Redpill me on this game. Is it really as good as they say? Is it a bit of a meme? If it's good...

the patch I'm talking about only fixes bugs and similar stuff, possibly adds widescreen support but I think source has that already. There are patches that add content but I wouldn't recommend them for a first playthrough.

It's incredibly janky.

For some reason people pretend that chinatown is bad and the "boss rush" on ming xiao and lacoix is 1/4 of the game despite only lasting like 15 minutes of a 30 hour playtime.

samefag

>gameplay was literal shit
This is what I made the thread for, people telling me that melee is better or something. I am a story fag, but I do appreciate when it is not a chore to play.

okay, and yet some of the clans are made to be harder than others, so it is not an unreasonable question user.

play toreador, max celerity, max firearms
combat becomes fairly fun

That's good, added stuff is not my bag, I want the authentic game as much as possible. Cheers user, any tips for starting out? Someone told me melee is infinitely better than guns and magic. Clan recommendation?

Dude, you're too dumb to have fun yourself. Go watch a streamer playing it or something.

It's shit from the sewers on because it just becomes killing waves of mobs. The only good quest in China Town is the one with the two old guys.

Guns stop being useful after a while and become a chore to use
And they're also janky to aim
Melee is just click click block click until it dies and it's the only thing that'll do actual damage as you progress through the game

>tell me what to think!
"No."
Now go play the game and use your big boy brain.

>the (near mandatory) community path
Played through the game 10 times, never used the Unofficial Patch.

You're a zoomer so don't even bother with good games, fuck off back to /r/eddit and forget about this board.

why? becuase I want to enjoy myself instead of falling intot he trap of playing nosferatu on my first run and abandoning a game I might enjoy? fuck off snob.

>Melee is just click click block click until it dies
kek sounds like Skyrim. Well I played plenty of that so I probably won't have an issue with that.

interesting combo. I would assume those more militant clans were the combat focuses ones. I will give it a go.

You're forgetting the sewers, Sabbat base, killing chinks in Chinatown, Leopold base and going back to Santa Monica in the end.

what is sharing thoughts and recommendations among frens?
Becuase you faggots (samefag actually) simply knew exactly what to expect from every movie, book, tv show and game before you picked it up right?

Fantastic story, dated graphics and sub par gameplay.
If you are someone who can appreciate a good story over gameplay, then you might like it. Also a sequel is being released in the first quarter of 2020 that looks ... not horrible? So if you plan on playing that then it wouldn't hurt to play this to brush up on your lore.

the restaurant dude and the warehouse guy?

LOL! I worked on this game back when I first started at Activision. From what I remember it was a great game, one of the few I didn't mind having to replay over and over again.

The ones that have a feud and become friends

guns are shit early game but they get decent near the end desu, assuming you have a high enough firearms stat, so for a first playthrough you probably won't know when to start investing in that.
melee is decent all throughout.

also no clan is bad for a first playthrough except maybe Nosferatu 'cause it might be tedious to stick to the sewers and miss out on the public life of the city. People might say don't play malkavian on a first playthrough because it "spoils the game early on" but it doesn't spoil shit, for someone playing the game for the first time you won't know what's real and what isn't so whatever you say as a malkavian might just as well be mad rambling. That said, I hated my malkavian run, it's funny for like 5 minutes with the "lmao so randumb" dialogue but it got old quickly, as such I'd recommend any other clan desu.
finally, clan stat increases and abilities won't effect the game much, minmaxing is never needed and as such any minor stat increase they offer is meh, just pick whichever clan you might enjoy more. oh also tremere clan gets you a special hub in downtown I think, I've never played them though.

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it's short, build variety is nice until the endgame where combat is mandatory, it's possible to play either of 2 clans that should not be picked on a first playthrough, the music is pretty nice, the voice clips are too echoing, the writing and plot structure is the very best it gets, and they're making a sequel to fucking system shock and not this.

It's a rough gem. Very very rough gem.

the game is great if you like RPGs
pick whatever clan and playstyle you like, but you should have a strong social and combat stat that stands out above the others so you're not fumbling through everything in the game and your character isn't either someone that can see all the options but gets rekt in every fight or a character that breezes through the combat but can't do any of the fun shit that comes with RPGs. also a technical stat like computer hacking or lockpicking is good to have beefed up as well.
malk might be better saved for a second playthrough. you'll have one unique experience if you play it first, but you'll also essentially spoil yourself of events and/or just be scratching your head at what's going on.
same with nos, but for different reasons.
I think my first playthrough was tor with guns and cha as my main stats hacking as secondary. ended up branching out halfway through into other stats and even though the build turned out a bit of mess I still got through it just fine. celerity helped with that quite a bit though.

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day of the pillow cannot come soon enough

what did you do for activision user?

they are making a sequel to both user, are you living under a rock?

Cool thanks user, I am thinking either Tremere for cool magic or Brujah for melee for my first.

cool thanks man, that is really helpful.

It's fine, it's enjoyable but it has been vastly overrated since the viral marketing campaign for the sequel began. No, it's not really as good as they say. Lower those expectations, enjoy it for what it is, which is a pretty broken and janky game with plenty of potential and charm.

>Someone told me melee is infinitely better than guns and magic.
The early guns you have access to suck absolute shit and even if you have high firearms/dex you're better off punching goons to death instead in early stages. But much later in the game you'll be very thankful for having spent points in firearms and dex, you jig?

>Clan recommendation?
Brujah and Toreador have the go fast skill, it's a good one to have.

I started out as a Tester/Customer Support. First project was the OG COD. Later on someone at Treyarch heard I had some art skills and got hired on as a Designer then to Artist. Worked there till BlOps 3.

Do you hate the entirety of Chinatown then? Hollywood is still fine too and I never particularly had a huge problem with the sewers like most other people do. Just put a few points into Firearms and get one of the stronger guns (which is recommended you should do during the tutorial if you listen to Jack), even if you're doing a melee build, and most of the combat should be no problem if you didn't completely neglect combat stats.

I'll admit it's not the high point of the game when the last few levels start to get a little unbalanced with the enemies, but it's not nearly even 1/4th of the game.

>I want the authentic game as much as possible
The Unofficial Patch still makes some unnecessary changes even in the basic version, and the True Patch doesn't work properly on Windows 7 without some extra work and doesn't work at all on Windows 10.

I took the True Patch since it's closest to the vanilla game and some extra file from the Unofficial Patch for a technical fix, it should work easily on any system if you want it and will be the closest to vanilla but with bugfixes. Just copy the contents of the folder after unzipping into your Vampire installation.

www68.zippyshare.com/v/zXt7Fgc1/file.html

>and sub par gameplay.
I never had a problem with the gameplay. I don't mind skills being related to aiming with guns in an RPG, and I don't mind dicerolls either. If you put points into combat stats and pay attention during the tutorial to learn how melee combat works, I think it's pretty fun actually. Might sound like a joke, but the way melee combat pushes you to mix up your combos reminds me of playing DMC sometimes, just your damage output is better instead of your style meter going up.

>Might sound like a joke, but the way melee combat pushes you to mix up your combos reminds me of playing DMC sometimes, just your damage output is better instead of your style meter going up.
I feel like most people complaining about the melee combat in this game either didn't put points into Melee/Strength, or just button mash with the same combo because they didn't pay attention during the tutorial.

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>you jig?
I do, indeed, jig.

Cool shit user, very cool, you should do an AMA thread.

cool, thanks user

It's a great game that requires a community fix to be playable.

I'd recommend Tremere for a first play-through.

It's even better. Play malkavian first. Don't forget to dance at the nightclubs. Don't be afraid of bugs.

The story is cool, the writing is top notch, the voice acting and dialogue animations are pretty good, you have like 4 hubs that you can move around, find people, find quests, the game throws some oddballs here and there, it's mostly great. The combat is mostly shallow shit, though it can be enjoyed because it's so quick to get through. Where the game really shines is, again, the dialogues and moving around the urban setting and dealing with NPCs in various ways (mind control magic, seduction/intimidation/persuasion, doing favors, etc)
The game is definetly worth at leeast one playthrough, though you should avoid playing Nosferatu (the ugly vampires that get different interactions from NPCs, and are so ugly that you can't be seen by humans or it'll break the Masquerade), or Malkavian (crazier vampires that hear voices, see things that aren't there, see things differently, and have weird dialogue options) on your first playthrough.

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Yes it's great you newfag. Is this your first time on Yea Forums? This game is up there with Deus Ex, MGS3 and the likes as the essentials of Yea Forumsidya. Get the community patch and do not install that shit that adds stuff to the game. It's filled with shitty memes made by the patch creator.

What is it about Jeanette that's so fucking hot? Not other character has even come close for me.

>what clan and play-style shall I choose?

Whichever you want. Ignore anyone who says otherwise.

The only exception is that you absolutely cannot neglect your combat skills or you'll regret it. Pick ONE type of combat skill (Unarmed, Melee, or Firearms) and stick with it. XP comes at a premium in this game and you really won't have enough of it to build multiple types of physical combat without having to neglect all your other stats.

>it has been vastly overrated since the viral marketing campaign for the sequel began.
you new, bud? VtMB has been held in high regard here even when people thought the series was dead and buried.

make up that looks like she just got out of a rough sex session.
pigtails.
flirty.
short skirt.

vtmb has been held in high regard by consumers and people who actually played it since mid 2000s

just the type of person you know you'd regret forever hooking up with, but do it anyway.

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>goes a step further with her paleness wearing white makeup
>eye shading that enhances her eyes while also looking a bit like ruined makeup because of crying
>twintails are associated with youth and playfulness
>and she's very playful and teasing in her dialogue, but not childish
>great voice actress' voice and performance

>What is it about Jeanette that's so fucking hot?
To put it simply: everything.

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Never stick your fang in crazy, neonate.

>implying it wasn't Sseth's video that skyrocket the games popularity
Nobody cares about the sequel retard, it looks fucking terrible.

>flirty
she could be in any outfit, it's this that makes it kino, she's a firecracker.

Great story and characters, but pretty awful as a video game. It's worth checking out.
Go ranged Malkavian.

She's pretty cool overall, just don't give her that fucking amulet thingy from the hotel.

The gameplay was a little subpar compared to an action-heavy game, but you'll learn to like it.
Also, despite the variety of guns, they're pretty useless against vampires unless it's a shotty.
I personally was a persuasion-heavy toreador with melee skills out the ass, and I kept the katana off that stripper hunter. Cool and effective.

yeah, so it's not some new rise in opinion about the game just because a sequel has been announced. if anything it's more likely to attract more shitposting than praise now. happens a lot where threads of an old series had decent discussion and then a new sequel releases years after the last one and it's hard to have a decent thread again about any game in the series.

It's only been the last year before the Bloodlines 2 reveal that the game was appearing in top 5 lists. There's been some serious influencing of the hivemind well before the sequel was ready to reveal. Even 3 years ago it was far less loved.

>great voice actress
It kind of blew my mind when I learned it's the same woman who's voiced Daphne for nearly two decades now. After the fact it seems really obvious too.

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honestly for its time vtmb had amazing voice acting all around, even some minor characters, like that food critic, it's such a small side quest that's missable if you don't check your email but his voice acting was still great.

Diner ladies Nosferatu reactions are still the funniest thing I've seen in a videogame.

Yes. But I love the WoD, if you aren't sold on the setting you might very well hate it.

youtube.com/watch?v=7oMcFupuL78
shes a slut

Just noclip through the garbage filler segments. You'll know them when you see them.

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>Guns stop being useful after a while and become a chore to use
>pick up steyr
>melt everything

>Even 3 years ago it was far less loved.
there have been regular threads with overwhelming love for the game for at least 8 years. probably longer, but before then I didn't really pay attention to VtMB threads.
don't forget that traffic has skyrocketed in recent years, so there's probably a lot of new people just shitting on the game because it can be unpolished in some regards.

be warned

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kek what is best patch for bugs only then?

It's alright if you like RPG's.

If you want a suggestion, play Brujah, they are fine. If you enjoy Brujah, play Nosferatu or Malk 2nd time through.

Can it even be called a sequel if the source material is completely different?

Why do people complain about the sewers ,I just ran through them to get the card and whatever else you needed to get out ,I didn't even need celerity to do that? I did however god mode through the last quarter or more of the bosses it felt like just a DPS check.

I think it's very build dependent. I played a melee Tremere and didn't mind any part of the game because I could steamroll the entire thing.

Except the last boss which inexplicably needs a ranged weapon.

Played both and honestly what's the fucking difference?

I assume lore wise most things are the same, with the few changes like nosferatu not longer needing to stay hidden. Other than that it's just a different ruleset

>why do people complain about the sewers
>I merely had to cheat and become invulnerable to get through them they're fine guyz

exactly, plus patch is only useful if you finished the game many times before.

no it was a serious question, what is the real deal for bug fixes only?

yes I am serious. Just basic gog installer without any patches

If you play through the game without plus patch and without spoilers and without nagging children and wife on your side and you still don't see why it's so awesome, I am sorry for you

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Okay cool, I will get the GOG version then, thanks for the help fren.

the basic gog installer has the community bug fix pre-installed, without any of the extra content.

hey, it's the best non porn game on this rotten planet. And I played many games. So of course I want you to have the best experience I know.

Wow, that's big praise. Definitely going to go try it out. Cheers user.

The True Patch Gold is closest to vanilla but with bugfixes, however it no longer works properly on Win7/10. I combined the patches to keep the game vanilla but with bugfixes and get the best technical fixes here

>without any of the extra content.
The basic version still has extra content and unnecessary "fixes" which are mods.

The Unofficial Patch basic version makes it so if you walk near an NPC on the hubs, they make a random comment like "buy a watch" or something like that. Aside from the comment not really making sense, it's not a bugfix and I always hate when NPCs do that in games. I found it annoying Morrowind too. But it really ruins the immersion for me with the Unofficial Patch doing it in VtMB too.

this is probably true. But I wouldn't make it too complicated to get the game running.

do you have a exact list of what is needed to do for this. Which patch and just install over normal gog install or what?

It's not that complicated, it's just copying the contents of one folder to another. The only thing that might make it a little complicated is that GoG doesn't actually offer a vanilla version of the game. I recommend trying to find a torrent for the original 3 CD version.

The link in this post should be all you need. I think the Unofficial Patch installs to a separate folder, so this patch should still work just by installing it into a GoG version as long as you launch from vampire.exe and not the shortcut the Unofficial Patch makes. I don't think it'll work with the Steam version unless you move the Vampire folder out of your Steam folder first.

That's interesting but the GoG version literally comes with Wesp5's patch and I don't know how to break that concept down further for you.

One of the earliest threads I remember posting in on Yea Forums in 2004 was about VTM love, summerfag.

I don't really know what you're trying to say. I think you misunderstood. You're saying the GoG version comes with bugfixes and no extra content, but that's not true. Wesp's patch adds extra content, even with the basic version. It's not just bugfixes.

Best rpg ever.

>extra content
how much though? If it is re-recorded dialogue it can get fucked, if it is a few added weapons that were cut from the game, I don't mind.

I got stuck in a door pretty early on which meant i'd have to start over so I uninstalled and never looked back since.

Just wait for the sequel

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>The Unofficial Patch basic version makes it so if you walk near an NPC on the hubs, they make a random comment like "buy a watch" or something like that. Aside from the comment not really making sense, it's not a bugfix and I always hate when NPCs do that in games. I found it annoying Morrowind too. But it really ruins the immersion for me with the Unofficial Patch doing it in VtMB too.
It might not seem like a big deal, especially if you haven't played the game before and don't realize it's something being changed by the patch. But I find it really annoying and it kills the atmosphere for me.

I don't know if it still makes any other changes, but that was enough for me to stop using it because it's a constantly reoccuring annoyance. I asked Wesp to remove it since it's not a bugfix anyway, but he thinks it is. Which is why I stopped using the Unofficial Patch and just combined the two to stay vanilla but get as many actual bugfixes as possible.

Wew.

Drinking blood is haram, by the way. How the fuck do they not know this LOL

topkek, you should start a hashtag or something for doing this. they will lose their mind.

probably because whoever wrote that is an atheist libtard who knows nothing about islam but just wants to have more diversity in their game.

Assamites have been part of the game since forever, so guess they have a dumb loophole (is OK when vampires do it or something). That and

It is an exceptional RPG with mostly disappointing combat. If you can't stomach playing through a game with somewhat underwhelming combat then it isn't for you.