There are people who still think that Venom Snake is 100% a player proxy with no character

>there are people who still think that Venom Snake is 100% a player proxy with no character
>there are also people who still think that Venom Snake is Big Boss

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Bullshit copypasta user, come out wherever you are.

Is there anything that suggests that he isn't you?
Is there anything that suggests that he isn't Big Boss?

>There are still anons who clearly haven't played all of the MGS games who think they can understand MGSV and Venom Snake/The Medic better than the anons that actually have
MGSV is the story of how Big Boss became an evil maniac by parasitically abusing his most loyal soldier (thus giving the perfect reason for his downfall), The Medic, through secretly manipulating said soldier to become his body double slave so that he can fuck off to Africa and fulfill his perpetual warmongering dream. Big Boss is the actual villain of the game, not Skullface, and The Medic is entirely his own character and there's never a single moment in the game that suggests that he's you.

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Even as a body double of Big Boss, The Medic still differed from Big Boss because he was weaker and mute. Plus, despite being implanted with Big Boss' memories, he was a pacifist whenever possible (he spared Huey and Quiet, appreciated Miller's plan to give the children he rescued a chance at normal life instead of using them as child soldiers a.k.a. "young, lethal, and criminal murdering tools with no future, hope and opportunity" and didn't want to use Sahelanthropus because of how dangerous, harmful and MURDEROUS it was), he hated his demon, which represents who Big Boss truly is, and he also hated war and thought that NUKES = BAD like Solid Snake and wanted to go home, evidenced by how he accepted The Boss, lovingly repaired her bandana (showing how much he appreciated her and her will, unlike Big Boss) and vowed to disarm the all the nukes in the entire world to follow her will (which is world peace and a nuke free world), which is a stark but appropriate contrast to Big Boss rejecting The Boss, her bandana, and her will, and vowing to hoard all the nukes in the entire world, since he, unlike The Medic, had no sense of morality, lusted war and thought that NUKES = GOOD. Simply put, The Medic is the antithesis of Big Boss, just like Solid Snake. Red oni and blue oni. Yin and yang. Big Boss and The Medic. Consider The Medic to be a prototype of Solid Snake.

>B-bb-but two yangs/blue onis cannot pair to a yin/red oni, the balance of yin and yang/red and blue oni would be thrown off scale!
Denialism. It doesn't change the FACT that I am entirely right on everything that I say.

Anyways, that alone makes The Medic EXTREMELY DIFFERENT FROM BIG BOSS WHILE ALSO BEING A BETTER AND MORE RIGHTEOUS MAN THAN BIG BOSS AND THUS THE SUPERIOR BIG BOSS WHICH IS WHY HE DESERVED A GOOD AND HAPPY ENDING UNLIKE BIG BOSS. FACT.

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The Medic is extremely nice, virtuous, heavily righteous, morally light, ingenuous, honorable, selfless, generous, giving, and innocent. All of his recruits are lawful and guiltless. He is also compliant, obedient and loyal to whoever he thinks his master is (which unfortunately allowed him to be tricked by Big Boss to be his shield, scapegoat and tool whose main function is to die for him and his personal benefit, this is where Solid Snake knew better not to fall for these kinds of traps). In contrast, Big Boss fakes his niceness (in reality, he is mean and cruel), is savage, wicked, sinful, unjustifiable, morally dark (perhaps even amoral), manipulative, dishonorable, disloyal, psychopathic, rebellious, ruthless, selfish, egocentric, cold and calculative. All of his recruits are amoral, criminal, and conniving.

The tape was all about Big Boss convincing The Medic to be his slave. It was never making any inspirational sayings or thoughtful messages towards the player. It was never informing the player that "Big Boss is really a 100% nice, altruistic, benevolent, charitable, giving, kind-hearted, ingenuous, sweet, selfless and good guy and he'll prove it by giving the ability to officially roleplay AND be recognized as Big Boss to you, since you wanted to. Now do him a favor and put that role to good use so that you and him can help change the world, make a mark on history, and finish the story and legend of Big Boss, together". It was to get The Medic to go against his beliefs and do what he wants like the good little doll he is, you're never supposed to actually take anything from it seriously.

It is not a bunch of willy nilly roleplaying meta bullshit where Big Boss is some sort of "meta deity". Don't take any word from the same 3-4 autists that have been circulating Yea Forums for the past week who think otherwise.

I'd knew you come. Filtered.

>there are still some anons who think that Chico is Quiet post OP

I've never seen so little said with so much. why the fuck is this retardary 3 posts long?

Big Boss was a pussy ass bitch that got obliterated with some aerosol and a lighter. Venom was more worthy of the title Big Boss than Big Boss ever was.

BIBO

Big Boss isn't a pussy or a chicken. He's just opportunist scum. He saw the body double plan as the perfect opportunity to fuck off to Africa and fulfill his perpetual warmongering dream.

He could have stopped it anytime during his time in the hospital and went out to head Diamond Dogs. But he didn't.

But yeah, Venom > Big Boss 100%.

so I just finished MGS3 and I still have no clue why the actual Large Leader went on to become a turbo shit later on. Do I need to finish peace walker as well?

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user's thread died so he reposted his spergshit here

He only becomes "Big Boss" at the end of Peace Walker. Just watch the final cutscene on youtube, and he'll explain his reasons.

You don't. It's all there already at the end of MGS3 and if you didn't understand, then I'm sorry.

>He saw the body double plan as the perfect opportunity to fuck off to Africa and fulfill his perpetual warmongering dream.
Care to explain the bullshit you just pulled out of your ass?

>my country betrayed my mentor, guess I’ll become a warmongering lunatic with zero regards for anything but muh allies
yeah, no

>there are people who think Nathan is better than Rudy

>The Boss destroyed her life, her friends, and her legacy to stop Volgin, a warmongering lunatic
>Her son becomes a warmongering lunatic

POTTERY

But he IS Big Boss. Just like Jack is Big Boss. Both are Big Boss equally.