OMG teh nipplez! We're all gonna die nao.
Owen Lewis
Boo!
David Ramirez
he's the most popular brother among yaoi fangirls
Oliver Mitchell
Color me surprised
Adrian Mitchell
DON'T FEAR DEATH.
Luis Ross
felt bad disappointing Mantid and especially Patriarch
Ian Brown
Formidable Azure,
approaching storm,
bringer of Death,
searing whip,
executioner's blade,
open to the heart of thy lowly servant!
Grayson Perez
I came here to fill my dark heart with color.
James Brooks
Have a ten-year-old drawing of Ava.
Dominic Peterson
Noah Morales
Rare official art. Would be much better as box art than what we have now, really.
Josiah Hernandez
i put this game just above pathologic and the only real complaint i have is the brothers are built up so well and are so intimidating then when you fight them you just repeat the same spells until they die and theres no challenge
Jace Long
>true magnum opus
I still believe that мop is a much bigger achievement to be honest but have it your way user
Noah Cox
Having enough color to fight them is a challenge by itself.
Easton Long
does it have romance?
Christian Wright
Given that you just outed yourself as filthy ruskie, you ought to tell good onions about Patho development. For example, how Dybowsky didn't actually give a thought about whether his game shuld be 2d or 3d and didn't even know what 'sprite' is when he was looking for programmers.
Andrew Peterson
Technically?
Austin Collins
This
It was beautiful though